Crime

‘We Are So Very Sorry’: Family of AZ Shooter Releases First Public Statement

While the family of Jared Lee Loughner continues to stay out of the public spotlight, the 22-year-old alleged killer‘s family reached out to the public today to offer their heartfelt condolences to the victims of their Loughner’s shooting spree last Saturday.

In a statement released late Tuesday afternoon, the family of the Tucson shooting suspect said they “don’t understand why” Saturday’s shooting rampage occurred, but that they “care very deeply about the victims and their families.”

“There are no words that can possibly express how we feel,” the statement reads in part. “We wish we could change the heinous events. … We are so very sorry for their loss,” the statement said.

The family also asked that the media respect its privacy.

Loughner’s parents, Randy and Amy Loughner, have kept out of the public eye since their son was apprehended Saturday and even skipped their son’s first court appearance on Monday.

George Payan, the Loughners’ next-door neighbor says the family has increasingly withdrawn from the community in recent years, but nevertheless was surprised to hear that Jared Loughner’s behavior had taken a turn for the worse.

“I‘ve learned more about his behavior reading the newspaper than anything I’d seen since he was a little boy,” Payan said. “His behavior this weekend, he didn’t display any of that in the neighborhood.”

“Things like this happen, but it’s always somewhere else. When it’s in your own neighborhood, it’s pretty hard to digest.”

George Osler, the father of one of Jared Loughner’s close friends, also described his shock to the Associated Press, noting that the relationship between Jared and his parents seemed to have recently deteriorated:

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  • meddlehead
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 8:00pm

    Who bought the gun? By all accounts this guy was not employable. Somebody gave him the several hundred dollars needed to purchase a firearm. Just because you have the right to do something clearly doesn’t always make it the right thing to do.

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    • Old Truckers
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 9:55pm

      The man is obviously guilty of many murders. Those present saw him do it.
      Why are we wrangling over the matter? Save the taxpayers money and execute him tomorrow morning at sunrise. Why do we drag this out for years to come?

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  • theprofessor1031
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:52pm

    @psychosis

    That is exactly what I was thinking. Congress is now taking this as a cue to create new restrictions on our 2nd amendment rights, but if the laws that are already on the books would have been enforced here, he wouldn’t have been able to get a gun legally. God this whole thing is so infuriating!

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  • dontbotherme
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:48pm

    The blame lies with the man who pulled the trigger. Per the father of the killer’s friend, the killer’s relationship with his parents was strained lately. Oftentimes, one does not know what one’s grown son is doing. …They must have known something was wrong with him. Out of control.

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  • pamela kay
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:47pm

    I can not imagine their pain. To think that you raised him from a baby to this. I am sure looking back they see that there were warning signs. They probably thought that he would come out of it. It can’t be easy for them. All the what ifs and I should have knowns must haunt their every moment. This young man may have hidden his true mental state of mind from them. I have known people with troubled children that were in denial until it was to late. He may not have shown severe signs until he became obsessed and probably then secluded himself to his room. I have great sorrow for them as well. Their privacy should be respected.

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  • Carbine1
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:37pm

    Uh Hu?

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  • Carbine1
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:36pm

    One thing interesting about this guys interview is that/this looked STAGED to me I don’t know about anyone else.@#$%?

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  • justawhoaman
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:29pm

    Speaking from experience, someone showed him how to use the gun. I had reason to defend myself and a friend showed me how to use a 9mm (Glock, Baretta, etc) and I had to go over the routine more than once. In order to keep it from shooting to the sky, you have to be very controlled and focused… because as the ammunition unloads quickly, it will force the gun upwards. He unloaded a 30 round clip, plus the one in the chamber. Jared had that 15 minutes worth of fame in the back of what was left of his mind.

    No one has a child this disturbed and doesn’t know that, as parents, they have a problem. These people aren’t social, either, are a bit disconnected, and simply did not know what to do.

    Research will undoubtedly show that in order to obtain a handgun, one must answer the question about whether you have ever been treated for mental illness. If Jared had not, he should have. He should never have been allowed to own a handgun… period. The laws already exist for this condition so don’t let people convince you that more laws are necessary!

    The Pima County Sheriff has a required lengthy explanation and possible discharge of duty. It is his job to know where the flareups are going to occur.

