Candidates Take Aim at Obama in First GOP Primary Debate
- Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:15pm by
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You can watch the debate live here via Fox News. The debate is happening right now. Check back later for a fuller report on who said what.
Fox News has some details:
The five participants in the first Republican debate of the 2012 presidential race Thursday night are looking to prove themselves to be more than the party’s B-team, as they try to catapult their White House bids into the national spotlight.
Fox News and the South Carolina Republican Party are sponsoring the debate, which will feature former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, former New Mexico Gov. Gary John and businessman Herman Cain.
Here’s more on how the debate shook down:
Republican presidential hopefuls came out swinging in their first debate Thursday night, attacking President Obama’s foreign policy despite his leadership in ordering an operation that killed Usama bin Laden this week.
Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty congratulated Obama for capturing the world’s most wanted terrorist nearly 10 years after the Sept. 11 attacks.
“I tip my cap to him in that moment,” he said. “But that moment is not the sum total of America’s foreign policy. He‘s made a number of other decisions relating to our security here and around the world that I don’t agree with.”
Pawlenty cited Libya as one example, saying he didn‘t agree with Obama’s decision to defer to the United Nations on how to deal with Muammar Qaddafi’s violent crackdown on rebels.
“If he says Qaddafi must go, he needs to maintain the option to make Qaddafi go and he didn’t do that,” he said.
Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum said the only thing Obama has done right in his foreign policy is continue President George W. Bush’s policies.
“The decision he made with Usama bin Laden was a tactical decision,” he said. “It wasn’t a strategic decision.The strategic decision was made by President Bush to go after him. What President Obama has done on his watch, the issues that have come up while he’s been president, he’s gotten it wrong strategically every single time.”
Pawlenty and Santorum were among the five participants seeking to prove themselves to be more than the party’s B-team as they try to catapult their White House bids into the national spotlight.
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Comments (337)
Frustrated
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:01pmObama is an arrogant JOKE that is way out of his element and way to full of himself to even notice. He is good at playing up to the masses of leeches sucking this country dry. Breeds nothing but victims. Give, give, give and tax those who work to support those who WON’T, welfare, housing, food, $$ all for free, no wonder a lot of the lower class like him soo much, because that can’t do a damn thing for themselves, given more oppurtunities than anywhere else in the world and they still cry victim. Don’t go after the American Dream or Obama will tax you for it!!!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:00pmReally? So how many black guys have you voted for? I guess you voted for Obama, which makes you a little dumb. How many black guys have youy voted for? I guess you now prefer the superior white guys like Clinton, Kerry, Gore, Mondale and, let’s not forget, Carter.
Yeah, that’s the master race. (I’m white, btw, with no apology, because apologies are for wimps)
Report Post »Stu Pedaso
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:57pmSo far, Not impressed. No one has said a damn thing. A boatload of non answers. Cain makes sense, but still has not taken any stands. If this is the competition this country is DAMNED!!
Report Post »gapch68
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:54pmMaybe you need to vote on substance and not color. 98% of blacks voted on the basis of color and had no clue what Obama stood for and 88% would do it again even though that community is at its highest unemployment rate. I didn‘t vote for Obama because I didn’t agree with his policies and knew what his ideology was, but I will vote for Allen West, first, and also Herman Cain. I agree with their ideas and agree with their vision for America. I do not care about their color! And, yes, make note I am a tea partier and will say no matter what the lame stream media says 99% of tea partiers I have met feel the same way!
Report Post »gapch68
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:53amJust a note: this was response to someone who made a racist comment that has been pulled since. Just wanted to clarify since the original post that I replied to has been pulled.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 10:35amThat’s an idiotic statement, Quite racist. Fact.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:53pmRON PAUL!!!!
Awesome.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:18pmI agree…I’m not watching but I know where he stands
Report Post »chris3
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:51pmwhat?you must be a progressive,or just a idiot looking for a jab
Report Post »proudamerican1990
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:44pmThis has been very interesting so far.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:44pmSantorum made a great statement about Obamacare being a “gamechanger” that MUST be repealed.
Report Post »wewantchillywilly
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:42pm…i’m so glad they got bin laden. because otherwise, the news would only be about these stupid, unimportant debates.
Report Post »threecats407
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:38pmNot one of these mopes could qualify to take Wests trash to the curb.
allenwestnation
Report Post »Redistributor
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:34pmOh boy…this is exciting.
Report Post »TulsaYeeHaw
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:40pmWhat is exciting? Falling asleep?
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 3:51amTulsa-lol. funny
Report Post »southernORcobra
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:33pmI see paul’s cheering section has showed up they clap after everything he says even though he is wrong on fighting terror
Report Post »hucksqr
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:55pmYah, as if the way we’ve been fighting it has made us safer…Sorry, but nobody tries to blow the Swiss up. Why is that? Could it be the fine chocolates? Somehow I don’t think so, somehow I think people do not try to blow them up because they don‘t have a bad habit of interfering in other sovereign Nation’s affairs.
Report Post »Ron Paul has it right, you want to fight a war? Then do it the right way, declare it against an actual enemy, then fight the damned thing to win. But this idea of perpetual war, well that‘s part of why we’re going broke. Anyone with any sense of honesty will say that. We have spent over a trillion on the “war on terror”, and what has it gotten us? About as much as the so called “war on drugs”.
