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‘Where Are The Female Libertarians?’

Who is the modern-day Ayn Rand?

This is a question Reason.tv‘s Tim Cavanaugh set out to answer when he recently sat down with Allison Gibbs, founder and executive director of the Ladies of Liberty Alliance during the Libertopia festival in Hollywood.

So, where are all the female libertarians? They may seem to be few and far between these days, but according to Gibbs, the future for libertarian ladies is looking bright:

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  • TonyDarrington
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:58am

    Libertarians in general need to get the message out about who we are and what we stand for. Right now, the public perception is that Libertarians are the crazy militia guys in the Montana mountains who want legal drugs for everyone. We have the message that America, Republicans in general, are looking for. John Stossel, the Judge and Beck are doing a good job of showing Americans that Libertarians are normal people, the rest of us have to come out of the closet and show our colors. Maybe we can finally start filling the state capitals and Washington with some Ls instead of all R and Ds.

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    • TonyDarrington
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 10:55am

      What is in this comment that requires a moderator’s approval?

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    • TonyDarrington
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 12:27pm

      The original comment I made was cut by the moderator. I guess you can’t mention G**n B**k here by name. Really, I don’t swear or talk derogatory about anybody in my comments. There was nothing I said that should have been censored.

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  • capecodsully
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:54am

    The kind of man who chooses a woman who needs to be taken care of, is a weak man. You don’t have what it takes to stand beside a strong woman, an equal partner. It make you feel better about yourself to belittle women. Strong women scare the hell out of you. While I am a conservative,I disagree on one point with Libertarians. I believe America does to a point need to be involved in what goes on worldwide. It is not in our best interest to stand back and let the next Hitler get nuclear weapons.

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    • TonyDarrington
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 10:19am

      Some battles are worth fighting. However, just as the government feels the need to take care of every “at risk” group it can at home, it has been doing the same thing all over the world. We have been inserting ourselves into fights all over the world, arbitrarily choosing one side over the other, sometimes contradicting ourselves in different battles. All this has done is create many enemies who are all now nipping at our heels, just as a pack of hyenas takes down a lion.
      Maybe that is the plan to get the military out of the way. Overwhelm them with countless battles all over the world, so they can’t deal with an attack on the Constitution at home.

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  • poverty.sucks
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:54am

    The libertarian ladies are in the kitchen, gathering around the kettle to stir.

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  • libertarianmom
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:46am

    It’s not so much that women hate liberty; it’s that many women love community. And unfortunately, women see government as strengthening the bonds of community instead of the main cause of its disintegration.

    We have nearly 1000 Libertarian Moms joining in conversations via our Libertarian Moms Group at CafeMom: http://www.cafemom.com/group/3523. Our members are actively raising the next generation of Libertarians. Plus, check out and help support/grow our Libertarian Moms efforts here on fb at: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Libertarian-Moms/107301222633090

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  • foosgoddess
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:18am

    Libertarian woman here! My mom was a depression era child, who was a young widow and raised 4 on her own. No help from anyone but loving neighbors and friends. She was a total conservative, but some how my middle sister ended up a Bush-Bashing, union-loving commie shopper gal.
    How’d that happen?

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    • oldfart
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:42am

      @ lori1776 YOU GO GIRL! You said it correctly! Whether we will admit it or not; Men need caretakers! And good luck with “Little George”, God knows we could use one about now!

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    • Oil_Robb
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 7:30pm

      @FOOS……..Spared the rod?…lolol

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  • Country
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:14am

    I am a woman, and the way I see it is a libertarians has a live and let live outlook on life. I have a live and let live attitude on life in a biblical view point, so I am a conservative who puts God’s word first and that does not go along with being a libertarian.

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    • Oil_Robb
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 7:23pm

      This …PC society …does not allow me to express my thoughts honestly…..to avoid beeing RUDI-ized i will not speak

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  • T.G.momof3
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:10am

    I’m gonna be shot, I’m a traitor! So.. I don’t think feminism gave us much at all. Vote = good, Working outside the home = ehhh? The reason I say this is: what was a choice, has now become a neccessity for many ( thus the feeling that we should get paid maternity leave, because without it you may not have the ability to take time off to have a baby). Being away from home 50 hrs a week tears apart the family, which is the basic structure of our society. But, that is something the proggressives would like, huh?

    I’m with momof5, get the gov’t outta my family!

    Side note ( from experience): so many divorces today right? well, with kids involved that is the QUICKEST way to get the gov’t into the very fabric of your family!

