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We’ve Gone Soft: PA School Punishes Students By Forcing Them to Eat…Sandwiches
- Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:38am by
Emily Esfahani Smith
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HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — School officials say the students at a Pennsylvania school are getting sandwiches for lunch for failing to appreciate the hot meals the district provides.
The Harrisburg Patriot-News reports the pre-kindergarten through eighth-grade students at Camp Curtain School have received cold sandwiches this week as punishment for misbehavior, including failure to clean up after themselves.
An administrator tells the newspaper that behavior has improved. The official says the lunches still include fruit and vegetables.
Hot meal service will resume at the school on Monday.
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Comments (95)
BH
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:27pmI have known enough teachers and school administrators to know that from their perspective our discussion of this issue is just plain silly. They have their PhD’s in education, we don’t, so its understandable to them that we are ignorant about such things. No one outside the teaching community is allowed to have any input on what goes on in our schools. We are just supposed to vote them another round of tax increases so they can keep their rich benefits and add more Mickey Mouse classes.
Report Post »bigdaddybernie
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:55amMake them stand on a stool while they eat their gruel, . . . . and nothing before they go to bed after they scrub the floors with a toothbrush !
Report Post »BonnieBlueFlag
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:37amIt is scary to me how endemic the brainwashing is in this country. People are upset that *their* child isn’t getting their “due” in the school. Just as with Medicare and Social Security, we‘re only against the entitlements that don’t apply to us.
Your child isn’t entitled to ANYTHING from the government. You shouldn’t be upset at anything that goes on in the schools. You should be OUTRAGED that:
a) Our children are federally mandated to go to school at all. It‘s not the government’s business to dictate to parents how children spend their time.
b) Our federal tax dollars are being misappropriated to LOCAL schools which should be a state and local matter
Get off the plantation, people.
Report Post »mom4times
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:31amOh, the HORROR…..How dare a school even consider serving a COLD heartless SANDWICH!!!!!!…..probably tasted better than the hot, tastless, cardboard that is usually served. Ya it probably is the free lunch kids…..and yes my kids are free lunch kids as well but we taught them early to appreciate the hot lunches and if they wouldn’t eat them then I would send them with a sandywich or they starve till they get home…..which then of course whether they ate at school or not, they eat me out of the house anyway….
Report Post »Dougbeach
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:30amPunishment? Try indoctrination! They’re trying to get the students used to the lower standard of living (i.e. cold lunches) we can all expect when Piven and co’s plan to collapse the economy succeeds!
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:25amPlease sir could I have another sandwich?
Report Post »Shackleford
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:24amWhen I was in elementary school our hogies (aka subs) were awful. The bread in the things was always soaking wet, have you ever eaten wet bread? It’s disgusting. I was 23 when I finally ate subs again because my company meetings brought in some Subway subs for lunch.
Moving to cold sandwiches wouldn’t have been much of a punishment as the hot food in my school was just as bad. They even found a way to screw up spaghetti! How do you screw up spaghetti?
Report Post »islandlady
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:22amMore Government control!
Report Post »Kerri g
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:17amWhat about punishing only the transgressors. What about dening recess. What about a good paddleing. What about detension. What about suspenssion? You don’t use food as a punishment stupid. Besides, kids love sandwiches. They are hungry by lunch time, they don’t care. Guess what mom’s put in their kids lunch boxes? Sandwiches. This school district is beyond ignorant.
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:47amI agree Kerri,
Report Post »Ms. Nobama should be outraged, using food as reward or punishment is just plain foolish and ignorant if one is concerned about childhood obesity (or any other eating disorder).
AND this would not work for either of my boys who love sandwiches- of course my boys would also clean up and behave themselves- and then come home and tell me exactly who DID NOT clean up their mess. I am positive my oldest son would even more likely tell the offenders to clean it up or just did it himself- not so positive of my youngest, but he will learn, we are working on it.
The staff or volunteers should have taken care of the problem by making sure the kids cleaned up. Parents are 100% responsible for teaching their children to behave and be responsible, but we should at least be able to know the school is HELPING us with follow through at school. I am sure there must be a rule about cleaning up your messes, the school should just enforce it with individual offenders, collective damnation is not necessary.
Its Gonna Getcha
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:12amTake your child out of the school if they treat them like dogs. Consider home schooling.
Report Post »piper60
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:02amI thing this is a prime example of school authoritarians assuming that kids wouldn’t like a cold sandwich now and again…..Kind of like the district that’s trying to ban chocolate milk.
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:55amI don’t think you shoud being using food as a punishment tool, BUT if I was going to–I would make them watch films on children in third world countries digging through garbage dumps for anything to eat during lunch. We are so Godly BLESSED in this country that it has become a CURSE to us!! Talk about double edged swords on judgement day!!!!.
Report Post »Hula Calhoun
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 10:03amYou have an excellent idea.