So tired of the big government progressive types, including the ones that tell us they are Constitutionalists when in fact they aren’t, telling us we need perpetual war.
TheSoundOf Truth
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:08pmThe reason why no one tries to blow up the Swiss is because that’s where every billionaire keeps his/her money! Also, the Swiss have NOTHING to offer via resources or stategic position, and to invade them would be meaningless.
But how do you explain Kuwait? They kept to themselves for some time….but Hussein invaded them because they “stole his oil”.
Just playing devil’s advocate here…
Report Post »BHAMCONSERVATIVE
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:54pm@Hucksqr – No one tries to blow the Swiss up because they’re not a superpower. They don’t stand for anything. No one looks to them for leadership. Their money isn’t the reserve currency.
Report Post »However I do agree with Paul on many issues. I think we should fight wars to win and I don’t believe in perpetual wars. At some point, our troops should come home. I don’t wanna build roads and schools for ppl who hate us. But I dunno about legalizing all drugs, prostitution, and gay marriage.
Entropy
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 4:06amWe are in Afgahnistan to steal their mineral wealth. Pure and simple.
Report Post »exliberalgrl
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:32pmRon Paul is making the most sense to me. PAUL/CAIN 2012!!!!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:30pmPretty substantive debate so far.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:58pmThats good..I’m not going to watch it but I trust your judgement
Report Post »Dale
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:55pmYeah, the real loser tonight was: chris wallace.
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 3:53amYeah, Wallace is about as arrogant and smarmy as they come. But Shannon Bream-Now yer talkin, LOL.
Report Post »TheSoundOf Truth
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:30pmI hate to say this, but Santorum is burying everyone else so far.
I like Ron Paul’s position on the Fed, and on state’s rights, but everything else he falls way, way short. He comes across as fanatical to me.
And Tim Pawlenty answered like HALF a question so far.
Herman Cain seems to be handling himself well. As far as economics and money, he is by far the best candidate.
Report Post »David in OKC
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:30pmHerman Cain is the one to watch! Of all of the above, he’s got my vote right now.
Report Post »TheSoundOf Truth
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:45pmHerm buried these guys. Wow.
Ron Paul didn’t show you anything new. You know where he stands on everything, and he is more interested in catering to the crowd than he is about actually doing something to fix the country. He makes a lot of good points but he is not serious about contending.
Herman Cain is very serious, and I think he has the best plan.
Romny, Newt, Palin, Bach, et al…they are politicians and I am a little sick of them.
Herman Cain wins simply because he tales some of the Black vote.
And I noticed on Hannity all of the “white people” who said they would vote for Cain. So, white southern republican-conservatives are racist, right? No, they just hate dumb ideology…
Report Post »truthstings
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 1:27amHerman Cain supported tarp and the federal reserve printing money. He was the chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve. Come on my fellow Americans, wake up!
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 1:33amI saw four Career Politicians and a patriot citizen taking a stand (Herman Cain).
The Ron Paul supporters can bray all they want… but it still doesn’t change the fact that he is just another Career Politician, no matter how much they wish it not to be true. I’ll never vote for someone the 9/11 wacko Truthers wet themselves over.
Report Post »truthstings
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 1:57amThat is some supporters, not all. Vote for the man, it is not American Idol. Anyways, you would rather vote for a guy that was apart of the largest ponzi scheme ever committed against Americans?
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 3:20amIf my choice is between a DC Career Politician and a Private Sector person, you’re damn skippy!
But, if your idea of turning this country around is supporting the same old people who have BEEN part of the problem for years and years is your cup o’ tea, then more power to you! Individual choice is what makes this country great.
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 3:41amI totally agree. I am watching a re-run of the debate right now. Cain is on the ball. He is real.
Report Post »Sinclare
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 9:40amHad a Cain for 2012 Pres sticker on the back of my truck for 4-5 months now. Had to track down a place selling them for $10 each (some independent guy) but it’s worth it. It’s about content of character this time around, not cult of personality. Put Cain and West together in any form and you would have one heck of a tag team. One knows business and the other knows military (and how to beat you into the ground :) )
Report Post »GODBLESSOURCOUNTRY
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:29pmMy husband and I are prepared to volunteer tomorrow if Allen West runs…
Report Post »bedspirit
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:27pmRon Paul vs a bunch of sell out jokers.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:39pmI don’t know much about West, but from all the support he gets here, he must be one of the good guys..if so..thats good
Report Post »Mannax
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:30pmI have followed both Cain and West. I do not think that Cain is a sell out of any kind. Personally, I wish for a Cain / West or West / Cain ticket. I think that it would be a winning ticket for everyone if they would actually listen instead of looking at the color of the skin.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:05pmPaul bungled a few of his answers tonight.. Granted they targeted him with some hot topic issues but he’s been there before and could have done a better job.. I only wish Rand was running.
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 3:28amI was impressed with Cain. He hits the nail right on the head.
Report Post »Professional Infidel
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:22pmBack to back, Black presidents!!
