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White Church Bans Black Couple From Getting Married

Outrage and confusion have followed media reports that a black couple planning to get married at a church in Jackson, Mississippi, were turned away because of their race. Charles and Te’Andrea Wilson were set to get married at First Baptist Church of Crystal Springs when some congregants successfully pushed to ban their nuptials.

The invitations were sent and the bride and groom were preparing to exchange vows — and they received the disturbing news just two days before the wedding. The pastor, Dr. Stan Weatherford, was told by congregants that no blacks could be married in the church and that, if he conducted the ceremony, he would essentially lose his position.

Although they are not members of the house of worship, the couple said that they attend regularly and, prior to the incident, they felt loved by the mostly-white church body.

“The church congregation had decided no black could be married at that church, and that if he went on to marry her, then they would vote him out the church,” said Charles.

“[The pastor] had people in the sanctuary that were pitching a fit about us being a black couple,” added Te’Andrea.

While Charles and Te’Andrea were disturbed by this treatment, Weatherford, too, claims to have been taken aback. The pastor ended up performing the wedding at another location and he has spoken out about his congregation’s handling of the situation.

First Baptist Church Bans Black Couple From Getting Married | Charles and TeAndrea Wilson“This had never been done before here, so it was setting a new precedent, and there are those who reacted to that because of that,” Weatherford explained. ”I didn’t want to have a controversy within the church, and I didn‘t want a controversy to affect the wedding of Charles and Te’ Andrea. I wanted to make sure their wedding day was a special day.”

While Weatherford wanted to avoid scandal, it seems this story continues to make waves as it spreads across America. In the wake of the incident, WBRC-TV reports that the church is looking into how to handle subsequent situations (i.e. black weddings) if and when they emerge in the future.

In the end, Charles and Te’Andrea got their wedding, but the couple aren’t happy about their race preventing them from exchanging vows at the church. They also have some tough words for the congregants — including the pastor (who did end up marrying them at an alternative location).

“I blame the First Baptist Church of Crystal Springs,” said Charles. “I blame those members who knew and call themselves Christians and didn’t stand up.”

Members of the church have come out and apologized to the family and denied that the house or worship embraces racist sentiments.

(H/T: WBRC)

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  • NewLife56
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:20am

    Earth to “First Baptist Church of Crystal Springs”

    I belong to a Southern Baptist Church in Kentucky, we not only would welcome that black family, we would go get them and marry them. We even have (SHOCK) mixed race couples there, and I love my brothers and sisters no matter the color.

    All you did was disgrace the word of God because of; yes I’m saying it because of “Racism” And please don’t give the argument that God wants us to marry our own kind, he just said it would be wiser and easier to marry those who believed as you do”

    The Southern Baptist Convention now has elected a Black President, the first time in history that has happened, and they are trying to right many wrongs in the churches history. And the man didn’t get the position because he was black by the way, he got elected because he was the best choice.

    To the First Baptist Church of Crystal Springs, repent and get over the Race thing, ALL are FULLY equal in Gods Heart.

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    • afishfarted
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:49am

      I agree in this day in age, such bigotry in America is nearly unbelievabe. But I have to wonder if the congregation isn’t taking the book of Esau just a bit too far. I pity them. You have to read it to understand what I mean

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    • moreteaplease
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:00am

      Totally agree!
      This is the kind of thing that gives Christianity a bad name.
      The actions of the congregants do not reflect God’s Word in any way. My church has black couples, mixed couples, Philippine, etc. and they are some of the nicest people you would ever want to meet.

      Do these people think that there will be three entrances into heaven labeled “Whites Only”, “Blacks Only” and “All Others”?

      I wonder how long it has been since they really thought about what John 3:16 means? Or perhaps they should take a look at Acts 8:26-40 for confirmation that God is not prejudice against any who seek His salvation..

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    • Truth in Christ
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:00am

      We may have different Nationalities, but we are all of the same Race.. The HUMAN RACE, no and‘s if’s or but’s about it. The deciding factor on what skin tone someone has is based on how much or how little Melanin you have. Just like different hair color, or eye color doesn’t make someone a “different race”.. neither does skin tone/color.

      @Votebushin12. Stop twisting scripture.

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    • tearin4242
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:03am

      WOW votebushin12–that verse is WAY WAY out of context. That verse is talking specifically about spiritual belief not race. Jesus clarifies this in the New Testiment

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    • ARSILHOUETTE
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:03am

      #VoteBushin12 If you want to quote the bible at least use it in the right context. That passage was for the Jews not to marry with idol worshipers. It had nothing to do with race. It is people like you who give Christians a bad rep by false teachings. As for the pastor who caved in to the bigots in his congergation, SHAME!

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    • JQCitizen
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:04am

      VOTEBUSHIN12:

      It is clear to anyone that what God was talking about were Unbelievers, not race! He was talking about those who would pull us away from HIMSELF, not our RACE! If that is so, why did the same God allow for people to convert to the Israelite Religion? THAT is in the OT also, is it not?

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    • weremoose
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:12am

      @VotinBush,
      I‘m sure you’re a troll, but here I am responding anyway. That command was given to the Jews, to prevent them from marrying the pagans who lived around them. It says so even in that scripture which you took out of context. Even Jesus had a Godly Moabite woman in his lineage. Two believers of any race may marry – do not call unclean that which God has made clean.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:17am

      @votebushin12: here are your words: “Interracial marriage is as deplorable in the eyes of God as same sex marriage.”
      ———————————————————————————————
      Haven‘t the vaguest idea what you’re talking about. Nothing was said about interracial marriage.
      But, for this church to forbid a couple from getting married because they were black, is beyond the pale. And these so called “christians” plan to get to heaven?
      So many churches are “empty” of God’s Loving Grace. No wonder so many people are falling away from “the church” but hopefully, not falling away from God.

