What‘s With David Axelrod’s Weird Tweet About Mormons? And Why Did He Delete It?
- Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:20am by
Madeleine Morgenstern
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Top Obama re-election adviser David Axelrod posted — and then deleted — something of a head-scratching tweet Monday that included a link to a news story about menstruating Mormon women being barred from official ceremonies.
“Wring URS. This is the Medicare story,” Axelrod tweeted Monday afternoon with a link to this story from the Salt Lake Tribune, titled: “Menstruating Mormons barred from temple proxy baptisms?”
From the article:
Mormon feminists recently learned that some young women were wrongly blocked from doing LDS proxy baptisms – which include wearing all-white clothing and being fully immersed in water – because they were menstruating. Though this was not a consistent prohibition, the women had anecdotal evidence that it was happening in some Mormon temples, including several in Utah. Trouble is, such a ban is bogus.
As the Atlantic Wire despaired: “What does it all mean?!”
What does “wring” mean? And what is URS? We may never know: Axelrod quickly deleted it.
He replaced it about an hour later with another tweet about Medicare.
“This is proper link to Medicare story. Mitt won’t take it, but most Americans would lose under Mitt-Ryan voucher,” he wrote, linking this time to a Politico story about Mitt Romney declining to sign up for Medicare on his birthday.
The Atlantic had several theories about the tweet and its subsequent disappearance from Axelrod’s Twitter account: That it could have been a kind of “on-purpose accident“ to ”promote the idea that Mormons are weird”; that it was meant as a private message but was mistakenly posted to his main account; or that he sent the wrong short-linked article by accident.
The Obama campaign wrote in to the Atlantic to say Axelrod “mistakenly tweeted out a link to the wrong story.”
Unfortunately, the meaning of “Wring URS” received no such clarification.
(h/t Free Beacon)
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Comments (190)
SamIamTwo
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:09pmLook at this while I do that…and let me say this about that. Keep up the antics you bunch of lunatics. People are becoming more aware of how a far lefty campaigns. Deceit, lies and flies. Where you see flies you will find BS.
Report Post »SnowKalBebes
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:09pmCheck out this cartoon banned by the mormon church
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxk3YltU3O8
It is hilarious and enlightening at the same time. Also, why isn’t the blaze doing any stories on mormons posthumously babtizing holocaust victims? Guess it kind of goes against ol‘ glenn’s I stand with Israel shtick eh?
DJ in AZ
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:28pmBanned by the Mormon church? It wasn’t even produced by the Mormon church.
It‘s somebody else’s interpretation of the LDS faith, not church doctrine.
Report Post »azitdad
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:34pm@SnowKalBebes
Ok. First of all, knuckelhead, Mormons don’t “BAN” anything. Censorship is not part of the doctrine.
Second, you are going to be hard pressed to find a religous organization more in love with the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. Do some research. Huffingting Post is NOT research.
Finally, religous bigotry is a crime and a sin. Crusade much?!?!
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:52pmI am telling you that they are going to totally unload on Romney. THey have been planning this for 4 years and the funny thing is is that the prolonged primary is disturbing Obama’s plans. It takes time to totally tear someone down and to make the people think that they are sub-human. Axlerod knows this and is in a quandry.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:11pm@azitdad
Pointing out differences in doctrine isn’t religious bigotry, neither is pointing out where said doctrine is heretical.
If someone was prancing around claiming to be a Mormon but spouting off beliefs that are divergent with a large portion of the core doctrines you know, would you confront him in his heresy (or “sin”) as it says to do in Leviticus? If you do, is that bigotry? Or simply following God’s command?
If you answer bigotry, then riddle me this: If, for instance, I had gone a few times to a Mormon church and the lay leader (or pastor or whatever you guys call him) says, in open forum, that Mormons are the only true Christian faith and starts listing examples of how the mainstream church is wrong, would that not also qualify as bigotry? If so, I think I know a Mormon lay leader you need to tell to stop being a religious bigot from his pulpit.
I’ll tell you this: When I hear someone who claims to be a Christian spouting Mormon teachings, I tend to confront him in accordance with Leviticus 19:17. Your doctrine is divergent with a large portion of Christian core doctrines and is, in my view, heresy.
You’re as close to Christianity as Islam is to Judaism. Islam has all the same cast of characters, but the teachings have been fundamentally changed. The only difference is, Mormons aren’t trying to kill people over the differences.
Report Post »Nehemiah6.3
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:45pm@snowkalbebes
The LDS church does not do any babtising of Jewish holocaust victims. The below link will show an offical letter from the head of the Church. Also, this cartoon is made by people wanting to harm the church. They do not speak truth. Maybe you should actually find out the truth?
http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/first-presidency-issues-direction-members-names-ordinances
Report Post »lasvegan
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:08pmThese posts are all over the place. A few “facts” for you:
1. Mormons are devoutly patriotic and adhere to the precepts of the law of the land and the US Constitution. I do not know of another religion that places as much importance in the founding fathers and laws of the land as Mormons do. They believe that God’s hand was in the founding and start up of this nation.
2. Harry Reid is not only Mormon but is very active in the faith. A member in good standing and practices the faith. Even though he is not in step with the mainstream member, the Church never tells a member how to practice politics or who to vote for.