Report Post »salvawhoray
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:37pmObama is 50/50
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:21pmThey are saying the right things for the time being. But saying it and doing it is totally two different things. As we found out with Obambi.
Report Post »leftwardho
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:27pmYes, I thought President Obama was going to be a much more Progressive President. I support him, of course, but I did hope that he would be far more left-wing than he is. He is still an amazing leader.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:30pmBut Obama never said anything really. He was elected on smoke and imputed charisma.
Report Post »leftwardho
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:31pmSaying it and doing it “are” two different things. If there are two things, you use the word “are.” Proper grammar is like Kryptonite to Conservatives, isn’t it?
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:43pmLeftwardo….amazing if you’re into communism
Report Post »leftwardho
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:49pm@Riseandshine: President Obama is not a Communist. He isn’t even a Socialist. He isn’t even all that left-wing. That is what makes all of this Conservative whining so incredibly funny.
Report Post »OneRepublic4us
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:54pmI never fell for Obama’s supposed charm. I’ve always wanted to see him on the show Lie To Me. Everyone tells me how charismatic he is and I don’t see it. I have a very good BS filter I guess.
Report Post »Grandmadar
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:09pmLeftward…..How far left do you want him to go? He is already the most liberal president we have ever had. He is not enough of a dictator for you??? How many more freedoms would you like to lose?
Of course your response could all be sarcasm but if that were so I doubt your moniker would be what it is. Sure hope you are ready for what your “too much to the right” president is doing to be dishing out!
Report Post »leftwardho
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:21pm@Grandmadar: He is NOT the most liberal president that we have ever had. Bill Clinton was far more liberal. (it was great 8 years) I think that Lyndon Johnson (Goddess bless him for starting The Great Society) was much more liberal also. I hope some day to have a really liberal president. Don’t get me wrong, I am happy that Obama won and I am mostly happy with the way he is governing. I would have him support single payer health care and raise capital gains taxes, but we will have 6 more years . . . .
Report Post »leftwardho
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:25pm@Grandmadar: I love my freedoms. I love my freedom to choose abortion. I love my freedom to not be a Christian. I wish we had the freedom to have full marriage equality. I love freedom. That is why I belong to the ACLU, which defends freedoms. Are you a member?
Report Post »Grandmadar
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:26pm@Leftward…. all I can say is that you have your right to believe the way you want. Hard to believe things aren’t liberal enough for your taste….wouldn’t want you to have to eat your own words.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:35pmleftwardho
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:25pm
@Grandmadar: I love my freedoms. I love my freedom to choose abortion. I love my freedom to not be a Christian. I wish we had the freedom to have full marriage equality. I love freedom. That is why I belong to the ACLU, which defends freedoms. Are you a member?
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topic 1 ……….abortion where does choice start, and where does consequence begin?
i think you are unable to tell the difference
topic 2………no one has ever or ever will force you to be or not to be a Christian. Becoming a Christian is a personal choice, period, and being so, can not be forced on you . your understanding of this matter is lacking, much like the first topic
topic 3 …….the government should have nothing to do with marriage. period. the only two reasons you lefties cry about marraige is 1 ) marriage tax allowance, and 2) its a conservative/ bedrock concept, which makes you want to change it
there is no reason for any type of tax exemption……….everyone should be taxed the same, thus it would remove that reason
and tuff cookies for the other aspect of it , because removing the first one would result in you chuckleheads losing interest in it
it seems you need to go comb your wool…………its full of knots
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:40pmIf you like Obama…thats ok with me…I dread that he will get 4 more years, but you don’t bother me. Peace to you and yours.
Report Post »leftwardho
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:44pm@Psychosis: Choice starts at the moment a woman decides she is not ready to be a parent. “Consequences?“ Does that mean that a woman who has sex should be forced to have a child as a ”consequence” of her being sexually active? Are you that afraid of sexually powerful women? About the Christain statement: people on this very board are constantly saying, “we live in a Christian nation.” I am not a Christian. We live in a nation that recognizes freedom of religion and that should include my freedom not to worship your god. I believe that people should be free to marry whom they chose to marry. That is not going against conservatives, that is my choice. I have no idea what the wool comment means.
leftwardho
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:49pm@riseandshine: I am perfectly sure that I would dread anyone that you would support for president as well. But it is nice to know we can be friendly toward each other. Peace to you too and the Goddess’ blessing to you.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:04pmleftwardho
@Psychosis: Choice starts at the moment a woman decides she is not ready to be a parent. “Consequences?“ Does that mean that a woman who has sex should be forced to have a child as a ”consequence” of her being sexually active? Are you that afraid of sexually powerful women? About the Christain statement: people on this very board are constantly saying, “we live in a Christian nation.” I am not a Christian. We live in a nation that recognizes freedom of religion and that should include my freedom not to worship your god. I believe that people should be free to marry whom they chose to marry. That is not going against conservatives, that is my choice. I have no idea what the wool comment means.