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    • boomboom
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:27am

      Hey, @VoteBushIn12:

      Take another look at the happy couple, dumbazz.
      They’re BOTH black.
      What’s that about intermarriage again?

      Hey ChurchPeople!
      BeOnTheLookOut for the devils’ own hiding in your own flock too!

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    • Sunny10
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:37am

      Congratulations to this beautiful young couple. I am so sorry they had to endure such a trial before their wedding. The pastor did the right thing to make it about them and their future. Sometimes we have to shake of the dust and move on to another location.
      How sad that some of the members of this church are like sounding brass and have not the love of Jesus in their hearts. What I do know is God is happy that they married rather than living together. I hope they set their hearts, minds and soul to look to God and not man, who will always disappoint us, and He who is merciful and full of kindness and grace will direct their path. God’s blessings to them and the pastor, who took a path less traveled.

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    • mils
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:41am

      See as I am not a christian, i think the whole thing is offensive.. TO BEGIN WITH…THIS IS NOT A MIXED RACE COUPLE..
      the people in this church that are raising a stink…this type of people are the very reason we stopped going to church. The gossip, the meanness, the ‘my family is so important here” attitude…
      This couple was not asking any of the white members of the church to have their child…join them in a sexual act on the alter…they wanted to be joined together in marriage in a church they attend …they were good enough to sit by, take their tithe, breathe the same same air.. but not to celebrate their union..
      DISGRACEFUL!. That church needs to sit down with it’s conscious and have a talk with their god. Racism in one of it’s most hurtful forms.

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    • themmd
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:53am

      To VoteBushin12:
      I think it is fair to say that your understanding of Deuteronomy 7:3-4 is off as you are making the classic error of taking the verse out of context. God was commanding the Jews not to marry the pagans of the land they were to occupy as their influence would corrupt the Jews and lead them away from worshiping God. To claim this verse is about race and not pagan worship says a great deal, not about the verse but the nature of the interpretation and the heart of the interpreter.

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    • sWampy
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:55am

      This really has been blown out of the water, it was a horrible thing, done by a couple of families, that were pissed, that they didn’t get their cut of the wedding, not the color of the skin. There are a large number of blacks that attend the church, sing in the choir, etc and have for decades. The woman that started it, runs the florist, shop that those having wedding there are required to use, and she got pissed when she was informed someone was getting married there without using her flowers. My sister was married in the same church, and I was told my wife couldn’t be her wedding photographer, she had to use the “official” one. I really think Stan threw in the race thing just to shake it up because he was pissed at these “power” players telling him how to do his job, and was disgusted they would stop a wedding scheduled for the next day. There was a long history of past preachers, crossing these people, and finding themselves on the street the next week.

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    • aceboogie
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:58am

      @votebush2012.

      You sir are an idiot. Those excerpts have nothing to do with interacial marraige, but interfaith marraige. The Lord did not want his people to fall in to following the gods nor faiths of others, which is why he forbade his people from marrying those that did not follow Him. Your selective reading comprehension reveals the depraved mind of an ignorant bafoon.

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    • muffythetuffy
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:21am

      More To This Story

      Did they just show up at the church? If arrangements were made for the wedding with the Minister how could this misunderstanding have happened. Are they Baptists or were they just trying to start an incident. Non Catholics can marry in the Catholic Church so where is the rest of the story.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:21am

      Thanks for the detail on that, Swampy.

      I was having a bit of difficulty believing that a Christian congregation could do such a thing based on race. You have made it a bit clearer, but no less inexcusable.

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:39am

      A good pastor would have married them in the church and lost his position. We either stand up for the word of God or we don’t. There is nothing in the Bible about race, we are just commanded to marry fellow followers of Christ. And I am sick of those who twist the scriptures and say that black people have the mark of Cain or are decendants of Esau. Hello, they were wiped out in the flood! We all came from the same place, decendants of Noah. And we are all covered under the same blood, that shed by Christ!

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:44am

      @ Swampy

      Thanks for the info, however, this is still not how God’s house behaves. Reminds me of a story that involves Jesus and a whip. You know “Den of Theives”.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:51am

      Good grief! This is no Christian Church if this is true. I want to find out and will post their mailing address (or some address) so those of us who are horrified by this ignorant action on the part of some can be erased by wedding gifts from strangers. I hate hearing stuff like this. I would be so out of that church. HOW DARE ANY CHRISTIAN CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIAN AND DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ANOTHER OF GOD’S CHILDREN BECAUSE (AS MLK SAID) THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN. ARGHHHHH!

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    • sensibleadult
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:55am

      I do not believe the whole truth is being told in this story. It sounds like something the radical left would fabricate in order to trash Christianity. It reeks.

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 12:03pm

      This reminds me of another story I heard of a church that refused to marry a couple because they were living together. This made no sense to me…Yes lets punish them for their sin, by stopping them from doing the right thing. Let’s keep them “shacked up” and stop them from getting married.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 12:13pm

      I’m sorry but you Christians who want to ban gay marriage have nothing to say to these people.

      It is their “belief” that those two shouldn’t get married. Who are you to judge their beliefs?

      I think in 2010 46% of Republicans in Mississippi said they wanted to ban inter racial marriage. Should they be allowed to do so because it is their “belief”?