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    • twofoot_trucker
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 6:06pm

      “A neccessity”? Depends on your priorities. If the priority is maintaining a family while at the same time paying for cable, cell phones, car payments, etc., then yea, two incomes may be a neccessity. We did just fine for years on a single income for five years. But we drove paid for vehicles, didn’t have cable, etc. We bought what we needed to live. Did we have a lot of money for extras? Nope. But we had enough money that Mrs TwoFoot was able to stay home with the kids.

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  • janedough1
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:08am

    Ummm, the movement was started by Ayn Rand and Laura Ingalls Wilder’s daugher Rose Wilder Lane?

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  • IMaTELLaU
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:07am

    Wish they would be more outspoken, but that means the MSM would have to cover their cause!!!! And if the women are not spouting bigger government, emasculating conservative men and visorating conservative woman, then MSM got no use for them!!!
    DID she JUST say “ANARCHISM”???? I’m out shes a moron!!!!!!!!!!

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  • AMYMIK
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:03am

    Wow…a lot of men on these posts have simply NOT hung around the RIGHT women! Libertarianism is the ultimate feminism…get the Hell out of my way :) And it’s broad…(excuse the word), you can be a Christian, Pro-life, anti-drug and still CALL yourself a Libertarian, as long as you are able to articulate your arguments on those issues. Women are the key to taking away the bad rap the word “Libertarian” often evokes. We’re also going to be the ones doing the bulk of the word when the economy collapses…especially those of us who are moms!

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  • Rudi
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:02am

    It is important to make the distinction – - Libertarianism is NOT anarchy!!!!!! Not even close.

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  • Marylou7
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:01am

    Here is a female libertarian also. Give me liberty or give me death. Social Security is one thing that should have never been started. In my opinion it has destroyed the family as a whole. Families use to care for their own but now the kids can hardly wait to throw their parents and grandparents into a nursing home and grab their savings. Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself but how can you do that when you don’t even love your family enough to care for them. All government assistance should be cut off NOW. Heck yeah it will be hard for a while but then people will pick themselves up and get on with their lives and prayerfully the way it should be.

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  • hi
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:01am

    I am very surprised at the comments! It seems that you have to belittle women if you are a libertarian? No wonder women aren’t into the movement!! Shame on you for being a bunch of idiot hucklebucks.

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    • bwielgo
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 10:46am

      I am shocked also, I thought the conservatives/libertarians were the smart ones. These posts concern me a little. What I am hearing here is, “We are all about liberty and freedom, but we feel women are ruining our society because they choose to exercise their freedoms and pursue their happiness and ambition.”

       
  • Chett
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:58am

    Proud female libertarian checking in here!

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  • Proudmomof5
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:32am

    I am a proud female libertarian. Yes, we can have emotions and still be a libertarian. I want the government out of my family. Give me freedom!

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  • Grasshopper42
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:30am

    501(c)3 tax exempt organizations. Right there is where the problem starts. Asking the government for permission to do something you have a God given right to do anyway. Oh, the hypocrisy! Bee careful what you say or do, they might take your exemption away . . .

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  • hifi74
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:29am

    I’m bit leery here, something she said struck me as odd. Starting about 5:15 “the liberty movement, libertarianism, or anarchism, or whatever you would deem to call it”. She might be truthful about it, but it still makes me question true intentions and methods.

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    • Highland
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:43am

      I consider myself a “mostly” libertarian woman, but am not an anarchist nor am I sold on the legalization of certain drugs (which seems to be so important to some male libertarians!). I also think Ron Paul is unhinged, though I do agree with him on many economic issues. I think there are a lot of libertarian-leaning women, not so many 100% libertarians, though.

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    • hifi74
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:51am

      Don’t get me wrong I consider myself a Libertarian, it is her verbiage that makes me a bit leery.You don’t just use anarchism in that kind of context, without some underlying notion of agreeance to it.

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  • Rudi
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:25am

    LOL!!!! Nah…my wife actually agrees with me, TXPilot & Eyore! But then again, as I mentioned above there ARE exceptions to the rule. But really…think about it seriously for a moment. I SPEAK TRUTH, NO? :-)

    Come on ladies…can I get a witness here? LOL

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  • ScribblerG
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:20am

    Rudi is on to something but of course we aren’t allowed to speak honestly about the differences between men and women unless men are being belittled. Here are a few facts that WOMEN should concern themselves with:

    1. Drift towards consumerism correlates with rise in women’s economic power. For those of you who don’t know, working women control most family spending. Shopping as a hobby – that’s what women have given us.
    2. The massive increase in consumer debt correlates with the growth of female economic power.
    3. Women are complaining about equal pay STILL – while the current recession has hit men much harder than women.

