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Which Texas City Is Looking to Implement a Ban on Hiring Smokers?

Fort Worth, Texas, is considering a smoking ban for all city employees — both at work, and at home.

In an effort to lower healthcare costs, the city’s mayor explained: “anything that might benefit the health to make our employees more protective and healthy, we’re going to take a look at.”

CBS DFW explored how locals feel about the issue:

“I think it‘s an infringement on the public’s rights to live their life the way they choose to,” said Vince Chasteen, who has worked for the city for 30 years, and smoked for 41.

“I feel like the next thing they want to do is take DNA samples to figure out if anybody is going to have any kind of diseases going forward,” he continued.

The city is looking to model itself after private companies that have banned the hiring of smokers, like Baylor Healthcare System.  The company’s president, Steve Newton, said that for every dollar it spends on health and wellness, the company saves $2.44.

Fort Worth, Texas Considering a Smoking Ban for All Public Employees

(Photo: AP)

Employment attorneys have noted that, because smokers are not a “civil rights group,” there is nothing they can do to stop the potential ban.  Rather, they should probably get used to it, they say, because it seems to be a rising trend in all sectors.

However, it is not just smokers who are troubled by the measure.

Councilman Frank Moss remarked, “I do have some concerns about a hiring policy that says you would not be able to hire a person that smokes…I think we may lose a lot of good people in the process by excluding smokers.” 

But the city manager says the bill, which will be submitted to his office on May 7, should at least be considered. 

“I think there was a strong belief that not only does it provide financial benefits for us and our health insurance,” he said, but it also allows the city “to work with employees to get in a smoking cessation plan and just not to encourage it by hiring additional people.”

Comments (98)

  • conservativewoman
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:09pm

    A large segment of society wants to legalize Marijuana, yet smoking cigarettes is banned almost everywhere! So one of these days I guess you will be able to smoke a joint in front of your workplace, but not a cigarette!

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    • db321
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:17pm

      I may sound like a good ideal now – but if they can do this they can and will do every they want you to do!

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:25pm

      When they came for the smokers… I said nothing, because I wasn’t a smoker…. Wake up people !

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    • MAMMY_NUNN
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:51pm

      How about a choice to opt out of employer funded healthcare ?
      To even think one of the crops that helped build this nation is now taboo truly unamerican.

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:55pm

      [smoking ban for all city employees]
      This means tax payers will be on the hook for their medical care if they hack up a lung.
      I see no problem protecting tax payers from a future burden because of someones nasty addiction. Don’t like it? Find employment somewhere else.

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    • Leopold
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:24pm

      I hope they will do the same with homosexuals then.

      Their health statistics are quite bad.

      The CDC lets us know that gays make up 2.5 % of the population, but have 64% of the syphilis, and made up around 70% of new HIV cases last year.

      The FBI crime stats lets us know that gays commit a third of all child molestations. We also know that gays have double the drug and alcohol abuse rates as non gay, and they commit suicide at three times the rate as non gays.

      So with that in mind, they must also refuse to hire the obese, diabetics and any other condition that could bring about a sharp rise in health care cost.

      These people are nuts. They will NEVER stop pushing their agenda on the rest of us.

      If it is not smoking, it is saturated fats, caffeine, salt, carbs, sugar etc.
      And of course drugs.

      Oh wait a minute, they want to legalize drugs. Right! Stupid me.

      It seems though they never go after alcohol. Why is that?

      Liberals like their drinks. And their joints. (Hence legalize pot)

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    • drbage
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:45pm

      Nudge the smokers, no one seems to stand up for them and their rights. What if they organize and become as vocal as any other minority in this country? What will they do then?
      If you ban smokers from the hiring process, will you do the next logical step and ban the sales of cigarettes and tobacco products in your town or city? If you do that, how will you pay for the low income infant and children’s health programs which are funded from the taxes on tobacco? How will you replace your city’s share of the sales tax? How will you replace the loss of business from conventions and tourism?
      What will the next nudge be, not hiring people who are not vegans or followers of the Michelle diet(when and from what university did she get her degree in nutrition?)

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    • happ77
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 4:07pm

      Hey Pontiac. I guess we should only hire people who eat 5 servings of fruits
      and vegatables, run 5 miles a day, and get 8 hrs of sleep each night. Take their one a days, eat 6 small meals, and have a V8 instead. Don’t like free countries, find someplace else to live. Like Detoit paperboy said “ first they came for the smokers”

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 5:24pm

      @drbage
      [no one seems to stand up for them and their rights.]
      Where in the constitution do you find the right to smoke?
      If you want the “privilege” to smoke, find a private sector employer that wants to smell your stench and cover your medical expenses.
      The rights of employers should outweigh the rights of drug addicts, don’t you think?