       
    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 12:16pm

      Okay, I went and investigated and something is not right. Then I thought about it, these people weren’t member of this Church…but! they said they’d been attending this church…that means the church was NOT all white….. So I’m going to move slowly on this. The Pastor was very interested that
      no one get hurt on this. The article said many people who attend the church didn’t know about this incident. I want to see what the truth is.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 12:21pm

      @PATTY HENRY

      No, but let’s discriminate against them based on their sexual orientation right?

       
    • loriann12
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 12:22pm

      I attend a Southern Baptist church in Garland TX, and we have black couples, mixed couples and even share our smaller chapel (as opposed to the big sanctuary) with a Hispanic church. Sometimes we have combined services here the Hispanic pastor preaches with an interpreter, and we sing songs in Spanish.

      This church doesn NOT represent any Christian church I know of. My husband and I were just saying how can someone call themselves a Christian and be prejudiced?

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    • makamae
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 12:28pm

      Fishfart – what the heck is “the book of Esau?”

      It’s not in the Bible… perhaps this is where the problem partially lies – using extra-Biblical guidance for spiritual matters.

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 12:56pm

      @ Moderation
      There is a BIG difference, between a church making an individual decision not based on any scripture they supposedly follow and the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT saying this marriage must be accepted when it violate ACTUAL religious teachings. I personally have no problem with gays marrying. I do have a problem with the GOVERNMENT telling me that I must accept it as equivalent to a marriage. The GOVERNMENT saying that there is no legal difference between a man and a woman. The GOVERNMENT saying that I must accept gay marriage in violation of my beliefs. Think I am exagerating, look at Chick-fil-a, they took a stance according to actual Biblical beliefs and a state GOVERNMENT tried to stop them from doing business because of their beliefs. I am not against gay marriage, I am for leaving marriage alone! I don’t want group marriage or incestrial marriage or whatever they come up with next. Do what you want in your own home, but do not push for the GOVERNMENT to officially sanction your actions in order to impose them on others.

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    • sWampy
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 1:14pm

      Marriage was created to give incentive for stable 2 parent families to stick together and raise kids, since all of history has shown us, that is the best way for kids to be raised. Gay Marriage is to allow to mentally ill people that are actively abusing each other, to get a tax break created to advance society and use it to aid in it’s decline.

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    • Aslan
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 1:36pm

      @Mils: I’m sorry you were put off by having encountered such un-Christian behavior. Not all of us are like that, in fact I would say the vast majority are not like that at all.

      The church is supposed to be more a hospital for sinners, than a country club for saints. I am appalled that that specific church body would act in such an immature and un-Christlike manner.

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    • Wayner
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 1:38pm

      There were 2 women of different (religions,,, races) in Jesus’ Davidic bloodline… Rahab the Canaanite harlot and Ruth the Moabitess.

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 1:38pm

      Please don‘t say that the last two posts aren’t based on hate.

      It‘s not a disagreement that you’re saying.

      You compared homosexual marriage to incest and the next person called it a mental disease.

      The government should have no place issuing any marriages at all.

      If marriage is truly a purely religious ceremony, then the Government shouldn’t be sanctioning it.

      They should revoke all marriage licenses and issue all couples a civil union(gay or straight).

      If a religious couple wants to get “married” in their church, that is fine, but it won’t be recognized by the State.

       
    • black9897
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:01pm

      Very sad. There‘s no place in God’s house or word for banning someone for their color. Just what we need more of, dividing us. The one place we should be able to come together is God’s house, no matter what color you should be welcomed. This “church” needs to go join westboro.

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    • black9897
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:24pm

      @MODERATIONISBEST

      I personally don’t believe in banning anyone from getting married. I actually don’t think Government should be involved in marriage; it should be left up to the church like it was supposed to be.

      I do think gay marriage is wrong morally speaking. I also think it is ok for churches to not allow gay marriage. Why? Because that’s actually based off of the Bible, not based on hate. Allowing gay marriage in the Church would be condoning sin which would be wrong. There’s nothing wrong (Biblically speaking) with other ethnicities marrying or people of different ethnicities marrying each other. So their “belief” has no Biblical basis, thus making it wrong.

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:26pm

      That pastor is spineless for moving the marriage to a different location to appease congregants, and he needs to call to repentance all those in his congregation that were opposing this marriage on the basis of race.

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:28pm

      @ sensibleadult

      “I do not believe the whole truth is being told in this story. It sounds like something the radical left would fabricate in order to trash Christianity. It reeks.”

      Yes, but to me it’s more like something this current administration would set up to continue the racial divide that is growing in America. There needs to be enough fuel on the pile so when the spark ignites it, it’ll grow to a roaring blaze in a very fast and short time. Major civil unrest could be used to suspend elections and this well could be a part of adding that fuel.

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    • sWampy
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:28pm

      ModerationIsBest It is a mental disease, it has been recognized as one for thousands of years as one, it’s no longer listed so in medical journals for Political Correctness, not for scientific evidence. The only reason it isn’t anymore is a bunch of make up data by the pedophiles at the Kinsey institute, who abused babies, paid parents to abuse their kids, used child molesters as their models of normal. There is nothing Christian or loving about promoting the abuse of children or adults. Go google for the children of table 34 go read http://www.thepinkswastika.com go read the writings of Sigmund Freud while a proponent of homosexuality, he certainly didn’t make any bones about what caused it, and how to increase it’s presence.

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    • mils
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:46pm

      ALLLLLLLLL of this needs to be brought to the notice of the powers that be in the baptist church…the church is not suppose to be a business…per se…

      if………………………@SWAMPY
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:55am
      is correct….then someone higher up needs to step in….