    I love women – having a daughter, 5 sisters and an ex-wife. But if women want to be equals, then they’ve got to start being more rational. I find talking politics with most women a waste of time because most of them “aren’t into politics” – like it’s equivalent to sports or joining a club. It seems to me that most women are reflexively socially liberal because the ideas appeal to them emotionally. Put another way, show me a man who has scraped and climbed his way to some level of economic success in our society, and he’s invariably not a liberal. LIbertarians are people who apply their reasoning mind to our problems, not our emotions, hence why most women aren’t interested.

    Some advice to the women out there – if any of you even bother reading this – it isn’t good to run your life by your emotions, particularly your politics. Wake up!

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    • Rudi
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:31am

      Great points, Scribblerg. I would also add the whole notion of women’s attitudes towards having paid time off when their baby has been born. Every women I talk to, including my wifey…thinks they “should”. It is obvious to me theirs is an emotional reaction/opinion. Of course it FEELS right…but when you strip away the fantasy and think about what it would mean for your business if you had to pay for someone NOT working….it would change one’s perspective. This emotional need to be taken care of bleeds into politics for many women. Sure, many are conservative….but let’s see how deep their committment is when things like I described above are not allowed anymore. Libertarianism takes SERIOUS thought and committment (Phil Mahr..you’re a poser libertarian BTW!). Not sure how many women are ready for that emotionally. :-)

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    • lovetofly
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:44am

      Hmmm, your comment may explain why you have an “ex” wilfe.

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    • teahugger
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:08am

      @Rudi: I have never worked for an employer that paid me to take time off to have a baby. I got a certain number of “sick” days, which I had to accrue, and then I used them for the time I needed to take with the babies. There is family leave time now, which allows a person to take off time for work for just such an occasion without losing their job…but if you don‘t have the vacation time saved up you don’t get paid. And I can tell you from personal experience that there is some recovery time involved with giving birth! I believe that pregnancy should be treated like any other short term disability, such as a broken leg or a by-pass. It does not make sense for a company to have to go through the expense and time of hiring a new person and training them every time a person had to take a 4-6 week leave of absence for medical problems.

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    • justanamerican
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:24am

      You are SPOT ON scribblerg….. What irks me is that a large % of women that vote , do so almost exclusively based on abortion issues…..!!! Every liberal woman I know , dislikes Sarah Palin….and the one reason they give all the time is, ” I’m not gonna have HER telling me what I should do with my body!”
      It takes two people to make a baby and yet only one gets the “right to choose”……. I am neutral on abortion, and it should be 100% REMOVED from any possibility that our President( whomever he is or will be) have the right or ability to impact the issue in any way shape or form…. that would leave women with their one other criteria for who they vote for……. attractiveness…

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    • Rn mom
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:34am

      Really, you are blaming national debt on the spending habits of women? The few extra hundred or thousand we spend annually on “fluff” doesn’t compare to the garbage men spend their money on. How much does it cost to go to a football game? Buy a hot dog and a beer at that game? and don’t forget the tailgate parties and face paint? How much does hunting cost? I’ve seen men go hunting with guns (laser sighted), camo suits (So the beer can’t see you coming), quads, tree stands, and deer pee… to name a few.
      At least when women go shopping, we come home with stuff for the entire family. When a man goes shopping, it’s usually for stuff for him and his child play.
      Our current economic situation is the result of a “man” controlled government. Making deals with other men in other governments and treating Americans like children- paternalism. Who signed in NAFTA? Who is it that is outsourcing our jobs? Who set up the home loan scam? Men, men, men.
      It really is troublesome when you get your a$$es off of the couch and do stuff.

      BTW- I am responding in good humor here.

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    • rlmeals
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:37am

      I’m a women, I call my self libertarian/conservative, maybe because I don’t fully understand libertarianism. I want the right to choose my own lifestyle and for the government to stay out of it, but many libertarians I know want things like legalizing marijuana and same-sex marriages. I feel like the 10th amendment gives states the right to make laws in those areas, so that if I don’t like it I can stay here in Texas and the dope smokers and gays can go live in California or Massachusetts. But I think many libertarians are hard-core into not wanting to regulate anything at all, and I guess I feel like there should be some sort of balance. For example, (and maybe I’m naive, so if someone wants to give me another perspective, I’m open-minded) if we legalize pot, then why wouldn’t we legalize coke and heroin? I am against the idea of prohibition, and I understand pot is probably no worse than alcohol, but I’m still on the fence about this and think, as stated above, that the 10th amendment takes care of that for us.