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I usually don’t respond to trolls – but what have you been smoking? You have the right to remain agnostic/atheist: there are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindi, atheists, and many more. No one is persucated (with the possible Christian exception) in this country. NOW, a woman ‘decides’ to become a parent when engaging in a sexual act. You want to relieve these poor, indecisive women from their ‘burden’. You, like all progressives, must want to divorce actions from consequences. Your emotional development was stunted at about age three.
leftwardho
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:13pm@Dale: I am not a troll, just a person with a different opinion. I do not think that engaging in sex makes a person interested in being a parent. It means that they wish to have sex. If birth control fails, then people should have the right to end that pregnancy. Women should not be forced to have children because they choose to have sex. I fail to see how Christians are persecuted. Please explain that to me.
A Steiger
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:14pm@ LEFTWARDHO
2/10
Go troll elsewhere.
Report Post »leftwardho
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:37pm@ A Steiger: I am not trolling. I have a different opinion. Don’t you believe in debate? Don’t you believe in the free exercise of opinion? Please tell me your opinion? Tell me why you think I am wrong. Don’t just tell me not to talk. Are you that closed minded?
What does 2/10 mean?
Dale
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:08amleftwardho
@Dale: I am not a troll, just a person with a different opinion. I do not think that engaging in sex makes a person interested in being a parent. It means that they wish to have sex. If birth control fails, then people should have the right to end that pregnancy. Women should not be forced to have children because they choose to have sex. I fail to see how Christians are persecuted. Please explain that to me.
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You ARE a troll! ANYONE should be responsible for their decisions. Since you fail to address that question – I have nothing more to say to you. If you can’t see how the media and progressives, like you, assail the Bible and want to remove the Ten Commandments from courthouses, or any reminder that you violate God’s laws; I again have nothing more to say to you.
tierrah
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:54am@leftwardho: you wrote:
“Choice starts at the moment a woman decides she is not ready to be a parent. “Consequences?“ Does that mean that a woman who has sex should be forced to have a child as a ”consequence” of her being sexually active?”
I had to read that twice!! A woman who has sex should MAKE SURE that it is protected sex!!!!!!!!! Period. Then she wouldn’t have to make a decision whether or not to have an abortion. It’s call maturity and responsibility.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 2:13amleftwardho
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:49pm
@Riseandshine: President Obama is not a Communist. He isn’t even a Socialist. He isn’t even all that left-wing
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You are almost right. Obama is closest to being a Marxist than any other political ideology.
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 3:32amWow is that leftwardho a freak or what? “Ah, so you have unprotected sex and you get pregnant, Ah. so what? Just cut the baby into pieces”. What a monster. Anybody who thinks like that is crazy. She must be VERY unattractive to swallow that garbage. Monster prog freak.
Report Post »leftwardho
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:20pmOf course, they’ll talk about Bin Ladin. They’ll also talk about the how great Reagan was, see who can lower taxes on the rich the most, rush to cut programs for the middle class, and compete to bow down lower before their corporate masters. Oh, and of course they will argue about who loves God the most. We can’t have a Republican primary without everyone asserting that they love God and rich people.
Report Post »Chris G
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:20pmRep. RON PAUL is THE MAN! Although Rep. Allen West is another class act that I will proudly support.
Report Post »mossbrain
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:45pmHas Ron Paul spoken of his pocket fisherman yet? That guy is a genius if only for that one invention.
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 5:01amHe is a repeat offender.
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:19pmYawn!
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:28pmI was trying to come to someone that conveyed my thoughts…same old stuff.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:09pmThey’ll talk about Bin laden….thanks to the b.s.story about killing the boogie man
Report Post »chris3
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:47pmthis is the stuff that brought you McCain ,Dole,and both Bushes (sorry,I haven’t forgot the patriot act and stimulus 1,the border,the dollar, and nation building) what do we expect? a lesser of two evils? we can’t afford that anymore!
Report Post »Smitty1969
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:48pmIt really stinks that you are right! But I hope for change.
Report Post »pattybbb1
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:50amyou’re so right Chris. we can‘t wait another 4 years of the ’current administration’.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 2:03amChris, why do you have a problem with the Patriot Act? Other than the fact that it was mostly written by Joe Biden, it has been a useful tool in keeping us safe from bad guys.
I don’t expect perfection from my government, but I dam well expect them to protect us! I will get to see perfection when I die, but I’m not in a hurry to see it.
Help draft Colonel West…
Report Post »http://www.americasteapartynews.com/draft-allen-west.php
Vet with Vendetta
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:08pmToo bad Allen West isn’t in there.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:20pmHerman Cain, Marco Rubio and Chris Christy. Let’s staighten this mess out.
Report Post »Professional Infidel
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:21pmstill would vote for the Black guy.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:29pmMan – is Santorum a RINO, or what???
If these end up being our choices, the GOP is doomed.
Report Post »PSALMS23
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:31pmYes, we need someone good right now not in 2016, Bauchman would be better…Boy I don’t know what will come of this mess…Allen West is the one we need..with Bauchman, maybe..Pray real hard..
Report Post »gapch68
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:31pmI wish Allen West was there but Herman Cain is kicking butt! I have listened to him for a couple of years now and he knows his stuff and he doesn’t bow to the PC police. He speaks his mind and doesn’t play the political dance. Pawlenty is doing a pretty good job so far too. Love Ron Paul on the Fed issue but think he is a little “off” on some other issues.
