We Never Occupied Mexico: Beck Schools Eva Longoria on Her Mexican History
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You might have caught actress Eva Longoria‘s recent appearance on Bill Maher’s “Real Time” in which she claimed that Hispanics would not be moved to vote for Mitt Romney simply because he might tap Marco Rubio to be his vice president. The mere thought of it would be, as she put it, “insulting.” After all, she claims that Mexico was “occupied” by the United States.
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“And the idiots in the Bill Maher audience ate it up,” Beck said on his Tuesday evening broadcast before launching into one of the most concise rundowns of Mexican history to date. In fact, as a Mexican-American, it seems inconceivable Longoria didn’t know her own history as well as Beck does.
As it turns out, the Spaniards occupied Mexico for some 300 years and even the word Hispanic was one employed by the Romans when they occupied what now is Spain. So, the Spanish language that is spoken across Latin America is a result of Spanish occupation. Likewise, it was Spain that occupied Mexico for hundreds of years.
in 1846 the Mexican-American war began in the wake of the 1845 U.S. annexation of Texas. Mexico considered Texas part of its territory despite the Texas Revolution nearly a decade prior. Mexico never acknowledged Texas’ independence.
Ultimately, the Americans won the war with Mexico but on February 2 ,1848, the two countries signed the Treaty of Guadalupe which stated that U.S. troops would withdraw from Mexico, including Mexico City and take ownership of the Southwestern United States. What’s more, Beck pointed out that the U.S. agreed to buy the land from Mexico for $15 million, even though it was won squarely in victory and there was no obligation to do so. Not at any time did the United States occupy nor rule Mexico. The United States did not subject Mexicans to our form of government nor did it leave troops stationed in the country.
Beck continues with the real history of Latinos in America, below.
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Comments (431)
Ron_WA
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:29pmGlenn, yeah, we did occupy Mexico a multiple times in various times between 1830s & 1920s.
There is plenty of room to argue whether some of these events were simply invasions, incursions, or occupations. The questions of whether, for example a land is invaded, occupied, annexed, or conquered varies on one’s perspective.
In any case the govt. of the USA either invaded, occupied, annexed, or conquered what is present several time in the mid 1850s thru early 1900’s. – nothing wrong w/ that …
And in the end we paid Mexico for the land we won in war (Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, as well as parts of Nevada & Colorado) – some call it buying the land we conquered, some call it compensation, some call it reparations – I call it compensation – kinda’ a nice thing which we didn’t need to do.
Report Post »Community Agitator in Chief
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 3:22pmRon, have you stopped to consider how the Aztecs feel about the Mexican Spaniards calling Mexico theirs? I am sure they are still not overly thrilled with the “welcoming parties” of conquistadors that devastated the Aztec empire.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 5:46pmIf in 1846-8 one Mexican army had crossed the Rio Grande and marched eastward into Tennesee, while another landed at the mouth of the Potomac and fought its way into Washington DC, to raise Mexico’s flag over the Capitol, and if at the same time a treaty had been “negotiated,” even with a $15 milion sweetener, depriving the US of the former Louisiana Purchase plus Florida–you would have a situation analogous to what the US inflicted on Mexico. Call it annexation, occupation, whatever you want: Americans would still feel aggrieved, even after 160 years.
Report Post »mominoc
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:39pmSpaniards…did invade Mexico and raped and pillaged the Indians during the war……thus created the “Mexican” nationality. That is why the Spanish think Mexicans are dirty. It’s true.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:03pmI’m willing to give California back to the Aliens and will try my best to keep Ripley from coming back.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:30amI would have simply pointed out that she and all the hispanics on this side of the border should thank God Texas won it‘s independents because if they hadn’t the southwest of teh U.S. would be another third world nightmare. And if Mexico is so great why in the he77 do mexican risk their lives to come to America. Then invite her and all of her hollyweird cronies the opportunity to move to mexico and change their economy.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:46amThese BIMBOS need to stay out of Politics, I know it’s
Report Post »hard for THEM, with a “Rock Star” running the show..
Magnumcalib
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:47amEhh, separate it like north and south Carolina. I don’t mind northern california, it’s beautiful. I guess southern california is too if you fly over it with your eyes shut…
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:02amI see Bill has stooped so low as to have an ungrateful ignorant pros*I*Ute on his show.
Report Post »Get he pick her up in a border town? I didn’t see this show as I have enjoyed not seeing any of them.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:50am“Hispanics are dislocated Spaniards, nothing more, nothing less… So if you don‘t like Mexicans you aren’t a racist, more like a nationalist. Let’s get out thinking right here!”
No. There are still a lot of Mexicans with indigenous ancestors in Mexico. Believe it or not, the natives don’ just disappear when they are colonized. Mexican natives interbred with Spanish colonizers for centuries–I would be willing to bet that there is comparatively little Spanish blood in today’s Hispanic people.
And clearly you have no understanding at all of the history of race. Hispanics have often been considered a distinct race, as have various Mediterranean peoples at different times (including Jews). Throughout the nineteenth century when the U.S. was fighting with Mexico over the border, Mexicans were absolutely considered a different race, as were the Chicano peoples who inhabited the Southwest before Americans got there.
Study up before you bother to comment.
Report Post »Southern Rebel
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:47amSo in their Hollywierd logic, by voting for NObama, who tapped the first ‘latina’ for the Supreme Court, she will ignore the alleged US occupation of Mexico. How does voting for the socialists remove her point of the US occupying her homeland? Maybe she ought to return to it.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:58amAll the Plastic these people put in their bodies usually has
Report Post »an effect on the brain eventually..Pelosi is a fine example..
