Which Four States Say It’s OK For Unions to Stalk People?
- Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:27pm by
Mytheos Holt
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Labor unions are one of the Left’s pushier constituencies. Look no further than the protests they staged outside Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker’s house back in February of last year for evidence:
Now, imagine for a moment that a private individual followed you home and started screaming at your house, or accosting you when you left. Presumably you would go to the police and claim the person was a stalker. And under normal circumstances, you would be right…unless that person is in a labor union and you have the misfortune to live in Pennsylvania, California, Nevada or Illinois. In that situation, there’s nothing the cops can do.
Why? Because, according to a report by the US Chamber of Commerce, every single one of those states has exceptions carved out in their anti-stalking laws for labor unions. The reasoning behind this puzzling double standard is that since employers have a so-called “captive market” when speaking to employees, labor unions have to be free to accost those employees in other settings, even if the employees would rather not speak to union representatives. Never mind that anyone who was thus accosted would probably be more likely to brush off the union.
The Washington Examiner explains the specifics of these laws this way:
The Pennsylvania anti-stalking law states it “shall not apply to conduct by a party to a labor dispute” while the Illinois law says “any controversy converning wages, hours, working conditions or benefits … the making or maintaining of collective bargaining agreements, and the terms to be included in those agreements.”
California has a similar exception for its trespass laws. The Chamber dryly noted in the study that the mere fact that these exemptions had to be written into the law shows how close some union tactics come to behavior that would be illegal in any other context.
And lest you think Wisconsin is any more stringent, don’t kid yourself. Wisconsin actually has an even more bizarre exemption carved out for unions. Specifically, they allow unions to disrupt military activities. Why this should be the case is anyone’s guess, given that the military is not unionized, and most likely never will be unionized. Nevertheless, these carved out favors indicate that the unions are more than willing to do things that many would consider outside the realm of decency and legality. Whether you believe those acts would be justified, however, is likely a matter of irreconcilable ideological preference.
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Comments (127)
2smart
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:22pmI sure would like to see the fine citizens of the States of Pennsylvania, California, Nevada and Illinois stand up and make this group afraid of what you could and should legally do. Look below at what Ranger1965 states and apply the solution. You just need to stand up to them and be sure and vote in November.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:48pmTwo words:::::::::::::::::::::twelve gauge :::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Report Post »patsun5
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:35pmfrom IL WE TRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but with Dick Durbin and chicago thugs it is VER hard to do.
Report Post »LIBERTARIAN T38
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:37pmReason #3,765 why I moved from PA to somewhere in the south. Ed Rendell patented the now ubiquitous Democrat answer to unemployment: put ‘em on welfare forever! They’ll NEVER apply for unemloyment again. Disability, sure, a job? Hell no. Anyone who wants to work will just move out…like I did…
Report Post »Eric Cartman
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:36pmOne Word: Glock
Report Post »9111315
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 12:36amMove out of IL. Go Galt!
Report Post »USAMama
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 3:50amI wonder when that was written in the PA law. I grew up in PA and prob 30+ years ago my dad took on a union boss for harassing our family & actually won! Got the SOB fired (which is no small feat)! My dad was a plant supervisor and his employees were union. I was little so don’t know the details but the guy was calling all hours of the night, threatening the family and stuff. He filled out magazine cards and had our mail bombarded with every kind of magazine, followed my dad around town. It was scary. I knew from the time I was a kid these thugs were bad news! Makes me wonder if it was someone like this jack*** who lost and decided to line some politicians pocket to change the law.
Report Post »rambosharley
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 10:28amI live in the south, if they did that here, they’d only do it once! We the people, here in the south don’t put up with that crap! They’d have so many shotguns in their face in no time! Unions have never been aggressive here and that’s why!
Report Post »Zipit
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 10:56amCARTMAN!!!!!!! I will respect your Authoritah………
Report Post »LibLieExposer
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 11:45pmDetroit Paperboy I have two other words that also apply: Belt-fed. Fscking unions are nothing more than organized crime operating with a government sanction.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 6:24ami agree with detroit paperboy.
