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Watch Sen. John Kyl Repeatedly ‘Correct’ Bob Schieffer on Tax ‘Cuts’

Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) wants everyone to know: the current debate about tax cuts isn’t a debate about tax cuts.

On yesterday’s “Face the Nation,” Kyl repeatedly corrected host Bob Schieffer when the CBS reporter continued to call Bush-era tax cuts, well, “tax cuts.” Instead, Kyl is trying to change the language to tax rates. His argument is that the “cuts” have been the prevailing “rates” for the last ten years, and therefore are the norm.

Kyl’s correcting was so incessant and emphatic that during one sentence where Schieffer began saying “cuts” he interrupted himself and let Kyl finish the sentence:

(via NewsBusters)

This could signal a new tactic by Republicans in the weeks to come. By erasing the word “cuts” from the debate, the GOP may be able to also erase the demonization Democrats are building against wage earners above $250,000 — a group Republicans say includes many average small business owners.

Comments (125)

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  • takemout
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:28pm

    Shieffer is such a light weight he makes Sen. Kyl look good

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  • Societal Misfit
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:05pm

    No they are “Tax Rates” to infer that they are “Tax Cuts” is to infer the intention to enact legislation that would produce lower “Tax Rates” than those that are currently in place. So yes Senator Kyl is right in his consistent corrections.

    That said, I still believe that we, as a nation, would be better off if we did away with the current tax system and replaced it with a Fair Tax / Consumer Tax at a rate of 15% to 20%. As of current the total amount of taxes being exhumed from a paycheck is around 25% to 28%. The thing about the Fair Tax / Consumer Tax that makes it fair though is that everyone pays their fair share from poor to wealthy, legal citizen to illegal alien, everyone pays. As well with such a tax system you can cut or do away with the corporate tax rate thereby possibly bringing American businesses back to America, as well lure more foreign businesses in also. Its would be a heck of a lot more efficient than the system we have now, although in a perfect world, of which there is no such thing, there would be no taxes. lol

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    • Lantern
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:20pm

      Who, then, defines fair?

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    • drajhil
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 2:17pm

      I don’t know how much of a “social misfit” you are, but you’re certainly naïve, if you buy into the Fair Tax scam, which is being pushed by the same bunch of wealthy corporatists who always stick their hands into our pockets. Behind the usual smokescreen of numbers, these people intend to get rid of progressive taxation, which would saddle the poor and middle class in America with even more of the tax burden. (Does anyone believe that the rich would promote a tax plan what would have them pay more?!)
      As for corporate taxes, two out of three American corporations currently pay NO income tax! Exxon Mobil, the most profitable corporation that ever existed, got a tax refund! Do you think that businesses move overseas to avoid taxes? The truth is they export jobs in order to minimize payroll (which constitutes around 80% of most business expense) and to avoid complying with environmental and safety regulations. Cutting their taxes would obviously do nothing to persuade them to move their factories and stores back to the U.S. What they really want is to force Americans to work for a dollar or two a day in dangerous, filthy conditions that trash the environment, because that’s the deal they have overseas.
      How come you don’t know this? Why do you believe such blatant and nonsensical lies instead? The facts are out there for anyone to find, yet you (apparently) sit there in your underwear each night, while Beck and Hannity and the other clowns at Faux News shovel horse manure into your heads. It’s crazy!

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    • tranquilrider
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 4:59pm

      @drajhil
      When your only source of information comes from Fox news, these threads are the result.
      They believe that whatever Beck preaches must be true or he’d be fired. I dare them to dispute the information on the link provided below

      http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2010/dec/03/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-paints-beleaguered-wilmington-ohio-real/

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    • komponist-ZAH
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 6:29pm

      @Drajhil–
      No, corporations ship jobs overseas because we have the second-highest corporate tax rate in the world. Your argument defeats itself: no the “rich” would not support something that would have them pay more taxes, but they would support something that helps them make more money, and if they make more money, won’t they pay more in taxes under your beloved “progressive” income tax?

      Granted, a national sales tax is not as good an idea as it seems. A flat-rate income tax is the right way to go, everyone above poverty level pays the same rate, no exceptions.

      Your little jab at Exxon is based on misleading data. Yes they have largest lump sum profits in history, but when you look at their profits on the dollar they actually make much less than many smaller corporations.

      What is it with the left’s hatred of successful business? Why can’t you stand that someone, somewhere, might have more? Would you not admit that society in which the wealthy have some power is better than one in which only the powerful have wealth?