3. There are more than a few practicing Mormons in Congress on both sides of the aisle.
So, I doubt that Obama will use the religion as a tool in the election if Romney is the candidate. Harry Reid was instrumental in Obama running and winning the election. If Obama does use religion, it will be a very interesting thing to watch.
Report Post »Harry Assenback
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:23pmDavid Axelrod is the same guy who said “The higher a monkey climbs a pole the more you can see his butt” referring to Newt.
Hey David! The higher you climb a pole the more I can see your nuts.
Report Post »Molalla912
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:37pmmormons posthumously babtizing holocaust victims? Guess it kind of goes against ol‘ glenn’s I stand with Israel shtick eh?
I’m not a Mormon and I get it! If you would stop looking for ways to blindly attack, take a moment and think you would see the obvious. Mormons must believe (As other churches do) that you must be baptized to enter heaven. By going out of there way to baptize (Posthumously) they are “In there minds” insuring that Holocaust victims will enter heaven.
Report Post »And You Have Problem with that??
I may disagree with how useful this would be, But I applaud and Thank the LDS for the effort.
True American66
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:47pm@Patrick Henry II…I think you hit the nail squarely on the head!
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:48pmIt is called Hate. Hate of religon and traditional American values. The communists did it, the nazis did it. It is now the doctrine of the democrats.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:08pmReplying to SnowKal, since the LDS concept of baptism for the dead involves a proxy baptism, and that it is considered valid only if the person that has passed on accepts it, why would anyone care what they were doing? The LDS church decided to buckle under pressure to stop (at least for the time being) baptizing holocaust victims, however that was simply a neighborly gesture. If they chose to continue doing it it would mean pretty much nothing, since their goal is strictrly honorable.
Report Post »gordonknapp
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:09pm@snowkalbebes – In the past, the Mormons used this cartoon as a teaching aid for their children. This is exactly what they believe! Research it!
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:13pmHey LeftFighter, you seem stuck on leviticus instructions. Does that mean you still believe in stoning? How about eating particular types of meat? In any case, you surely don’t think of yourself as a good example of a good Christian do you? I mean, bwa ha ha ha. You’re just so funny that it is entertaining.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:18pm@GORDONKNAPP – Seriously, use your brain. In the first few seconds of this ridiculous film, the commentator says “THEY say” (referring to “mormons”)… duh! This was made by a third party apart from the “mormons” since he speaks of what we believe in third person. Also, we do NOT and NEVER have referred to our doctrine as “mormonism”. You anti-mormons are so pathetic in your vile attempts to smear and desecrate our beliefs. What are you so scared of???
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:22pm@LEFTFIGHTER – The difference between bigotry and comparison is INTENT. Was the intent to truly inform and discuss or was it to destroy and mock? I think the INTENT of most of these posts is pretty obvious. So please, don’t try to rationalize these UNPROVOKED attacks on our religious beliefs. Its not like these people are replying to a post where a member of our church was bearing their testimony.
Report Post »aztd1
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:28pmPretty funny, can’t handle what God said thousands of years ago…but you believe a con man called Joe Smith with invisible tablets? How many times has your Mormon “truth” officially changed over the years? It all comes down to believing God’s Word, or some guy who craved power and a lot of young women. (BTW, kind of a bummer you Mormon women have to be second class for eternity, while your husband gets countless wives on his own planet.) Today Joseph Smith would be a sexual predator. If you’re thinking something is a scam, do you go to the place where all the suspected scammers are, or do you talk to someone who realized it was a scam and got out. Sandra Tanner (great great granddaughter of Brigham Young) is one to listen to, along with Dr. Lynn and Michael Wilder.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:30pm@AZITDAD – lol – great post! However, I would venture to say that most of these anti-mormon folks do 99.9% of their research on youtube (most likely in all aspects of life). They probably feel academic when researching on wikipedia (which I likely would have been tossed out of law school if I ever tried to cite it as a source). In short, these guys go to everyone except the source. Its like asking the Nazi’s if Judaism is true. If they want to know what we really believe they simply need to go to http://www.mormon.org or talk to one of our missionaries. Once they get the right information, then they can only know if its true through prayer.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:44pm@snowkal –
Maybe they should do a story on Paul teaching the doctrine of proxy baptisms for the dead – Paul declared in 1 Corinthians 15:29:
“Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?”
You see, we believe that EVERYONE is given the opportunity to accept or reject the Gospel of Jesus Christ. In order to fully do that, one MUST be “born again” and baptized “of water.” See John 3:1–10. God loves all his children, not just the ones who were lucky enough to live in a place and time where the Gospel was taught. Thus, if someone died without the chance to accept the gospel during their life, then they must be given the chance to be be baptized “of water” in order to enter the “Kingdom of God.” Therefore, you now understand why Paul taught the doctrine of people being “baptized for the dead.”
See also John 5:25–29.
Please visit http://www.mormon.org to learn more.
Report Post »Polarized America
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 6:01pmP8riot
if Mormons believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. and that one MUST be “born again” and baptized “of water.” See John 3:1–10. Then why do you have to be Mormons ?.. Is it true that you believe that you’ll become Gods and have your own Planet ? I mean whats the appeal ? and no don’t direct me to the Mormon link because it says nothing about what i asked
sorry for my ignorance about your faith, I just don’t understand why none of you will clear things up
Report Post »aztd1
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 6:11pm@P8riot First, I think you were replying to me and not AZITDAD (correct me if I’m wrong). Second, if you did read my comment and we’re replying to it, it’s obvious you read it as closely as most Mormons ever read the Bible. Interesting that you bring up 1st Corinthians, a book that makes Mormons a little uncomfortable to thoroughly read. But as God says, you will not get it because His Spirit is not with you.