Report Post »KURT1010
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 7:20amHoly crap ! What else can happen, it is almost too much to take. Glad I live in Idaho.
Report Post »mlimberg
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 10:40pm5.56…. locked and loaded….
Report Post »LeslieFish
Posted on August 13, 2012 at 7:26pmAren’t you guys forgetting a few things? It wasn’t so long ago that bosses could legally shoot workers for the “crime” of going on strike. Don’t laugh! The old “labor wars” were real shooting wars. Of course, a boss who shot, or ordered shot, a worker was just being a “smart businessman”, while a striker who shot back was a “murderer”. Just like today, when the boss marches into the shop and harangues the staff about politics, religion, and who they should vote for, that’s “free speech” — but when the working stiff chases after the boss and harangues him for stiffing his workers, that’s “harassment”. Get real, folks; we all know that “crime” depends on how much money and power you’ve got.
–Leslie < Fish
Report Post »paprtowl
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:21pmborn wis , glad i don’t live there .
Report Post »marine249
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:31pmme also
Report Post »hugo65hsv
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:20pmLocal Governments are on the slate next and should be taking notice of the mood of an ever growing vocal Conservative Americans.. Enough is enough…
Report Post »ebben
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:25pmagreed, the next line on the agenda needs to be state and local progressivism, and their overreach into our commnities, our homes and our families…..ENOUGH!
Report Post »armyofnibiru
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 12:33amis this why the seiu thugs got away with beating all those black guys who went to the tea party rallys.it wont be long till the govt writes laws that allow unions to shoot and rape anyone who stands in their way.
Report Post »applehill
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:07pmI‘m from Pennsylvania and I just knew they’d be on the list. Their teachers union makes the Auto Industries union look like a kids little league team.
Report Post »unsafe
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:11pmI have family in PA and I sure do believe they shoot first and ask questions later. But there are the fools that think that the union is their friends ( NOT) down with all of unions come and try your crap here in INDY. O wait they did and lost..LMAO
Report Post »calypsocoral
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 2:47amI’m a Pennsylvanian and a (involuntary) union member. When push comes to shove, you can bet I will break rank and show up for work if the union goes on strike.
Pennsylvania does have one great thing going for it– some of the most libertarian gun laws in the country (behind only Montana and Texas, IIRC). If the powers that be start stalking and harassing me, they‘d better remember that I’m armed.
Report Post »Lt_Scrounge
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 8:59pmActually Calypso, the gun laws in Pa are a lot more libertarian than Texas. Not quite as good as Arizona, but still better than Texas. I’ve had concealed carry permits in both PA and AZ and now live in Texas. Arizona doesn’t even require a permit to carry concealed, PA has an affordable permit, but Texas doesn’t even allow open carry. You have to have a permit and it can cost upwards of $200 just to get a permit. Vermont, Alaska, Arizona and I think Montana allow concealed carry without a permit. It’s called “Constitutional Carry” and a lot of states are looking at adopting it. I just wish Texas would. My AZ permit has expired and I don’t have the money to afford a Texas one. As a result, I’m forced to be another unarmed victim. Well at least as long as they stay out of arms reach. Being held up at gun point sucks. Been there, done that. Being unable to adequately defend yourself in that situation sucks even more. Been there, done that too. Having a gun on my hip when someone had the idea of doing something stupid and having them change their mind at the sight of it? Been there and done that too. The guy who was very insistent that we go into the backroom of my apartment during a moving sale decided better of it when I stood up and the 1911 on my hip became visible over the table I had been sitting behind.
Report Post »taxpro4u03
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:06pmThese ‘states’ are sister-corporations of the corporate usa — One has the RIGHT to be let alone. Re: the perceived ‘stalking’ issues— politely inform them they are AGENTS working on behalf of their ‘unions,‘ and continued presence will be construed as a violation of one’s Civil Rights to be let alone — remedied in the Federal courts jointly and severally – perhaps at class action. “Good day.” — Got to know the PROPER way to invoke your right to be let alone… “NICELY.” Reciprocity isn’t the objective. Sometimes we forget when we’re up to our Azzes in alligators that our primary objective was to drain the swamp… Lawfully. Politely. it ‘irks’ ‘em :-) “You’ve already WON!”
