Convinced? Romney Claims His Mass. Plan Differs From Obamacare
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Editor’s note: this story originally contained live video of Romney’s speech. Now that it has concluded, we have replaced it with a relevant story.
ANN ARBOR, Mich. (AP) — Mitt Romney says last year’s Democratic-passed health care law is a federal government takeover of health delivery. But he says his somewhat similar Massachusetts law was right for his state.
The likely Republican presidential candidate on Thursday defended the law enacted in 2006 when he was Massachusetts governor. Both the state and federal laws require people to obtain health insurance.
Romney said his program was a state solution to a state problem. He said the Obama-backed law is a power-grab by the federal government to impose a one-size-fits-all plan on all 50 states.
Many conservatives say Romney should distance himself from the Massachusetts law’s mandated insurance coverage.
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mrmikejohnson
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:28pmAs long as Donald Trump does run, I think Obamacare will be repealed.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:26pmI’ve come to the conclusion presidential races are a total sideshow, almost a distraction. My lean is toward expanding and further consolidating Conservative influence wherein lie the real seats of power: Congress, governorships, state houses, and attorneys general. On a smaller scale, county officials and school boards.
A veto-proof Constitutionalist Congress turns Obow into a lame duck at the outset of his second term, for at least two years. The people’s real power is with the states and the reps we put in charge there. For now, I can‘t think of a one on the Pub side the MSM hasn’t already skewered for years or won’t batter the instant a candidacy seems possible. Besides, a president isn’t elected by popular vote, anyway. The Electoral College does that.
The Pubs might as well run McCain again, for all the RNC really has to offer. At least until the Party can be taken over by Constitutionalists. I see a president as a good-to-have item but, in the real scheme of things, Constitutionalists in the real seats of power are probably the best way to save our country.
Report Post »Micmac
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:28pmYes, yes, yes and yes!!!!! Exactly how I feel. Exactly. It‘s the only way to stop our demise as the Repubs have no one to really offer that hasn’t waffled somewhere along the line and self-skewered.
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:06pmMittens “I-was-for-it-before-I-was-against-it” Romney; going down like a lead balloon…..
Report Post »Uechi
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:02pmRomney Care was and is essentially Obama care applied to MA. It sucks in that state and it will suck even more if it becomes national. If Romney runs against Obama in 2012 expect and end to America as we know it because he will never beat Obama. What is required is a dynanic honest intelligbet conservative. Anybody out there? As it stands right now America is headed for Obama oblivion.
Report Post »TeaPartyPatriot
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:01pmRomney is clearly a trick by the Tea Party to get lunatic-left d-crat socialist heads to explode when they try to decide which they love more, ROMENYCARE or OBOZOCARE.
So to get even with the Tea Party, the lunatic-left produced their own trick, donald trump, so the Tea Partiers would support this phony – who’s a d-crat socialist-backing, obozocare-supporting, auto-company-bailout supporting, egomaniac, hussein-level-narcissist and abortionist – instead of supporting a real, honest, conservative who could help TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY from the d-crat socialists.
Report Post »Zorro6821
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 9:42amFor all the geniuses on this site. You all come up with snappy lines but no solutions. You have no idea how many Americans face medical bankruptcy. I like Glen but on healthcare he has zero solutions. I would like to ask him since he just got back from Israel, if he told them how horrible the Israeli State Healthcare system is. Maybe glen can tell us about the death panels as in Canada. Glen, just like you criticize The Canadian and British system, tell us about all the flaws with the Israeli system ? Fox has always been a shill for big corporate healthcare and Glen had to follow the memo. I would like to hear common sense solutions as an alternative to Obamacare. Folks do your own reserach as Glenn always says.
Report Post »mermaid7
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:00pmI used to like Mitt but he clearly is a RINO. He will never become the President. Maybe a good Secretary of State or Treasury. Cain is still the MAN!
Report Post »jeff.cooper
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:00pmRomney is very, very prepared for the questions he is fielding. Romney provides to-the-point answers compared to Obama’s meandering, off-topic “answers” (lessons from the professor from my point of view) on this subject. At least he isn’t running from his creation or triangulating an answer for it. He owns it and is proud of it. However, he is fundamentally wrong on providing a huge handout at the expense of taxpayers.