Report Post »Rob
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:54amPublic schools are just a branch of the socialist government.
Report Post »mom4times
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:33ammy thoughts are going in about the same way as well
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:52amLet the peasants eat cake. No responsibility from the parents or their kids. Little jonny doesent have problems he’s a victim of the school system. You dont understand him. Whether its obesity, behavioral, degree of learning these zombie parents wont step in to do the right thing. Discipline your kids and take responsibility! And the punishment is sandwiches, this country is crazy!
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:50amNot to be overly serious, but denying or using food as a punishment is a human rights violation generally recognized under international law.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:59amA human rights violation? Give me a break. They are being fed sandwiches. Maybe we should get the U.N. human rights division involved. Of course the rest of the world would first have difficulty understanding just what the punishment was and then after a lengthy explanation to them on what the punishment was we would really have a illegal emigration problem with all of the people trying to sneak in here.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:10amThey are being fed sandwiches to inflict punishment. Not because the school district can’t afford anything else, not because the students prefer them. Whether in the context of refugee camps, prisons, prisoners of war (Geneva has expressed provisions on the subject) using or denying food to punish someone is prohibited. Certainly, the kids aren’t prisoners, but the school is completely out of line here.
Report Post »BonnieBlueFlag
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:13am@Mandors
Whew! I thought for a second that your post applied to the US! The United States does not recognize “international law” in regard to internal civillian matters (most of the time we don’t recognize it in military matters either.)
The serving of the revolting “nutriloaf” to prisoners has been upheld as *constitutional* because it contains the nutrition necessary for survival. So does a sandwich. You are dumb.
The ridiculous “international law” means nothing. Besides, let them step up to the Intergallactic Counsel of Heroes, who are always on my side of any given debate. Equally stupid. This is not *yet* your precious Global World and sovereignty still means something.
Report Post »BonnieBlueFlag
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:18am@Mandors
p.s. When the prisons serve the above forementioned “nutriloaf” it is as a *punishment.* Completely constitutional.
The kids are not banned from bringing their lunch, either, if they don’t <3 bologna.
Report Post »Nick Rizzuto
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:49amDoesn’t this represent a moral hazard to those students who prefer a cold sandwich?
Report Post »TopOfTheMuffin2u
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:06amLOL!!Good one.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:49amAnd, of course, ALL of the students are being “punished” by being given sandwiches instead of “over-fried chicken“ and ”cardboard pizza” for the misdeeds of a FEW miscreants whose parents never instilled in them a sense of discipline or order.
Report Post »Daggett
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:48amI bet they had to eat ice cream with NO sprinkles, too.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:06amI’m outraged at the mere thought of that!
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:45amSo now the state of PA is now encouraging obesity? SHAME!
Report Post »Hawt'n'secksie
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:45amWhat a travesty. These children will be scarred for life. What’s next? Poo fiber bars?
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:45amYou can punish me with a sandwich any time you want! Put some mayo on it and it might even be cruel and usual.
Report Post »King4wd
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 2:52pmI guess I get punished every day at work. Well, especially at lunch.
Report Post »childfull
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:43pmReally…. the sandwich looks great! I grew up on PBJ’s myself. Oh, and by the way….isn’t that child abuse ( as what the left deems) – denying a child an adequate meal? PLEASE! that sandwich is fit for a king. My first grader was allowed to bring in snacks from home. Sometimes cookies, sometimes fruit cups ( whatever I had and he wanted). The principal told me that the cookies were not allowed for snack because they had to be “ healthy and nutritious” by the school standards. This, ladies and gentleman, was Mom’s cookie war with the public school. I took it to the B of Ed and won. No one tells me what I may or may not feed my child. The school lunches stink anyway.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:44amBunch of wusses. Shame, shame, shame.
Report Post »pavnvet
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:36amI agree. When I was a kid, there were no school lunches. I was lucky to have brought a sandwich from home which was more than likely a PB & J. When I went to High School, the rich kids could afford to pay 60 cents for a 1/2 bologna sub, 1/2 pint of ice cream and a 12 oz soda at the local corner store I wasn’t that lucky, I still brought my pb & j. Somehow I survived.
Hot lunch? That was on Sunday when we had Chicken at 1 in the afternoon after church.
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:44amWhat are they going to do when the kids don’t like the sandwiches?
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:20amHow about what my parents did – you eat what is prepared and put before you or you go hungry until the next meal!
Report Post »powhatan
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:44amwhat about forcing them TO clean up after themselves or get detentions and have to scrub everything down?!?
Report Post »Hawt'n'secksie
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:50amThat would be racist.
Report Post »ilovetheusa1
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:54amand put the union janitors out of work, no way.
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:52amit might also infringe on their individual rights, they may have just been born messy and defiant, part of their anything-but-Christian-religion, it could be the illegal children so we can’t say anything to them, they are already so oppressed, they can’t help it!