      As far as y’alls comments about women, I tend to agree. It is not a woman’s “right” to have paid maternity. I’m a “June Cleaver” type, and although I believe women have a right to choose if they work or stay home, I believe with the choice to work comes consequences. It is not right for an employer to hold a job for someone because they choose to have a baby and continue working. They can’t permanently fill it, and have trouble finding a temp, and then there is the possibility that the woman changes her min after she’s been on maternity leave for 8 weeks. I think the breakdown of the nuclear family is in large part due to the women’s lib movement. I think as a society we were much better off when kids had a mommy at home instead of being shipped off the daycares. The two-income household, in my opinion, is in line with our society’s desires to get more “stuff.” We are very materialistic, we have to have that new care, TV, all the “toys,” the bigger house, etc. And who suffers? The children. What do we teach our children when we dole out our child-rearing responsibilities to some stranger? We give our most precious possessions to strangers and trust them to care for them the way we should, but they will never love our children the way we can. It’s sad, really.

      I have no intention of offending working moms out there, that is your “choice.” But my choice is to stay home and raise my kids. I have many things to teach them, as God instructs me to do. And I am much more satisfied living well under our means instead of being in massive debt. We’ve done that already, and we’re still paying it off. Since I was pregnant with my first, I became a homemaker and we downsized everything. We are much happier with little than we ever were with all that useless stuff. Makes you appreciate the good things in life. Materialism and entertainment are distractions from other things: conversations, time with God, connecting with people and family.

      To sum up, many women are still caught up on all their so-called “rights” instead of taking care of their responsibilities. God created man and woman for different roles, and I’m more than happy to let my MAN go slay dragons and bring home the bacon, and am quite content in raising and loving our children and giving my whole family a real HOME, and not just a house.

      Just my opinion.

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    • Hayeksgirl
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 10:08am

      @RLMEAL, I wholeheartedly agree with your post. I lean libertarian but, I also ponder many of the points you bring up. I am NOT nuetral on abortion, because, if a pregnant woman is murdered it is classified as a double murder.

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    • Citizen
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 11:01am

      rlmeals – great post

      its interesting to see how many women post in here, in years past you would not have seen so many in places like this.

      ona side note folks remember most of us are on the same “side” and how we talk or type to each other is important. If you think this nation is at a very critical point in its history its up to all of us to work together, to help support each other and not make petty comments, its important that if someone does have a disagrees with us we dotn take it personal and we actually listen and try to work as a whole to change this.

      none of us male or female black or white can do anything alone, we need each other, so lets start acting like a team because to be honest our lives may depend on it.

      help each other grow not pull each other down.

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    • Sheepdog911
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 11:20am

      Reading these post confirms to me why we conservatives (Repubs and/or Libertarians) will never be truly in charge until we change the way we group-think. Progressive and other liberal will vote for just about anything, so long as their one pet interest is included. We conservative will reject everything, if our one pet insterest isn’t the focus of something. The same goes for our political candidates, we’d rather not vote or otherwise throw our vote away because he/or she doesn’t fully espouse my beliefs. Guess what? We lose, and the left knows it – hence, Prez Obama.

      Most ot the posts on this article fall along those line. Reading the male (I won’t stoop to call you Men, because men don’t treat women the way you talk about them even if only to try to make a poiint) posts here makes me wonder if you’re all muslim (Yes, your comments are that chauvenistic), and women, you raise to take the bait.

      Oh, and no, just because you won’t like my message, does not make me a troll. Go back and read your own post, and only then tell me that I’m full of crap.

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    • rlmeals
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 11:33am

      @Hayeksgirl: I’m not neutral on abortion, either. I firmly believe that life begins at conception, and it is a complete hypocritical double standard that we classify a pregnant woman’s murder as a double murder, yet it is legal to abort that same baby under women’s right to “choose” what to do with their body. I think morality to a point should be legislated. What I mean by that is: murder is illegal, stealing is illegal, fraud is illegal, etc. I don’t mean morality should be legislated to the point that we start forcing people to live within a set of parameters that inhibits their rights to freely live. Basically, we legislate thing that take away the rights of others. Stealing? Right to property. Murder? Right to life. Homosexuality? Not so much…they’re not hurting me by choosing to live that lifestyle. But at the same time I don’t agree with same-sex marriage, because it is an oxymoron. Marriage IS defined as between a man and a woman, so if you want to defy nature’s perfect union, you go ahead and do it; but if you want the “right” to marry, then you can go move to a state that allows it.

      @Citizen: Thank you. I also think we don’t need to tear each other down. We can have civilized discussion and be polite. There’s really no reason to get snarky with people. I think it lessens our credibility, and really, would Jesus speak like that? Of course, I’m a Christian, so that’s how I think about it. But even non-believers can call upon civility and good manners while speaking with someone. We don’t win people over by tearing them down. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, people!!!