Report Post »showmerancher
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:57pmAnyone that would even consider voting for Romney either has a screw loose or is a closet Democrat. Such folks require institutionalization for professional help, or should have Democrat tattooed across their forehead.
Report Post »Texas Grasshopper
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:56pmgeez……..incentives for healthy …drop FEDERAL heathcare and maybe focus on something important ….like rolling back the Federal Gov , jobs , the DOLLAR VALUE ( IE : THE FED ) , and National security Issues .. thank God it’s raining here in Texas ..Midwest ..your still in my prayers
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:02pm@texas grasshopper, and prayers for all who have lost their homes from tornadoes,and floods,and the wildfires, god well bless each and everyone effected,he will provide, we must trust in him.
Report Post »Bronco II
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:55pmSorry Mitt I don’t trust DOUBLEMINDED PEOPLE shows your not sure of what you believe for yourself that also shows me no CONFIDENCE in yourself.I respect you but not enough to get my vote for President.But that’s just me.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:58pm@bronco ll, that goes for me also, ain’t happening .no way,no how, not ever.
Report Post »raspberrytea
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:32pmHe won’t get mine either.
Report Post »capecodsully
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:53pmThe only people who wanted healthcare forced on the citizens of Massachusetts were the insurance companies who would make alot of money and the hospitals who feared going bankrupt giving free healthcare to illegal aliens. The citizens of Mass are the loosers in this deal. Romney wasn’t going to be around to implement this to the benefit of the citizens forced to pay for it, he only wanted to be able to go out on the 2008 Presidential campaign and brag that he was the first to bring about healthcare.
Report Post »4libertyandjustice
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:52pmsorry mitt i wont vote for you either! we need substance and sticktewardivness for the constitutional values that this country so desperately needs.. another Ronald Reagon please!
Report Post »psst
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:49pmHe wants to debate Soetoro if he’s the nom?
Report Post »Soetoro will say, “Wassup Mitt, thanks for paving the way for Soetoro Care,ya know, I’m glad you tested it before I could implement it ntionwide, thanks mucho”
sambachico
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:36pmLOL…. that’s so true. Mitt would spend the whole campaign trying to re-convince people he didn’t mean it when he invented RomneyCare…
Report Post »JohnnyJT South Philly
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:48pmHe a RINO
Report Post »SnowWolf
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:45pmas bad as Obama is I think He will Mop the Floor with Every current Republican Candidate….What a bunch of Keystone Kops
Report Post »1stAdmendment
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:36pmHe should defend it, he should point blank say,”Romneycare is no good!
Report Post »jdog777
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:36pmNo talk about the shrinking the scope and size of the government? Not my candidate.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:47pm@jdog777,he likes big government, if a dog a mangy dog that bites,takes a bath,get rid of all the fleas. is he still a mangy dog,yep and he still bites hen never addressed the biting part. he is still a dog.
Report Post »??WITH _ OLDNESS
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:34pmWe NEED a Better and STRONGER candidate. I think Romney is not the Answer. Will a True Freedom loving Candidate PLEASE Stand UP!
Report Post »Louie Louie the Progressive
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:54pmIt is pretty much understood by now that one person who may hold veto power over Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels’ potential presidential run is his wife, Cheri Daniels. There are numerous articles out there describing her reticence. She is sometimes said to be “very cool” and “uneasy” about a run, or not “sold on the idea,“ or she ”has publicly expressed her discomfort over the possibility,“ even as her ”public schedule” features an uptick in public appearances.
Now, some of what Cheri Daniels feared about her husband making a run for the White House is playing out in the press in advance of any decision, as the media starts to chew on the marital strife that the Daniels have been through (and, by the way, has by all appearances overcome). During the ’90s, Cheri and Mitch split, and for a time, she was married to another man. Ben Smith terms this the “Cheri problem.“ Dan Amira at Daily Intel describes this as ”Mitch Daniels’ Weird Marriage.”
And in the Washington Post’s Style section today, the whole Cheri-as-the-deciding-factor gets a full treatment, and the couple’s “complicated personal history” is at the heart of the piece. But the most interesting part of the article is this sentence: “In exchange for anonymity, an official for another GOP prospect provided contact information for the ex-wife of the man Cheri Daniels married, in the years between her divorce and remarriage to Daniels.”