ChiefGeorge
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:08amA lie can go half way around the world before truth can even tie its shoelaces.
The truth matters not to the Left! They are only interested in making others feel enraged or even good about themselves through lies and overinflated senses of self…the selfesteem movement of the 80s is what helped lead us here to this day! Don’t believe it? Self Esteem replaced Self control, accountability and responsibility. Its sister attribute called Authenticity was called upon to help hedge up this fight. One is not taught about the basic truths of human nature which made this country great, we are taught that only self interest and personal feelings matter the most. If your not being yourself, your not being authentic or real. Thus your contributing to the problems of the society because your not being honest about how you feel. So you must constantly display your feelings for all to see. In this way everyone can share your pain and misery and you don’t even have to try to make yourself have any control over how you feel because its simply alright with society that you cry out to everyone within ear shot. This has led to suicides and mass killings on an epic scale as self centeredness only leads to more of the same and misery that can never be consoled…thus everyone must feel what they feel even if that means commiting murder and mayhem. She speaks from a place of an overinflated sense of what she believes is her peoples plight. This is her lie to self and to us.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:09amThe Term Hispanic made its way into the Modern Lexicon in the early 1970s and IMO makes little sense. Not everyone in South America speaks Spanish, Brazil for instance speak Portuguese so it seems the only factor that defines Hispanic is Geography which as I said makes no sense for someone to refer to themselves as a Hispanic American when we don’t call ourselves European Americans. But lets get real and say the truth: Hispanic is an effort to create a new group for those that practice Group Politics, as a new group it becomes a center of gravity for Money and Power.
Report Post »TunaBlue
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:41am@PUBLIUSPENCILMAN
“I would be willing to bet that there is comparatively little Spanish blood in today’s Hispanic people.”
That’s what I believed, too. Recent genetic tests indicate that the average Mexican has about 73% Euro Spanish gene make up.
Report Post »donttreadonmeplease
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:46amPUBLIUSPENCILMAN said: “And clearly you have no understanding at all of the history of race. Hispanics have often been considered a distinct race, as have various Mediterranean peoples at different times (including Jews).”
Ummm….clearly it’s you who has “no understanding of the history of race,” PUBLIUS. FYI, the word race is a political and social word with no real scientific, genetic, biological, or taxonomic meaning:
>>> “While biologists sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in the scientific community suggest that the idea of race is often used [5] in a naive[6] or simplistic way. Among humans, race has no taxonomic significance; all living humans belong to the same hominid subspecies, **** sapiens sapiens.”
>>> “When people define and put about a particular conception of race, they create a social reality through which social categorization is achieved.[12] In this sense, races are said to be social constructs.[13] These constructs develop within various legal, economic, and sociopolitical contexts, and may be the effect, rather than the cause, of major social situations.”
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_classification)
Modern ideas of “race” come from…wait for it…RACIST ideologies and are mistaken for “phenotypes” which is simply the visual differences between groups of living things.
Acts 17:26 – “From one man he made all the nations…”
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:40pm@ johnjamison
Report Post »The mistake Polk made was giving Mexico back. If the US had kept it, those people would live in the United States, not a third world toilet. The best thing we could ever have done for the Mexican people would have been to incorporate Mexico into the US, Instead, they criticize the US for buying the southwest, and helping those people. Stupid is as stupid does.
PaxInVeritate
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:08pm@DONTTREADONMEPLEASE… Bravo! You beat me to it. It would do BLAZEBANNED some good to read up on it as well.
Report Post »MittensKittens
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:42pmWell, she is pretty to look at, not much else though…If she was ugly, she’d be on Obamafare…
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:54pmI believe race DOES exist. The reason there is no scientific classification is because polotics will not allow scientists to separate “humanity” into sub-groups. I sincerely believe science can separte us into 3 different races, but politics will not allow these results to be viewed by the public eye. It would totally screw up the whole melting pot idea the government has been jamming down out throats over the past hundred years.
“We are all the SAME you hateful person you!” LOL
Report Post »Doris Carman
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 2:04pmWhy would this lady think we occupied mexico and what difference would it make a hundred years later.
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 4:36pmCHIEF very well put SR. Progressives are not progressive but under the saddle
Report Post »They do their service in canada
bobbiejean
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:21pmSure, Truth, let Mexico take CA and also the SW which they rec’d monies for. But only if they will pay
Report Post »the same amount (in today’s dollars) to buy it back. Do you think the Dem’s would apply that toward
the reduction of the nation’s debt? Or do they want to spend it on more green energy projects?
spfoam1
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:56pmI live in Texas and have been around many Hispanics. When they run at the mouth about how bad the US is for “taking thier land”, I always ask them why they speak Spanish, and who raped and murdered thier way across South America. I call them a European invader who stole the land from the idiginous people of South America. I then accuse them of trying to spread north and steal more land. They always end up mad and confused.
Report Post »Cascadia
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 2:53amWhen did the First Lady say, “We will change our HISTORY, we will change our TRADITIONS”
Report Post »Was it before the 2008 election?
Who was not listening…
Be Proud, Not Loud. GOD BLESS AMERICA
lukerw
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 4:15amMs Evil should be mad…. at the Spainish… or Austrians (Emperor Maximilian) or the French (Military of Maximilian). But, no… in her perverted history… she is mad at the Americans… whom the Mexicans massacred at the Alamo!