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    • mils
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:50pm

      AAAAHHHHHHHHHH YES…THE “REAL” CHRISTIAN THEOLOGIAN SPEAKS OUT…PLEASE READ..AS HE IS INTERPERTING FOR US..YOU KNOW , ACEBOOGIE KNOWS IT ALL, AND has a direct line to right and wrong…and his phrasing of calling people ‘idoit”…mymymy….touching..

      ……..@…ACEBOOGIE
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:58am
      @votebush2012.
      *******************************
      PUKE…

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    • Man-On-A-Mission
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 3:17pm

      Glade to see someone with a head on their shoulders….when will white America fully embrace blacks as being Americans and loving the same things that we all share…..Life…Liberty, Family and Freedom. We’ve been fighting every war fought here side-by-side and would not think of living anywhere else. I do not believe a black Church would ever deny a white wedding.

      The last place you should ever find racism is in the Church.

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    • mtcountrygrl
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 3:41pm

      @ Moderation
      Please explain to me the difference between gay marriage (two consenting adults) and two consenting adults who are say brother and sister who want to get married. That is what I meant by incestual marriage. Both are between consenting adults, both are counter to procreation, and both are against the 3 major religions. What is the difference? Same goes for plural marriage? I do agree with you on one thing, the government has no business being involved in marriage. Look what “no fault” divorce has done. Marriage needs to go back to being a contract under traditional terms, not just visiting rights, etc. You violate the terms of the agreement (honor, cherish, forsaking all others) you forfeit right to the joint property and blessings from the marriage. Nothing makes me angrier than some cheeting spouse that tears apart a family, then comes back and takes away the kids and the house.

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    • UPSETVET
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 4:13pm

      I blame the pastor for not being informed of the church’s protocol. Surely he must have had some reservations about marrying a black couple in a white church and should have taken in up with the deacons before agreeing to perform the ceremony.

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    • AMERICANVOICE
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 5:02pm

      Our church is the same NEWLIFE56 and we are in the SOUTH! Imagine that! And Southern Baptist’s are all racists- what a lie from the pit of hell…we have a wonderful black associate pastor and I am telling you, he is one of the most godly men I know!!!

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    • Kathleen
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 5:37pm

      I can’t believe that sort of thing still goes on.

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    • Oldmantex
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 6:23pm

      Patty Henry is correct. Something does not add up in this article. I think it best we wait and see what actually took place. Members saying they were not aware of it happening, couple has been attending the church without issue, even members calling and apologizing. Don’t hang the whole congregation out for a few idiots.
      If it took place as the articles states, the pastor needs to go anyhow. What kind of faith did you display by putting your JOB over this couples marriage. He should have done what was right and had FAITH God would take care of him.
      Ministry work is not about a JOB or PAY CHECK or How many members you have on Sunday, its about spreading the word of God to all who want to hear and believe.
      But Ill give it some time still, something just doesn’t add up on this one.

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    • debvos
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 6:37pm

      Bless you, Well said!!

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    • Macman1138
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:48pm

      The cry of racism is the first for Bl ack s when they encounter anything that they don’t like.

      I’ve heard it all before.

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    • BeeDee
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:07pm

      Since we are all descended from Noah, we are all brothers and sisters. What this church did is a disgrace to the christian community. Maybe they need to spend a little, no, scratch that, a LOTmore time reading the word of God and seeking Him, instead of rejectng people for no good reason. To my brothers and sisters in Christ who have experienced this type of treatment, I pray for the peace of Christ to be with you.

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    • maverick4harlot
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:30pm

      I shouldnt need to preface this but I feel the need to. I am white. I believe in GOD an Jesus.

      Two of Herod’s sons were Herod Philip and Herod Antipas. Herod Philip married a woman called Herodias. When Herod Antipas visited his brother, he wanted Herodias for a wife for himself. So Herod Antipas divorced his own wife, and married Herodias. She, of course, had to divorce Herod Philip first. The Jewish law does not permit such behaviour (Leviticus 18:16 and 20:21). John the Baptist said this was wrong. When he did this, he made Herodias very angry. So Herod Antipas ordered John’s arrest. http://www.easyenglish.info/bible-study/jesus-life/herod_and_john_the_baptist.htm

      John the Baptist did what was right yet… “The pastor, Dr. Stan Weatherford, was told by congregants that no blacks could be married in the church and that, if he conducted the ceremony, he would essentially lose his position.” I THOUGHT that Baptists followed John the Baptist an his teachings. While it is only my OPINION, had I been the pastor I would have told the congregation just how wrong they were, I would have given the couple a choice… Get married in this church with locked doors to try to avoid problems, get married in this church with doors wide open but expect the possibility of problems or move to another church or venue as they did. Personally as John did i would have choosen the doors open policy and welcomed the controversy. GOD bless the couple. May they have peace in Jesus nam

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    • wefischers
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:57pm

      Just when you think something like this was a thing of the past here it is rearing it’s ugly head. Yes, racism is still alive and the saddest thing of all is that it’s in the Body of Christ. The Bible said of Jesus, “he loved them all.“ ”We are all one in Christ Jesus.” I was thinking about how so many folks voted for Obama because of his skin color. This was also racism. He was not elected because of his ability to lead. He had never so much as run a lemonade stand. On top of that he we knew already that he had socialist leanings and now we find out after he’s nearly ruined the country exactly what he meant when he said, “fundamentally transform.” He claims to be a Christian and said to say he’s gotten this far because of his skin color. People of all races voted for him because of skin color because he was going to be “the first” but now it turns out he’s “the worst”. I hope people will pray and ask God what he thinks of Obama’s take on killing babies, gay marriage, and his incessant lying. How can anyone be a Christian and get away with that? How do people let him get away with that? Is it because he’s buying their votes with welfare? Foodstamps? Unemployment, etc. Brothers and sister, we are going to go under if we don’t work and take pride in our nation. God help us.