      [If you ban smokers from the hiring process]
      Smoking isn’t a necessity or genetic. A person can’t stop being black or white anymore than you can stop being heterosexual but they sure as hell can stop smoking to get a job.

      @happ77
      If I’m looking to employ a spokes person for Weight Watchers do I have to hire the 500lb whale that has to be winched out of bed? No.

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    • survivorseed
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:42pm

      Look out fat people because you’re next.

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    • StatenJM
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:19pm

      Because it is a state issue I think the have the right to do so for their state. The problem with smoking is that it is not only bad for the smoker’s health, but also the people around them in two ways one is 2nd hand smoke and the second is 3rd hand smoke (which most people haven’t heard of – or at least it isn’t talked about much. 3rd hand smoke can actually be more dangerous than 2nd hand (which is a build-up of toxins that leave residues on clothes, wall, and even emitted by the pores of the smoker)…we know that it causes cancer so it is a problem…and for the marijuana comment smoking marijuana is actually more hazardous then cigs. because it has much more potent toxins in it’s tar.

      Essentially what we are saying when we have people smoking where those that don‘t smoke and don’t want to be around it is too bad you can be at risk for cancer because of my bad habits too…now with that said it isn’t the only thing that is a cancer to society, but in order to regulate these things we would have to give over our freedom which just isn’t the way to go about it…

      I think the best way to go about it is to challenge our neighbors to be healthier not for their sake, but also the people around them. I mean we know smoking causes cancer its a fact so why would you want to create a cancer within yourself and for the risk of others around you…

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    • WeekendAtBernankes
      Posted on April 19, 2012 at 7:21pm

      “I see no problem protecting tax payers from a future burden because of someones nasty addiction. Don’t like it? Find employment somewhere else.”

      Yeah well they’d better ban blacks, diabetics, overweight folks, folks over the age of 40, people who didn’t play sports as children, people born with low birth weight. After all, we have to protect the tax payers from the burden of potential health problems, right?

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    • WeekendAtBernankes
      Posted on April 19, 2012 at 7:22pm

      Ooh ConservativeWoman doesn’t like something, better ban it.

      You sound like a liberal. What a shocker, social con seeks to impose social views on society by force of government.

      Yep, just like a liberal.

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    • WeekendAtBernankes
      Posted on April 19, 2012 at 7:23pm

      Sorry I meant Pontiac, not ConservativeWoman. Kinda takes the fire out of the post :/

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on April 19, 2012 at 10:07pm

      @WeekendAtBernankes
      [Yeah well they’d better ban blah blah blah~]
      Are you seriously going to compare an addiction (intentional and by choice) to a genetic predisposition or something not intentional after I thought I made it perfectly clear the stark differences between them? Wow you’re dumb.

      If you want the job, stop smoking.
      It is not force, you are not deprived of anything, it is a choice.

      I, as a tax payer or employer, am in no way required to employ you or coddle you because of the choices YOU MAKE. I advise you to start your own business and hire all the drug addicts want if you don’t like it.

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  • socialism.rocks
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:04pm

    next will be genetic tests done… if you have genes that make you have health issue…. no employment..its going to be great….
    leading cause of cancer is car polution anyways… and a virus called hpv….
    dallas seems to be ran by christians it is the christians who created the american lung association-
    christians are the ones who banned booz… the ones who demanded the war against drugs… and tobacco its funny how a small minority has such power

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:00pm

      funny you are so far off it is absurd. oh yes we evil Christians with our disease creation skills and lobby to stop everything right? not that lovely communism and socialism that likes to control everything its Christians ya thats it,. all that peace love an freedom is so evil. you know I am a Christian smoker from a Jewish family of Dr’s. My family all smokes, yep still in this day and age and as medical professionals. You are an ignorant fool.

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  • Silversmith
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:03pm

    This is ridiculous. This is a free country. You cannot discriminate against a group of people who are not doing something illegal. You tell them they can’t smoke here, then here, THEN EVERYWHERE; and now you want to tell them they can’t WORK HERE, IN TEXAS????? Such a pile of cr@p and so wrong. I cannot imagine it will happen, but then again look at DC.

    Silversmith

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    • Silversmith
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:10pm

      How long before you lose everything because you don’t fit a particular eugenics profile?

      SLIPPERY SLOPE.