Report Post »pscully17
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 5:22amNeed we remi.d the anti border control people, that the Indians didn’t have border control or legal immigration processes….and looked what happened…we came in and kicked their ass, stole their land and took over the whole country.
Report Post »Acegard
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 5:55amYou pedantic fools. Glenn Beck is blinded by his subconscious racism, and fails to see real history like the one he preaches here. The victor writes history, as we did after the Mexican American war. We wanted their land and used Texas as an excuse to invade. The US had the Mexican president (who was educated in the US) in their pocket, who betrayed his general Santa Ana by not sending reinforcements, no ammunition or food to the troops, left to get slaughtered. Then we say we “paid” for the whole western half of the US, HA! We MADE them sign it with our guns in their faces and called it a purchase to mask what it really was -theft. If there was nothing wrong with it and we just took the rightful spoils like beck says, then why didn’t we keep Iran? Or Japan? exactly. Facts are stubborn things, the truth always comes out in the end….
Report Post »aggiebrewer
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:26amAcegard:
“Facts are stubborn things, the truth always comes out in the end….”
Very true. If you actually research and look at the facts you will see that what Beck said was correct and what you are peddling is madness. Just because your liberal professor or CNN says it does not make it truth.
Report Post »JediPatriot
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:31am@ Acegard
Report Post »If what you say is true, then why didn’t we just keep ALL of the land that we took? Why give them back so much land?
While it is true that the victors write history, I think that in some cases, history may just be correct. In other, perhaps not so much.
Peace
Obama_Sham
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:55am@Acegard
Ya… I’m sure you know the “real” truth and everyone else is stupid for disagreeing with your OPINION… You speak of facts and then state your OPINION of the facts…
Good call, genius…
Report Post »Obama_Sham
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:56amDon’t care what anyone says… Eva Longoria is very easy on the eyes… Not to bright, though…
Report Post »EddardStark
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:04amSo if Mexico invaded the United States, defeated our military, captured Washington and forced our government to give up every bit of territory west of the Mississippi in exchange for leaving Washington, Beck would not consider the Western United States occupied territory? It would simply become part of Mexico because “it was won squarely in victory.” Once again Beck shows what a moron with an agenda can do with a few facts.
I‘m glad to see Beck’s imperial desires are laid bare in this little commentary. Apparently he approves of the United States taking what it wants from weaker countries. Perhaps Glenn will use one of those ridiculous oval office speeches to clarify his plan for global domination. Maybe we can start with the conquest and colonization of the Congo River Basin in order to capitalize on the lucrative ivory trade.
Report Post »Kenny_in_Indiana
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:30am@ Ed
Did we invade Mexico?
Report Post »EddardStark
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:39amYes, Kenny, we did. Even Beck included that the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed after the United States conquered Mexico City, the capital of Mexico, in his ludicrous rant.
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:39am@Aceguard — wake up buddy. It was no paltry sum of money they paid for that bit o’ Texas. Adjusted for time it comes to $346,823,835.00!
Silversmith
Report Post »EddardStark
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:58am@ silversmith
Your number looks impressive, a nice little rhetorical device there, but considering it was 525,000 square miles of territory that works out to 660 dollars per square mile or a little over a dollar an acre. Not to mention that it included California, in which gold was going to be discovered within twelve months.
I will gladly take any land you have at twice the price per acre the US government paid for the Mexican Cession and I won’t even break into your house and force you to sell at gun point.
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:27amYou would think that Longoria would know the history. She claims San Antonio as her home and was apparently raised and went to school there. Ask her about the Tejanos who died at the Alamo or were with Houston at San Jacinto.
I don’ know how they teach 1texas History now says but when I took it, all this was part of the ciriculum.
The Mexican war was fought over a part of Texas. Mexico wanted the border to be at the Nueces river and the US wanted it at the Rio Grande. AZ and NM were part of the reperations fof the war
OMG 2012
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:35amDOes Beck mention that the cause of the Texas/Mexican war was the fact that the Texans wanted to continue to keep their slaves and the Mexican government refused.
Report Post »BLACKDIAMONDSKIER
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:37am“But we should learn something else, that when you stand for the truth, when you don’t let anger force you into stupidity, eventually the ship will right itself. You just have to remain standing. The people attacking you with lies will be buried under their own weight. I believe in this. It has been true for all of eternity in the past and all eternity in the future.” – Glenn Beck
The Truth Has No Agenda – Glenn Beck
Report Post »zorro
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:38amI live in Texas. I’m “Hispanic”. And you apparently have never been around me. Stop surounding yourself with ignorant Mexicans.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:41amUh, we beat them in a war. A war they started! We shouldn’t have paid them a dime. If you love Mexico so much, please move to Juarez and let me know in 6 months (if you haven’t been kidnapped and killed) how that works out for ya. Mexico has turned into a 3rd world country. I feel bad for the Mexican people but just like with the Iraqis, it won’t change until the citizenry starts a revolution against the drug lords and corrupt officials and take their country back.
Report Post »SAS6907
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:45amTO Aceguard: Have you seen America? Then you know that the US is being invaded everyday by Mexicans.
Report Post »GWillie
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:38amAcegard
Report Post »Posted on May 16, 2012 at 5:55am
The People‘s History of the United States is not a very good source if you’re looking for the truth… And a quick question, if we had the Mexican leaders in our pocket why did we need to point our guns at them to get them to sign away the west coast?
kralspaces
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:48amWhat does David Barton say? He must have some letters from that time that explains what really happened.