For you others out there, like Beck says, dig for the truth yourself. Look at people who got out of Mormonism and are now Christians. Sandra Tanner is a good start along with Michael Wilder who was very high up in the “church”.
Sorry P8riot, you’re fighting a losing battle with God. You can try to turn and twist things (scarily like the current administration), but in the end only God’s truth wins. I pray you’ll find it.
“Comparing the Book of Mormon to the Bible is like comparing the Obama Healthcare Bill to the Constitution.”
Report Post »Zcat
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 7:17pmAmen!!!
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 8:10pmThats right… Make this election about anything but Ocrapa
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:44pm@POLARIZED AMERICA – I’m happy to answer any question you have about my faith. Your question is a great question!
We simply believe that one must be baptized by someone with the proper authority, i.e. priesthood. John the Baptist held the Priesthood of Aaron (aka the Aaronic Priesthood) and was thus authorized to baptize. The fact that John the Baptist held a special authority is evidenced by the people of “Jerusalem, and all Judea, and all the region round about Jordan” coming to him to be baptized (as opposed to everyone baptizing each other). See Matthew 3:5.
Therefore, to answer the heart of your question, we believe that the proper priesthoods can only be held by worthy members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Worthy members of our church are given the priesthood by the “laying on of hands.” The laying on of hands is a procedure used from the earliest times in the manner of blessing, conferring the Holy Ghost, and ordaining to the priesthood. See Gen. 48:14, 17; Num. 27:18, 23; Deut. 34:9; Matt. 9:18; Mark 10:13, 16; Luke 4:40; Acts 6:6; 8:14–17; 9:12, 17; 13:3; 19:1–7; 28:8; 1 Tim. 4:14; 5:22; 2 Tim. 1:6; Heb. 6:2; James 5:14–16.
Only worthy members can hold the proper priesthood to baptize (Aaronic or Melchizedek priesthoods) because, “no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.” Hebrews 5:4. Christ was a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek (the greater Priesthood). Hebrews 5:1
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:12pm@AZTD1 – No, I was not replying to you. However, I’m happy to answer the basis of your argument.
So you believe that the best source of a topic is to go to someone who has left that organization? So would you have gone to Judas to ask about Christ? Would you go to Arlen Specter to ask about the Republican Party? Of course not. I do not believe the way I do because of man, but because of God. Thus, we can dismiss of that averment.
As for searching for the truth, I have and have found The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be 100% perfect and true (our members are not perfect, but the the Church is).
I began by reading the entire Bible and Book of Mormon. I then pondered and prayed with a sincere heart. I’ve never had such a good feeling come over me, testifying that the Book of Mormon is another testament of Jesus Christ, a companion to the Bible. My favorite part of the Book of Mormon is found in 3 Nephi:11 when the Resurrected Christ appears to the people living on the American continent. Thereafter, I’ve continued to study and pray and the Holy Ghost has testified to me that the Joseph Smith was a true Prophet, that Thomas Monson is now the living Prophet and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is lead directly by Jesus Christ himself. The closer I’ve lived the teachings of this church, the closer I’ve come to our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. It has brought so much joy to my life. You too can come to know the truth through prayer
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:47pmP8RIOT
Report Post »Sorry, the verses you mentioned say nothing about baptism with water or anything else. They do speak of your natural birth (water) and your spiritual birth, and Christ even explains both to Nicodemius. The second set of verses you quote have absolutely nothing to do with baptizing the dead. It has everything to do with Christ’s second coming, where those who died believing in him and those alive believing in him will be called up to meet with him in the clouds. Bottom line NO BAPTISM is mentioned, implied, or alluded to in the verses you sent everyone to read. Try again.
joel228
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 1:23amSparky101, you are a prime example of someone teaching a doctrine other than the one Paul preached. Why was Jesus baptised if not to provide the example for all to follow? When he said follow me were those just idle words?
Jesus said “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” John 3:5
Do you really think he was saying unless a man has a mother he cannot enter the kingdom of God? Was Jesus that trivial? I don’t think so.
Why did Jesus and John baptise other people in the water? And why did they need “much water”? Clearly part of being born again includes the physical act of being submersed in water and by the proper method and authority as P8riot explained.
John 3
Report Post »22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judæa; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23 And John also was baptizing in Ænon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.
Sparky101
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 1:52amHi Joel, Christ is quite clear in his discussion with Nicodemus (read it slowly). He responds to Nicodemus question about how he could enter his mother’s womb for a second birth, and Jesus explains that he must be born of water (notice – not baptized) and born a second time of the Spirit. No, he wasn’t being simplistic, nor was I. I can’t believe you would ask me why Christ was baptized, when he told John in very clear terms (to meet all righteousness). Although priests were purified as part of their ritual entering the priesthood, Jesus did not need purification. He did it to fullfil all the requirements of coming into his ministry. Don’t stop at John 3:10, continue to 3:16. God tells you exactly what is needed to obtain everlasting life (and he didn’t simply forget to mention baptism, because it is not a requirement – think of the thief on the cross – baptized? no, yet entered paradise that very night). So, don’t go tossing around charges of false doctrine, read a bit more and a bit deeper. Also, I challenge you to point to any scripture that says Christ baptized anyone. Go ahead, I’ll wait.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 1:57amScratch my comment about Jesus baptizing, you found the one verse that makes mention of it.