It just goes to show that Cheri Daniels is smart to be
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:32pmNice try Mitt. Paul Ryan 2012
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:39pm@gonzo, afternoon, it is finally raining here in my part of Texas, i know i have posted this several times,but i is great ,we needed it bad and the farmers and fire fighters needed it more, thank god for this blessing today, have a great Thursday afternoon.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:46pmGlad it’s raining, Obama wasn’t going to help, that’s for sure. I guess federal disaster relief is only for blue states now!
Report Post »Texas Grasshopper
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:47pmrain ……yeah !!!! just started !!!!
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:52pm@gonzo,true that, we don’t need his communist money,we Texans take care of our own, he can bet the farm,he won’t win Texas again.,any way have a great day,
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:55pm@texas grasshopper , it has been so long since we have had this much rain, but we are glad to get, hope you get just as much, as we have here in Franklin ,good luck and pray for more.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:41pmI wish Ohio could have sent some of it’s record rainfall your way. This is the most rain in Ohio history, since they have been recording it.
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:31pmWe cannot afford to feed – house – clothe – educate and care for everyone that lives in the USA.
It’s not sustainable!
OPEN Markets – OPEN trade – OPEN business is the way that we can survive.
Report Post »Yes – we will need charity – but it should be for those who CAN’T – not for those who CAN or REFUSE TO
Zorro6821
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 9:20amHow is open trade working for you. Seems like the Chinese are doing well with our open society. You sound like Soros.
Report Post »Texas Grasshopper
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:31pmSTUDENT LIFE AT TEXAS SCHOOLS ??
http://studentlife.tamu.edu/glbt/
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:31pmTrump for President!! Mitt Roni+healthcare=Disaster
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:55pmOh, give me a break on Trump! His poll numbers dropped like Katie Couric’s ratings!
Report Post »Ballgame
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:56pmLOL, Trump for court jester! Talk about RINO week. Have you looked at Trumps background? You look up RINO on urban dictionary and there is a picture of Trump right next to Romney and McCain.
Report Post »LibertyGoddess
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:05pmTrump is not a moral man. Allen West has both morality and smarts. Romney has both, but one of the posters already said, he (Huckleberry and Palin) need to move on.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 9:07pmTrump is for Trump………
Report Post »Kippop222
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:30pm*Yawn*
Report Post »What just happened?
Ballgame
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:12pmNothing…Go back to sleep dear. It was just a bad dream. Yes I know RINOs are scary.
Report Post »tommee
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:30pmRomneycare = Obamacare
Report Post »avi8tor
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:57pmDon’t want Romney or Snewt for POTUS…
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:38pmNewt woke me up when he did the Global Warming commercial with Pelosi. He’s a smart guy, but seems sneaky. I haven’t really liked his or Carl Roves comments about some people either.
Report Post »Unalienable Rights
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:47pmHe solved tough problem on a state level that no one else was willing to tackle. We all whine about federalism, but when a true federalists comes around, people judge him negatively on some of his state policies. Maybe Obama was right the other day when he said Republicans keep moving the goal posts.
Report Post »Ex_Masshole
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 5:34pm@Unalienable Rights: Romney likes to talk about how he’s a great business man. In business we don’t solve problems by creating other (bigger) problems, or by pushing them around. He’s a smart man and I believe him when he says he thought he was doing the right thing, but in the end, he was wrong and he’s not man enough to admit it. We don’t need any more “leaders” like that.
Report Post »Zorro6821
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 9:02amFeeble minded people do not understand the difference. First off I tip my hat to Romney. He made a bold attempt to make healthcare more accessible and affordable. Notice I said attempt. I am not sure if it is working or not, however to claim that his vision was the same as Obama’s is foolish. Lets look at the facts, Unless you are currently getting your entitlement healthcare through, Government which accounts for approximately 50% of the population ( Medicare, Medicaid, Va, Union taxpayer funded care and Government state and federal workers care, then you have no right to criticize. The secondary entitlement is your employer paid care, you have no right to criticize. That leaves approx 6%-10% of us who actually pay their own premiums. We are the ones who feel the pain as we pay yours through taxes and ours to run our business. So if you are pay $15,000 out of your pocket then you may want some fixes to bring costs down. The soaring cost of care discourages entrepreneurs. So all you fakes who are always slamming solutions, ask yourself where do I get my care and am I willing to give it up for the sake saying you are not on government care. I say repeal and replace care
Report Post »with a system that will truely drive down costs. At least Romney tried!!!