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    • jthoma8318
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:49am

      Book of Esau? Sorry that one is not listed in the King James Version. There is a reason it is not included in either the Hebrew or Christian Cannon.

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    • jthoma8318
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:06am

      What happened to my post

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    • supermansdad
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:04am

      @makamae

      The book of Esau is a chapter of Genesis.

      http://www.fpcjackson.org/resources/sermons/genesis/genesis_vols5and6/37aGen.htm

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    • LWFriend
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:39am

      because i am still seeing comments that must not have seen this one, i am going to repost this one:

      SWAMPY
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:55am

      “This really has been blown out of the water, it was a horrible thing, done by a couple of families, that were pissed, that they didn’t get their cut of the wedding, not the color of the skin. There are a large number of blacks that attend the church, sing in the choir, etc and have for decades. The woman that started it, runs the florist, shop that those having wedding there are required to use, and she got pissed when she was informed someone was getting married there without using her flowers. My sister was married in the same church, and I was told my wife couldn’t be her wedding photographer, she had to use the “official” one. I really think Stan threw in the race thing just to shake it up because he was pissed at these “power” players telling him how to do his job, and was disgusted they would stop a wedding scheduled for the next day. There was a long history of past preachers, crossing these people, and finding themselves on the street the next week.”

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    • rickc34
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:32am

      Only one race the Human Race, do not judge a man or woman by the color of their skin but by their words and deeds. This is wrong to deny them to be wed because of skin tone. We are all created in the image of God and all are loved by God , even though not all love God.

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:33pm

      I‘m wondering if this was her or her husbands second marriage because I can’t see a christian church refusing to marry a couple based on their race. I can see a church refusing to marry a couple in which one of the couple had already swore before God to love another till death do they part.

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    • Mohawk77
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:36pm

      I am not Black but this is disgraceful that anyone would object rather than celebrate their loving union. If the objecting members don‘t quit em masse’, they are immoral hypocrites. Hey Pastor, why don’t you boot the racists out? Even if one objected-boot them out. Worried about your job? Do the ceremony and then dare them to fire you! In fact, raise money for their Honeymoon. I’m in. Show some stones or stop being a paster. Send the racists back to their trailer home and point out this is not the KKK (or is it?).

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    • GdHUs
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 5:27pm

      Yes, NewLife repent indeed. I woundn‘t give you a plug nickel for a flock that rules it’s shepherd. When did you ever see a prophet in the Old Testement knuckel under to evil kings of Israel? Wheatherford should have stood firm and said,”Thus sayeth the Lord!” and let the chips fall where God wanted them to fall.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:19pm

      Okay, this is racist. I am ashamed of these people. I have more in common with the newlyweds apart from skin color.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:25pm

      VoteBushin12
      My grandfather, who I loved deeply, shocked me one day by saying “if God meant blacks and whites to marry, he would have made us gray.” I was stunned by hearing that from him, even at the age of twelve. Ironically, that is the one quote of his I remember verbatim. That IS NOT our country or our values. I was proud to serve in the military and in civilian life with anyone who will pull their own weight. That is my standard. And I am sure that Jesus would be down with that.

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    • speedy7201
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 12:53am

      I’m with you. I am a white Baptist & I am shocked that a congregation would turn someone away based on color. I would bet that the Pastor has a LONG sermon come Sunday concerning his flock. Luckily, I DO NOT believe that this is a common practice in ANY church these days. How can someone calling themselves children of God, let this come into their lives? Was the devil working overtime or were they just plain stupid and Bigots?

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    • spidergimp
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 12:53am

      my wife and I are white and. we were married in an all black church. The pastor of this church is a dear friend, and he is black. the congregation …was exstactic !!! they loved every minute…true christians

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    • Oldbutnotsenile
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 12:49pm

      I feel this action demonstrates the lack of real Christians parading around with evil desires in their hearts. How dare they call themselves Christians. In reverse I have a small tale to tell. I live in a small town and we have a black student from the University comes to sing tenor in our choir. We then take him to his church. Upon arriving there one Sunday, this black woman walked up to my car and said “point blank” to me, YOU DO KNOW THIS IS A BLACK CHURCH. I thought all churches were open to anyone who wanted to attend. Is that not the Christian teaching? These types of incidents are happening way too often.

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  • Magyar
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:19am

    GOD’S people have NO color! The LORD was watching— The congregants of this church along with the Pastor acted most unChristian.

    Shame on them.

    I‘m glad I’m NOT a member of that church.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:53am

      .
      Christ would have welcomed that couple.
      Those Baptists call themselves Christian?

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    • ultor-de-deus-exercitus
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 1:45pm

      Christian?
      I agree with what seems to be the overall sentement expressed by many on this issue, I would howver remind all that the termonology of “Christian” is subjective not objective when it considers the behaviors of others and not our own. In other words it is a slipery slope to engage in percieved evil when God knows the outcome before the game of humans even gets played.
      Just a thought, but the wrong doers are who I have lerned to pray for as the wronged (meek) have recieved the blessing of his inheritance. To bash the wrong is to avoid lending the other cheek.

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    • Tracker3
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:07pm

      What color is a soul? This is a question for the racists.

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    • circleDwagons
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:28pm

      The pastor should have married them and then quit his job or even better stay and fight the evil

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    • mils
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:40pm

      baptist appear to be pseudo christians…

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    • ChappellGirl5
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:04pm

      @Secretsquirrel “Those Baptists call themselves Christian?” There’s a saying out there that says “going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car”. A lot of denominations only preach God’s love & tolerance & not His justice & righteousness. Which basically says that all good people go to heaven & forget to mention the necessity of having a personal relationship with Christ based on admitting your sinful nature asking forgiveness. This is one of the main reasons I steer clear of denominational churches & I was raised Southern Baptist. Give me a Bible believing, non-denominational, independent church any day, one that teaches Truth.