Report Post »Luke611
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 2:05amPolarize America…
In Ephesians 4:5 we read “One Lord, one faith one baptism”. Jesus Christ was our only Savior who taught one gospel and established one church. Since He founded His church, man has divided the gospel truth to reconcile man’s teachings into over 40 different Christian churches.. all teaching a different interpretation of his gospel and requiring a different baptism each time,…well, until the seventies and early eighties anyway.
Dividedwefail….you say Christians believe in the Bible…Then why are there 92 different interpretations in current publication? why was the Comma Johanneum added to the second generation Vulgate?…and then the King James (John 5:7-8)? Why of the original Codex Vaticanus were at least two dozen previously accepted books removed? Why do Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Assyrian, Roman Catholic and Protestant each define a Bible with varying new testament compilations? Why did The British and Foreign Bible Society 1826 feel they had the authority to remove th apocrypha? Why did The American Bible Society do so in 1880? Why did The Archbishop of Canterbury do so in 1885? If the Bible was inspired by God, who gave these men the right to alter the Bible? The Bible is riddled with missing scriptures and errors and yet you consider it infallable….and mock the Book of Mormon has something that was a magic con.
Report Post »Based on the bible, prove to me YOUR RELIGION is the one true church of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Searchingforthelight
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:07pmPersonally I would think that statement would be an oxymoron or oxy“mormon” or a moron statement because I would think, or I would hope that there were no mormon feminists. Not that mormon women are not their own person, know the law as other women do ect. But I feel mormon women, with the right mormon man, would be in Heaven. The righteous mormon men I have seen take time and listen to their wives, they work together at home with the kids. They really support their wives. They work as a team.
Report Post »Which is basically what any marriage should be like in any religion. What more could any woman want?
Spencer.K.Shannon
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:51amEveryone is now focusing there attention on religion as a whole. There also attacking the family. They go against anything God has put forth unto us. Romney is a Mormon, his religion, family, and himself is getting attacked. Along with Santorum. These libs are everywhere. its sad to see the role models of our youth to be some brain washed liberal. Dang Chris Rock, I think your the racist here.
Report Post »DividedWeFail
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:50amThis is just a slight taste of things to come. I cannot wait to Romney’s religion to be ridiculed by the left. There is so much Scientology weird to it that the left will not be able to resist. They know that conservative Christians already don’t trust Romney because he is a progressive RINO .
Christians are monotheism – not polytheism. Christians do not believe Jesus Christ walked North America. Christians do not believe their scripture came out of a magic hat nor do they believe in magic underwear. Christians do not believe after death they continue to have spirit babies. Christians do not believe they evolve into a god like Jesus – even surpassing Him. Christians do not believe there are 3 heavens and no hell. Christians do not believe after they die they fly away and rule another planet in the Solar System as a god. Christians believe in ONE BOOK OF GOD CALLED THE BIBLE. It is blasphemy to believe in another. Christians do not follow the Mormon Doctrine and Covenants or the Book of Morman. Christians do not believe that Mary wasn‘t a virgin or that Satan is Jesus’ brother. Yet Mormons believe all these things. On and On it goes. Saturday Night Live and the TV comedians will will have a field day. Christianity is ridiculed on a daily basis and to get Romney – Mormonism (which will be pointed out is NOT Christian will be ridiculed also.
Fox News SILENCES any left person bringing up Romney’s strange beliefs – but LSM WILL.
Report Post »Zeke2020
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:06pmAnd Catholics believe in infant baptism and Protestants don’t. And most Protestants believe in baptism by immersion, and Catholics don’t. And some Protestants believe in a pre-Trib Rapture and some don’t. What’s my point? SO WHAT? As long as they believe that salvation comes by faith in the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ, they’re CHRISTIANS in my book, and that’s what Mormons believe. Yes, I have issues with some of their theology, as I do with that of Catholics, the Witnesses, and many other denominations. But if the central tenet of their faith is John 3:16, then they’re CHRISTIANS, and we would all be better off if we accepted that instead of looking for the mote in our brother’s eye.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:17pm@dividedwefail – Ya‘all better stop ’picking and choosing’ which religion you will defend when defamed – otherwise yours might be next.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:20pmIf you notice, the “mormons” are not attacking Santorum and Newt’s Catholocism. We never attacked Bill Clinton because he is a Baptist, or Nixon because he was a Quaker, or Bush because he is a Methodist. PLEASE, allow each American the free exercise of their religion without trying to persecute them because of it.
I might understand your ire towards my religion if it effected you, but it doesn’t! We are a peaceful people; we are a charitable people; we are a patriotic people – just like the Seventh Day Adventists I know, just like the Catholics I know, just like the Baptists I know, just like the Jewish people I know.
How about we all COMBINE our similar values to do some good in the world (just like with Prop 8 in Cali)? How about we agree to disagree on some theological issues and work TOGETHER to restore our great country to its founding roots? How about we work side by side as patriotic AMERICANS?
If we all work together, we can do some great things.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:40pmThe Jewish minority will pit Christian against Christian, Christian against Muslim, women against men, straight against gay, black against white… all for power and influence. There is no other option for a minority to exert control over a majority. Their weapons are ethnic nepotism, courts, and the media. Who do you think is feeding this media frenzy?