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    • lori1776
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 11:32pm

      You need to stop meeting women at the local watering hole.

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  • anigmanm
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:17am

    joy another group that needs a name and a stage, how about just living life, doing the best you can and not make a spectacle of yourself……..

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  • najahaje
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:13am

    Here!!

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  • benrush
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:11am

    Communism exploits resentment and seeks to alienate those segments of society that can be exploited. They specifically target those segments and exploit them, tell them they are victims, that they are marginalized, etc. A lot of people go along with this world view because it promises them a better life. So when a group comes along that insists a person take responsibility for their own life, it doesn’t get many takers.

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    • middle class lady
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 10:57am

      Your comment is perfect, don’t know what to add to it except to say as a woman.. I’m libertarian, have little fear and know I can take care of myself. I think a career in sales breeds independence, if I don’t produce, I don’t eat. Our founding fathers understood a woman’s desire for security and felt women would relinquish freedom/liberty for security. It took women in the workplace to bring about change and the right to vote.

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  • LibertarianLady
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:09am

    We’re here. Just not everywhere.

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    • Slobaphobe
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 12:19pm

      We’ve allowed ourselves to be silenced for too long. Speak out. T ‘*ell with with what the other ladies think (long one of our probs).

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    • bigdaddybernie
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 12:34pm

      Where are the CONSERVATIVE women?

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  • Hefsmaster
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:04am

    Little sticks do not leave as big of a mark.

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  • Rudi
    Posted on December 11, 2010 at 7:39am

    Ok..I’ll be brave and start this one off. Keep in mind I am keenly aware ther are exceptions.

    1. Women have a deep seeded need to be taken care of. The thought of libertarianism frightens many women.
    2. With that said, just like with me wife…if we can somehow make them think it was THEIR idea…then yeah, Libertariansim will have a bright future.

    1/3 joking….2/3′s serious

    :-)

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 7:42am

      RUDI….Im not gonna touch your comment with a ten foot pole…just in case my wife is around here someplace….lol

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    • Eyore
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 7:45am

      Your Wife is going to hurt you when she sees your comment

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    • fatpatriot
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:06am

      I have been married to the same woman for 33 years and I am the father of 3 grown daughters with family of their own.
      It is my observation that these women are inherently republican/conservative. Mostly concerned with family issues (will you Please take care of the honey-do list), budgetary consequences of deficit spending (if you buy one more gun I’ll kick your A$$) strong defense (that new gun you bought is now my gun) and smaller government(if Momma ain‘t happy nobody’s happy).
      Libertarian as I understand it means less centralized control. like I said I’ve been married 33years. I don’t see it.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:33am

      I can tell you are real popular with the women there Rudi!

      I thought all the libertarian women,(if there is such a critter), were hiding from Ron Paul!!

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    • lori1776
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:19am

      I am no feminist, but I have to say that this could have only been written by a man…
      Women need to BE the caretaker, it is in our nature.
      As for this female libertarian, I am at home raising the next George Washington.
      :)

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    • Rn mom
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:22am

      Rudi, how does it feel to sleep with one eye open? You must be tired! LMAO

      I think most women prefer to talk about issues that are more relevant to them, that effect their daily lives. We prefer to smack talk people we know personally- rather than some crotchity old man in a state far far away. To be honest, don‘t you all feel like your voice isn’t heard until it joins a chorus of other voices when it comes to politicking?

      In addition, thankfully sexism is alive and well, when a woman argues politics it isn’t taken in the same way as when a man does. As we can see from the first few posts, women have their place in this society, and it definitely is frowned upon when we speak our political views.

      Men tend to go for team sports, like football, baseball, basketball, and politics. They are naturally prone to blind admiration of the guy with the right jersey on rather than the guy with the best stats- They will go their their deaths for their chosen team. Things really heat up when a state shares a few teams (ie, NY). Men can fight about the better team for hours and become truly incensed when their team is being put down. They are natural born fans (fanatics). This easily converts to politics, they fight about their “party” with the same loyalty and fervor they do the Yankees or the Mets. So men, I counter, are more prone to the herd mentality, and are easily baited into arguments about their teams- logic and knowledge need not be present for a man to open his yap about an issue he is loyal to.

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 9:57am

      I’ll tell you where they are….they are home cooking my supper, washing my clothes, cleaning my house, and writing long, adoring love-letters praising my manly manliness…..just as it should be!!!! Put some make-up on, will ya……!!!!