Report Post »LIBERTARIAN T38
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:39pmUm, what? Is there a translator in the house?
Report Post »kevinthewriter
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 9:25amI want some of what you’re smoking.
Report Post »StumpyJohnson
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 11:29amUh, TaxPro. are you done drinking or should we come back tomorrow when you sober-up?
Report Post »I’m sorry, but I can make neither heads nor tails of what you have written; please decode it for us.
r’s youz fer or agin union thuggery?
Thank you.
DannyBoy13
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 5:31pmWhat he is saying is the way to handle the situation s to be nice in informing them that they are violating your rights and they will bring the law down on them to the fullest extend possible. Be nice so it doesn’t trip their wires and get confrontational.
Report Post »Larry E
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:06pmSure glad Montana doesn‘t have a law like that because I’d likely end up in jail for shooting one of these pieces of garbage. Fortunately if someone accosts me in a place I may lawfully be, my home for instance, and I feel threatened by them I can use any force up to and including lethal force. That‘s what’s needed.
This is the ONLY way that the left can get what they want, violence and brute force, they sure can’t get it through reason.
Report Post »Impenitent
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:00pmI hope castle law applies in these 4 states
Report Post »unsafe
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:14pmYes PA has the castle law
Report Post »RANGER1965
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:58pmIt is your duty and responsibility to protect yourself, your family, and your property. It is not the duty of the State to do so.
Bullies such as these only respect force. It is a waste of your precious time attempting to reason with people like this. Make them fear you and they will run like the jackals they are. Try to be diplomatic and reasonable, and they will hate you for it.
Report Post »ActionsSpeakLouder
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:27pmAgree.
Report Post »MDECKER
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:29pmI would agree Ranger1965. I think the Unions’ day are numbered and they know it. The unions are going to get a taste of their own medicine shortly and they will not much like it.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:32pmBingo. Just like Arabs. They see negotiations as weakness. All they understand is force…giving it or receiving it.
I really part ways with Beck’s whole Ghandi bit. The world ain’t like it used to be, nobody is going to tell your truth. It will be whitewashed into lies.
Report Post »PoliticalSmackdown {Subscribe & Friend me on YouTube}
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:22pm100% i agree. some Union puke shows up at my door he will get told once to GTFO. and i will not be nice about it.
Report Post »Deepdiver58
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:26pmWhen being polite does not work, then you must do what is necessary to protect your property, yourself and your loved ones. Like terrorists the world over, they only respect, understand, and respond to one thing… power.
Report Post »sparky239
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 11:52amsimply put RANGER…Andthe thought one of those thugs might get shot will make them mess their union panties..
Report Post »Mmaysr
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 8:00pmHard to reason with a moron! You do have a duty and a right in the state of Pennsylvania to protect yourself from trespassers aiming to do you or your family harm. It’s called the castle doctrine.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:55pmI don’t have a problem with it. Let’ return the favor. I wouldn’t mind tracking these rats back to their holes and doing the same. Seriously, let’s just skip the foreplay at this point. The sooner both sides put their cards on the table the sooner this will be over. Sure, stalk me. Then I will follow you home and return the favor. You‘re a thug and you’ll confront me. Problem solved.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:54pmI prefer the smell of burning gasoline and something the Finns names after a hated Russian.
Report Post »jaxson
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:57pmIm a Finnish woman, with sisu, and ill kick all their arses…
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:53pmPRAY ON AMERICA.
the enemy is just stirring at this point, not even flexing its muscles. Be a good time to re watch LORD OF THE RINGS TRILOGY to bone up on what’s to come and to remember WHO WINS and what we need to do to be ready.
DO NOT RISE TO THE BAIT of the left.
STAY CALM WITH OUR EYES FIXED ON JESUS CHRIST.
BE VIGILANT.
PRAY ALWAYS, GIVING THANKS IN ALL THINGS.
GOD BLESS AND PROTECT IN JESUS’ SWEET AND MIGHTY NAME, amen.
Report Post »ActionsSpeakLouder
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:26pmYeah, right, and get run over by a bulldozer. Wake up!