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:50pm@thejerk – I don’t know if your being sarcastic or serious… that was some seriously lame old-school antisemitism. The Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years and now you think they are trying to take over the world. Back off the religious bigotry.
Report Post »father_of_10
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:58pmThanks for your rantings. We need another anti-Mormon bigot to post.
Report Post »cordovamx
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:00pmMormons believe in, and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior – which the underlying fundamental principle to qualify someone as “Christian”. Yes, there are theological differences – and many, many great answers to the questions that you posed (all founded on scriptures from the Bible) – I would encourage you to seek out members of the LDS faith to have them answered. Let’s focus more on what we have in common – a faith in the Savior – rather than attempting to tear another’s faith apart because of something you may not have a clear understanding of. There are so many more threats and fronts to this country that we can unite on.
Report Post »Athinkerinaseaoflibs
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:04pm@ Divided we Fail:
Where do you get this stuff from? I read Beck not as the source but more as entertainment. I also see that you always have to make a bunch silly comments every time anything about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints comes up. In particular, I find your undying interest in what kind of underwear that anyone is wearing kind of creepy.
Yes I am LDS. That being said, I will venture a guess that if you had a practicing LDS as a neighbor, you probably would not realize it unless you noticed that they went to church on most Sundays. You would notice that even though their kids wore much the same styles as the rest of the kids, their clothing would be a bit more modest. You wouldn’t see him on the porch smoking or a bunch of beer bottles in the trash by the street. The list of behaviors could go on and on and you would be hard pressed to find a problem. That is not to say that all Mormons are perfect, we do have our stinkers.
In general what I am saying is: We all have our ways of worshiping Jesus Christ and Our Heavenly Father. I have noticed that there are things that even the most observant evangelic Christian does that is in conflict with the Bible but my response is to work harder to live better myself. I find that those people who have this much venom towards an another group of people often know very little about the group
Report Post »SpencerG
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:08pmChristians are monotheism – not polytheism.
- Christians believe in God, the Father; Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten of the Father; and the Holy Spirit. 3 Beings that make up the Trinity, or Godhead.
Christians do not believe their scripture came out of a magic hat
- Neither do Mormons. The Book of Mormon is another witness of the divinity of Christ, and His teachings. It was written on golden plates, which were translated by Joseph Smith. Eye-witness accounts of these plates, and the translation of the characters/lettering from the plates have been recorded as true.
nor do they believe in magic underwear
- Neither do Mormons. We read in the Bible that God made clothing for Adam and Eve, and that He prescribed special garments to be worn for Aaron and his sons to work in the Tabernacle.
Christians do not believe they evolve into a god like Jesus – even surpassing Him.
- Neither do Mormons. Jesus is our Elder Brother; we are all spirit children of our Heavenly Father. Where Christ went, He went to prepare a place for us. The Father has given Christ everything, and we can have the same inheritance with Christ.
Christians do not believe there are 3 heavens and no hell.
Report Post »- Neither do Mormons. Jesus taught that there are many mansions in His Father’s kingdom. Hell is a special place reserved for those who reject Christ’s Gospel, and who do not repent of their sins.
SpencerG
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:09pmChristians do not believe after they die they fly away and rule another planet in the Solar System as a god.
- Neither do Mormons.
Christians believe in ONE BOOK OF GOD CALLED THE BIBLE.
- The Bible is a collection of books that have been translated. The compilation of the Bible is said to have taken place when Emperor Constantine assumed theological control over the Church at that time.
It is blasphemy to believe in another.
- It is not blasphemy to believe in more of the Word of God, so long as it IS the Word of God.
Christians do not believe that Mary wasn‘t a virgin
Report Post »- Neither do Mormons.
Loki
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:20pmP8riot is correct…
Report Post »People of any faith needs to stand beside each other, christian, jew, pagan, need to stand together, otherwise we will be taken down one by one until we can only worship what “the state” wishes us to worship.
Mr Franklin said it best… “We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”
@leftfighter
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:25pmAmen!
Beck even drew a line between Mormons and Jews today when describing how big of a sleight this was.
I had to laughed at that because this tremendous sleight to Mormonism is… (wait for it…) Levitical law (Lev. 15). Since, as well all know, Mormons claim to be the closest to first century Christianity (which the Church of Christ also claim to be… huh…) and since Jesus came to fulfill the Law, not change it, the Mormons should be doing this.
You read that right! In an odd twist, Axelrod is lying but if the Mormons actually did it, they would be more in line with God’s Law- and they’re crying religious bigotry because someone lied about them doing what the Jews were told to do in Leviticus, despite the fact that they repeatedly compare themselves to the Jews. Irony abounds.
Bottom line: Axelrod is a tremendous douche and is lying about this, but watching the Mormon outrage over this is simply hilarious.
Report Post »DonLukas
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:35pmBeing a “jack mormon”
I can assure you that mormon kids drink and smoke on non-mormons front porches.
(The Blaze, please stop deleting my posts)
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 2:51pm@P8riot Semper Fi again, Brother.
I agree with about 90% of your take there.
Here’s where we diverge: Claiming bigotry about someone pointing the places where Mormonism differs from Christianity is a heck of a lot like the Left saying calling someone a Socialist is an ad hominem attack. DividedWeFail was doing a simple compare-and-contrast of Christian and Mormon doctrines. It’s not a slam if the facts are borne out.