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    • Major Infidel
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 10:10am

      The Fat Patriot said it best.

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    • Sinista Mace
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 10:20am

      You want to know where the women libertarians are?

      I’ll tell you.

      They‘ve been assimilated by the Rockefeller funded effort of the Women’s Rights Movement, and have been brainwashed into believing that they don’t need a man, and it has subsequently manifested in the castration of male authority in the household, which is what the communist goal was to begin with, in order to destroy the foundation of American society, the family structure.

      This is where domestic violence, children and family services, welfare, and all these other isidious things which are presented as beneficial and a helping hand, this is where it all comes from.

      It’s all designed to castrate your authority as the man of the house.

      The government wants to be the man of your house.

      And it looks like they’re winning by targetting our women and children.

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    • Citizen
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 10:49am

      ahhh women only 50 percent of whats wrong with humanity lol

      men and womens brains are wired just a lil different, I think that relates to delving into politics as well.
      They also often have a span of years in their lives where it is taken up with having children, who has time for political activism when you have a couple small children at home ? raising good kids is like 3 jobs and that is actually political activism in its own way.

      I hope more conservative women become active and i think you can see it happening even on this forum, then women here often tend to be less snippy (mocking?) than many males, you notice more male trolls than female.

      I also take much from reading their forum posts because they often have more of a chance to bring a perspective to a conversation that is dif than my own, there is a certain wisdom that can be gained from that especially as pertaining to family.

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    • MeteoricLimbo
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 11:59am

      sounds good …why seperate it though. if its good it is good for all. gleen from the older is the design of nature.

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    • bigdaddybernie
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 12:21pm

      Women always vote for SECURITY ,that’s why we have the Volsted act,social security,welfare,the sexual revolution, head start,abortion,et cetera.I agree with you except for the jokes.ALL MEN ARE ANIMALS!

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    • GeauxAlready
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 12:31pm

      I’m gonna swing by the church, and light a candle for you Rudi.

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    • MJ1025
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 12:46pm

      The question is silly. Why would females want or need to be libertarians? What is wrong with being a conservative?

      I believe libertarians believe in practically no rules of any kind. I have listened to John Stossel who says he is a libertarian and he believes almost everything should be legal as long as you are not harming someone other than yourself. You are responsible for your own actions but the fewer the laws the better. Which sounds good in theory. I believe the military is not as important to libertarians.

      I am a female and I am not a libertarian. I am a conservative. I worked my way through college, paid off my loans, and I am not in debt. I own a business with my husband and we are raising two children together. My husband and I work different hours so our children do not need daycare of any kind. I believe in hard work to get what you want in life. I believe you show a person how to fish as opposed to just providing them with fish. I do not believe in the abuse of social programs to teach people to be dependent upon gov’t and not themselves. That is cruel.
      I do think there needs to be a few more laws than what a libertarian would want. I do believe we need a strong military presence to deter other countries who want to destroy us.

      If you want a sexist tone to this: As a mom, I worry about the future of my child more than my own wants and desires. Maybe if men worried about their children’s futures more, we would have less greed, destruction, and needless wars because the men would be thinking more about the future of their children than their own wants, desires, and egos. Just saying.

      Of course, the liberal women like Pelosi and Huffington are mentally deranged or communists or both. Liberal women are insecure and are envious of women who are happy with themselves.

      Conservative women make this world a better place to live. IMHO.

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    • isla
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 2:51pm

      How many definitions does “libertarian” have?
      Intelligent, well-informed women who believe in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the intent of our founding fathers’ designs, are not prone to sign up to some nebulous political label with so many possible definitions, those of which include “anarchism,” and other iniquitous forms of government. The Libertarian Party’s homepage states that they want to “cut all taxes.“ ”Libertarians” oppose ALL taxes, do they not?
      Explain please, to this “intelligent” woman how “no taxes” is possible in a Civilized Society in the 21st century, with demands for Infrastructure? Who is it exactly that the “Libertarian” believes is going to build/maintain roads, bridges, hospitals, etc, without an organized central form of management to collect the funds to pay for said? Perhaps I am ill-informed, but we are a Civilized Society, right? Who is going to pay for Law Enforcement in the Libertarian utopia? I’m just wondering, since I’ve managed to finally have a “thought” And gee, who is going to pay for the Three Branches of government, which are included in our Constitution for equal balance of power. Defense? hmmmm…pretty hard to maintain without taxes. Does the Libertarian Party really believe, as is stated on their webpage, that they desire the elimination of “all taxes”?
      .
      As for me, I’m a “Constitutionalist,” straight down the line. The collection of taxes is mandatory, and until the Libertarian Party denounces the “complete elimination of taxes”, then I will continue to remain part of the “ignorant masses of women out here who only desire to shop, have our needs fulfilled, and stay in the kitchen and serve our man without a troubled thought in our sweet little minds.”