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    • midwesthippie
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:30am

      …i think the nazi’s and most slaveholders were “christian”…

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  • Bamabelle
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:19am

    These are children of God, not to mention members of the church congregation. It is ok to attend but not to marry? Leave the church now, they are not of God for the members do not preach the true gospel. The minister himself job or not should have stood up for what is right. When we are asked to stand up for Jesus in the last days, what will you do? I live in Alabama and if racism like this is found so blatant in a church I definitely would stay away from that church, black or white.

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    • Magyar
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:30am

      Yes indeed!

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:41am

      BAMABELLE, I hear you on that. I cannot understand this church’s decision especially in this day and age.

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    • kadster01
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:42am

      If I was the pastor, I would gladly sacrifice my job at that church in order to do the right thing by God, not by pious, hypocritical bigots in the congregation. Disgraceful!

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  • watashbuddyfriend
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:18am

    I CAN believe it! This couple made this move to get attention, and cause trouble for themselves, and the First Baptist Church, and others.

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    • kadster01
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:44am

      And you know this how?

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    • RRFlyer
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:22am

      So getting married in a church you attend is trying to get attention? Nice words. Of course I couldn’t expect less from a racist.

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    • sacklunch
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:10am

      Wrong. That’s exactly what you are doing making idiotic comments like the one you just posted.

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    • LeadNotFollow
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:35am

      …
      Good Christians would not have gone to the media with this story, and drawn all this negative attention to the whole church and the decent church members, who were not involved.

      Good Christians would have remained humble and just walked away from this church, then asked God to lead them to a better church.

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    • mils
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:49am

      yeah, and you’re such an expert on “good christians” and what they do…bull pockey…
      GOOD CHRISTIANS STAND UP AND ARE COUNTED DAILY…THEY STAND UP FOR THE RIGHT AND WRONG IN LIFE…AND THIS WAS “WRONG’…
      No, you do not turn your back and walk away,
      this was an affront that the baptist religion needs to deal with.

       
    • kadster01
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:51am

      @LEADNOTFOLLOW

      Apparently, there were enough church members involved to threaten the pastor’s job. That would, I think, take quite a large majority to pull off. None of us is Christ and are all fallable, but to blame whomever went to the media for being treated unjustly is missing the point entirely. That’s tantamount to letting someone just punch you in the face and then you walk away without seeking justice or at least telling someone about it. Would you do that?

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    • minorityconservative2
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:54am

      The best disinfectant is sunlight. I think they did their own version of tell your brother why you are upset with him and if he will not hear you then take some others and if he will not hear them then tell it to the congregation. They let congregations across this country know what our brothers and sisters in CHRIST were doing. They did not sue them. Nothing will change unless they are shamed into changing and they should be ashamed. Their is neither Jew nor Greek. If you want to keep churches’ scandals under the rug then you are part of the problem.

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    • LeadNotFollow
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:16am

      …
      The Bible says:

      But I say unto you, that ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

      And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

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    • sWampy
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 1:27pm

      @kadster01 Only takes a few, when one is a nationally known lawyer, famous for representing child murders, and those accused of civil rights murders, another that made millions off the savings and loan crisis, that pull all the strings. Sadly churches today run more like corrupt corporations and a lot less like charities than they did 50 years ago.

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    • watashbuddyfriend
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:08am

      And @kadster01
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:44am

      “And you know this how?”

      I know HOW, because of ther ones, like yourself, raise your head!

      Maybe, they had already CLEAVED together, and became ONE, before they approached the WHITE CHURCH?

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    • minorityconservative2
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:41am

      @leadnotfollow
      You take the Bible out of context. You can’t make it fit what you want it to mean. It does say that things you said but not in the way you said them. In both instances it is saying to do these things to non-believers. Matthew 18:15-17 says what you do when a believer sins against you. Your examples talk about what to do when an evil person hits you and when non-believers do not want to hear the gospel. They do not apply here because all involved were believers.

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  • Stilt
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:16am

    I hope this couple does not let their special day be ruined. I watched John haagee on tv once and he said to his congregation ” if you can’t love and welcome all Christians to this church, move on. We need your seat.” it’s a shame this pastor did not show similar courage. Most likely, and I’ll assume here for a moment. Like most race issues of today a few loud mouths assuming the roles of leaders and intelligent people shouted down the majority who are afraid to speak up.

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:32am

      I don’t get the point of kicking people out to get people who already act the way you want them to. Isn’t your job as a pastor/preacher to bring people to Christ, rather than just sit around with people who already are, or am I off base? The “my way or the highway” might drive more of the flock into the wilderness rather than shepparding them to greener fields, right?

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    • Stilt
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:20pm

      Good point. Perhaps a base or starting point” or previously covered area and referring to those who refused? None the less Christians should support each others regardless of race.

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  • PATRIOTMAMA
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:15am

    That Pastor should have stood up and did it anyway. Should have admonished his church and then go on to preach a message from the bible regarding brotherhood in Christ and how it doesn’t discriminate. Then he should have said that if you want to fire me because of this then, fine, I don‘t want to lead people that don’t follow the teachings of Christ anyway!!! I recently left a church because the elders and those that ran the church didn’t actually take a stand against things (not quite this bad but still) and LEAD their churches. This makes me feel better about my decision and disgusted that people like this are out there claiming to be Christians when all they are really doing is misrepresenting and disparaging Christ!!! How dare you?! Make no mistake, for God will NOT be mocked. That whichever a man sows that will he also REAP!!! Just remember you will answer to God Almighty for this. Disgusted. My heart and prayers for healing go out to this couple. God Bless you and your marriage. I’m glad you were shown the truth of the church you were attending before it was too late and you were further influenced by these false Christians!!! Blessing in disguise!!!