Report Post »Vet with Vendetta
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:32pm@Revere1: If America isn’t run into the ground by then.
Report Post »melindamcgeheewoodallanderson
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:44pmI agree!!!!
Report Post »gapch68
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:44pmOops I meant Santorum, not Pawlenty. Just wanted to clarify.
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:48pmId like to see how West does in ths type of atmosphere. When he appears on Fox he is very tense compared to the many vids seen here and elsewhere when he speaks in an open forum/town hall and is very relaxed.
Cain has my vote at this point. RP too old too wacky just shot down enhanced interrogations when we have seen they have in fact work(god help him if any of his competitors challenges him on his 9/11 inside job garbage that he goes on Alex Jones about), Pawlenty & Santorum talking like politicians (we have had enough of their kind) John?! where did this guy come from no chance what so ever.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:53pmRon Paul’s answers are always on point.
Report Post »1959
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:55pmhttp://www.AllenWestforPresident.us
Report Post »not-a-lib
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:07pmTook the words right out of my mouth. He’s got more character in one strand of hair than O-bummer and all his possessions.
Report Post »MiketheTrucker
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:36pmHow about Ron Cain, or Herman Paul?
Herman’s responses seem too much like practiced platitudes, and Ron Paul, God love him, has the fed nailed, but some of his ideas are too far out in left field.
NONE of the others impressed me AT ALL.
Good thing there are more to come! But alas, ANYONE will be better than the communist in chief we have now.
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Report Post »Dale
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:46pmProfessional Infidel
Report Post »“still would vote for the Black guy.”
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Would that be oBOMBa
TSUNAMI-22
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 10:46pmHerman Cain smoked them for the most part……although Alan West wasn’t there. The only one who didn’t impress me at all was Gary Johnson.
Ron Paul has a good fiscal understanding and should be part of the Cain administration should he win. I’d like to see all of them as part of a Cain / West or West / Cain administration.
I wish they had more time to answer the questions put to them.
I didn‘t like Ron Paul’s answer about prostitution and drugs but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt because that was in no way a 30 second or even a 2 minute answerable question.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:00pmI’m a Ron Paul guy but I thought Pawlenty did real well. Cain was average. Santorum did better than I thought he would. Johnson was quirky but ok.. Paul wasn’t on top of his game imo. Man I only wish his son Rand could take his place because he’s right on the issues.
Unfortunately Pawlenty, Cain, Santorum, Huck, Mitt, Palin, Gingrich will all continue the Neo-Cons policies of intervention in foreign sovereign affairs where we have no place or interests.
Report Post »Nervous Investor
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:03pmI second that.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:09pmCain did smoke them…Pual second anf the other Idiot pro lifer and RINOs finished in the distance…
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:09pmMwany pro choice
Report Post »jzs
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:10pmYep, here’s the Republican field. Take your pick. It’s hard to decide because the platform of each candidate is the same: if Obama is favor of it, they’re against it. The favorite will be decided by who can slam Obama the most effectively.
I don’t want to sell these guys short. They are principled and do have values. They are for small government and less taxes and common sense conservatism. All of them. They all agree on the same platitudes. So how do you decide between them?
Report Post »Dan
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:14pmOut of the candidates that debated tonight, I have to go with Herman Cain. Hearing him speak was like listening to your neighbor or talking to your buddy. So far he comes across as a no nonsense guy with common sense solutions.
It’s still early and many candidates to weed out. I really don’t know much about Herman Cain but he definitely has my attention. Believe me when I say, he wasn’t my first choice however I will keep my eye on him.
Dan
Report Post »101
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:25pmRon Paul rocks
Report Post »Finch88
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:32pmAllan West should have been there.
http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos
Report Post »carrietony
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:35pmI would love to see Allen West run and forget Chris Christy he is a muslim lover he can stay put in jersey where he bleongs he is a JOKE
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:36pmjzs: That’s simply not true. Paul and Johnson are far more libertarian than the others.
Report Post »Paul would not have put ground forces in either of these Wars while all others would have.. That’s a huge difference. Paul also calls for audit or either an outright abolishment of the Federal Reserve… None of the other Republicans have this stance.
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:43pmRon Paul’s only goal as President will be to adhere to the Constitution – that’s what he wants because he understands what America is supposed to be.
He’s only off on a few things, but he WILL argue the Constitutionality of all of his positions if challenged, and will concede if they are found unConstitutional.
Ron Paul must win.
Report Post »revel222
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:47pmPresidential Position Opening Soon: All applicants welcome – We are an Equal Opportunity Employer!!!
Report Post »I think the next President should be from neither party. Watch America vote for an independent. Invite all American conservatives to nominate their favorite pick for President and see who comes out of the woodwork with support from the American people. Find someone in your community. Encourage them to run for President. Have you ever wanted to be a leader? Have you thought that you could be President and do the job better. 2012 is your opportunity to make a difference and save our country. Let’s run a national campaign to find the best candidate. Calling all Americans with strong values and a commitment to the Constitution of the United States. We need you!!!
mharry860
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:55pmCareful Sinista, we just agreed.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:07amGee jzs, isn’t that how Barry found his way to the top? By being against everything Bush?
Isn’t that how most all elections go?