      Give me a “Constitutionalist” party in the truest sense of the word, and I’ll sign up.

      signed The “Next Ayn Rand”

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    • IVillageIdiot
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 5:19pm

      Two points in reply (at hazard of my life…. BTW)

      1. I think women are less ARGUMENTATIVE and usually less CONFRONTATIONAL. Women are way more often “healers” and cooperative solvers in nature. My mother used to always say “fight nice”… I STILL DON’T KNOW WHAT THE MEANS?!??!? Don’t get me wrong, they WILL fight…. over certain things, like DISRESPECT…. But being “Libertarian” is one long fight, battle after battle… within and without… it not just holding the correct positions and opinions or voting correctly. You’ll have to fight YOURSELF most of the time, what’s right what’s wrong, you’ll have to fight your friends, your neighbors, your employer, you family members sometimes, NOT TO MENTION…. every layer of GVT and social order. Its not easy, there is NO finish line. You’re going to get tired, but you’ll not regret a moment of that fight if in the end, you and yours are still free…. In the end, a woman’s main “job”, isn’t fighting, it’s making sure we have new generations of people WORTH fighting for…. It’s MY JOB TO FIGHT, within and without, with the neighbors, with the boss, with the in-laws, with the GVT, with the bill collectors, with Jerk in the other car, or with the various inimical menaces that would enslave the western world hopefully in fields far from our home and our childern…. AND… with anyone or anything ELSE that would come along….. so that SHE’LL will be able to do HER job.

      2. Who is the modern-day Ayn Rand? Sarah Palin, for the most part.

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    • kindling
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 5:49pm

      I am a woman and I agree with you up to a point. I think I would like to be taken care of but I never met a man that was willing to. I think it is because I am so independant and they always seemed to become the woman in the family and I was the one that took care of them. So I guess I am saying it can go both ways.

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    • danyelle55
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 7:04pm

      Right here!!! I am right here!!!

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    • ozz
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 10:49pm

      For the same reason the ruling class fought to give them the vote. Women generally value security over liberty. They needed their votes for security in order to steal our liberty.
      A true libertarian values freedom not only over security but over life.
      Men and women are hard wired differently. As they should be. Only a complete idiot would claim different. But only a complete idiot would not recognize that every human rule has it’s exceptions. History proves both.

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    • trukn101
      Posted on December 12, 2010 at 8:42am

      To mj1025 If you check when truckers buy fuel and you buy gas , you pay state, federal, and sometimes city taxes, that was originally what paid for the bridges ,roads , highways but it got to thepoint there was asurplus andit now gets put into the “general” fund and spent on other projects. it has been shown that a flat tax on everything would be enough to support even this bloated gov.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on December 12, 2010 at 9:44am

      because Libertarians are the most Logical people and
      most women lack the ability to think with logic
      and will never admit to being wrong…hahaha
      signed John Smith….

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    • Imhere2
      Posted on December 12, 2010 at 3:57pm

      Woman have a deep seeded need to be taken care of? Alrighty then! If that’s the case why is that 95 percent of us are caregivers? I have no fear of Libertarianism I embrace it! I proudly stand on my own two feet, walk “beside” the man I have chosen to be with. And while I may not be able to carry as much weight on my back, my legs are strong and the sled I pull out weights most men’s backpacks. I stand humbled in the eyes of my Creator. I extend my hand to those who stumble along the way. I expect only to receive that which I have earned, in “all” things. Don‘t mistake a woman’s understanding for the need of community and nurturing for neediness. We just understand that there is strength in numbers and we hold each other up in times of strife. Many hands make the work load lighter,and Lord knows a woman’s work is never done!

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    • Taquoshi
      Posted on December 12, 2010 at 5:32pm

      To MJ1025 -

      I think your summary of the Libertarian is pretty succinct.

      One thing that the speaker said that threw up that was a red flag was when she mentioned “anarchists” as one of the possible labels for Libertarians. NO. NO. NO. A true Libertarian is not an anarchist. Anarchists will throw the first punch, Moltov cocktail or rock. You get one free punch from a Libertarian, that’s all, my friend. After that, take cover.

      As a Libertarian, I don’t object to laws, as a matter of fact, there’s a bunch of them that I am rather fond of, such as the traffic laws. I like it alot when people stop at red lights and stop signs like they are supposed to. I like it even better, when they stay on “their” side of the road.