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    • Conservative New Yorker
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:20am

      Well stated Patriot mom!

      And a leader is supposed to LEAD when faced with opposition and/or when it isn’t “popular”. I know our pastor (a strong conservative, for you libs who salivate at the prospect of slamming both Christians and conservatives) would have stood up to these bigots and married the couple. Our congregation would have stood by our pastor too. Christ taught us to love one another.

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  • Constructionist
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:15am

    To be fair, the pastor probably attended this church for 20 years and never noticed or heard any hateful, racist remarks before this. We’ve already decided that excuse is plausible, right?

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  • DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:13am

    Jackson is a college town – the University of Mississippi. I’m very surprised to find this attitude exists there.

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    • Locked
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:16am

      Don’t be. I live in Florida, and the University of Florida in Gainesville is one of the largest universities in the entire country. Know what else Gainesville is famous for? Terry Jones, that pastor who holds annual Koran burnings.

      When you have a city with a large university, it separates the city into those who are involved with education and those who hate everything to do with it.

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    • ConservativeWithABrain
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:41am

      University of Mississippi is a 3 hour drive from Jackson. The nearest school is Mississippi College, a small, religious school in nearby Clinton. I would hardly call Jackson a “college town.”

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    • Bagui
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 3:00pm

      The University of Mississippi is in Oxford, 3 hours away, but has its medical school there. Jackson State University is the well-known black institution that had some of the first computer servers in the state back in the 1970′s. There is Belhaven (Presbyterian), Millsaps (Methodist), & MS. College (Baptist, & 1st coed college in the U.S.), and Reform Seminary, among many others, including Hinds Community. This particular Baptist church has political issues stemming from a very few families, and that can happen in any organization, including the misogynist issues happening in atheist & humanist organizations , even Muslims (all covered in the news and get real, other humans!!!) Don’t any religious, atheist, or agnostic person forget that human nature is vilified in the Bible as easily going into the toilet, or bloodshed, with little provocation. The Bible does not hide proclivities of man, and genocide is an ultimate marker for their extremes. When God wipes out a group, it is because that groups’ every thought is evil, and doesn’t bother to help the helpless, kills the defenseless. We already have world wars, civil wars, bloody religious wars, and war on the unborn. Time to pay rent!!

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    • ConservativeWithABrain
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:03pm

      I was referring to Mississippi College, and to be fair, I forgot about the Ole Miss satellite school there. The remaining schools, compared to the size of Jackson, are insignificant. I grew up in Mississippi, and graduated from Mississippi State University. I have never heard Jackson called a college town. You’re more likely to be murdered in Jackson than to get a college degree in Jackson.

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    • DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:11pm

      CONSERVATIVEWITHABRAIN – oh, soooooooo sorry. I was confusing Starkville and Mississippi State with Jackson and OleMiss. Haven’t spent that much time in Mississippi.

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    • TimmyWin
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:46pm

      Why are you even talking about Jackson? The story is about Crystal Springs, which is an hour South of Jackson, on I-55

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  • MarianF
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:09am

    What on backward earth is this congregation thinking? Any man and woman who want to marry should be celebrated and supported. What kind of racist idiots attend this church?

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    • lvamervet
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:22am

      Ditto!!!! But, the article claimed that MOST that belonged to the church were white.
      As usual……. Is there more to the story? CNN??????????????

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:11am

      I could understand it IF and this is a BIG IF, the church had a policy of only letting members use the church for wedding ceremonies (as many churches do – mine included we have people of all colors as members too) however, since it seems that was not the case – the “church” and the pastor were wrong. I suspect that those who made such an unBiblical fuss have now brought God’s curse upon this church and they will not prosper.

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    • Bagui
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 3:15pm

      Individuals are the issue here, and please don’t paint a broad brush of generalization due to people who have unjustified control of a “church”. We can’t say all Muslims hate non-believers, because that does not fit the politically correct climate of our nation, nor are we permitted to say that gays & lesbians hate the Cathey Family & Chick-Fil-A for maintaining a stand they believe fits an original biblical narrative. What brings out the hate toward bigots is something inside ourselves that says either I am better than these people, or I have to be careful not to fall into diametrical hate for others, when I don’t agree with them. Jesus compared the religious hypocrite who commended himself by condemning the tax collector, to the tax collector could not face God for his usury & treachery. Jesus said the tax collector was truly forgiven for recognizing his own sin, and pleading mercy on himself. When I post on these forums, I have one finger pointing to correct, but 3 fingers pointing back to me.

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    • watashbuddyfriend
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:00am

      @MarianF, what constitutes Marriage? When a Man and a Woman CLEAVE together, they become ONE! Gen…. So, maybe they had already cleaved together before they exposed themselves before the posting of this BLOG????????

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  • Countrygirl1362
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:09am

    What a horrible group of people that would take this stand.

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    • randy
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:23am

      If this Pastor is too afraid to stand up to a few congregants of his church, how the heII can he be expected to take a stand against Satan?
      He’s either,
      1. A wishy washy Christian,
      or 2. Just as racist as his congregation.

      I vote #2.

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:05am

    southern democrats strike again

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    • DOra Glasberg
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:21am

      The Tea Party’s America
      Karl Roves‘ ’Southern Strategy’..