Report Post »texasbeta
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:52amThis is moronic. Even the OWN ARTICLE states that the US withdrew their troops, bought the land, etc…I know you conservatives don’t like things like Dictionaries, but you obviously need to look up what occupation means. I swear, one can come to this website, read the stories and comments and think, “How did the entire amalgam of absolute idiots all gather together in one place.”
Report Post »TheRivuh
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:37amSecond
Report Post »Obama_Sham
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:22pm“I swear, one can come to this website, read the stories and comments and think, “How did the entire amalgam of absolute idiots all gather together in one place.””
Why are you talking about KoS on The Blaze?
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:35pm@Eddardstark — The number I quoted was just to put a little context into the figure paid. And speaking of rhetorical devices, your inclusion of undiscovered gold in your argument is as spurious as including the yet unrealized sinking of California into the sea as impacting the value of the land in 1845.
Sleep well
Silversmith
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 4:41pm@ZORRO personally we do not know you. But how can you ( an ignorant Mexican) surround anybody? We know your type baggy pants and reversed hat. How long have you been out of prison?
Report Post »mominoc
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:14pm@ACEGARD….LOL You need to go get yourself educated on the history. The Spaniards invaded Mexico initially and raped an pillaged the Indians. So your ignorant diatribe about stealing Japan or any other Country is ludicrous. Go get educated you brainwashed knucklehead and find out why the SW was necessary.
Report Post »RebelPatriot
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:49pmThey don’t want to go back to being ruled by Mexico, they want to come here and ruin what we have. There are those of Mexican descent that want to be free and work hard, they are welcomed to stay.
For those who just wish to live of the wealth of America, they can go back to Mexico and clean up their mess with the drug lords. Why don’t you return to Mexico and fight to free it from the Cartels, if you are so proud to be Mexican?
Report Post »SilentReader
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:38pmThanks for setting that straight, Glenn. These people are so ignorant about their own history that it’s pathetic.
By the way, the greatest of occupiers are the Islamists. Egypt was a Christian country. Lebanon was a Christian country. Syria was a Christian country. The Greater Serbian Empire aka Byzantine Empire, the former Yugoslavia now Serbia aka Raska aka the Greater Serbian Empire aka Byzantine, was a Christian country, until it was occupied by the Muslim Turks! Kosovo was a Province of Serbia until the Albanian KLA Muslim Mafia seized it, with the help of Clinton-EU-UN-NATO et al. Now Kosovo has been turning into a terrorist state, and so has the Islamist part of Bosnia! Iran aka Persia was a Christian nation as Babylon’s King Nebuchadnezzar was converted to Jesus Christ.
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/weblog/WebPosting.cfm?LogID=2496
Now, of course, the Islamists are taking over Africa and persecuting the Christians there! They’ve been doing that for decades. And they’ve been in India and have been persecuting the Hindus and Christians there for centuries.
The Islamists are the greatest of occupiers! And it’s the Islamists that the Left (Socialist, Marxists & Communists and the Nazis) ally themselves with!
Report Post »Elena2010
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:15amYou said: “Iran aka Persia was a Christian nation as Babylon’s King Nebuchadnezzar was converted to Jesus Christ.”
Actually, Persia was Zoroastrian not Christian. There is but a remnant of that religion left in Iran today. Most who refused to convert fled to India. It is the Indian religious texts that survive since the muslims destroyed all the Zoroastrian texts in Persia when they overran it.
There is no indication that Nebuchadnezzar was Christian; he was long dead before Jesus was born. The closest he comes to a Jewish worldview is after he goes mad for being such a pompous a$$. He acknowledged the fact the YHVH was God. However, nowhere in the Bible or extra Biblical sources does it say he gave up his own Mesopotamian gods for the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Mesopotamia is not to be confused w/Persia. Ethnically and linguistically they are quite different. Persian is Indo-European while ancient Assyro-Babylonian is another Semitic language as Hebrew, Aramaic, and Arabic are today. It is quite likely that Jesus would have understood the Aramaic of Nebuchadnezzar even though separated by several centuries. Hebrew in Jesus’s day was ceremonial rather than popular. In Roman Judea, Koine Greek was the lingua franca of the day.
Report Post »pitamoncha
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:44amGlen hit this out of the park. I have an MA in Spanish History, Culture and Language and the only little detail he left out was that General Santa Anna (that’s how he spelled it) was the one to suggest the selling of the land TO THE USA to help pay for the war ($15M).
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:18amExcellent post, SILENTREADER.
Sadly, Europe, Russia, Asia Minor, and China are seemingly blind to the Jihad being waged against them. Or they think to use the muslims as a weapon and shield behind which they wage war against America.
Report Post »OldVet
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:51amELENA2010
Report Post »I take exception to your inference that Jesus spoke Koine Greek. I’m sure you think this because of the misconception that the New Testament was first inscribed in Greek. Evidence points out that Aramaic was the primary language of Jerusalem and the likely original language of most of the New Testament.
Bryan B
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:35pmI remember the stories my Great-Grand Father would tell about being in the Army in 1915, and patroling American Border with Mexican.
If the Bandits would raid on the American side of the Border, the Army would go into Mexico to get them. If they caught them on the U.S. side of the Border, they hung them right there……
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:10pmBryan,
My grandfather (passed away in ‘41) was 1st Cav. down there. I would always ask my father how grandpa had a huge fishing lure with Mexico 19XX (I want to say 18) hanging over his workbench. That front was considered a big threat in WWI.