Report Post »obviously the answer is collective dam-nation
flsnipe
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:42amMore bad behavior in school, I bet its the free lunch kids!
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:50amSandwiches as punishment? WTF? How about feeding the unruly little monsters gruel until they shape up. Are we a bunch of sissies in the country or what?
Report Post »BIGJAYINPA
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:56amOh wow!!?? You can punish me anytime with a bologna and cheese on white with mayo.. And if I’ve been really bad you can use a Norristown Zep with extra oil…just sayin’
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:00am@Gold Coin:
No, we are being made to have a generation of sissies in the current school system where socialist PC garbage is being allowed to run rampant without any control.
Report Post »afishfarted
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:07amsounds like the ol’ bread and water routine in prison. “Do as we say. Stop being individuals and admit you’re under our control or you will “have your mind set right” **Cool Hand Luke, for those that don’t remember**
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:08amDo you still want them determining what your kids eat, after learning they will use food to punish your child?
Please wake up, folks.
This crap isn’t cute. It’s disturbing.
I’d be really pissed.
Report Post »BonnieBlueFlag
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:23am@ Sinista Mace
Its. A. Sandwich.
Seriously.
A sandwich is probably much healthier than the enemic, greasy hot lunch that is normally served. No messy trays, either, which is obviously the intended *point*. Your undue outrage indicates some sort of belief in entitlement for you, your kids, or anyone else in your circle of acquaintances. Someone should alert you to the fact that you and your spawn are entitled to nothing, are owed nothing, and can generally stuff it if you just want to whine all day and night. Nobody cares.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:46amWonder if they are still charging the same amount for the sandwiches over a hot lunch- wouldn’t it be cheaper serving a sandwich?
Further- I thought it was the liberal experts that said you never use food to punish a child- bed without dinner?
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:47amHow is that punishment? sandwiches are one of top 5 great culinary inventions in history I effing love em.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:48amSnow,
Report Post »Is it any wonder that more and more people are opting for home schools and charter schools as opposed to the public indoctrination center.
auntbea
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:14pmWho thinks up this stupid stuff?
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:26pm…
Report Post »“Hey, kids.
Wanna trick the mean old schools?
Bring lunch from home…….
Yeah, I know it’s insane, but it may catch on someday!”
awizard
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:33pmUmm, first my son takes a cold sandwich everyday ’cause he says “they don’t give you enough when you buy”.
Next, I live about thirty miles upwind of Camp Curtin (yes,they spelled wrong). It’s bordered to the West by the red light district, to the East and South by a serious slum … You can bet your bottom dollar we’re talking about the “Free Lunch” program … The city is the state capitol, and is so far left it fell off the map years ago and I do believe they believe in the “collective system” (one kid messes up, they all pay) … Go figure, “The Left” using food as a punishment. Other than that, “Let them eat Sandwiches”.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 3:37pmI have often said that if I were a child again, they would want to put me punish me all the time. Now I see that they WERE punishing me with the sandwichs my parents gave me everuday for lunch.
Report Post »boomer46
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 6:04pmAnd if they’re still messy, let them eat cake!
Report Post »grandma7
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 7:45pmYou can bet their going to behave, now. After all…… sandwiches!. Can’t imagine anything worse than a dreaded sandwich. That‘ll teach ’em!!
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on May 15, 2011 at 11:00amI knew this was going to happen sooner or later. Government establishing who is in charge and how you WILL genuflect when they say bow. It’s best to start that training early. Because I won’t bend. I’ve made up my mind. Freedom and liberty (although becoming more and more scarce) are where my heart lies).
… and if it‘s bad don’t let it get you down you can take it. And if it hurts don’t let them see you cry, you can take it. Argent.
Report Post »*************************
Posted on May 15, 2011 at 3:58pmAMERICA! hAVE YOU BECOME INSANE?!?
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 16, 2011 at 11:52amBONNIEBLUEFLAG
You actually just sat up here and REASONED away your own liberties…
You don’t have the right to reason away mine.
I SAY I don’t want the damn school using food as a punitive measure for my child.
FLAT OUT.
What the hell is wrong with people nowadays…
This clown sat up here and says “Someone should alert you to the fact that you and your spawn are entitled to nothing, are owed nothing, and can generally stuff it if you just want to whine all day and night. Nobody cares.”
What the hell are you talking about?
Entitlement? I have a RIGHT to decide that I don’t want the damn school district using food as a punitive measure for my child. Someone should alert you to the fact that I’M THEIR DADDY, not YOU AND YOUR SOCIALIST IDEOLOGICAL ZOMBIES.
I don‘t care that you don’t care about that.
Undue outrage.Pfft.
Wait until they come out with a teleporter so I can smack the taste out of people’s mouth through the screen…
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