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    • Tucsonan
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 10:31pm

      Must one socialize with neighbors or anyone else for that matter to be considered sane? I prefer to keep to myself because my experience with neighbors has always been in your business. I beg to differ that because the parents didn’t socialize, they had a problem. The guy was 22 for goodness sakes. He is the only one responsible for his actions.

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  • donh2
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:19pm

    Show your face even if it is hung in shame ! Why is the media protecting this family ? Why hasn’t the media reported on the family connections to Giffords ? Jarred is a hebrew name. There are rumors this family belongs to the same synagogue as Rep Giffords. This could be a Soros network hit and NOT the work of an insane poor boy. This narritive which the media has scripted from a few anecdotal interviews at a Bill Ayers school could be just as fake as the original tea party narrative !!!!!

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  • ChromePony
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:18pm

    Smoke and Mirrors, People. Smoke and Mirrors….

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  • BarbWire
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:04pm

    Is one of you suggesting that – Maybe he was put up to it by somebody bigger? – Where’s your evidence of that? He doesn’t seem “with it” enough, organized mentally enough, to be of any value to someone who expects obedience from him.

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    • GoingBeck
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:08pm

      Just saying. Like a “Truther”.

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:13pm

      no, what we are implying, is if the sheriff had done his job, and the charges were allowed to go through the court system from his many arrests, any semi- conscious judge would have been able to glean from his actions and his school reports that he was unstable , and would have gotten him help

      BUT, due to the sheriffs failure to go forward with his previous charges, possibly influenced by the mother who worked for PIMA COUNTY , he wsa never confronted with the measures that would have either helped him, or prevent him from inflicting harm on others

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    • whybother
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 8:32am

      even more to the point, had this kid gone through the system even ONCE he would not have been able to purchase a gun through legal means. That doesnt eliminate the possibility of acquiring said weapon, but at least he wouldnt have been able to walk into Walmart and buy it.

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  • GoingBeck
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:03pm

    A nagging question that has bothered me as soon as
    reports about the number of shots and hits in such a
    short period of time came out:
    How did Loughner train himself to be such a prolific
    shooter? Is a Glock that easy to use? My gut tells
    me something about this doesn’t fit in the realm of
    reality.

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    • meddlehead
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 8:19pm

      I initially wondered how he scored so many head shots. It’s hard to be patient when our culture is under attack, but we need to wait for more facts to surface, Of course that assumes Bufford T Justice and the LSM are going to provide facts.

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:58pm

    sad for the parents but maybe the mother ”didn’t know” because she was so busy working inside PIMA COUNTY. sigh. it’s coming out worse how that ranting moron democrat PIMA COUNTY sheriff had already dismissed the threats by her son several times. the shooter‘s last name wasn’t “SMITH” or “JONES”… and they are scrubbing evidence and the sheriff is helping them by trying to deflect Truth with vitriol?! so how good friends are the sheriff and these people?! .. no doubts all of these people are covering their butts with steel plates.

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  • 912828Buckeye
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:58pm

    Told ya so

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  • milig
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:53pm

    Obviously the kid is sick. They might not have known how to get mental help and were hoping he will grow over it.
    Sad.

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    • BurntHills
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:01pm

      Not Buying Into It. the mother works in the county admin with the sheriff. she knew how to get Help just as her coworker the sheriff knew the PROPER procedures to get that psycho off the streets and into mental healthvcare for 72 hrs observation AT LEAST, no matter how many times they could have dragged him in. they FAILED TO.

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  • jdog777
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:48pm

    hind site is 20/20.

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  • tower7femacamp
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:48pm

    David Icke exposed the NWO scumbags
    http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=david+icke+exposes+nwo+bloodline

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:47pm

    OK im going to ask the questions our media is to stupid to ask

    1) why, after numerous arrests, numerous complaints from school administrators, students and teachers, and a denial to attend any classes on the premises, was nothing done?

    2) why, after numerous arrests, does this guy not have a record?

    3) why, with the numerous arrests, all charges were dismissed, or dropped before ever reaching a court of law?

    4) how much influence did the mother have in getting these charges dropped or dismissed, considering her position in the local administration, and her connections to the sheriff ?

    5 ) why are not one of the media outlets reporting on the connections, the obvious involvement before hand regarding his mental state, with the school, and the sheriffs office, and the lack of any action taken by them, and the growing evidence that his mental situation was swept under the rug with the influence of his mother and the ineptitude of the sheriffs office and the failure of the court system to follow through on any charges, or mental evaluations, though that failure may have been compounded on the sheriffs failure to either report or file the charges to begin with.