Report Post »jimster
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 10:05amAnd beat your plows into swords.
Report Post »blazingaway
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:51pmCall the police tell them one of the Union people appears to be pointing a gun at your house and see if they come or not.
Report Post »Skrewedretiree
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:59pmIn my location, they would not. But if the Union thugs said I was pointing a gun at them, they would be there with a SWAT team on the double!
Of course I remember these things when called for Jury Duty and when I vote.
Report Post »Skrewedretiree
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:51pmWell, the Unions may have a right to harass me on my property, but I will be happy to show them how unwelcome they are. I hope they don’t mind me urinating on them. I would tell the cops they scared the p**s out of me.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:50pmThese are The GANGSTER STATES!
Report Post »MrKnowItAll
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:49pmWow! Sure didn’t work out well for them, out there Freezing in the Cold. And then getting Shot Down In Flames!
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:45pmTacos for lunch, Tacos for lunch. Mm Mm MMM! Tacos for lunch.
Report Post »yosemitefan
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:41pmHmmm – trespassing on my property and making threats is a good way to learn about the 2nd amendment
Report Post »loweralabama
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:41pmNah… I have a mean dog and an AR-15.. he better stay on the street and not get on my property… we have castle laws here.. he doesn’t even have to be inside…
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:41pmFollow the Union Leader home and deal with the situation. What your upset because the Government won’t do something for you? Do it yourself that’s the definition of independent.
Report Post »Sharon Rose
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:40pmUnions stink for the most part, they used to be good for the workers, not anymore.
Report Post »marcus_arealius
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:39pmUnion thug – meet Benelli, a personal friend of mine.
Report Post »loweralabama
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:47pmgood choice… I can’t decide between Mossberg 500 and AR15….
Report Post »Lisa Caroline
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 1:34pmI prefer the Mossberg…. and so glad I don’t live in those 4 states!
Report Post »lordjosh
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:34pmOh, I’m sorry Mr. union Guy. Did I drop my baseball bat on your head? You were saying?
Report Post »bdandsl
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:33pmI just knew my state, California, was on the list. Go figure.
Report Post »Zombiefilmfan
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:49pmI am right right there with you. Once I read the headline. I also knew my state California would be on the list. Communist haven.
Report Post »Skrewedretiree
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:57pmI am absolutely shocked that Washington State is not on the list, considering the number of Kalipornians that have moved here. But, we shall see.
Back in the 1970s, we had bumper stickers saying “Don’t Californicate Washington State” and variations of that.
I hope the Conservatives take this State this Fall. One thing on the agenda is making Washington a Right To Work State, breaking the stranglehold the Unions have on our lives and economy.
Report Post »Toby441103
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 12:50pmSkrewedretiree, I feel your pain, but we all know Washington is mini-Illinois with “One City to rule them all”.
Report Post »DRsnapper
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 3:43pmall you cali haters ive lived here my whole life (AND THE CRAZES ARE THE PEOPLE FROM OTHER STATES)that moved here .most natives are conservative .native to me =here before 1970 to 80s ,then the libs started there crap. ps you can not beat the weather or the beaches best in the world bar none
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:33pmWhat these unionist thugs need to understand is this: How far are they willing to push it until an armed american responds to their threats with steel, especially when a member of the union strikes the first blow…
As for disruption of the military; the armed forces would be a dream come true if they could get Obama to force the members to join the unions. Then they could use the troops to enforce their own will and wishes on recaliant business owners.
Report Post »Sue Dohnim
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:30pmwell it is social justice, not equal justice, the road to serfdom and highway to tyranny,,,,
Are we there yet???
Report Post »MAULEMALL
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:37pmThank God the second amemdment will protect me when I have to protect my life.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:43pm@MauleMall
Ya trust the Government to allow you to embrace your second amendment rights. Every “unalienable” right has been alienated due to the fact most voting Americans are scared of something so they allow the Government to usurp their freedoms in exchange for the illusion of protection.
Report Post »skippy6
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:55pmWe are already slaves to Obama and his jackboots…..It’s called Obama care……The new big tax……
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