‘We Are the Real Muslims’: Recap of the Rally Held in Support of NYPD Monitoring Program
- Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:13am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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NEW YORK (The Blaze/AP) — Qazi Qayyoom, an imam in Queens, says he believes the New York Police Department is keeping his community safe, and if that means some Muslims are monitored, so be it.
“The police, they come to us and say, `Is everything OK? How can we help you?” he said Monday. “They are not trying to hurt us. For this, I want to say thank you and tell them I support them.”
Qayyoom and about three dozen other people on Monday attended the first rally held by Muslims in support of the NYPD following a series of Associated Press stories detailing the police department’s secret surveillance of mosques, Muslim-owned businesses and college campuses across the Northeast since Muslim extremists attacked the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, killing thousands of people.
The rally, held by the American Islamic Leadership Coalition outside police headquarters in downtown Manhattan, illustrated a division even among the faith‘s adherents about how far authorities should go in seeking to protect the nation’s largest city from terrorists. Other Muslim groups were quick to say the coalition didn’t represent their views.
Among the speakers was Dr. Zudhi Jasser, the narrator of “The Third Jihad,” a documentary about the dangers of radical Islam that the NYPD showed in the lobby of a police training area and has since disavowed.
“We are not here to criticize the NYPD but rather thank them for monitoring extremists, a job that Muslims should be doing,” Jasser said.
Zuhdi Jasser speaks during a news conference in front of police headquarters in New York, Monday, March 5, 2012. (AP)
Jasser and others, including activist Manda Zand Ervin, said that the danger is clearly coming from within the Muslim community and that it’s up to other Muslims to help law enforcement stop the threat. They said Muslims do not want to give up civil rights and are behind transparency in police work but it is wrong to suggest that all Muslims are somehow afraid of the NYPD, the nation’s biggest police department.
“In no way do we want to be spied on,” Jasser said. “But this is not about spying. This is about monitoring and public programs.”
The NYPD didn’t comment Monday. Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly has said he is doing everything within the law to protect the city from another terrorist attack. The department is bound under federal guidelines, known the Handschu guidelines, on how it can do certain investigations, and Kelly said the department’s efforts follow them.
“Anyone who intimates that it is unlawful for the police department to search online, visit public places or map neighborhoods has either not read, misunderstood or intentionally obfuscated the meaning of the Handschu guidelines,” Kelly said at a weekend breakfast.
Kelly planned to meet with Muslim leaders on Tuesday, said Sheik Moussa Drammeh, who received an invitation by phone. Drammeh, founder of the Islamic Leadership School in the Bronx, said he wasn’t sure what the meeting would be about.
Omar T. Mohammedi, president of the Association of Muslim American Lawyers and a non-salaried commissioner on the city’s Commission on Human Rights, said he was invited to the meeting but decided not to go.
Mohammedi, who was not speaking on behalf of the commission, said he did not know the meeting’s agenda or purpose.
U.S. Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, speaks at a news conference in front of police headquarters in New York, Monday, March 5, 2012. (AP)
Several other Muslim leaders were invited, but it was unclear how many would attend. The police department on Monday didn’t comment on the meeting.
The police department has been criticized by many civil rights groups and politicians who say its surveillance efforts go too far. Several other rallies have been held in the past months by other Muslim groups that drew hundreds of people to protest the NYPD’s tactics. Each side says it’s not being accurately represented by the other.
Critics of Monday’s rally pointed out that there were few people in attendance and that “The Third Jihad” had been described even by city officials as “over the top.” But Jasser has defended the video to The Blaze in the past, saying it is not a film about Islam, but rather “radical Islam.”
“The few misguided individuals that showed up in support of the NYPD today do not speak on behalf of Muslim communities,” said Amna Akbar, a lawyer with the City University of New York School of Law’s Creating Law Enforcement Accountability & Responsibility program. “Through know your rights workshops, rallies at Foley Square and Wall Street and calls for federal, state and city investigations, Muslim communities have been loud and clear that the NYPD’s surveillance policies are unwarranted, dangerous and divisive.”
Linda Sarsour, a member of the Muslim American Civil Liberties Coalition, said she objected to the idea held by some speakers Monday that Muslims opposed to police surveillance were “radical.”
“Muslim Americans are simply saying we’re concerned, we’re asking questions of our government, our law enforcement, and now we’re being labeled as radical Islamists,” she said. “We’re simply exercising our rights.”