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:50pm

      P.S. >>>>> IF THE SHERIFF HAD DONE HIS JOB, THIS GUY WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PURCHASE A HAND GUN TO BEGIN WITH

      i place the blame where it belongs…………on the nutcase, the parents, and the sheriff for failing in his duty out of a favor for this guys mother who works in the administration

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    • jdog777
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:00pm

      and…. why is Gifford‘s youtube channel subscribed to Jared’s youtube channel.

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    • Bearfoot
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:02pm

      Appropriate questions.
      Lets hope they are answered in due course. I have known many fine parents and it is so heartbreaking to see their children choose a wicked life. Perhaps the parents are good and the son is not. That does happen.

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    • meddlehead
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 9:32pm

      Assuming the psycho pothead was not employable, who paid for the gun?

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    • pudssweetie
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:20am

      Psychosis, very good questions I would like to see answered myself. You would make a good investigator.

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  • the chemist
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:47pm

    YES… i knew it! The republicans! Oh… ahhh, i mean the demoncrats… ahh… well, come to think of it, maybe he was just one crazy insane mother F****R! Hard tp believe the “liberal” response to all of this… just watching msnbc will make your eyes bleed… it’s that bad:o(

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  • ShineTheLightBrighter
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:47pm

    Seems quite caculated, very odd indeed!

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  • Fight for America
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:46pm

    So what should we expect any parents in this type of situation to say? If they knew of a problem and tried to stop it, good for them. If they knew of a problem and didn’t try to stop it, how does the law feel about that? If they didn’t know about it and/or couldn’t have known about it, they couldn’t have helped. If they kept wearing blinders and saying everyone was picking on their kid, that’s a whole different deal.

    Recent news spoke about a mother who turned her son in because he was acting strangely, had mental problems, went out with a gun walking the streets every night. Good for her and good for the public.

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  • tower7femacamp
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:44pm

    How do you raise a Satanist ? and not know it ?
    If the kid was on Mind control prescription drugs then come clean and tell us ???
    Uptake inhibitors with Fluoride water
    http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2006/03/29/fluoride_levels_too_high_national_academies_what_the_press_release_did_not_mention.htm

    all we here is blame the gun, I say Blame the Prozac

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 5:50am

      I say blame Jerod Loughner. Why does everyone continue to attempt to find blame with everyone but the one the committed the crime? It’s absurd. This is how sound reasoning gets all watered down.

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  • civilunrestnow
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:43pm

    Something isn’t right about this. He had an occult like alter in the back yard. Shaved his head, posted all sorts of disturbing things online and they didn’t see his behavior as weird or troubling? The facts dont fit…

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    • flagkeeper
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:11pm

      Tongue in cheek (for the most part).

      What a “generous” amount of damning nutjob evidence we have. All we need now to seal the deal is to find dead cats buried in his yard. The shrine is almost too good to be true! However, both a confession note and pleading ths 5th? 2+2=6. Road workers even have cops pulling security, but not at a public event with multiple public officials and a large crowd? I mean, he got off 30 rounds with a handgun before a woman snagged a mag and someone tackled him? Must not have been many pro gun folks in the crowd. Almost too easy a target— so easy that a caveman could do it? Yep, a conscience dreaming druggy one, but without a handler? I am not so sure.
      For agruement sake, if there were some “conspiracy”-
      With whom lies the greater motives???
      Given the obvious answers, the question then becomes why would they go that far, now?
      Cue Jack Bouer 24 clock ticking…

      I’m just saying.

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    • meddlehead
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 9:37pm

      I thought the shaved head was a bit NBK. I bet you’ll find he was an avid fan.

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    • mrclean
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 10:20pm

      Flagkeeper–

      Read 101 post above. This sheriff ranting on and on like he has just makes him look crazy. There’s something going on here; it‘s as if he’s intentionally trying to rile everyone to get the spotlight off of himself. His behavior suggests he’s got something very crooked to hide. IMO of course.

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 5:43am

      @FLAGKEEPER — Maybe they were just trying to rid themselves of a couple of blue dogs.