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    • Oil_Robb
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 6:32pm

      @Trannyquilrider……..And you get your news from Sargent schultz…that boy Racheal Madcow and Kieth Bathtub boy Obermann?…..on MSNBC

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    • komponist-ZAH
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 6:33pm

      Actually, Tranquil, we have something called common sense. You should try it sometime.

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    • tranquilrider
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 7:04pm

      @Oil_Robb
      Typical Blazer response. Name calling instead of disputing the facts.
      Game, set & match!

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    • tranquilrider
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 7:18pm

      @komponist-ZAH
      another chcken s#*!t
      still waiting for someone to dispute that Beck lied

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    • tranquilrider
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 7:20pm

      You people are pathetic!!!!!!!!
      You are completely willing to ignore FACTS in order to attack me personally.
      Too much kool-aid will rot your teeth

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    • komponist-ZAH
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 7:36pm

      Typical leftie, name-calling instead of disputing the facts.

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    • tranquilrider
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 7:55pm

      @komponist-ZAH
      Be a man of integrity.
      Did Beck lie???????????

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    • komponist-ZAH
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 10:31pm

      I am not Glenn Beck, it is not my job to defend him. I don‘t know what he knows and doesn’t know. If you want to know the answer to that question, then e-mail him and ask him yourself: me@glennbeck.com

      That said, it doesn’t seem like it to me. He never said they didn’t take unemployment. His point was about how the people of the town came together throught the churches.

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    • drajhil
      Posted on December 8, 2010 at 2:05am

      Someone wants to engage at last. Okay, Komponist, here goes.

      According to the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office between 1998 and 2005 2 out of 3 U.S. corporations paid no federal income tax.
      http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08957.pdf

      Forbes (not exactly a liberal source!) reported that General Electric generated $10.3 billion in pretax income, but paid no tax. Instead it received a $1.1 billion credit.
      http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes_2.html

      The nominal rates for corporations are irrelevant, since they can use tax shelters & other maneuvers to avoid paying. You don’t have to believe me about the cheap labor. Try Lou Dobbs, another good conservative source.
      http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/CNN_Apple_Exporting_America_For_Cheap_Labor_Overseas/

      My “jab” at Exxon said nothing about the company’s return on the dollar. I merely described it accurately as the most profitable corporation in history, earning, for example, $1300/ second during 2007.
      http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/01/news/companies/exxon_earnings/

      Tax rates give virtually no information about the real effect of taxes on peoples’ lives. A family making $50,000/year and paying 10% tax will have after-tax income barely above poverty. A stock broker making $50 million and paying 10% will have $45 million left. Anyone who thinks these are equivalent taxation rates or that they’re in any way “fair” is an idiot!

      I have no problem with successful businesses, as long as they pay the freight. As I demonstrated above, major corporations operating in the U.S. do not! They take advantage of our society’s resources, make fabulous profits, and give little or nothing in return. If you did more than memorize Glenn Beck’s talking points, you’d understand this. As for your rhetorical question, we live in a nation where the richest 1% have more wealth than the bottom 90% of the population. Furthermore their control of political power is accelerating the rate at which they take wealth away from the poor and middle class. You may want to live your life as an economic serf, but I don’t! As for your “common sense”, it’s common all right, which helps to explain why the country’s spiralling down the drain.

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  • wai2000.com
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:05pm

    I find it interesting the push to call them cuts. Yet we NEVER hear any of the white House policies called tax increases. Why not call it by what it is? A continuation of the current rates or to raise them. That is what is being discussed. Yet they color them falsely by calling it tax cuts. It then pulls the talks to another false premise of are these cuts for the rich. Instead of talking about the actual point is it better to continue the current rates or increase them.
    This keeps the real discussions from happening.

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  • Pat_in_NC
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:05pm

    A more effective tactic is to start questioning why the reporters are advocates for the obama talking points.
    Turn the tables on the lefties so they are unmasked as ‘advocates’ rather than ‘reporters’.

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  • Dale
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:05pm

    dont ****** me bro;

    Is that you Charlie? I thought you had enough trouble with your house colleagues to spend you time here.

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  • Tony
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:04pm

    Bob Schieffer was simply keeping the discussions centered on the talking points provided him by the Democrats and was caught off guard by Kyl’s corrections. For years Schieffer got away with using Democrat “talking points” because ABC, CBS, and NBC had a monopoly on who and what messages got aired as “news”. Republican guests, knowing this, were careful to respond on “script” or lose any future opportunities to be seen nationally.

    Thanks to Fox News and the internet, the monopoly has been broken and the Republicans are slowly waking up to this and no longer have to put up with the garbage handed out by Schieffer or any other host on the state’s media outlets.