Far uptown from police headquarters, a line of yellow cabs was parked outside the Islamic Cultural Center of New York, where many of the men who stopped to pray Monday were taxi drivers. Janitor Yasin Mansoer said the NYPD surveillance of Muslims is “terrible.”
“It’s totally wrong,” he said. “I know there’s a security situation in this country, but you can’t suspect everybody.”
Some politicians have lauded the police department’s efforts, while others have demonized them. U.S. Rep. Peter King, chairman of the Homeland Security Committee and a resolute supporter of the NYPD, said the NYPD deserved a medal and other police departments should mimic its counterterror efforts.
“No one is doing more to stop terrorism than the NYPD,” said King, R-N.Y. “It’s the job of the police department not to pick up the bodies after the attack has been launched and carried out but to stop those attacks from happening.”
The NYPD‘s efforts included operations in New Jersey’s largest city, Newark, where Democratic Mayor Cory Booker and his police director last month said the NYPD misled them, telling them only that it was going into the city as part of a terrorism investigation, not that their entire Muslim community was under scrutiny. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican, has lambasted NYPD officials as being arrogant and unwilling to work with other law enforcement groups.
When asked about the criticism by Christie, King said he thought the problem could be resolved easily.
“All of us should be on the same team,” King said. “In virtually every instance, Commissioner Kelly had provided full information to New Jersey. I think this is a matter that can be resolved.”
Christie said King was just defending his “buddy,” the police commissioner.
“Someone should ask Congressman King if he opposes law enforcement agencies coordinating with each other,” Christie said.
King also criticized media reports, saying the AP and The New York Times were slanderous and failed to show both sides of the issue.
The AP said it was “proud” of its coverage of the NYPD spying story.
“The AP’s job is to provide information so that the public can judge its value and respond accordingly,” AP spokesman Paul Colford said. “That is how a democracy works.”
The Times didn’t comment.
At Monday’s rally in support of the NYPD, some people said they went to show there are many faces to the Muslim community. Mohammed Hai, a business owner from Long Island, said he wants everyone to know that the extremists don’t represent all Muslims.
“We are the real Muslims,” he said. “We are peaceful people.”
Qayyoom, who’s from Bangladesh, said his friends and relatives aren‘t bothered by the NYPD’s tactics, especially because they were used to much worse in their native countries.
“What we experience here,” he said, “is freedom.”
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Associated Press writers Karen Matthews and Tom McElroy in New York and Beth DeFalco in Trenton, N.J., contributed to this report.
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mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:12am“Qazi Qayyoom, an imam in Queens”
Remember, under Sharia law, your local Imam is the judge and he doesn’t even need to have a formal education. You want this clown judging you?
Report Post »budzy1911
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:06amMike – don’t we have that now? Ever see the dolts that think the Bill of Rights is outdated and they know better?
BTW – full agreement on islam – it is a cancer on the planet. Countries and people, where ever it goes and what ever it touches dies under the vail of hatred and the false profit mohammed.
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:19pmGuys, THESE are the Muslims we’ve been looking for who speak out against the atrocities committed in the name of their religion. They rarely make it into the media but I’ve been loosely following Dr. Jasser’s site http://www.aifdemocracy.org/ for a while now and I believe he is for real.
Report Post »I often have harsh words about Islam myself, but I respect the constitution even more than I despise Muslim terrorists. Free religion is protected for good reason and I believe we should do what we can to assist these people. Dr. Jasser espouses Islam as a religion, NOT a political system, he opposes Sharia in America and the media hates him for it.
Islam is not going anywhere folks, and I trust in the constitution and the men who wrote it. This is the Islam we may be able to coexist with and I believe we should do what we can to help these men get their message out.
BSdetector
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:30pmTo clarify my statement a little:
Report Post »The left often uses the argument that the Bible says many similar things as the Koran/Hadith in terms of dealing with your enemies, etc. The difference is Christians/Jews tend to be a more moral people and don’t carry out the more barbaric things included in their book. I believe these men may, MAY be our Muslim counterparts. I am naturally leery due to the lessons of history, but… I don’t know, I just see an possibility in people like this to turn Islam(back?) into a religion instead of a political system of oppression.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 1:14pmBsdectector,
Report Post »The difference is the new testament ,the Old Testament was more barbaric and spoke of God’s wrath,the New Testament spoke of his compassion and forgiveness through his son Jesus Christ. God’s son showed his father the true meaning forgiveness as he forgave those who nailed him to the cross surely his father could find forgiveness as well.