Fast forward to one of my favorite caps. I bought it in my favorite vacation destination. It has embroidered on the crown portion of the cap…”Cancun Mexico, Since 1972″. I wonder if Cancun is disturbed by us “occupying” their beaches and bringing our dollar with us? Glenn has the actual dates and times, we can provide the emotional, as the book writer was talking about near the end of Glenn’s radio show today.
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:40pmPerhaps Glenn could expand on his educating Eva and discuss José Doroteo Arango Arámbula.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:29amOLEFROMMN, Good point to mention Pancho Villa.
Report Post »Akridgerunner
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:29pmTo the victor go the spoils is right. In Texas and Arizona the ‘spoils’ will unfortunately go to whomever outbreeds everyone else. You get just one guess as to who that will be….
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:40amBRONZE well put, my hat is off to you. As a SRT (sons of the republic of Texas) form fathers side.& SAR sons of the American revolution, from mothers side. Why does everything have to be written in Spanish and English and we are occupied all the way to the Canadian border by millions that have no respect for immigration Laws? They only respect the laws they choose. As Americans we respect & follow all the laws or are punished. There is occupation and “ILLEGAL OCCUPATION” it must end. The line has been drawn in the sand years ago. Its time to choose which side you are on. Remember Goliad & the Alamo. God bless America
Report Post »zorro
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:45amWagons…you should like an idiot. Not all “hispanics” break the law, you chump. Some of us have been here as long as you have. Stop painting with a broad brush.
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 4:31pm@ZORRO I have proof of NY ancestry as far back as the 1700′s in Ireland, you can’t be a member of the sons of the American revolution and sons of the Texas revolution by just knowing who your mother is like your background & father unknown. The word should ought to be sounds. The word you used chump did you aim to say chimp as in your fathers name or was that prison talk. Please learn English before posting. Bet you can’t speak Spanish either. Mexicans have trouble with proper Spanish. Hispanic Chicano Mexican Spanish can you pick one and stay with it? Or just use one until you trash it and pick another. Baggy pants and a cap that faces in reverse. How is this for a narrow brush. Canada to the Rio Grande needs a wide brush to cover it all. The corps needs a few good men. Oops you re left out ‘again. I did my time @ major rank. Have a nice day.
Report Post »Bronze
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:21pmI am a fifth generation Texan and actually educated in history. In about the 12th century anno Domini (AD) the Aztecs invaded from what is now Arizona and conquered central México, where they established one of the most horrific and primitive reigns of blood-letting worship, female abuse, slave owning, sexual exploitation, and human skin-flaying ever observed in the history of humanity. So those whining about being invaded, first invaded others. The Spaniards, revolted to the core by their now widely demeaned religion, stopped all this and brought the country into the realm of civilized man. After México won her independence, she “ruled” Tejas for ONLY 15 YEARS AT MOST, and even during this time Mexicans shunned moving to Texas and refused to come. Texas revolted against a proven, genocidal maniac dictator who made up his own fake “marriage” laws to rape young women and who not only was dedicated to the ethnic genocidal cleansing of the Texans but also carried out similar acts against his own Native American citizens. After he legally granted the independence of Texas, México betrayed this and precipitated a war. At the conclusion, the U.S. withdrew from central México and gave substantial war reimbursement, an act almost unheard of in other countries at the time. Texans created Texas, and we will keep it.
Report Post »TheEDGE
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:20amEva wouldn’t make it past the 12th century part.
Report Post »idarusskie
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:34amThe Louisianan purchase had an unclear southern border. one claim gave the southern border as the rio grand river. a weak claim for sure but so were Mexico’s claim to much of the southwest because you also had to settle the land and not just walk through it. Now New Mexico had some settlement and one could say that that state was occupied. They had rebellions.
Report Post »MetalPatriot
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:49am@Bronze
Modern Latinos (the young ones) refuse this part of history. It’s not taught this way. There were never any “bad” Latinos/Hispanics/Aztecs/etc…only evil Euro-whites that stole land & killed innocents.
Enjoyed your post.
Report Post »Duey2000
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:37pmI would only add that the Americans who came to Texas renounced their US citizenship and legally had to register and become citizens of Mexico, taking an oath of citizenship in order to get the land that they were promised. Many of them were quite happy until Santa Anna began to change the laws and take away from the American born immigrants. When the Texans revolted though, it was people from American AND Mexico that revolted against Santa Anna and his armies. Santa Anna’s armies committed atrocities like “freeing” unarmed prisoners of war and then mowing them down in open fields. Then to have Mexico basically change it’s mind about Texas 10 years later. And now look at what is happening with illegal immigration. I guess it is in their nature to want what isn‘t theirs and to take it by force when their whining doesn’t work…
Report Post »yiska8
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:27pmBeing a native San Antonian and having mandatory Texas History courses in public schools did not help little Eva one bit. You can’t help the airheads of the world. She trashes the history every time she gets a chance by running her ignorant collagen infused mouth. The I guess she must hate Tejanos too for fighting with anglos for Texas freedom from Mexico. What is now Texas, was sustaining itself alone much like the colonists who came from England to create the colonies.The King taxed them without representation. Texas was forgotten by Mexico. It was so far north and impeded by violent Natives Indians that no one in Mexico City gave two *hits about what was going on in Northern Mexico (Texas)until the Tejanos, Alcades(mayors), militia, and Anglo settlers finally said, “You don’t want to pay attention to our troubles, then we’ll settle our troubles alone as we have been, and as free men. AsTexians.” And then the long march began for the Mexicanos in blue, the finest military on the face of the earth finally came to squash the traitors. And the Texians still won. Mexico was a great country once, but very poor losers. The U.S. should have taken it all and we wouldn’t have an inept, lost, and failed nation state to our South. Eva Longoria forgets how white execs at ABC made her rich for taking off her clothes on an awful,sub par show. What else will she be known for? Maybe marrying and divorcing #9 Tony Parker. Love you #9 !! Go SPURS!!