mtorres20
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:28pmLike it or not States have the Consitutional right to do this. The Argument is not the same for Obamacare that would force this down the throats of everyone in the country. Mitt tried to address this issue and overall he should have realize the goverment is neccesary evil and you should avoid giving it more power than necessary. I think he has been clear that this would not work nation wide.
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:41pmIf you have to go back and explain yourself in an hour long news conference you are admitting you made a mistake.
Report Post »Ballgame
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:44pmBreaking News…Its RINO week on the Blaze!!!…Stay Tuned.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:50pmSprechen Zie, RINO???
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:54pmThats correct – if the States want to offer something like this for themselves, yes they can Constitutionally do it, however the Fed CANNOT, it IS Unconstitutional and its a severe abuse of the Commerce Clause and furthermore the Federal Govt cannot force you to use a service or pay for the non-use of a service, there in lies the defeat of Obamacare or any Federal healthcare program, its illegal and Unconstitutional.
Romneycare is an example of State run Healthcare which shows that its severely cost overrun, bogged down in managerial issues, abuse and fraud. The MA system is over 300% its original projected cost… its actually a great argument for Romney to show that “hey we tried this on a State level and couldn’t do it right, on a National level it will be a tremendous disaster.”
I still don’t want Romney for President either way, he Huckabee, Palin, McCain are all tired old players and they need to move on….
Cain is very good, West is as well, even Trump with all his bluster, man has a serious set of balls on him and he doesn’t lose, so put him behind the country and the country wont lose… so any of them would be a great choice for President.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 2:58pm@Mtorres20
True, this case is one of what the people of their respective states want or do not want; the case with Obamacare – unconstitutional to say the least – is the difference between the states and the forcing of the government upon the governed when they have declared they do not want to, and there is no kind of standing authority to do so by the federal government.
Report Post »Bill in Texas
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:21pmDude looks like a RINO!
Report Post »jeffyfreezone
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:30pmBig govt is big govt, whether it’s state or federal. I like SMALL govt both state and federal.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:35pmBetter to man up and admit your mistake then pansy out and not. Still not sure if I would vote for the guy.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:40pmA naked RINO Megan McCain yesterday…Now a lying RINO Mitt for brains Romney today…It is RINO week isnt it?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:49pmThose defending Rhino Romney please quote the Constitution giving States the ability to create rights any more then the federal government having the ability…
Don’t give your parrot opinion, give the actual words of the Constitution…
50 state mandates is as bad or worse then one federal mandate…Both are mandates…Neither are Constitutional…
Romney=Inconsistent…Romneycare
West=Inconsistent..Votes no obamacare repeal
Huckabee=Inconsistent…Raised taxes,progressive
Newt=Inconsistent..Cheats while going after Clinton…
Cain=Inconsistent…Won’t talk bout fed, former employer…
Trump=inconsistent…It’s trump nothing else needed said
Santuram=Inconsistent…pro cap/trade I believe…
7 down…Who’s next..
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 3:51pmSorry Mitt, I supported you last go round, But i want someine with better instincts than you. You should have known how poisonous Romneycare was and no amount of weaseling will get you out of this. Either confess your crime and throw yourself on the mercy of the Party or forget the nomination. We don’t need Obamacare light.
Report Post »M-Theory
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:09pm@Okie from Muskogee; Bill of Rights Amendment #10: “The powers not delegated to the United States [Federal Government] by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it [the Constitution itself] to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
That means that ANY power not specified as a Federal power, is a State or People power. That would include healthcare if the State so chooses. The States were meant to be more powerful than the Federal Government because they are a level closer to the People. OK if you don’t like Romney, but everyone saying that Romneycare = Obamacare doesn’t understand the difference between power to the States vs power to the Feds. Massachusetts voted to have State healthcare. Period. The People had a choice. Get over it.