Your religion (which, yes, I believe is an extra-biblically based heretical cult) notwithstanding, you’re right in saying that we need to unite. As Beck repeatedly says, I can stand with an Atheist, as long as we share common principles. We clearly share that.
Report Post »libertylover55
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:08pmIn trying to bash the Church of jesus christ of Latter-day saints, why don’t you go on their websites and find out the truth of what you say instead of going to anti websites? If you want to bash the,at least bash them with their true beliefs. You look kind of stupid to those of us who know what they really believe.
Report Post »Pete
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:56pm‘DividedWeFail’ “Christians do not believe their scripture came out of a magic hat nor do they believe in magic underwear.Christians do not believe that Mary wasn‘t a virgin”
It is obvious that you know nothing about the LDS faith and not much more about Christianity.
Magic hat? Magic underwear? What can be done with this magic? Is this something only uninformed people like you know about? I have never seen any magic performed in the Mormon church. I think you may be thinking of Druids or Wiccans.
I defy you to show anywhere in LDS doctrine that says Mary was not a virgin. She was a virgin in every sense of the word. You are just showing your total ignorance. Maybe you should go back over to the left where such total is the norm.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:39pm@LEFTFIGHTER – Semper Fi fellow devil dog! I do appreciate your perspective because its typically given without that taste of venom that most interject while mocking what I hold sacred.
I’m glad we agree that we should all stand together, regardless of our theological differences.
As for my averment that dividedwefail’s statements are bigoted is not based on his comparisons (even though they are obviously slanted and twisted) but rather on his statement of “I cannot wait to [sic] Romney’s religion to be ridiculed by the left.” Now in all seriousness, can that statement in anyway not be considered bigoted?
Let me quote him one more time: “I cannot wait to Romney’s religion to [sic] be ridiculed by the left.” There are obviously some serious emotional and mental issues for anyone to feel that way about ANY religion – especially a peaceful religion such as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Report Post »Pete
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 4:48pm‘DividedWeFail’ sadly I also just showed my ignorance by mentioning Druids and Wiccans who I know nothing about but folklore. I have never taken the time to learn the truth about them, just as you have never taken the time to learn the truth about Mormons.
It is in our nature to believe without verifying, that is the trouble with liberals and conservatives both. Speaking without facts.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:10pmI can tell by your comments that the nature of your research is half-assed at best and just ludicrous at worst. I suggest if you want to come across as smart that you as a bare minimum put a little bit of effort into actually researching the target of your oblivious hate.
Report Post »winin2012
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 9:13pmThe question I have for you is what does make one a Christian? The answer is:
Report Post »1 Believing that Jesus Christ was sent from God to be the savior of ALL mankind
2 Believing that Jesus was born of the Virgin birth. How she was impregnated, only God truly knows
3 Believing that Jesus lived a perfect and sinless life
4 Believing that Jesus did all the miracles and healing as the Bible teaches
5 Believing that Jesus came to this Earth to pay the price, the atonement, for each of our sins. Past, present and future. Why? To pave the way for all of us to get back our Father in Heaven
6 Believing that after Jesus died on the cross, he rose on the third day
7 After Jesus time on Earth was complete, he ascended into heaven
I believe all those things, and so do all my Mormon brothers and sisters. Do you? I hope you do! Certainly, you and I both believe other things w/in our own churches doctrine, but none of those other things will get us back to our Heavenly Father. BTW, I spent 30 years in Baptist and Non-denominational churches before converting to the LDS Church. I could not be happier in my church and I wish all the joy available to you in yours. Find the similarity, nit the differences. We will all be better off when you do.
Luke611
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 2:20amDividedwefail,…and everyone else on this post who pays a preacher to tell them what they believe…
There is a reason why the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the fastest growing church upon the earth over the last 30 years as noted by the National Council of Churches, averaging over 317K yearly– people like you are our greatest missionaries. The more venom you spew, the more reasonable and logical people wish to hear our truth.
Report Post »You serve Satan well.
kahaha3
Posted on March 15, 2012 at 8:49pmHow incredibly ignorant you are!!!!
Report Post »jujubeebee
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:42amIf Romney gets the nomination we can expect more filth directed at Mormons from the Obama marketing team. If Santorum gets the nomination we can expect more filth directed at Catholics or Christians from the Obama Marketing team. They must be scratching their heads and not knowing what direction to take! Will we continue with the 1% versus the 99% if Romney doesn’t get the nomination? We have to cover all bases now so let’s hit the Mormons this week and the Catholics next week. The public is on to their marketing strategy. What else have they got up their sleeves because this is pathetic!
Report Post »cherishedemblems
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:07pmSo true…but bring it on! Mormons were driven out of their homes and settled the west. Missouri issued Executive Order 44, also known as the “Mormon Extermination Order” that allowed Mormons to be shot on sight. We’re used to this. This is our history and only makes us stronger against these sort of attacks. This is why you want Mitt in the White House…he is tougher than any other in the race. NO EXCUSES JUST RESULTS!!!!!
Report Post »screw
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:37amWonder if David has ever expressed any concern about a Mormon running the Senate?
Mitt Romney and Harry Reid belong to the same Mormon church.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon)
Report Post »MikeinIdaho
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:19amNothing to see here folks! Just another piece of the war on religion by Obama and his communist minions. Move along, now and be good robots! (Look, over there, is that Limbaugh saying bad things about the slut?)