Report Post »JacksonIs
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:21pmDoes anybody not remember native Indians were here first
Report Post »BrayDeck
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:49pmYes they were. And we could have peacefully inhabited the lands that the 4 million indigenous folks weren’t using. Seriously. 4 million. That’s a lot of empty land (Look at the Mormon Pioneers who occupied unclaimed land and largely left the Indian tribes alone or even allied with them).
Instead of doing the rational thing, we rounded them up and sent them to reservations. Due to this, they’re the poorest ethnicity in America.
That’s big government for ya. Fixing problems.
Report Post »Bryan B
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:01pmThe Spanish wiped most of them out with war and disease 300 years before there was a United States…..
Report Post »Bryan B
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:09pm*200 years
Report Post »Philo Beddoe
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:11amNative Americans here first?
It is well known that the asians migrated over the bering sea land bridge.
Report Post »mominoc
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:52pm@Braydeck…the Indians have received TONS of money and land….from State (California, as well as other State) and Federal dollars. I am unsure of the exact percentage of Indian blood..(you don’t even have to be a 1/4 Indian)..but if you meet this criteria and many do you get a TON money. I know some who live on the Reservations in California and they don’t have to work at all. They just get a huge check every month. They love living on the reservations!! They have been more than well compensated.
Report Post »loveoursoldiers
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:15pmIf it is anything Americans have learned through this awful situation is that Hollywood stars are really overpaid bigmouths who think they are more important than they are and who only want to suck up to
Report Post »those in power using their fame and fortune.
I hope we have learned that if we continue to support these people ,they will continue to make decisions that are best for and not us.
Time to put Hollywood elites in their place. Make movies and STFU about politics!
plastixman
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:25pmI refuse to go to the movies to contribute to their success and do not “wait for it on HBO.” We all need to cut them off at the knees.
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:16amanybody who gets their information from entertainer is a moron, just like the entertainer…..
Report Post »CapitalismCzar
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:14pmEva isn’t one of the sharpest tools in the shed yet she gets a pass from Mahar because she is a leftest. Now why is that?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:39pmEVA … Nice house .. nobody home …
poor Maher .. he has neither looks or smarts.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:51amMaher didn’t give her a pass!…..He doesn’t know any better either! He thought she was right!
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:43am@CatB: But does his NOSE count for something?
Report Post »dah.rackemup
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:13pmany one going on Bill Maher either has a screw loose or is a masochist.and anyone thinking you could help her with facts aint going to happen.when hanging with lice you get lousy.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:39amIt‘s a good thing she’s hot. If she was average looking she would be scrubbing floors for somebody.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:09pmI’m pondering that!
Report Post »sandy21957
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:07pmI live in Arizona. The attitude that Arizona belongs to Mexico is pervasive and pernicious here. It’s just as destructive as the class warfare nonsense. Totally ignorant.
Report Post »loveoursoldiers
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:25pmI’m so glad I live in the NE. I feel sorry for you guys on the border and the normal people in CA.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:52amTell them… you will sell it back to them… for Gold… based upon 1850 exchange rate!
Report Post »mominoc
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 10:43amI live in San Clemente, CA approx. 2 hours North of the border of Tijuana….and it’s incredibly insane. The Illegal Mexican‘s are so arrogant they don’t care. They know they won’t be deported. Contrary to the ignorant beliefs….the Illegal’s are taking American jobs away. I see it everyday. As an example, every fast food establishment, you will the majority and when I say majority it is 90% Mexican’s working in these places. These are jobs that our teenagers should have while going to school. Further, the Anchor babies are now taking the jobs in Dr.’s offices, Banks, etc….because they are bi-lingual. It’s disgusting and deplorable how our government has let this happen. Our founding fathers were smart and this was not the American way and/or dream. I was born and raised in California and it was never like this. The Mexican population has grown due to the illegals from Mexico. I cannot stand the liberals….and ALL caucus’s need to go. There is no reason to have caucus’s in Congress. It one of many problems in our Government.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:05pmTechnically… we fought our way to Mexico City… and Occupied it… until they Surrendered. It we would have Occupied Mexico… they would have been better off Now! So, there Punishment was: letring them have it their own Way… and the Idiot Aztecs ReElected Santa Anna as President & God!
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:04pmThere are MANY names etched in stone upon the Monument to Our War Dead at the Memorial to our Heroes in Frankfort, KY Cemetery. Buena Vista War Dead are clearly listed.
I’ve read their names. I’ve traced their names, written in stone, with my hand. Physically have touched their names…These flowers of Lexington who went off and lost their lives for what?
US US as we are now. Geeze, almost 200yrs. later, and STILL LA RAZA INSISTS that Mexicans were WRONGED! Turns out our OWN educational system has GROSSLY skewed History!
SAnta Ana isn’t just a really strong wind…HE IS the reason for sooo many lives lost. This piece of dog crap cost hundreds of lives, both Mexican and American, just for his ego.
Report Post »spirited
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:01pmIssabella was behind the Pinta, Nina and Santa Maria.
And, what about Cortez’s Fountain of Youth.
>Perhaps she thinks Christianity was Aztec or Mayan.