Report Post »Marc
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:09pm@ Okie. Who’s constitution, the federal or the state. States have always had the rights to regulate commerce in their own borders. I live in North Carolina and we are required to have auto insurance. Whereas, our neighbors in Tennessee do not. In many Northern States, they can annex for economic development. Whereas in NC, it is against the law to do that. Most Southern states are ‘Right To Work’ states. Whereas many northern states have laws that protect unions who picket or walk.
All these laws I’ve mentioned are laws regulated by the state. And every state is different.
I could easily see the population of Mass wanting Universal Health Care. As long as I don’t have to pay for it, why do I care? Its their choice. Let them live with it.
Report Post »AllAmericanG
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:32pm@Okie from Muskogee
Report Post »I think you misunderstand Rep. West’s position on Obamacare. What he said was let’s stop chipping away at Obamacare by defunding little peices and preventing tiny portions from being implemented. He wants to GO AFTER Obamacare and destroy it. The current tactics are the equivilent of how we approach wars, which in case nobody has noticed, is not to win them. If we’re going to get ourselves into the battle the approach of a 1,000 papercuts isn’t going to defeat Obamacare; but a well orchestrated plan of attack will.
Secret Squirrel
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:34pm….
Report Post »Who cares what the differences are?
They are both dismal failures.
I’ve lost faith in Romney too.
avenger
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:37pmmitt..give it a rest,the libs love you because they know you will LOOSE. no more rinos,professional politicians or moderates….
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:54pmHe is a professional politician! No vote from me!
Report Post »Patrick in AZ
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 4:56pmAgreed – the only real difference that matters is State Government vs. Federal Government – States have the constitutional authority to do this, the Federal Government does not.
Report Post »LibertariansUnite
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 5:24pmRegardless of this guy’s ideals, he is bought, plain and simple.
Another RINO, just keeping the status quo alive.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 5:39pm@MTheory
Yes States reserve rights to protect and serve the people, those people govern, individually..Very good..
Where does it say States can force anything? If a State can force Health insurance can it force all commerce? Regulate and force are different…
@Marc
Yes auto insurance shouldn’t be forced..You can’t force something on someone else, even if you think it’s better for them…Otherwise it will be done to you as you all see now…You can allow, regulate, and protect not Force…The Federal Government should have said NO Massachusetts you can’t force commerce, you can regulate it..
Right to work was a bill to allow someone to CHOOSE not force you to work and pay union dues..
States can’t force anything…That’s the reason of the Federal, to protect
Report Post »Do Obama like Osama.
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 5:40pmobamacare’s end benefactor is the Democrat party.
that is a major indicator of obama’s criminal intent
Report Post »compared to romney’s.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 5:52pm@AllAmericanG
I hear ya on West but this is my concern…There a vote in front of him, to send an attack on obamacare…He chooses no..
He excused himself by saying he wants to focus on bigger issues..He is also saying he wants to take Obamacare down all at once..You go to his site as PatriotDave says to do you will see he agrees with part of Obamacare. That’s fine. So why would he want to take everything at once and not chip away all the bad? Â A war is also won by many small battles…
Say what you mean mean what you say..What does he see bigger then a chance to chip a piece of Obamacare away if the votes right before him to do so especially if you likes parts of obamacare…That bothers me…inconsistent..Appreciate your thoughts
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 7:12pmNo NO Romney!!
Report Post »TeaParty2012
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 9:27pmThat blanket statement is wrong… States don’t have the right to do this unless their constituion would allow it. Many states could not… Where do you think those paying for the free care for the freeloaders would move if some states were to do this… And in the end the US govt. would have to bail out the states that did this on their own.
Mitt… Don’ go away mad just go away………………
Report Post »Cartooner
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 10:11pmStates have constitutions, too. While I‘m sure some can do this I’ll bet there‘s quite a few that can’t.
Report Post »No1YaKnow
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 11:24pmI agree about the states rights issue 100%. Yes, the states should have the right to do this. However, what the issue is remains that Romney thought it was a good plan–which it was NOT. It speaks to his mindset about healthcare and how it should be run and lets us know once and for all how much of a lefty he really is. So….while there are some of you who say “like it or not…this is legal…”—so is the HEALTHCARE LAW now not by our choice. Whether it‘s legal or not has no bearing on the fact that it isn’t something we want nor do I think many is Mass wanted it. Again—-it speaks to the thought process of Romney and how he would view things from a national standpoint. He never has been and definitely (now) never will be a viable candidate.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:25amOkie from Muskogee, I agree completely with your post ending with, “7 down…Who’s next?”