Not too many people get elected by stating……..”My opponent is great and has been doing a fantastic job, but kick him out and give me a shot just for the hell of it”
You use many words to point out the obvious.
So how do we decide? We wait until the process plays itself out and see who is left standing.
Still early, many surprises yet to come.
Barry still has a lot of time to drive his ratings even lower.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:12amYou don’t need West when Ron Paul is there.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:22amRon Paul is awesome.
I like what Herman Cain says NOW, but I didn‘t like it when he said we don’t need to audit the Fed and that we should call them and ask them what they do with our money, as if they aren’t going to stonewall and lie.
And I still can’t get over the fact that he was the chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve board.
http://libertypulse.com/article/herman-cain-no-need-to-audit-the-federal-reserve-/
He sure changed his tune now… to be more in line with Ron Paul.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:25amCain didn’t smoke anything.
I think Ron Paul may have, I know I did…
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:30amI’m buttered.
Report Post »101
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:36amFox News POLL: Who Came Out on Top in the First Republican Presidential Debate?
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/05/05/poll-who-came-out-on-top-in-the-first-republican-presidential-debate-2/#more-67815
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:41am@PSALMS23:
Report Post »“Yes, we need someone good right now not in 2016, Bauchman would be better…Boy I don’t know what will come of this mess…Allen West is the one we need..with Bauchman, maybe..Pray real hard..
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I agree with you…a West/Bachman would be a winning ticket! Don’t get discouraged…know what I think? I think we are going to see our “knight in shining armor” come to the forefront…probably someone relatively unknown (like an Allen West)…AND…he is gonna kick butt! I’m praying too!
gapch68
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:44amWow the Paul nuts are out in force tonight! I like Paul on the fed issue but everything else he is “out” there!
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 1:15amAny body but BO!!!
Report Post »mcFirst
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 1:29amRon Paiul just past1 million
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 1:44amVet with Vendetta
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:08pm
Too bad Allen West isn’t in there.
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Amen brother!
Two winners at tonights debate… Cain and Santorum.
Losers at tonights debate… Everyone else.
Help draft Colonel West…
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thepatriotdave
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 1:46amSinista MACE
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 9:53pm
Ron Paul’s answers are always on point.
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You are kidding, right?
Help draft Colonel West…
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Charlesjr
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 1:48amI hear that. Allen West is a great man. I must admit though, the more I see and hear Herman Cain speak the more I like him.
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thepatriotdave
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 1:53amtechengineer11
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:36pm
jzs: That’s simply not true. Paul and Johnson are far more libertarian than the others.
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And that is the problem now isn’t it?
Paul and Johnson are almost purebred Libertarian and if you study Libertarian ideology, that’s not exactly a good thing. Know what I mean?
Help draft Colonel West…
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thepatriotdave
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 1:59amC’mon Blaze, if you are going to have a poll you could at least have the decency to set it up so you can’t cheat. I got suspicious when I saw the count for Ron Paul, so I went and tested the poll. I easily voted 6 times for the same person before stopping. Each of my votes were recorded.
THIS IS NOT HOW YOU RUN A POLL!!!
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 2:08am101
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:36am
Fox News POLL: Who Came Out on Top in the First Republican Presidential Debate?
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More bad news… Even Fox didn’t take the necessary precautions to keep their poll legit. I just went to the link that 101 posted above. It let me vote 8 times before I quit. So once again, there is NO honest way to tell who really won. But it does look like Ron Paul won the cheaters-vote.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 2:12amWell, I will say that I was very impressed with Herman Cain’s performance, and so were those people in the audience that had one Herman Cain supporter when they went into the room and only one or two NOT for him at the end of the debate.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 2:28am@Sinista MACE
Cain didn’t smoke anything.
I think Ron Paul may have, I know I did…
I’m buttered.
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Is that the same thing as stoned?
Entropy
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 2:53amAt least Cain showed up. Where the heck are the rest of the clowns. Where is Bachman, Palin, Trump, West and the rest of them. I guess they are too good to show up.
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 3:23amMan alive, is that Shannon Bream a babe or what!?
Report Post »Vet with Vendetta
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 3:44am@Entropy: West wasn‘t there because he said he wasn’t running for president, at least, “not now.” So uh, maybe that’s why that “clown” was “too good to show up.” Get your facts straight.
Report Post »101
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 3:45am@ thepatriotdave
More bad news… Even Fox didn’t take the necessary precautions to keep their poll legit. I just went to the link that 101 posted above. It let me vote 8 times before I quit. So once again, there is NO honest way to tell who really won. But it does look like Ron Paul won the cheaters-vote
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One vote per IP address, you can click all you want but you’ll only register one vote!
Report Post »Ron Paul won, you can’t argue with that if you watched the debate.
Cobra Blue
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 3:59amShort answer…Stop hanging your hope and expectations in politicians. Start practicing Self-reliance.
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 4:58amTrump for President. Please name a candidate who is actually going to run this year, not in 2016!!! We need jobs. Put people to work and find out how well things will go. Or, have fun with Obama for another 4 years. No other candidate except Trump would beat Obama.