QU‘RAN goes in reverse starting with forgiveness and love in it early teaching ending with death and intolerence in it’s later passages.
mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:11am““What we experience here,” [Qayyoom] said, “is freedom.”
“…to engage in violent Jihad.” he added under his breath.
Report Post »dheard
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 5:53pm/Ignore Mike_Triv, he’s a troll or a lib posing as a conservative and acting out his views of conservatives as hateful, bigoted idiots when there are plenty of those on both sides of the political spectrum with more in between. Islam has plenty of peaceful and good adherents and I know many of them so lumping an entire population into the “terrorist” plot is about as dumb as you can get. Mike, do yourself a favor and be a productive member of society instead of a drain on your parents and develop some self respect.
Report Post »Bikkiboo
Posted on March 7, 2012 at 10:17pmI think Jasser’s group is sincere. I’ve seen him on Glenn and Shawn arguing with the more radical Islamists. He seems to be a Muslim who is not afraid to speak out against the jihadists.
Report Post »For info on Islam, read ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey, THE BLOOD OF LAMBS by Kaleel Saleem, and A GOD WHO HATES, by Wafa Sultan. They’re fast reads with lots of eye-opening information.
ReallNews
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:10amI’m American, Muslim, and Conservative. Equating the entire religion of Islam to evil because of radicals and extremists is the same as condemning Christianity due to the Inquisition, child abuse etc. Acts of atrocity that have been committed in the “Name of God” have been conducted by individuals from every country, culture, and religion.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:20amApostate.
Stop bowing to the black rock from space enshrined in Mecca.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:34amReallNews claims to be Muslim, not former Muslim. How is that apostasy?
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:38amHe should apostate and leave Islam not trumpet his adherence to an enemy of Western Civilization.
Report Post »HairRazor
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:20am1% of the population.. 80% of the terrorist arrests.. they (nypd) would be foolish not to keep a close eye on Islamic folk.. only practical. Our hope is that you, being in America, discover Jesus Christ as your personal savior and turn away from the misleading distractions of the Quran. Although, as a Christian, you may find great persecution (from non-believers.. or infidels, if you will). Jesus offers forgiveness of sins and eternal life. Eternity will be glorius.. no pain.. no tears.. only greatful joy.. without ceasing.. never weary.. Tell your family too so they also can be part of the body of Christ with you. call 800-730-2537 and ask how you can come to know Christ.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 10:30amYou mean “he should apostasize.” Sorry I misunderstood you.
Report Post »Mr.Fitnah
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:04amIslam the way Mohammad did it is,murder,lies, intimidation, rape, theft and terror. Traditional Islam.
Report Post »Lying really helps, it is an act of piety to achieve global sharia.
quiltgal
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:53amLying has become so acceptable lately. Even our President does it–not just little white lies, but big lies to whole nations of people. Is that the Muslim in Obama? Don’t Muslims believe that the ends justify the means and that lying is permitted to further their religious ambitions? Or is that the Christian part of Obama telling us the Ten Commandments need to be “updated” along with the U.S. Constitution?
I’m inclined to believe Dr. Judhi Yasser is sincere though. I have heard him speak before and I do believe some Muslims want to repudiate the terrorist element in their community. Otherwise, why would they support the NYPD’s surveillance efforts? However, the handful of people at this rally is not enough to ease America’s fear of Muslims. Many more Muslims will need to speak out against the elements of their faith that produce terrorists. It is a question of trust. And after 9/11 and a series of other terrorist incidents by Muslims, trust will not be easy to restore.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:16amZuhdi Jasser engages in a form of Jihad more acceptable to the Western palate. He says all the right things in all the right ways such that the non-muslims are lulled into believing what they know in their heart to be deception.
In the end, he is a devout muslim. It is the goal of his religion and his fellow adherents to see Islam ascend over America and all the planet.
Do not listen to his lies.
Report Post »anOpinion
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:44amZuhdi Jasser is a brave guy, I just hope he inspires more in his community to stand up against the extremists.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:41amHis only goal is to establish a truce, or hudna, so that his fellow adherents have the time they need to regroup, form new lines of communications, and establish links with the many new mosques around the nation.
Report Post »00gabooga
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:42amI’d be terrified if I were him, he’s risking being labeled as an infidel by the “Religion of Peace.”