    “We the people” must not allow our opinion of any person or any issue be affected by the state’s media, ever again!

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  • Owl Works
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:02pm

    There should be a law that ALL government employees (Presidents, Senators, Representatives & Civil Servants alike) should pay the top tax rate starting with the first dollar of pay. Then let’s see how they feel about soaking the rich.

    Maybe have the FCC throw the media in, too, and they’ll start getting it right.

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  • Sondergard
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:01pm

    so now rep are going to give in and give these bum 99ers more money just to extend the bush tax cuts?? even though they should extend it FOR ALL, if they give in then nothing has really changed..quit spending our money on bs and bums. like one intelligent person said on fox, put them to work! make them go pick up trash or clean some public toilets. I would feel disgraceful if i was sitting on my but for any amount of time getting money from strangers. i would feel like a waste of space, but i guess thats just my way of thinking…

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  • alcarfl
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:57pm

    Let’s make this simple. Last year’s tax rates will continue into 2011. That’s it. That’s all. Continuation of the current tax rate as per the previous /existing tax codes. Bush is out of the loop. Charlie Rangle wrote the code. Ask him to define it.

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    • Oil_Robb
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 6:27pm

      Charkie Rangel…stole the pen….he cant re-write it

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  • sbenard
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:57pm

    NEWS MEDIA’S PROPAGANDA IS THE REAL STORY!

    Kyl’s term “tax rates” is actually a much more accurate representation of what they really are. Why is it that only when totalitarian progressives want to RAISE them does the status quo suddenly become a tax CUT, when, for the last ten years, they have been tax existing tax RATES? You can’t leave something existing in place by CUTTING it, can you?
    This underscores that the media has imposed on the news its own progressive ideology, and that for many years, we have been living in a nation in which the media practices not mere bias, but PROPAGANDA and INDOCTRINATION of the population!

    SUGGESTION: Get used to using the term “totalitarian” before EVERY instance of the word “Democrat”, “liberal”, or “progressive” so that Americans will begin to realize the true nature of who these people are. They are, by nature, totalitarians, so let’s refer to them that way EVERY SINGLE TIME!

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  • spookydude
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:55pm

    If they Expire they would be the Obama TAX RAISES……

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  • Hoosier Daddy
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:51pm

    But what is the gubmit supposed to do? They take in 2.3 trillion dollars a year but they can’t find a way to survive on that. Noooo. They have to spend 3.6 trillion. They don’t want to, they HAVE TO. Sure.

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    • aLinedog
      Posted on December 7, 2010 at 1:19am

      You see, it’s like this. We, the Gvt.. make a lot of money. So.. we spend a lot of money. You understand.

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  • dont ****** me bro
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:45pm

    They ARE tax cuts. The current tax law was INTENDED to expire now.

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    • OneRepublic4us
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:55pm

      No, they are not tax cuts, they’re proposed tax increases and they were not made permanent originally because of the tax and spend communists……errr….liberals. And that includes RINOS.

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:57pm

      You’re right .They are not tax cuts. But when they do expire it will be a tax increase.

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    • 338lapua
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:16pm

      @don’t******mebro(I don’t reprint gay porn terms) They hope to head off the “Obama Tax Hikes”. Which will be and have been already on everyone.

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    • Oil_Robb
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 6:23pm

      If one day your taxes are HIGHER than the day before how can that be a tax cut?…..You are foolish….

      PS…THE KING HAS NO CLOTHES

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  • Adam Coble
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:44pm

    I love it. They have been playing the semantics game for so long it is about time we call things for what they really are.

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  • airbrnmtr
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:41pm

    I dont care what they are called just DONT raise my Taxes anymore!!!!!!!!

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  • Lantern
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:39pm

    Senator Kyl is correct, they are not cuts. The Democrats are trying re-invent their image, by saying they are for the “middle class.” They are for nobody, but themselves. They have had the vote for the last two years.

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    • drajhil
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:14pm

      Odd Jon is being disingenuous, as usual, and the right wing base is being gulled, also as usual. From the day they were passed through Reconciliation each of the Bush tax cuts was destined by law to sunset in ten years, so calling them “the norm” is flatly dishonest.
      It’s on a par with referring to people with incomes above $250,000 a year as “wage earners”! The number refers to taxable income, so the net earnings that Kyl wnats to call “wages” would have to be closer to $350,000 – or more than $150/hour! How many workers in the U.S. are paid “wages” of
      $150/ hour? It’s ridiculous double speak.
      Anyone who believes it is a complete moron.
      And Kyl is a shameless liar!

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    • tranquilrider
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 4:51pm

      You are correct on all points sir.