Report Post »Beckster2
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:15amWhooops. Demcocrats religious bigotry is showing…move along folks…nothing to see here….accidental tweet about the wrong story…..
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:18amIf I’m not mistaken, he can delete it if he wants to but it still gets recorded into the congressional record.
Report Post »Beckaj
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:15amLooks to me like a typing crisis. I think, he meant to say, “Wrong URL.” and he had copied the link he put in mistakenly as well.
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:11amdamm these progressives are all about residing in women,s pants…even when they menstrate…pervs
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:06amThis strategy of attacking the faith of the candidate is par for the course and expected — whatever it is — Catholic, Evangelical, Mormon (except Muslim of course). Look what they’ve done to poor Michelle Bachmann, Palin and now Santorum. But none of that bothers me – not enough care anything about that….more important issues and we know they are not going to try to mandate some theocracy. It‘s just that they are desperate and can’t go on Obama’s horrible record so they resort to all others and hope they will “add up” or somehow help – have nothing to lose to try.
Report Post »They are all pathetic attempts that they foolishly think will really work – like the “war on women” that has backfired. Generally speaking, we women could care less about this stupid contraception deal.
I have been praying and really feel like every evil strategy will backfire and only help bring them down & help us win. Everything that is in their “old” playbook that has worked in the past, won’t this time around – or ever again (for a couple of decades anyway).
Maybe they’ll wake up and see this and try to run someone else — Hillary ???? Nothing would surprise me.
Kankokage
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:06amI read that whole story. Not surprising coming from the unbelievably anti-mormon used toilet paper square called the Salt Lake Tribune. That they printed it, however, is not surprising – it’s that Assholerod was reading it. Why? It’s obvious, isn’t it? He’s trying to dig up dirt on Romney. Since there really isn‘t any dirt with him personally that hasn’t been beaten to death, he and the Obama camp are turning to his religion. These people are despicable.
And before you libs say “yeah well you guys went after Obama’s religion!”, keep in mind that Mormons typically don’t scream out G-D DAMN AMERICA in their churches.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:56pmDon’t fret. Americans see what is going on. Axelrod and the rest of those goons have long since crossed the line and may not get back in time to save their souls. THE PROBLEM with the world now
is LACK of GOD. Progressives who don’t believe in GOD have this mistaken idea that they have to save the world…that everyone has to be the same…that only by collective salvation are we saved.
THEY have no CONCEPT of our one-on-one relationship to OUR GOD and that each of us have struggles and things that happen to teach us. OUR GOD isn’t a DICTATOR. OUR GOD doesn’t force us to worship Him. OUR GOD invites us to COME TO HIM on our own…the only way a real relationship can be built. DO NOT expect PROGRESSIVES, LIBERALS, MARXISTS, ET AL to get this… they are the way they are because they DO NOT BELIEVE in GOD. What a loss for them.
Report Post »JabberwockyBandersnatch
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:52amJust speculation, yet I would guess that Axelrod meant to tweet “Writing URS” with URS meaning “user requirement specification” which is what you find when Googling the term URS. The “wring” was probably an autocorrect mistake, and he was trying to be funny with the URS term. I think there is more condemning items to talk about in respect to this administration than this.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:06amPerhaps. Problem is, these guys have a history.
Report Post »Beckaj
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:20amI thought it was a typo for Wrong URL. In his next tweet he says, “this is the correct link”.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:26amBeckaj is right.
Report Post »JabberwockyBandersnatch
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:58am“I thought it was a typo for Wrong URL. In his next tweet he says, “this is the correct link”.
That actually makes more sense than my first conclusion.
Report Post »Obama Nation
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:52amConsidering what we already know about Obama Is a forged birth ceritificate really so far fetched?
I can’t understand why people like Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, Michelle Malkin and S.E. Cup seem to think Obama forging his birth certificate is so far outside the realm of possibilities.
Isn’t this the same man who surrounds himself with communists and domestic terrorists?
Isn’t this the same man who endorses ACORN?
Isn’t this the same man who has ties to the likes of Tony Rezco, Louis Farrahkan and Rev Wright?
Isn’t this the same man who placed people in his administration that have known ties to organizations like CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood?
Yet they scoff at the idea that Obama’s Birth Certificate could be a forgery because why?
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:16amBunch of his relatives are illegal immigrants and have fake IDs, so this is not far-fetched at all.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 12:37pm“I can’t understand why people like Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, Michelle Malkin and S.E. Cup seem to think Obama forging his birth certificate is so far outside the realm of possibilities.”
Quite simply, if Obama & crew forged the birth certificate, they are certainly capable of doing it in such a way as to make it impossible to prove, but it would involve several people and it is likely someone would “crack” and spill the beans at some point. Until that happens, it’s too easy to be dismissed as a wacko and marginalized…
Report Post »audiemurphy
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:51amIf people think the assault on the catholic church is bizarre and unconstitutional just wait and see what this administration will do to Mormons then evangelicals !
Report Post »I knew this would come and axerods oops showed his hand a little early!
mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:45amAlexrod is a communist, which should be outlawed in America. He is also a tool of Islam which should be outlawed in America.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:05amNo Mike, Axelrod is a communist but he most definitely is not a tool of Islam. He is Jewish, and a tool of Israel. He and the former Chief of Staff to the Pres, Rahm Emanuel, are close allies. Emanuel’s father was a member of the Jewish terrorist group, Irgun. Emanuel, who never served America’s armed forces, did fly over to serve the armed forces of Israel… now, you tell me where his true loyalties are.