      Silversmith

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    • gopowers
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:23pm

      @Silversmith, you’re right – it is a free country. Somebody that lives in Fort Worth and pays taxes, I can tell you that what they are doing could be a good thing. Fort Worth isn’t taking away any of your freedoms, you are still free to smoke in FW, they just may not want you working for them and receiving insurance.

      Personally, what FW is doing may be a little heavy, how about saying something like, “If you work for us and smoke, we can’t provide you with health insurance”… That way, you still have the choice to work for FW and smoke.

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    • Silversmith
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:43pm

      @gopowers — How about drinking? How about any high risk sport? How about if you drive a vehicle classified as “sport”? How about if you eat meat? How about if you have already had a heart attack?

      Everyone is having problem with health insurance, and the answer is not in the restricting of activities by the people. Free is free, anything less is not free. The answer is on the supply side of health insurance. Think about what the natural evolution of what you suggest entails. I promise you, Washington already has.

      Silversmith

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  • Nickallsopp
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:57pm

    You know? I’m not a smoker, but I’m getting really fed up with everyone telling people how to live. I grew up with smokers, my mother is a smoker, every man shes been with was a smoker, it’s nasty habit and like most other i hate it, but when people try to force others to sway their way it tends to piss people off, if our Gov‘t continues to pull the crap thay keep getting away with i won’t be suprised if a new civil war breaks out. When you start walking over your supporters and followers and stomping on those who opppose you, thats how revolutions start. The Gov’t better be carefull or their plans just may back fire. “THE FRENCH REVOLUTION.” Deja vu anyone?

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:04pm

      I am a smoker and I appreciate your sentiment. usually the people that are most offended by my smoking are the big gals. that is what really gets my goat my smoking is bad when I still run 10 miles a day and run a farm but they can sit around all day snacking down the big macs and no one can say anything because its taboo? want to bet how many of the city workers that don’t smoke are fat, alcoholics etc? they want to lower insurance costs why not dna test everyone? why stop there how about only hire people under the age of 40? this country has gotten to power hungry and I am tired of it. you have it right right many of our countrymen and women are getting fed up

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  • k53lh
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:56pm

    Pretty much sounds like the beginning of Hitler’s rein to me.

    Remember the Hospital somewhere in Texas that will no longer hire people who are *obese*.
    Just saying here, it always starts with one group and then finally everyone is caught up in one group or another than is banned.

    Texas hospital reportedly bars obese workers — and it might be legal
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/05/eeoc-texas-hospital-that-bars-obese-workers-not-necessarily-discriminatory/#ixzz1rCGLubTI

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:23pm

      Thats because it is.Hitler was a rabid non smoker.Went after smokers with a vengence.The only difference between then and now is the fact that the secret nazis imported after the war and some of the home grown have had to lay low.This isn’t a joke everything you are seeing has already been done before.Its a true set up for the holocaust.American style.They have an even bigger hatred for us now.Remember we defeated them before.We still had citizens who could think for themselves and wern’t afraid to speak and act

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  • AllSmyles
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:49pm

    But yet many liberal cities are allowing homos to have sex change operations at tax payers expense.

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    • Silversmith
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:06pm

      Nice that they’ll be saving healthcare money on a smoking ban to spend on gender reassignment RIGHT???

      Silversmith

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  • COFemale
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:45pm

    I can see banning smokers at work from smoking while on the job, but you can’t take it too their home. That is their domain. As much as I hate smokers, I am allergic and get violently ill sometimes or my airways swell up blocking my breathing, I have to tolerate it when teaching. I’ve got some students that smell like they bathed in cigarettes and rubbed ashes all over themselves. I would love for the school to ban smoking on campus completely, however it does not prevent them from smoking off campus.

    Those who smoke at home and you can tell the ones who do just by smelling their clothing, I can see raising their premiums and lower those who don’t smoke.

    Right now I’d be happy just to have a job. I become fully unemployed on 6 May. I did not pick up any summer classes to teach and pray that I get some in August. In the meantime, I am on the hunt regardless what happens in August. My outlook because of my age is not promising as employers don’t generally like to hire seniors.

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    • mccracken
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:52pm

      What are you doing home at 1:45?
      Why aren’t you out looking for a job?

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    • junior1971
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:01pm

      Texa$$= The land of the free. The last stronghold. The alimo. What a joke!!!!

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    • Alydia
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:04pm

      ” As much as I hate smokers, I am allergic and get violently ill sometimes or my airways swell up blocking my breathing, I have to tolerate it when I am teaching”…

      So, do you hate smokers or do you hate their habit?? I, for one, do not believe people have such an allergic reaction to cigarette smoke.
      I also do not think that smelling smoke on people causes such trouble…I know cigarette smoke stinks but please allergic reaction??
      People need to quit smoking so that the revenue will dry up and then it will be passed onto the people that don’t smoke!