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  • whototrust
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:38pm

    Perfect, well done Senator Kyl! 100% accurate.

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    • neverending
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 11:49pm

      He is correct and Senator Kyl is one of the most decent, honest Senator you can have. He is totally devoted to this country and to our State of Arizona. He always makes us proud. Need hundreds more like him.

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  • OneRepublic4us
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:38pm

    They also continue to ask how these “tax cuts” are going to be funded which is something that boggles my mind for the obvious reason. I want proponents of the dream act to answer that question. I’ve heard that the estimate for funding the dream act is $60 billion a YEAR. How do they intend to fund it?

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    • Conservo-Atheist
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:57pm

      I totally agree with you! How do you “Pay For” something that doesn’t exist? …as in, if these tax dollars were never there to begin with, why do we need to find a way to “pay for” them???

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    • sbenard
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:04pm

      Good point. The entire premise of their assumption is that spending has nothing to do with the problem. Not confiscating the fruit of someone’s labor is only a problem if they PLAN to spend even more than that amount! They could choose to CUT SPENDING instead. Then cutting taxes would be a moot point. It is ceding the argument to them. It’s like admitting that we must have tyranny in America, so how best to impose that tyranny! The answer is that we don’t want their progressive tyranny — for ANYONE!

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  • Juan Gault
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:37pm

    It would appear Mr Schieffer should consider retiring,as age has caught up to the gentleman.

    I am jes saying.

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  • TNT1
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:35pm

    He’s right but its still Washington two step with the word game

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  • republitarian
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:34pm

    Good. “Tax rates for the rich!” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:52pm

      EXTEND THE BUSH TAX CUTS?
      The politicians are engaged in a debate about who is to have their Bush tax cuts extended.

      What you should remember is that taxes are levied when the government spends money, not when they pass tax legislation. Tax legislation only determines who pays the tax. If the tax legislation doesn’t cover government expenditures, the tax is on your money and is paid by inflation of the dollar. So don’t be swayed by promises of tax cuts, without reduction in government spending. Any such promise is a simple violation of the first law of thermodynamics, you can’t get something for nothing, so don’t be taken in by their fool’s rhetoric.

      The major difference between capitalism and tyranny is the purpose of deploying capital. The Capitalist (entrepreneur) invests capital for the purpose of creating wealth and profit. The wannabe tyrant expends capital for political purposes. Reward of his political cronies or obtaining political support by extortion or bribery is the wannabe tyrant’s rationale.

      The use of capital by the wannabe tyrants depletes the nation’s wealth. In many cases the depletion of wealth actually exceeds the expenditure because the programs funded inhibit the creation of wealth. When the entrepreneur successfully invests capital, the nation’s wealth increases and the value of the dollar is enhanced.

      However tax cuts are not without merit. Remember, the wannabe tyrants regarding any success in increasing taxes as a license to increase spending.

      The only real solution is to “THROW THE RASCALS OUT.”
      http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • rbanis
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:34pm

      Tax Rates are different from tax revenues. Reducing rates, especially on the generators of wealth (i.e. “the rich”) often results in an increase in tax revenues. Reasons being, more incentive to generate income when you can keep a higher percentage, less incentive to hire tax lawyers to avoid taxes, and less incentive to hide your billions in Caribbean banks (as is done by George Soros) This effect of increasing revenue from decreasing rates is described by the Laffer Curve, and very well explained in Prof Chuck Holmes’ latest book, All You REALLY Need to Know About Economics: Why Government Bailouts, “Job Creation” and Other Socialist Schemes Don’t Work ISBN 978-1596300675 The book is a great aid to winning arguments at cocktail parties. I wish all these characters would quit arguing about the phony COST of tax rate decreases and realize raising tax rates is likely to inhibit productivity and actually DECREASE REVENUES BY RAISING RATES. They’re arguing about the wrong damn thing!
      Here’s a link to the explanation at amazon- http://www.amazon.com/REALLY-Need-Know-About-Economics/dp/1596300671/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1291659769&sr=8-1
      as noted further in the book, and by Societal Misfit in his post, the Fair Tax, by taxing consumption rather than production would bring back huge amounts of capital and production from the overseas tax havens. Wanna talk about “Stimulus?” Are Harvard grads really as stupid as they sound?

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    • EP46
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 4:35pm

      You can only have a TAX CUT for one year. Bush CUT tax rates from where Clinton had raised them. You thereafter had a TAX RATE that has stayed in place. If this rate is stopped it then becomes a TAX INCREASE for the first year, and any years thereafter are at the same RATE. I have pulled my hair out for months and months because the Rep. have continued this long letting the ‘word players’ on the left talk about TAX CUTS….THERE ARE NO TAX CUTS…….ONLY TAX INCREASES if the rate is changed.