I got tomorrow’s New York Post right here, the headline says “Qazi Qayyoom Kaboom!! Imam Blown Up By Fellow Muslims”
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:28amHe is a leader of the Jihad and an expert in establishing hudna so that his fellow adherents can regroup, retrench, and re-arm while he quiets the non-muslims down, gets them to swallow his lies, gets them to believe he believes as they do.
Then the jihad is re-launched.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:38amI have no doubt that there are some Muslims that would rather just live peacefully, especially here in the U.S. where all religeons have been accepted. Unfortunately their voices have been silent so long as so much evil has been done in the name of Islam that I have a hard time trusting any of them.
Also I wonder where their allegience will lie when the inevitable war with Islam comes to America’s streets.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:33am“I have no doubt that there are some Muslims that would rather just live peacefully, especially here in the U.S. where all religeons have been accepted….”
If they truly wanted a peaceful existence, they would apostate and leave Islam. Islam is spread through violence and deception.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:32amsorry–off topic– hot news– DRUDGE REPORTS: wikileaked: OSAMA BIN LADEN NOT BURIED AT SEA
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:28amJasser is an outspoken supporter of Israel who believes that Muslim organizations and leaders need to be held to a litmus test to see whether they recognize Israel as a state, specifically condemn groups such as Hamas and Al Qaeda, and governments such as the Saudi and Syrian dictatorships. “If they don’t … then you have to wonder where their allegiances are.”
Report Post »TyrannyNoMore
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:43amIslam’s Latest Contributions to Peace
“Mohammed is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another” Quran 48:29
2012.03.05 (Haditha, Iraq) – Twenty-seven Iraqi police are massacred by al-Qaeda in a series of attacks.
Report Post »2012.03.05 (Narathiwat, Thailand) – Muslim terrorists detonate a bomb at a market, killing a 37-year-old boat driver.
2012.03.04 (Maiduguri, Nigeria) – Islamists shoot a middle-aged woman and her 10-year-old daughter to death in their home.
2012.03.04 (Gamborou, Nigeria) – A tailor and trader are executed in cold blood by Boko Haram gunmen.
2012.03.04 (Zinjibar, Yemen) – A surprise attack by al-Qaeda on a local security base leaves over eighty defenders dead.
2012.03.04 (Zinjibar, Yemen) – A al-Qaeda suicide bomber sends fifteen other souls to Allah.
dmerwin
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 12:18pmTyrannyNoMore
Report Post »Good research please keep posting these.
B-Neil
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:23amDon’t sit with your back to the door. GOD BLESS AMERICA and INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:22ammuslim = terrorist
Report Post »LouC57
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:20amSorry. I’d like to believe these people, I don’t. And I don‘t give a rats behind if they’re profiled, spied on, or harassed.
Ask yourself why this happened in 2012 instead of 2001???
Report Post »TyrannyNoMore
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:41amIt is happening now, because the muslims are acutely aware of a change of attitude in this country towards them. It took ten years, but Americans have finally woken up to what islam really is, a totalitarian, satanic, political cult, posing as a legitimate religion.
Report Post »Arc
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:07amNOTICE:……To all law abiding citizens of the United States. It has come to the attention of the Attorney General’s office that you desire to be protected from criminals, scam artist’s and enemies of the US government. While it is our desire to fulfill our obligation to the peace and tranquility of this great nation, you must be informed that;
#1. If you value your individual freedom MORE than the rights of ALL citizens, the law enforcement agencies will no longer respond to riots( involving more than ONE (1) person, accidents involving more than one ( 1 ) vehicle with 2 occupants, crimes where there are multiple subjects or multiple victims.
#2. Should you individually call for assistance and are aided by others at the scene before the law enforcement personnel arrive, your problem will not be addressed until you are alone. While we regret we will be unable to assist multiple people, rest assured we will standby until the area is cleared, then we will attend to YOUR problem.
#3. In the event you feel this police practice is not in your best interest, we direct your attention to the US Constitution, where you will find an amendment, dated Mar 6, 2012, that, by individual computer voting, rescinded that portion previously referred to as ….” We hold these truths to be self evident that ALL men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”
Need Help, ca
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:06amAgain if you put something in front of America such as but not limited to- Muslim Americans, African American – Jewish American – You are not a American you are stating to all that you are- a Muslim, African or a Jew.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:06amMore lies and deception of the muslim community.
This is all a form of hudna. The muslims know we are on to their lies and deceptions. So they seek a truce. A time in which to calm the American herd, to allow churning guts of America to settle, and time for the muslims to regroup and relaunch their Jihad.