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  • cheezwhiz
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:40pm

    Loughner’s parents, Randy and Amy Loughner, have kept out of the public eye since their son was apprehended Saturday
    —————-
    Sure they did.
    They had to sanitize the ‘ evidence’ before the FBI showed up with a warrant .
    BTW why should they come out public, the Humperdinky Sheriff is doing everything he can on their killer son’s behalf . Its not like the LSM is digging around for info on the killer or anything ….

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    • Highland
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:54pm

      Who is paying the lawyer’s fee? Not the parents, I’d wager. I doubt they could afford it. So who?

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:00pm

      Who is paying the lawyer’s fee? Not the parents, I’d wager. I doubt they could afford it. So who?

      ——–

      Erica Stedman maybe.
      Since by the time the killer is tried and sentenced, he will be pardoned anyway.

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    • komponist-ZAH
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:21pm

      He has a federal public defender, so the American taxpayer is paying the lawyer’s fee.

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    • mrclean
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 10:10pm

      There‘s something rotten about this whole thing in terms of the sheriff’s behavior from the get-go.

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    • CatB
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:51am

      Dupnik…..

      http://hennessysview.com/2011/01/10/sheriff-dupniks-culpability/#

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  • sing it out
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:39pm

    I feel so bad for the parents; they obviously had no idea what their son had become. I pray for them and all the victims…. such a heart breaking event.

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    • TX Progressive
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:55pm

      agreed, can’t imagine their pain right now…

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    • Marcobob69
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:58pm

      Can’t imagine what they are feeling. Such a sad situation all the way around.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:39pm

      I feel sorry for Bill Ayers too..

      http://redcounty.com/content/mayhem-draws-attention-radical-curriculum-tucson-schools

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    • meddlehead
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 8:04pm

      I would expect they feel that their demon seed finally lived up to his full potential.

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    • Pyx
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 10:24pm

      Sing It Out said
      QUOTE I feel so bad for the parents; they obviously had no idea what their son had become. I pray for them and all the victims…. such a heart breaking event. UNQUOTE

      Pyx said, QUOTE I don’t know, maybe its just me but,

      …perhaps there‘s something about one’s own children worshiping at a makeshift alter with a skull on it behind a tarpaulin in the back yard of the house that maybe would have made the parents have an idea. You know, actually lift a corner of the tarpaulin in the backyard and actually look.

      … But that’s just me. UNQUOTE

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    • Tucsonan
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 10:25pm

      The only charge against Jared in Pima county justice court is for possession of paraphenalia. He filed a motion to get that charge set aside but he completed diversion program which dismissed the charge. The judge threw out the request for set aside as he already completed and had the charge dismissed. This happened in Sept 2010. It is public record so anyone can search online via PCJC. If there were any other arrests, made, they were not documented in public record.

      The parents may not have been perfect parents, but this guy is 22 and a grown adult. Parents can not be held responsible for what their grown children decide to do. We don’t all raise our children according to what other people decide is the “correct” way to raise a child. You do the best you can do with what you have to do it with. At some point, once they become of age, you can’t control what they do. They HAVE to be held accountable for their own actions.

      If I decided (I’m 40something) to run rampid and do as Jared, would you blame my mother? I don’t think so.

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 5:47am

      @PYX — It’s not just you. I thought the same things.

      However, although I cannot hold the family and friends responsible for the crimes he committed, I do believe if the parents had intervened proactively, beforehand it COULD have went a long way in preventing the crimes he committed.

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  • rhaedge
    Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:37pm

    They never had any idea???

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    • Ironmaan
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:40pm

      Not their fault. Dude is 22. He on his own.
      http://guerillatics.com

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    • nothingbuthetruth
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:51pm

      I heard that one or both parents worked for the city. I want to ask the sheriff Dupnik, if he knew them personally and if he didnt act to get this kid arrested or hauled in for help because he knew them. These are questions I think the press should be asking. Since the sheriff is going on a witch hunt to cast blame somewhere else.

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    • richauthor
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:58pm

      One must understand that liberal parents tend to allow their children even more liberties than they enjoyed as children. This includes practically ignoring anything that a conservative parent might see as desperately wong behavior. Liberal parents tend to be more tolerant of what most of would call abberant behavior. I suspect they seldom, if ever, disciplined (not corporal punishment, but genuine discipline aimed to correct bad behavior) their son. We must not fault the Loughners per se, but merely see them as simply as misguided as the rest of all the other liberals.