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 6:01amI love Ron Paul for many reasons but not for his stance on illegal immigration… According to Numbers USA, Paul receives a miserable “F” on immigration enforcement… And this is not good for America.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 6:20amWe need to demand to know the “team” we are voting for. Obamamania won, and then he brought in his marxist, communist, socialist team. Who would these people like to bring to Washington? We need to be able to judge these men by their associates. Very good men are coming out of the woodwork on the right. Not all can be President, but there is potential for a very strong team to lead us through these next years.
Don‘t let the campaign be just about one man’s character or charisma. Demand to know who will be in the White House every day, and demand that Obama explain his choices of people who now have power over our lives.
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:07amI like hearing Cain speak, but the fact that he used to work for the Fed scares me.
Report Post »I‘m throwing in with Paul because I agree with the vast majority of his points and he’s so strictly constitutionalist.
Bluegill
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:13amDidn’t watch it all but some seem to be pandering to us, not sure they would say the same thing when interviewed on MSNBC, like Pawlenty. I like Cain and Paul but think the problem with the fair tax is that it well be tacked on top of state sales tax and could be easily raised penny by penny.
Report Post »BobW
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 7:38amAgree, that would be nice. Don’t know if he has hinted of a possible run. He like Herman Cain speaks english not rhetoric. It’s going to get nasty very soon.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:15amNo, I’m not kidding.
Ron Paul won the debate according to CNN poll.
Herman Cain had near zero support coming into the debate, but Frank Luntz sure made it seem like he was so spectacular that because half the people came away with a decent impression of him, he discovered some new level of viability….pfft.
Herman Cain is a FED insider who is pro-war and appears to be pro-Empire, against a Federal Reserve audit, and has been supportive and apologetic about the bailout. Free market is incompatible with crony capitalism and Fed intervention.
NOBODY ASKED THIS FEDERAL RESERVE STOOGE ABOUT HIS TRUE ORIGINS
THEY KEEP PRESENTING THIS CLOWN AS A OWNER OF GODFATHER PIZZA
WHAT ABOUT YOUR CHAIRMANSHIP OF THE KANSAS CITY FED RESERVE BOARD CAIN?!?
YOU FEDERAL RESERVE STOOGE, TIM GEITHNER IS ALREADY HELPING OBAMA DESTROY OUR COUNTRY AND HE IS A FED RESERVE STOOGE TOO.
NO MORE FEDERAL RESERVE STOOGES.
I DON’T CARE THAT YOU NEVER HELD PUBLIC OFFICE.
YOU HELD A POSITION AT THE FED WHICH IS DEFINITILY A PRIVATE BANK, NOT PUBLIC.
AND YOU SAID YOUR FEDERAL RESERVE FELLOW THIEVES SHOULDN’T BE AUDITED.
CHANGED YOUR STORY REAL FAST WHEN YOU SAW RON PAUL WAS GAINING STEAM IN HIS PUSH TO AUDIT.
PERPETRATOR!
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:17amShannon Bream has got nothing on Sharon Reed for 19 Action News.
Report Post »David, the Constitutional Libertarian
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 8:28amAs Reagan said, “Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.”
Breakdown.
Herman Cain won the debate hands down. Concise, to the point and is a leader.
Rick Santorum, intelligent, moral and pretty dang likeable.
Ron Paul, his standard and consistent self. Knowledgeable about the economy, mistaken about national defense. He should think about one of my ideas about privatizing our military and make any country that wants us to help them, they pay. He must have never read my ideas I sent to him.
Tim Pawlenty, the cap and trade is going to be his downfall, otherwise I like him.
Gary Johnson, he broke Reagan’s 11th commandment and denigrated Sarah Palin, sorry he just lost in his first primetime showing. Did you hear the crowd’s gasp? Oh yeah he is DONE.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 9:38amHerman Cain won the debate…according to WHO?
He ALREADY LOST the debate by stating the Federal Reserve doesn’t need to be audited.
He is trying to CATCH UP to Ron Paul and his message.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 9:40amWhat poll says Herman Cain won the debate?
Frank Luntz’s spontaneous polling of his HAND PICKED focus group?
PUHLEASE.
What do you take me for…a fool?
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 9:45amNeocon Warmongers call Ron Paul “Mistaken” about “Defense” when the fact is, you just like to stick your self-righteous nose in other folks business, that is NOT in our interest.
Defense means securing our borders so the BOOGEYMAN Al Qaeda doesn’t waltz in, not spreading our troops thin worldwide while we’re BROKE and nation building, over 700 bases worldwide.
Sarah Palin is a progressive, Johnson was right about her, and she isn’t even running.
I’d vote for Johnson and Paul over ALL THOSE LAME ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATES, AND THE ONE FEDERAL RESERVE CANDIDATE-HERMAN CAIN.
They think we’re stupid…Pawlenty has been lingering like a bad smell ever since he first stepped on the scene, morphing and transforming like a chameleon to appease whoever his audience happens to be at the time.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 10:35amthepatriotdave
Ron Paul is a true Constitutional Republican. Today’s Republicans or Neo-Con War Mongers would have been booed off any Republican platform 20 years ago; however, with the 24/7 propaganda of FOX news you now believe that these War Mongers for Israel are legitimate Republicans. Well they are not. The American people demand no more War for Israel or Jews.