Report Post »friedclouds
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:29amPonce de Leon was the explorer looking for the Fountain of Youth in Florida, not Cortez, who conquered Mexico. That being said, I listened to an argument between an American and a La Raza idiot who wanted to “Reconquer” California. The American finally said, “You are right. Look how we have screwed things up. Look at Mexico. They’ll do a better job for sure. La Raza idiot was speechless. End of argument.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:01pmI don’t get it. The article says, “Ultimately, the Americans won the war with Mexico but on February 2 ,1848, the two countries signed the Treaty of Guadalupe which stated that U.S. troops would withdraw from Mexico including Mexico City…”
And then Beck says, “Not at any time did the United States occupy nor rule Mexico.”
So, wait, the treaty specifies that American’s “withdraw from Mexico including Mexico City” but Beck says, “Not at any time did the United States occupy… Mexico.”
If the US didn’t “occupy” Mexico, then why did the treaty specify that the US “withdraw from Mexico.”
That seems to me a direct contradiction. Someone help me understand why that’s not doublespeak.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:16pmWho cares what you think???
Report Post »AChara
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:32pmBecause the war between the United States of America and Mexico was from 1846 to 1848…and the treaty was signed in Feb of 1848…….
Report Post »RebelPatriot
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:03pmTo occupy Mexico we would had to have control of their government. We were invading Mexico in order to force them into submission. We weren’t there to overthrow their government or to help them start a new government. Such as the case with Iraq and Afghanistan.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:40amWe all need to cut JZS a break here on this one.
He’s having a real tough time right now dealing with any mention of the word “occupy”.
His hopes and visions of OWS grandeur did not exactly go according to plan.
I think the final straw for him was when that group of owsers dumped the trash can full of human waste in to that office building elevator.
That was when he finally stopped posting “Another WIN for OWS” in every story.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:41amJZS, You again answered your own question and refuse to see the forest for the trees. We did not OCCUPY the nation of Mexico. The U.S. troops defeated the Mexicans in that effort and had troops in Mexico long enough to get the treaty signed. It was not a total occupational forces as we participated in with German in Post WWI, and Post WWII. It is more like the short time we ‘occupied’ a small part of Russia after WWI…LOL. Yes, we did have troops in Russia then by the orders of Woodrow Wilson. Who I suspect in your view could do no wrong.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:51amTHERIGHTSOFBILLY, Good point. Maybe we are being too harsh on JZS with this OCCUPY language. I guess the way he sees it, back in 1928 when a young LT Chesty Puller and his Marines were working with the Nicaraguan National Guard. Naturally, since we had Marines there, the United States was obviously OCCUPYING all of the Republic of Nicaragua. Logix?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 2:00amGeez, don’t want the typo police on my @$$, That “WHO” in the last sentence in the second post above should be WHOM.
Report Post »poweruser19
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 3:47amjzs
Report Post »do you consider us occupying pakistan when we went in to kill binladen,
From what i understand “to occupie” you must take over their governing body and enforce your rules.
Now i’m not the brightest bulb in the bunch but chasing someone across a border in a war situation is not occupying.
You seem to have only negative comments about our great country and our government, sure we have done some crappy things in the past.We are not the worst out there, and i invite you to go try to live somewhere else if your not happy here.
Inlightofthings
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 5:21amOKAY JZS…2nd grade level for you.
TEA party shows up at a rally, has speakers, posters, signs, flags and profess their patriotism. At most might be there for a 2 day event and clean up after themselves.
OCCUPIERS: Bring their tents, infested food, signs, crime, music and stay for months at a time looking for free stuff.
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:23amThere is a lot you don’t get dipstick! Does the lion give back the lamb after its meal?
Report Post »We paid in blood and money and are still paying. Unearned income tax refunds, deductions for children that aren’t here, health care, education, food stamps, social security benefits, giving up our jobs so they can have them. All to people breaking the law.
More Mexicans died in the Alamo fighting for independence than whites. If we had stopped at the border more raids would have taken place.
Eva on your way out of this country would you take that atiest piece of trash bill with you. Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.
jzs
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:22amHere’s an article titled “The Occupation of Mexico
May 1846-July 1848″
http://www.history.army.mil/brochures/Occupation/Occupation.htm#occu
I guess this historian has a different definition of the word “occupy.”
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:29amJZS, Did you bother to read any of the material in that link beyond the word “occypy?” The troops in the area were still fighting a guerilla army in several areas while trying to keep it from spilling over into the U.S. Again, did the U.S. take over the Mexican government and attempt to establish our form of government? Can’t help it if the author failed to use one word correctly.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:42amJZS, Another thing, if you start looking up definitions of an occupying force. You will need to look beyond the current international laws, and instead look at the international laws that existed in 1848. And, yes there were international laws regarding hostile military occupations into neighboring nations. The laws started to come into effect with international treaties shortly after the Napoleonic wars in the 1700s. If you can prove that the U.S. Army enslaved the populace of Mexico, superseded the Mexican government and established a new form of government or an American style of government, in any way mistreated the Mexican populace other than fighting the guerilla armies then you might just have something there regarding the U.S. actually occupying Mexico.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:29amRJJinGadsden, please, don’t bother with me on this one. If you want to define the word “occupation” in a different way than the “brochure [was] prepared in the U.S. Army Center of Military History by Stephen A. Carney,” well, be my guest. I‘ll go with the historian’s definition.