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    • Ironmaan
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:16pm

      Richauthor, don’t discount the possibility that he is simply a mental defective, in which case their only fault is copulating. http://guerillatics.com

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    • OlefromMN
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:21pm

      @richauthor,

      I like the way you handled that. The liberal household is hard to understand. I was not raised in one so I did not even think of that aspect.

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    • Independent Tess
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:25pm

      Despite good upbringing I have seen several children who go down the wrong road. When they are adults they bear the responsibility for their own decisions.
      How horrific it must be to be his parents.

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    • Rogue
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 7:41pm

      @ Nothing – exactly right. Someone needs to be asking the local police what kind of info they had on this kid. Seems like the sherriff is going out of his way to find blame elsewhere, when local authorities are the first line of defense(besides parents who may or may not have been able to act) against someone like this who was obviously unstable for quite some time. I’m also curious to see if the community college he attended contacted local authorities or the parents when he was scaring the crap out of other students and faculty.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 8:02pm

      ita hard not to see the parents responsiblity in this…how about the shrine to satan in THEIR backyard…..how about getting kicked out of college…how about the outburst of laughing at nothing…I’m sure he did these things at home as well as at school and in public…have to kind of agree with the poster that mentioned libral parents…I know quite a few of them and that is the way they are…let underage drinking at home…as lond as their at home…let them run with their friends(and not checking out these friends)…I know this man was 22 but he was still living at home, so parents should of known…

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    • Reagan/DeMint.disciple
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 9:11pm

      @ IRONMAN , Really ? On his own ? Not according to liberals according to them you can stay on your parents health insurance until 26 rendering him still a child… Besides he lived under their roof and you know the ole saying ,right ?

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    • 101
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 9:25pm

      o Shooters mother works for Pima county—Sheriff Dupnik knew this.
      ..Sheriff Dupnik’s Culpability
      by Bill Hennessy on January 10, 2011 • ….According to an internal Department of Homeland Security memo, Jarod Lee Loughner’s mother “works for Pima County Board of Supervisors.”
      In the memo, obtained by Fox News and posted on Greta Van Susteren’s blog, the DHS agent openly speculates about undue internal influence. That’s because Loughner’s arrests don’t all end with reasonable closure, if you will.

      Here’s exactly what the DHS report says:
      suspect’s mother works for the Pima County Board of Supervisors* the suspect has multiple arrests … But no criminal record? Intervention by someone?
      It’s not unreasonable to assume that that “someone” is Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik.
      On Saturday evening, Dupnik took to the airwaves to create a sensation. He accused the people of Arizona, talk radio, Sharon Angle, Sarah Palin, and the tea party of complicity in murder, effectively. The sheriff did so without evidence.
      If Dupnik was involved in springing Loughner after one of the murderer’s many arrests, then Dupnik had strong motive to manufacture a bogeyman. If Dupnik helped keep Loughner stay out of the state psych system, then his motive doubles. There’s mounting evidence that Dupnik is guilty of both.
      We already know that Dupnik refused to uphold Arizona’s SB1070. We already know that he holds the people of Arizona in the highest contempt. A law enforcement officer who despises the people he’s sworn to protect and who refuses to enforce the law he’s sworn to uphold is unfit for office.
      If I were Arizona’s Attorney General, I’d be asking putting together a case for some warrants.

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    • mrclean
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 9:59pm

      @101

      Very interesting…..

      Is it possible to bring your points to the AZ state attorney general ? Email?

      Your investigation sounds like a “cya” scramble with the good sheriff…

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    • 101
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 10:21pm

      Do your own background check on… Jarod Loughner
      Public Access Court Info:
      http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/

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    • finwe
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:06am

      @ MOSSBRAIN

      It would be really easy to lay this on the parents and say they must have had something to do with it. You and people who think like you need to wake up and realize it’s a societal problem. I have never known a more violent January than this one…it seems to be getting worse all the time. It’s time to realize our media is to blame. I’d bet that this guy was obsessed with violent movies and violent video games. People like to bury their head in the sand and say that sort of violence doesn’t affect people. Which generation is coming out to be the generation of mass shootings? The one that grew up on video games.