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  • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:33pm

    Good, let the truth shine in the light of liberty and honesty.

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  • BQI
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:32pm

    What can you say about the liberal media. I’m shocked that anyone even looks at these liberals anymore.

    Conservative Blog- Black Quill and Ink: http://www.blackquillandink.com New article:“Gangsta Govment” Obama Administration

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:15pm

      The MSM will always be used to “get the message” out by Progressives. That is why they absolutely HATE Fox News.

      I really enjoy going to your blog, BQI. Great stuff.

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    • My Two Cents
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 2:28pm

      You can say they are all a bunch of lying jackasses.

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    • tranquilrider
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 4:49pm

      Fox uses the ter “tax cuts” as well.

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  • Reagan/Demint.deciple
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:30pm

    Atta, boy Senator.. Show him who’s boss

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    • IntheKnowOG
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 4:05pm

      Amen. It’s nice to see someone correct the narrative. Too long have the leftists changed facts using “simple” word substitutions too subtle for the “American Idol” audience to catch.

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    • Barry Soetoro
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 4:05pm

      Now if the good Senator could just also tell him that a “natural born citizen” is one born in the U.S. of TWO U.S. citizen parents (which I don’t have since my dad is Kenyan) perhaps I would have something to worry about. But he won’t. Want to know why? He is bought and paid for, just as they all are because of the 17th Amendment. Returning to founders plan by repealing that would eliminate nearly all corruption but George and I are betting you won’t do it.

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  • LadyLiberty
    Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:28pm

    kyl would garner more of my admiration had he not continued using earmarks.

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:54pm

      He’s from “the good ol’ boys” era. Hopefully the newly elected one won’t so stuck in the mud.

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    • HisStoryUn
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:55pm

      Agreed!

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 12:56pm

      LadyLiberty – That’s true, I’m not sure if all Republicans are getting the message. However this is extreme media bias. Spinning things to a left wing point of view by completely ignoring the facts is why nobody watches the MSM anymore. Bob should be ashamed.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8DnA4Ro9tQ
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIoEUTqhYmA

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:06pm

      Kyl is correct. These are not tax cuts that are being bantered about in Congress, they are tax INCREASES….and they are going to go up for everyone eventually. Taxes only have three ways to go: Stay the same. Go up. Go down. That’s it. Very simple. If they raise taxes on one set of incomes, they will come back and get the other sets too. Americans see thru the talking points now.
      What was that pre- Revolutionary War cry??? Something about “Taxation WITHOUT Representation”???

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    • Shurmus
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 1:17pm

      Death to property taxes, life to liberty. Outright ownership of our property is the one thing these vampires will try very hard to never allow…lost leverage is lost power.

      http://www.slugbuddies.com

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 3:13pm

      The Government and Media will never understand…IT’S OUR MONEY, Not theirs!!

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 3:37pm

      I get disgustd every time I see the words “Tax cuts” used by the media regarding this “Tax increase ”bill, even FOX regularily gets it wrong.

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    • Max jones
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 4:36pm

      Obama is a figurehead, a failed figurehead, but just a figurehead nonetheless. The real power behind the seal of the potus is a cabal of extremely wealthy, endlessly greedy, megalomaniacal criminals trying to overthrow all liberty loving governments and replace them with a form of statist socialism called the New World Order.

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    • tranquilrider
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 4:46pm

      Not quite sure why you people are blaming the media for using the words “tax cuts”. The BUSH administration implimented these tax cuts with an expiry date. Try learning the facts before commenting.

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    • JimMac
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 5:34pm

      Exactly.

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    • Doc_Slammin
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 5:59pm

      I SO agree. This exemplifies the need for earmark reforms.

      http://theindependentrant.blogspot.com/2010/12/great-earmark-debate.html

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    • Doc_Slammin
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 6:02pm

      Exactly! This is why we need earmark reform.
      ——————————————————————
      http://theindependentrant.blogspot.com/2010/12/great-earmark-debate.html

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    • AlaskaRick
      Posted on December 6, 2010 at 7:32pm

      Tax rates as you call them? LOL. The tax rates should be even lower than what Bush lowered them to.

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on December 7, 2010 at 5:49am

      @Max and Tranquil

      If 6 months is a long time in politics, ten years is eons. Our current tax rates are what they are and have been that way for eons (in political speak). Any move (or non-move) to increase the rates is a tax INCREASE not a tax CUT. Don’t blame this Democrat screw up on Bush.

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