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    • whatdoibelieve
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:12pm

      The problem is they have to provide healthcare for their employees. It is a contractual obligation with the city union. However, hiring smokers is not a contractual obligation. And it isn’t as simple as just charging them a higher premium because the portion taken on by the employer is significantly larger and also contractually obligated.

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:39pm

      @alydia
      Was that a statement of what you think there intent is or what you would like to see?If its their intent I tend to agree.However I can tell you it won’t happen.People who work in the tobacco industry would just as soon light there money on fire than see it forked over to a bunch of non smoking despots.For that matter they would just as soon die than give up there money to a non smoking despot.If the god forsaken despots try it they will find themselves in shall we say real trouble.Doctors who want to act like nannys or our parents get paid the way we paid our parents.Nada zip zilch zero.If they want to get paid then they can grow up and act like adults.Otherwise they will have a lot of problems paying there morgage electric and cable let alone there fancy car notes.I can see it now.Well ,sir madam .why havent you paid your bill ,you do still work don’t you?Why yes ,but I’m not recieving payment.Well why is that you are a doctor?Oh wait a minute you were the one that wouldn’t shut up and allow your patients to be the adults that they are.I understand.On phone now.Hey stan can you cut uff service to ________ and make it in double time.Oh another nanny state doctor ,sure right on it.Morgage time the same but they only get half the time to bring up the arrears.
      All it would take is a few of them to experience this for their attitudes to stop.

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:59pm

      I see R.J. Reynolds is hiring.

      https://www3.apply2jobs.com/RJReynolds/ProfExt/index.cfm?fuseaction=mExternal.showSearchInterface

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  • pack10man
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:41pm

    How about health care insurance cost for employees potential for HIV/Aids??

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    • socialism.rocks
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:01pm

      hpv is the leading cause of cancer they sure will not tax it because women mostly have it and give it to men

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    • rockstone
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:07pm

      Good one! What the libs gays never figure out…. until it’s way too late of course….. is that they are next on the list.

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 3:51pm

      @socialism rocks
      How old are you?If you are public schooled and underage your ignorance could be dismissed and my rant directed at your teachers or even your parents for sending you to the he((hole called public school system or in the very least not doing anything to mitigate it.
      I’ll take it that you are a adult.You are blind as bat ignorant.Hiv and Hpv aren’t the same virus.Furthermore men spread the virus just as much if not more than women.Women are tested for it at their annual.Men aren’t.Hpv also has one of the largest genotypes of all the viruses.130 different varietys.Everything from the common wart to sexually transmitted type.
      Its also usefull to know how the virus works for some for another reason.It shares certain treatment stratigies and survival stratigies with other non family viruses.Certain encodements and process are similar to or even identical to other non hpv viruses.
      Learn here
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wart

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  • beau111
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:41pm

    This is a Good thing! Many companies do this already. It keeps health care costs down for everyone if there aren’t smokers in the mix with serious expensive health problems due to their addiction. And they will likely be more productive workers, even working for the government.

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    • Debbie0819
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:52pm

      One thing to remember….one might not like smoking..but if you give anyone an inch they will take the mile….next is a DNA sample, a scale to weigh in, check your high blood pressure, take a blood test for sugar…and the list goes on and on. In a “free” society, you cannot have it all ways.

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    • Debbie0819
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:55pm

      Beau I hope you are not overweight, have high BP, sugar, or high cholesterol because you are next on the list to ban for working for the City or in Business…..

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    • Dancing_In_The_Ruins
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:02pm

      Legalized fascism. What’s next? Meat eaters? People who listen to conservative talk radio? People who watch T.V. ? Blonds because they’re stupid? People with freckles?

      Sounds good? Welcome to Germany circa 1938.

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    • Dancing_In_The_Ruins
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:04pm

      Debbie0819:

      Welcome to The Island.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 2:24pm

      Other things that affect a worker’s productivity and insurance costs that are none of your employer’s business:

      Not going to bed on time
      Not eating healthy meals
      Not exercising enough
      “Going out” on Sundays or weekdays
      A long commute to and from work
      Having children that attend school/daycare outside the home

      So what do you think they should tackle next?

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    • fightinggranny
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:28pm

      First they come for the smokers, then the obese, then the disabled, then the old…
      It has nothing to do with premiums, it’s all about control and relinquishing your freedom, before
      they TAKE it from you. Have you looked at the legislation over the last 8 years, the Patriot Act, NDAA, Net Neutrality. Open up your eyes. This is all about control.