BTW, I just took the poll and it is not rigged. You can’t even see how many voted just a percentage.
I was really surprised to see Luntz group aftewards think that Cain won the debate.. I thought Pawlenty did the best acutally but he certainly had his share of softball questions.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 10:38amSinista MACE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 9:38am
Herman Cain won the debate…according to WHO?
He ALREADY LOST the debate by stating the Federal Reserve doesn’t need to be audited.
He was a former Federal Reserve Board Governor.. The Perfect Insider.. lol And you wonder why he doesn’t think the American people deserve to see the death photo of OBL??? How can these so called idiot Republicans fall for another Neo-con insider which the Establishment trots out for them?? my goodness talk about stupid!!!
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 11:04amOK folks, looks like establishment is forcing another puppet on us. To all, before you will support any candidate look closely at his past. Herman Cain speaks with nice deep voice, but like obama no specifics, “we need jobs..bla. bla bla…”. I have been watching Ron Paul for some time, and I like him. He never turn around on his word. We have take lessons from the past, to avoid future mistakes. Can we make government like is written in Constitution Article 1 Section 8?
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 11:22amWe can get back to Article 1 Section8, through the 10th Amendment.
Nullification.
Ron Paul will take us there. He strongly supports state’s rights, as you heard in the debate last night.
The 10th Amendment Nullification Movement
Report Post »“If the federal government has the exclusive right to judge the extent of its own powers, warned the Kentucky and Virginia resolutions’ authors (Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, respectively), it will continue to grow – regardless of elections, the separation of powers, and other much-touted limits on government power.”
–Thomas E. Woods
thepatriotdave
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:23pm101
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@ thepatriotdave
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Wrong. I use only one IP address and both polls allowed me to add my votes over and over. Nice try.
Ron Paul did NOT win this debate, just like he can’t win POTUS. Not trying to cause a problem, it’s just the truth.
thepatriotdave
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:28pmtechengineer11
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 10:35am
thepatriotdave
Ron Paul is a true Constitutional Republican.
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No, he’s a strict Libertarian and that can be dangerous. I said exactly what I wanted to say the first time because I know what I’m talking about.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:31pmescape_from_socialism
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 11:04am
OK folks, looks like establishment is forcing another puppet on us. To all, before you will support any candidate look closely at his past. Herman Cain speaks with nice deep voice, but like obama no specifics, “we need jobs..bla. bla bla…”. I have been watching Ron Paul for some time
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Just one big problem…. Paul cannot win against Obama!!!!
Please stop with the insanity of Ron Paul. It ain’t gonna happen folks, get used to it.
Report Post »Joe_2112
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 12:47pmWhy’s that? Because he’s black? What’s he got to offer in the way of viable experience when it comes to the ways of congress, the economy, and foreign policy? Is it just because he can talk a good game? Haven’t you learned a lesson yet about smooth talkers.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 2:26pmTHEPATRIOTDAVE said:
“Ron Paul did NOT win this debate, just like he can’t win POTUS. Not trying to cause a problem, it’s just the truth.”
Because he is the great arbiter of who wins debates, elections, and the truth.
Silence, Dave.
I‘ll make sure you’re stuck with Obamanation for 4 more years. Try me.
“Shock” CNN Poll: Ron Paul Has Best Chance Of Beating Obama
“Who does best against Obama? Paul. The congressman from Texas, who also ran as a libertarian candidate for president in 1988 and who is well liked by many in the tea party movement, trails the president by only seven points (52 to 45 percent) in a hypothetical general election showdown. Huckabee trails by eight points, with Romney down 11 points to Obama,” reports CNN.
Shut up Dave.
Report Post »101
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 4:27pm@ thepatriotdave You have a dozen post and I have not read one positive comment, why is that? Is it because only your opinion counts, are you “WINNING”
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The people support Ron Paul whether you want to except it or not & so far Ron Paul has the best chance of beating Obama, I don’t see anybody else stepping up to the challenge!
LibertariansUnite
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 5:28pm@ ThePatriotDave
Yeah man, all those polls are so dishonest representing the dangerous libertarian!
Is that as dishonest as Fox’s poll of undecided voters who want Cain?
–>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3BDvfAf2c4&feature=related
Furthermore, you seem to think libertarianism is “dangerous”, can you please explain how?
The only thing I see dangerous, is central planning.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 6:08pm@ThePatriotDave
http://vortexeffect.net/2011/05/05/poll-who-do-you-think-won-the-fox-news-republican-debate/#comments
Poll: Go vote for Cain, after you do reload the page, and try and vote again, it will SEEM like you can vote twice, but then, use your reading skills, and notice at the top it saying “Sorry you have already voted once”.
THEN if your still concerned, it shows the number of votes, try and vote again and see if Cain goes up a second time, it wont.
Stop being brainwashed by Beck, and do what Beck wants you to do, YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
Report Post »Nevada Tumbleweed
Posted on May 6, 2011 at 6:21pmAllen West is our only hope.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on May 7, 2011 at 8:51amVerrrry interesting. It was difficult to decide…Orville Reddenbacher or Jiffy-Pop?
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