People like Beck, who have no formal education at all, let alone in history, are in the position of believing they can read a book or two and suddenly become learned historians, much as Rush Limbaugh believes he an expert on climate change or the economy. Ignorance really is bliss, and allows you to believe yourself and expert on any topic.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:22pmJZS, Way to be the pissant on this subject. Instead of looking at international law at the time you seek out current law that fits with your opinion. I have explained to you so many times that I study military history and obviously you don’t. So, if it does not fit YOUR definition, then it simply does not exist…does it? Play spin all that you want, your sir are a fool and fail to understand history for the sake of history.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:26pmJZS, What really bothers me is that I actually gave you the true era of international law of the time for you to do some homework and again, you simply refuse to see the forest for the trees and decide to go with some current drivel to support your ideas of what happened and under what laws of the time.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:33pmJZS, Oh year, another thing, the politicians during this time were roughly 85-95% Democrats that ran this sort of warfare. Suck on that.
Report Post »Duey2000
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:44pmI think that it depends on what your definition of occupy is. People like La Raza and Eva are using the term to mean occupied and settled and permanently taken over. So in this reference, I think that Beck is right to say that we never occupied Mexico.
In terms of war, occupy would imply soldiers being in charge of governments (whether local or national) and controlling roads, supply chains, etc. In this sense, yes we did occupy Mexico.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 5:32pmExcellent work RJJ,
Good job of exposing him for what he really is.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:15pmThanks Billy. Hell, if I am wrong I will admit it. If I make a mistake I will admit it. I have several times now found out for my self that I was mistaken regarding something that I said here. And, I came back and admitted it. I am not more perfect than you, or even JZS. We all make mistakes, But someone want to tell me not to bother him? As narcissistic and thin skinned as our golden child in the White House.
Report Post »starman70
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:01pmWas Eva born in the United States and if so, is she a product of the American school systems where true history isn’t taught or is she an immigrint who came here with a distoretd view of history?
I went to school in the 50′s and EVERY fact that Mr. Beck brought out today, we learned in our history classes.
Bill Maher surely is a product of the American School System, so he doesn’t have any iead abour real history and would never take the time to research it himself.
Report Post »mominoc
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 6:52pmOut of pure curiousity…since she is now a “politician” LOL…our trusty Wikipedia…has the following as part of her bio. Must’ve been updated recently. HA HA
“Early life”
Report Post »‘Eva Jacqueline Longoria was born in Corpus Christi, Nueces County, Texas, the youngest of four daughters born to Mexican-Americans Enrique Longoria, Jr. and Ella Eva Mireles.[2][5][6] She was raised Roman Catholic.[7] The Longoria family has resided in Texas since before the creation of the United States, predating the English-speaking settlers.’
1seekingtruth
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:00pmWhat do you expect Eva is a product of the Public school system.
Report Post »eramthgin
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 9:59pmWhy would anyone think that someone who makes a living by playing make believe would be smart? She is an ignnorant person just like most of the others in Hollywood.
Report Post »loveoursoldiers
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 9:58pmVintage Beck today. He was eating all kinds of goodies, cakes, ice cream. bread pudding etc
Report Post »I knew there was a punch line because he was really stuffing himself to the max and giving calorie counts for some.
hahaha
Everything he was eating Moochelle eats while telling her subjects not to eat them.
Now this is the Beck I fell in love with! the guy with the props.. the red phone etc.
El Paso Girl
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 9:57pmBeck is Right……When will these dumb actors & actresses keep there mouth shut in public…..and just act.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 9:55pm“mindless morons in the Bill Maher audience”
Touche’
The history of the Conquistadors invasion of Mexico is very brutal.
Beck should focus on that.
Report Post »BrayDeck
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:44pmThe history of the Aztec enslavement and massacre of other tribes in Mexico is very brutal.
Beck should focus on that.
Report Post »CougarNick78
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:30amNo arguments there, Butch. I find it odd how the Spanish and British have the gall to lecture us on “imperialism” and “slavery” YET didn’t both of their empires institutionalize and legalize slavery for 200 years or so? Granted the Limeys made it illegal in the 1820s, but, didn’t THEY send their slave labor from Sierra Leone to farm the South and Virginia for The Crown? And Amistad, wasn’t that a Spanish slave ship?
Eva is a product of whom she listens to. Cute chick, but not much for brains. Sad, really.
I wonder if Tony Parker chuckles at her big mouth, post divorce?
Report Post »voodoolife
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 9:53pmMexicans, regardless of true history, still believe that the Southwest is ‘occupied Mexico’…
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:03pmTo the victor go the spoils,we won the war but the idiots in government still paid them for it.
Report Post »Sorocialism
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:20amThey believe it is “Aztlan” and many politicians such as AZ district 3 Rep. Raul Grijalva is in the tank for that trash. I‘d be surprised if some of the prominent Obama appointees weren’t members of “La Mecha” with him.
Report Post »Elena2010
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:30amThey dream of what is not because they cannot stand to look upon what is.
While on paper, Mexico is a modern representative democracy, but in fact, it’s a corrupt oligarchy. The middle class comes and goes at the whim of that oligarchy’s economic plans.
I live on the Tex-Mex border and frequently find illegals wandering the neighborhood. I call PD and then feed them for their trip home. Let’s face it, if they survive the Texas brush they are simply going to become someone’s slave up north. It’s a no-win scenario for the typical illegal Mexican coming across for a “better life.”
With shootouts daily in Mexican border cities, newspapers refusing to report on the violence for fear of being killed, is it any wonder that Mexicans are fleeing to the north?
I am not for illegal immigration at all. Use the front door not the bathroom window to come to America. If we really need more poultry processors or farm workers, then grant them visas. But by all means and in all haste, SHUT THE BORDER before more of the cartel violence finds its way here.
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