You’d think an arrogant President, who is nothing but a Islam loving athiest liar, who is obviously trying to ruin our economy, destroy our country, shred our Consitution, and become an absolute dictator, one would inter those who oppose him in concentration camps, if not in graves, would be easy to vote out of office. God above, who would vote for someone like that?
Interesting that Republicans haven’t yet come up with a candidate that could challenge him in an election. I guess potential Republicans are even more evil than President Obama.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:48am“Convinced?”
Nope. NEXT!
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:11amA government must demonstrate more than “rational relation” between its action and an identified policy goal, the Jacobson standard. It must demonstrate that the proposed impingement on the liberty and privacy interest does not impose an undue burden unsatisfied by an important interest of the government. This principle is exemplified in Cruzan v. Missouri, in which Chief Justice Rehnquist, writing for the Court, stated :
Report Post »The Fourteenth Amendment provides that no State shall “deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” The principle that a competent person has a constitutionally protected liberty interest in refusing unwanted medical treatment may be inferred from our prior decisions. In Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11, 2430 (1905), for instance, the Court balanced an individual‘s liberty interest in declining an unwanted smallpox vaccine against the State’s interest in preventing disease. Decisions prior to the incorporation of the Fourth Amendment into the Fourteenth Amendment analyzed searches and seizures involving the body under the Due Process Clause and were thought to implicate substantial liberty interests. See, e.g., Breit haupt v. Abrams, 352 U.S. 432, 439 (1957) (”As against the right of an individual that his person be held inviolable … must be set the interests of society…”)
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:15amContinued:
[. . .] But determining that a person has a “liberty interest” under the Due Process Clause does not end the inquiry; “whether respondent’s constitutional rights have been violated must be determined by balancing his liberty interests against the relevant state interests.” Youngberg v. Romeo, 457 U.S. 307, 321 (1982). See also Mills v. Rogers, 457 U.S. 291, 299 (1982).
While the Cruzan Court went on to hold that Missouri’s actions were reasonable and did not unduly burden the privacy and liberty interests of the petitioners, it reaffirmed the rule that a government must do more than merely demonstrate a rational relation between its policy goal and its actions.
If the federal government, or the State of Missouri, attempted to regulate the medical treatment or the dietary habits of persons in the Nation or in the State of Missouri, either will need to demonstrate that the proposed action does not unduly burden the privacy and liberty rights of such persons.
Forcing commerce intrudes liberty not to commerce..Therefore, States can not force Medical Insurance….We have been taught to think collective, progressive, not individualism as the Constitution promotes and protects.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:23am@JZS
Inconsistency is just a sign of someone who has a hard time with being truthful IMO…
Ron Paul could beat BO…Ron Paul is the answer to restoring the country as everyone proclaims they want to do…Unfortunately, a lot find him “odd” because he speaks and talks Constitutionally! That says a lot of how Americans have been taught and trained to think…
We now have Progressives who ate the Democrats and Progressives who ate the Republicans…There is really only one who consistently without a doubt speaks Constitutionally, Ron Paul…Why Americans can’t understand that and stand with him shows true Republicans do not exist…It’s sad… :-(
Report Post »Code_Orange
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 7:06amPlease support Mitt any way you can, Donate all available money and time to his election, Thanks .
Report Post »Code_Orange
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 7:09amMrs. leoprd, your comments make you sound like someone whao already has a health plan and possibly uses entitlements, but you seem critical or skeptical about the rest of us.
Report Post »TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 3:12amHe has to go back and explain himself because he is continually misrepresented by the pundits and the press. A State can legally legislate a crappy healthcare law like that. The federal government cannot. I would oppose Romneycare in my state, but the the 10th amendment says that “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” Romney’s explanation of the legality of his plan and the difference between it and Obamacare is accurate.
Report Post »Ceefoo
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 3:20amThis guy doesnt have a shot in hell at winning in 2012. The best Mitt can do is endorse and hope for a VP spot. Obamacare is Romneycare!
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