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  • janete66
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:37pm

    They want to ban what you do at home…..well, there goes all the cool sex you been having. This is a bit too laughable, better get rid of the porn magazines. Throw out the empty beer cans in the dark. Does alcohol consumption and poor diet contribute to poor health???? Better dump out the fridge.

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  • FedUpAlready
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:37pm

    To bad we didn’t have ban on hiring smokers, who could become President and stink-up the WH. But, of course no regulations will be brought upon the Demorats and their Criminal Enterprises.

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  • HKS
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:36pm

    Since government is the business partner with tobacco companies, (and making the lions share of the profits I might add) this makes no sense. Must be the liberals, they just can’t see the forest for the trees. Would this not have to be declared illegal first? If they can do this, what else could someone decide to outlaw on their own? This society has so many slippery slopes it renders all the laws toothless and useless. You just can’t let liberals run anything, look at the federal government, case rest.

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  • Echelon
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:34pm

    Next, submit DNA testing to determine if you are predestined for any future ailments or diseases! That should cut cost even more. Minority Report – one step closer!

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  • THX-1138
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:34pm

    “Employment attorneys have noted that, because smokers are not a “civil rights group,” there is nothing they can do to stop the potential ban.”

    That’ll change soon. All they have to do is use the Americans with Disabilities Act. Everyone else has…

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  • Firebrand
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:32pm

    First they came for the smokers, and I said nothing. Then they came for the fat people, and I stayed silent. Then they came for the alcohol drinkers, and once again I stayed silent. Then they came for the coffee an soda drinkers, the cheese burger eaters, and the video game players….etc.

    Vat ve take frum unt provide vor you is vat eez best vor you, no? Ve think eet vould be een your best interest eef you comply. Ve vill NOT ask again, unt you vill conform.

    I think you get my point. The road to hell will be a smooth ride…

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  • maynardb61
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:31pm

    Ban democrats from all decision making positions, so we retain our personal freedoms.

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  • susie4dy
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:29pm

    Obama smokes! Why is it okay for him to smoke in the WH? OH He is ABOVE the laws in this country!

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  • jackact
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:27pm

    Hmmmm… Let me guess.
    A liberal sanctuary city perhaps?

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  • LeeR47
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:27pm

    This is the beginning of the end. If they can compel you to buy health insurance (for our greater good), they can dictate what we do at home (for our greater good). America was nice while it lasted…

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  • lukerw
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:27pm

    Smokers spend too much time smoking… are distracted… and are lazy… said a UPS Manager to me! Really, the perfect Worker… would be a Robot… or a Slave!

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  • Obama Snake Oil Co
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:26pm

    As I have posted many times, when you create and allow things like this, its not the smokers that get burned, it will effect you as well. I hear they pay a little more for health insurance. Fine, right? Ok, they test you and find you have chloresterol that is high, you price is going up. Its santioned now based on what is being done to smokers. Remember when they were no allowed to ask you about you medical history? Sorry Mr Jones, since you father died from a heart attack, we cannot hire you as you are too much a risk. All of these laws against smokers, don’t forget this, will come to bite us all in the end. Fast food? Figure it out, its not that hard, nanny has spoken.

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  • youdidthis
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:25pm

    obama Zoning the ocean
    http://www.drudgereport.com/
    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=50880

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  • youdidthis
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:24pm

    atorney obama admits fraud
    http://www.bing.com/search?FORM=BABTDF&PC=BBLN&q=atorney+obama+admits+fraud&src=IE-SearchBox

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  • NutterButter79
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:24pm

    I’ve come across many businesses that have posted “non smokers” only in their ads.
    Gotta wonder how long it will be before some guy with a cancer kazoo files a discrimination suit
    because McDonalds wouldn’t hire him.
    Smoke on my friends…even through your thrayche hole. Don’t laugh….I’ve seen this.

    Businesses should be able to choose who they want to hire and why or why not they get the job.
    This is still America right?

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    • SmashingGood
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:34pm

      “A smoking ban for all city employees” idiot, not businesses.

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    • Firebrand
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:38pm

      Absolutely businesses should have the right to hire who they want. If the insurance companies charge more for smokers and the business doesn’t want to pay the elevated insurance premiums, they have every right to be picky in order to save money. The issue is where do you draw the line?

      I think the point most people are arguing here is the over-reach into our personal lives made by government, not businesses.

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  • MittensKittens
    Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:18pm

    as long as they ban, gays, lesbians, blacks, hispanics, drinking, welfare queens, morons, and DEMON-CRATS

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