      As for taxes, there are different levels of taxation, Federal, State and local. Then it breaks down into different groups after that – property, personal property (cars, equipment) and licenses (driver’s, professional, health, and others),

      I have no problem with most of local taxes because they pay for the services that I use. One neighbor went on a tirade not all that long ago and announced that he thought we should abolish our town government because they didn’t do anything for us anyway. I pointed out that I liked having the police and fire department ready to help out in emergency situations. Sewers? I’m a great fan of sewers, especially when they work like they are supposed to. Having the town plow the roads and my garbage picked up is something that I appreciate simply because I have lived where the town didn’t do it, and I know what having to do it myself involves.

      Having said that, I must confess I am not a fan of the bloated public education system. My parents scraped and saved to send me to private school and I worked my way through college. In our town, it takes up approximately 64% of our town budget, and of that, the lion’s share goes to salaries and fringe benefits. This year, the District’s total budget will be about 154 million dollars. There are parents that demand special services for their special needs children, there are parents who sue the “District”, which is really our town, when their child is suspended from school because of breaking the law (last year, the suspensions included rape, and assault and battery). I object to that because the people involved don’t feel the cost. They assign no value to the services, because they believe they are “owed” all this. Wrong. Libertarians know – or should know – there is no such thing as a free lunch.

      I have some serious problems with State taxes. The state I live in didn’t have State Income Taxes until about 20 years ago when a governor decided that our state should support more education by taxes on cigarettes, a state income tax and allowing gambling. Well, smoking is now nearly verboten in all restaurants, bars, grills, and every public building I know of, so the number of smokers has dropped dramatically. That’s dropped that source of income significantly. The revenue from the casinos has dropped, too. Guess what’s left? And I have a problem with the state redistributing the wealth by allocating X amount of education dollars to each of our towns and cities based on population and need.

      And now the Federal government. Got lots of issues with them. Why are we pouring millions of dollars into Iraq and Afghanistan when our southern border is so porous, it’s a joke. Our citizens are being murdered by illegal aliens and ICE is giving the perps a slap on the wrist as they say “Go forth and sin no more.” The government’s role is to protect US. I’m all for freedom, but we need to deal with our own country’s problems first and then we need to work with the countries that are willing to work with us.

      So, you see, I am not an anarchist. I think everyone who labels or fancies themselves an anarchist should spend some time in a Third World Country where anarchy rules. It’s a real eye opener. And I’ve been in a Soviet Bloc country before the Wall came down. Living in a police state is unbelieveable. You think PC is bad? Just wait til you get a taste of being in a police state. Not fun.

      Being a Libertarian not only means freedom, but also respecting the rights of others. It means taking on personal responsibility, rather than blaming the government or the guy next to you. It means allowing those who have a different opinion or different worldview the right to live peacefully with all.

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    • supergreak
      Posted on December 12, 2010 at 11:53pm

      That is so incredible, horrendously offensive. You should be ashamed of yourself, sir. Someone so incredibly bigoted obviously is ignorant of facts, so I won’t bother with the statistics of independent, educated women versus thirty-year-old men who still live with their mothers and need to be “taken care of” You have the right to free speech, but consider this: attitudes like yours are what make intelligent women vote Democrat.
      Also, I hope your wife DOES read this, you ignorant, misogynistic douche.

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    • ihavejeffersonsdnainmethankgod
      Posted on December 13, 2010 at 8:44am

      hey,hey, now….. it does not frighten me to believe…‘live and let live’, I’ll be the spokeswoman…..I’ve got Thomas Jefferson in me…and four beautiful, intelligent, freedom loving daughters who think the same…knowledge is power, and our freedom and rights come from our Creator……
      (but yes, I do like and need to be taken care of as well, to be completely honest!)………

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    • ihavejeffersonsdnainmethankgod
      Posted on December 13, 2010 at 9:06am

      Hey Rudi…I am here and I am talking and I am female….I am an Art History major and in my history classes this semester, I was torn apart by my liberal professors, albeit it was online, I would dare them to say the things they said to my face….and boy did they not like to hear how I got my maternal DNA test back, and I found that I share the ‘ancient and rare’ maternal DNA as Jefferson, that never changes, that is passed from every mother to her every child!…a dream come true, literally…….they came unhinged!…I had to hear about how the founders were a bunch of evil white men racist, racist, racist, over and over again…then I would get the word from above..‘fire back with both barrels’..and I did…and I was asked to ‘rationalize hitler and the nazi’s…..sure…I can’t wait to find out my grades…I do not care, I will not compromise my first amendment rights for anyone!!!!!

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