It is all deception. Islam is an alien culture totally incompatible with Western Civilization. Anyone who entertains notions of “coexistence” or “living side-by-side” with muslims is a fool and a tool of Jihad.
Report Post »TyrannyNoMore
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:48amWere all Americans as awake as you are my friend, we would win this war in weeks instead of years !
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:49amReading some of the comments here leads me to think we have a long way to go before American truly understand the threat posed by Islamic Culture.
To many continue to apply to the muslims Western characteristics. It is a dangerous form of self-deception.
Report Post »Susie
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:01amWhat the H….. is the matter with everyone? When are the gloves going to come off with these people and when are we going to stop treating Islam like it’s entitled to preferential treatment. It is well known that the mosque is the cooking pot of radicalism. How many studies, books and/or law enforcement reports have to tell us this before someone in government wakes up and takes it seriously.
Report Post »Geesh ! I guess Gump was right – “stupid is a stupid does.”
SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:41am.
If the doctor said you have QaziQayyoom what part of the body would be affected?…….
It kinda sounds like something you’d catch on a wild night in Cario……
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:39am.
We’re the Good Muslims, yeah right…………….
Bring us the heads of all the Bad Muslims, and then we can talk……
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:36amThe problem for me is this. I have studied the Koran and the Muslim religion for any years. Their belief system allows for lies if it furthurs the Muslim faith. These Muslims you see as “on our side” could be just paving the way for their faith to take over in the long run.
Report Post »You had fair warning.
Believe me, they will kill the Infidel in the end.
All of them.
SamIamTwo
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:36amSounds nice, but like my old man told me…never trust a turk, now coming to mean the Muslims…they lie to further their agenda and they can sound as sane and polite as you or I but when push comes to shove they will stand together, as a collective, under their Sharia Law. JIMHO
It will take a long time to make me a believer…as my old man told this to me in the 50′s…he was a WWII vet and served over there after Hitler was stopped.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:42amExactly right. A folower of the Muslim faith that is not radicalized is not really following what the faith teaches. But they learn….and then they become a ticking time bomb.
Report Post »AMENDMENT
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:54amThis is why the current administration loves Al Jazeera, the Brotherhood and Islamic states like Iran, they lie as good as any Koran following Muslim http://rt.com/news/osama-body-wikileaks-stratfor-949/
Report Post »Ron Staiger
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:36amYeah, they‘re the real muslims and that’s why they were pathetically represented. The “REAL” muslims are the ones who were NOT there!
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:00amI’m in the middle of a book by Dr. Richard booker – “Radical Islam’s War Against Israel, Christianity, and the West”.
Report Post »It discusses the roots of islam. The reality is the “good” muslims have not yet brgun to follow the faith as written. At some point people will realize the “radical” element is VASTLY under reported and underestimated. Add it to your “must read” list.
Gonzo
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:29amZuhdi Jasser is a good man. I would stand with him any day.
Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:54amI agree and me too. Glenn and him are good friends.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:10amGood Muslims need to keep their eyes and ears open for threats, and report them, just like good American should. Hopefully this rally will open the door for more people to speak out instead of hiding in fear. While I understand the apprehension and doubt mentioned above, the dialogue needs to begin somewhere.
Report Post »ExpertShot
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 8:56amI agree Gonzo, Dr. Jasser is a good man, one of the few who is trying to stand up to radical islam.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:07amHe is a muslim, a devout muslim. He seeks to see Islam ascend over all the planet.
The sweetest lies are the easiest to swallow.
And this is how the Jihad starts. With the sweet, “peaceful” muslims who just want to engage in the non-violent practice of their faith. A faith and form of social control that seeks the destruction and replacement of every non-muslim nation on the planet.
Were he serious, he would apostate and encourage other muslims to leave the House of Islam.
Report Post »bunnyma5
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:12amThank you, Dr. Jasser…..I have always found you to be reasonable, sane, willing to discuss the pitfalls of radical Islam…..
Report Post »Silver Lining
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 11:01amGod bless and protect Dr. Jasser.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:29amAny bets on – Did Qazi Qayyoom get a call from Eric Holder passing on the message from obama – that he needs their help on this?
Report Post »drago
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 7:28amSounds like the cops are “protecting” the *******,not keeping an eye on their activities.If im a NY cop, and was told to handle ******* with kit gloves,i’d find another job somewhere else….
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