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 12:17am

      I feel manipulated.
      I am already sick seeing his mugshot, it‘s like staring at ole’ nick.
      The sherriffs subterfuge and diatribe should be scrutinized.
      I have hardly heard about the other victims, the 9year old’s story touches my heart.
      This event is dominating everything in the news, the world hasn’t stopped, the Progs
      are still engaged. What is the other hand doing ?
      We are still neck deep in debt and unemployment, and the firestorm is about rhetoric..
      It can’t be THAT slow of a news week.. snow in 49 states, fuel skyrocketing
      have we become unhinged, is this, or the level of noise around it , the signal event ?
      Maybe it’s me, but there must be other stuff going on in our world/country we’re not hearing about.
      It’s one thing to follow this as events unfold, but quite another when all the news is this or fiddy cent making a bandit tweet ? WTF ?!

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:14am

      For whatever it’s worth…I have a good friend who lives in Tucson…she is good friends with someone who knows this family personally…according to her, the mother is very “mousy” and the father is extremely “dominating”…I’m not trying to say that it is “their” fault…he is an “adult”…however, you can not build a strong, enduring structure if it is built on sinking sand…

      And…who knows what kind of drugs this guy has taken…bet he was thrilled to be living in Tucson where he could keep a steady flow of any elicit drug he wanted or “needed”…But, given the economic crunch we are all suffering, is it possible that he was NOW unable to pay for drugs that he’s taken in the past…drugs which in better times have kept him from going over the edge? We’ll probably never know…Read the book, “One Second After”…paints an appealing theory that druggies will be the first to come unglued and commit violence when the economy fails and they can’t get their fix! Scary!

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    • CatB
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 1:49am

      Can you say cover-up .. I think the Sheriff doth protest too much…..

      http://hennessysview.com/2011/01/10/sheriff-dupniks-culpability/#

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 4:01am

      Finwe…maybe parents should start parenting and keep all that violent stuff out of their kid’s hands…and maybe…just maybe turn off the tv….have to agree with some posters though about the drugs…I think it was more than just pot…

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 5:18am

      Shizophrenia is a desease that manifests itself at a certain age and then never goes away. It can start at most any age up to mid twenties or older. The person is typically normal until then. Most people, as we can clearly see by the media hype, do not have a clue about schizophrenia. 1% of the population has this desease. All schizophrenics are not homicidal maniacs but all DO start acting weird at some age. This family is lawyered up, is familiar with the criminal system, and we will probably never know the real story here. But I accept their statement that they are sincerely sorry for this event and feel sympathy for the victims. Before the early sixties and before the ACLU, parents could get help for their children with this desease. Now they cannot. The parents cannot force the schizophrenic to go to the doctor, hospital, or even take their medicine when they become adults. The schizo will normally be hostile to the idea of admitting that they have schizophrenia and will resist any treatment. My opinion is that schizo’s should be locked up (at their families request and subject to the courts decision) in a decent sanitarium as long as they show symptoms, even if they take their medicine, but our laws will not allow this unless they seriously harm somebody, as this creepy killer did. At the very least they should be barred from buying weapons. This is a perfect example of how government has failed us. The federal government has never done anthing helpful but many states do have dedicated people trying to work within the framework of current ill-advised laws and court decisions regarding mentally ill people but with current bad federal law, the public is not protected from this terrible menace to public safety.

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    • Spark
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 7:58am

      Meet the ostriches.

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    • finwe
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 10:05am

      @ GodlovinMom

      I completely agree, but placing all the blame on them is ludicrous. As is believing parents of a 22 year old can control his media intake at that age. Maybe you need to develop a little more compassion for these people instead of judging them with crap you don’t know.

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    • nothingbuthetruth
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 10:05am

      Polwatcher has a point. If the government had not stood in the way of these parents to get their son some help, perhaps none of this would have ever happened. One more thing. This sheriff Dupnik, if there was a paper trail with arrests or some kind of notification that this young man had a mental inllness and was put on a list not to buy a fire arm, then the law on the books would have worked. AZ attorney general please investigate the sheriffs roll in all of this and his possible lack of enforcing the law. The elected lawman Dupnick already said he would not enforce AZ immigration mirrored federal law. 50 years of this, how many other things did he not do?

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on January 12, 2011 at 2:57pm

      I have compassion for these parents…I have children that are 24…23…20…and they don’t live with me…BUT…too many of our children are not being taught right from wrong…with the tv…with video games…etc…AND if you don’t bring that crap in your house…like I do…that would help..you know parenting…having said that…there is no guarantee that my children won’t mess up…but if they did mess up this bad…I think I would of seen warning signs…and do all that I can to help them…thats all I was saying…my prayers are also with this mans parents…

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