Axelrod also did not get along well with Emanuel’s replacement as COS, Daley (nor did Plouffe). This, in part, is why Daley was dumped. Daley was replaced with Lew. Emanuel, Lew, Axelrod, and Plouffe are all ethnic Jews, 1.7% of our population. What are the odds?
Report Post »dimbulbz
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:09amOh goody, a real thinker here…
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:44amAnd this is news worthy according to Axelrod? Okay, so during baptism you are dunked in a tub of water so do many in a Christian churches. If the women is on her period I am not sure I would want them dunked in the water either. According to the Bible when a women is on her period she is considered “unclean” also not all women use tampons; I would not want to taint the water for a baptism for this very reason. Why can’t they wait 5 to 7 days? I am not even sure I’d want to be dunked if this was not the case, after dunking 10 or so people that water better be chlorinated holy water.
Now if it was for pouring water over the head while they lean over a tub of water, that is a different story.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:43amJust making sure that the “Republican war on women” lie still works if Romney gets the nomination.
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:00amHigh 5
Report Post »Beckaj
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:23amThat was my thought too.
Report Post »voodoolife
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:38amThis is all by design… Plant the seed that Mormon’s are evil. That‘s all that he’s doing…
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:37amDEMOCRAT Press. If you don’t have a TRUE story to fill space .. MAKE IT UP, DEMOCRAT voters won’t care if its TRUE, that really doesn’t matter
Report Post »cyntro
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:34amLet’s stop and think this one through. Menstruating women go swimming all the time, if the proper products can be used. Very young menstruating women sometimes are not comfortable using these products and in these cases you can not be sure blood will not get in the water. It’s a touchy subject folks but we can still use common sense and not jump to conclusions that condemn a religion. That’s the liberal way of doing things. Not ours.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:26amI went to do baptisms in the temple as a young, unmarried woman. No one ever said anything to me about it, however it was never an issue, not sure how I would have felt about going during that time of the month, I might have been uncomfortable about it and opted out on that day. That said, like I mentioned, no one ever brought it up. This is just one of many ways they try to take something we consider sacred and beautifull and make it sound like it something it’s not. The one thing I can say about being in the temple, it is without a doubt the most peacefull, soul inspiring place on earth, truely a bit of Heaven. It is sacred, and those who try to make it seem otherwise no nothing of which they speak. Now can we get going on getting rid of the man that will destroy all religions?
Report Post »Gratitude
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:48pmI have had the same experience as Jenny Lind. Amen.
These people that Obama surrounds himself with call good evil & evil good.
Now let’s work together to elect the best Republican that we can. I personally like Santorum.
Report Post »angelaisms
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 5:19pmI also did baptisms at the temple as a girl, and thought “no period in the font” was a standing rule, for sanitary reasons. Perhaps it’s something that goes on a temple-by-temple basis. That said, it was something that was always explained in a respectful, non-embarrassing way, away from the boys. Furthermore, those girls were certainly allowed to put on the white clothes and participate in the confirmations. Sounds like someone’s bound and determined to get their panties in a wad, whether they have to make up offenses or not.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:33amHmmm……why does the Obama camp want Romney to be the nominee? What do they know? There must be something more than running against Romney’s wealth with the help of the Occupy crowd. Whatever it is, the lefties sure seem to want Romney……
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/obama-camp-if-election-were-today-mitt-would-win/426896
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 11:01amGoogle “ELI PUBLISHING and F8 LLC” and you will find out.
Report Post »father_of_10
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 1:15pmMaybe there are finally some high powered people that want Mitt to win because they need to make some more money andknow that Obama will continue to drive the economy into the sewer. Sooner or later even teh wall street liberals and teh Hollywood liberals will have to see that a continued depression/rescession hurts their livlihoods too. When no one goes to the movies or buy your products, you run out of money ssoner or later.
Oh, and I googled ELI PUBLISHING and F8 LLC and came with the story about two guys from the MLM firm Nuskin who set up shell companies in order to donate to Romney. All perfectly legal and with SEC and federal election guidelines. Try to make soething out of it if you can, but there’s nothing there.
http://fatherof10.com
Report Post »skiz
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:29amaxelrod is a waste of skin. What a tool!
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:28amOr maybe Axelrod wants to give the impression he is afraid of Mormons or that they run things and so he quickly deleted it.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:49amThat would fit the narrative. He had to remove it because the Mormon hit squads were after him!
Report Post »HKS
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:23amWomen bashing, christian bashing, Mormon bashing, those libs are bashing everyone. Who are they trying to impress?
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:38amDavid Axelrod is another progressive ethnic Jew. I don’t know how many more examples people have to witness in order to see that this fact is not based around the false concept of antisemitism. Jews, as a group, tend to be anti-Christian because they oppose the non-Jewish Christian culture, which is also why they are often viewed as anti-American… a predominately Christian culture.
Report Post »scuba13
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 10:39amThe mental midgets that vote Democrat.
Report Post »noczars
Posted on March 14, 2012 at 3:43pm@ HKS = They are trying to impress bloggers like JERK. It appears to be working.
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