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:45am

      DORA GASBAG, How in the heck have you associated one demented church with the Tea Party and Rove? Major stretch on your part. BTW, how are all of the churches in South Carolina?

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:27am

      @ dora THE DNC EMPLOYEE

      get an education

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:15am

      In the same way that they ludicrously associated the mass murder in the cinema with the Tea Party, RJ. Not to mention some other murders.

      Dora is a bit hysterical about the Tea Party, obviously, and sadly she is accompanied by other closed minds.

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    • ConservativeWithABrain
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:47am

      Let’s just be honest here. Given the denomination, location, and makeup of the church, it’s very likely that all involved are at least right leaning. No group is infallible, and pretending otherwise does nobody any good.

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    • DOra Glasberg
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:49pm

      My response was to some jerk blaming this on democrats.
      This is a 100% republican created environment – that where Rove comes in.
      Silly me – connecting the dots is NOT a Blazer strongpoint.

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    • Bagui
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 3:46pm

      As Swampy posted later, the power brokers in the church, are politically connected outside the church to the Democrat Party, and another was appointed to office by a Democrat. Once again, facts do not matter when someone has made their minds up that it’s the fault of a Conservative, or Tea Party member. I work in a Federal support facility, where one is bullied by “Independents”, Social Democrats, and occasional Libertarians, and really, it is not sanctioned to support any party in Federal facilities due to the Hatch Act. In state facilities, it should be the same, since federal money is trickled, or appropriated to the state level, one way or another. Anyway, I’ll hear about this story, since my roots are near the location of this story. My hometown was the site of the first civil rights murder, and it is not ironic that the man murdered was a black minister.

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    • ConservativeWithABrain
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:11pm

      I’ll wait to see it substantiated as fact before I believe a random commenter. I’ve seen no outside mention of who these people who objected were, so I would be suspect that someone who attended the church 30 years ago would know the exact people involved, and delight in maligning them so much.

      Also, there’s nothing wrong with an attorney defending a client, regardless of the crime — that’s fundamental to the working of our Constitution. Likewise, profiting during an economic downturn is no more or less moral than profiting during boom times. Betting against failing companies brings information to the market. That’s how free markets work. I miss the days when Conservatives and economists were on the same page.

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    • ChappellGirl5
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:32pm

      @conservativewithabrain From experience if these people are liberals of the democratic party you won’t hear about it in the news. They only report when it’s a conservative or tea party member at fault (or more precisely they only false report that it’s conservatives or tea party members at fault). I‘ve noticed a complete lack of reporting about Holmes’ party affiliations since it was proven he wasn’t a member of the tea party.

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    • sWampy
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:34pm

      I wasn’t saying representing a child murder or civil rights activists, or using inside information to profit while leaving your community devastated when the bank had a run on it and everyone lost their life savings. I was giving enough info for you to use google to figure out the names of those involved.

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    • Jack Bandit
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:47pm

      “My response was to some jerk blaming this on democrats.
      This is a 100% republican created environment – that where Rove comes in.
      Silly me – connecting the dots is NOT a Blazer strongpoint.”

      And apparently making cohesive points isn’t yours.

      “This is a 100% republican created environment”
      Uh, no. This was caused by the actions of a group of small minded hypocrites that give Christians a bad name. The fact that this church and their actions are being condemned by republicans/conservatives/Christians should tell you that this isn’t an environment that they create, accept or condone. And how exactly does Rove fit into this? So you don’t have to strain your self, he doesn’t…at all.

      “Silly me – connecting the dots is NOT a Blazer strongpoint(sic).”
      Yes, that must be it. I mean your smart, right? It absolutely has to be all these “Blazers”. It couldn’t possibly be that your baseless, moronic and vague assertion just didn’t make any sense. For some reason the axiom, “if the world stinks, maybe it’s your upper lip” comes to mind.

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  • Chromo200
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:04am

    The Pastor caved and all this has become his fault and he created a mess. He should have said the wedding is going on and if a few idiots leave so what. To save his job he has set back interracial relations back years.

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    • mompatriot
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:04pm

      true, needed to keep his job and thought apparently his Big Boss couldn’t handle the pressure from his members…..a whole lot of repentance in store…but Jesse and Al will be there if b o doesn’t get a photo op on this I will be surprised.

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    • Valuable
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:23pm

      Amen! He is the most at fault.

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  • servant100
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:00am

    What a total joke! No matter how you color this it comes up clearly racist. I live in rural East Texas…one state away from this garbage heap…and this kind of manure stopped around here about twenty to thirty years ago. Our church has blacks, bikers, white collar suburbanites, blue collar farmers and industrial workers…vietnamese, etc. In a church the only thing that matters is the color red….because you all come together through the shed blood of Jesus…which transcends EVERY category. All christians are adopted sons and daughters of the most high God…

    That this nincompoop pastor is too busy sucking up to the racists elements of his congregation…instead of following the clear leading of his Lord….shows clearly that he is a false shepard…and many of his sheep are actually wolves. Simple solution…take the cross off the church…and rename it to someother assembly…

    Pathetic…

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  • Meyvn
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:00am

    Fail.

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    • DOra Glasberg
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:23am

      No doubt a conservative group of Rash listeners.
      He once told a caller to take the bone out of her nose.
      Remember?

      DOra Glasberg  
    • sacklunch
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:14am

      Dora, you’re wrong as can be. You may wanna check who actually made that remark. Stupid liberal commenting where you shouldn’t be, talking about things you know nothing about.

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    • JustJ
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:23am

      Dora, you do realize that this website is frequented by conservatives right? Do you see any racism pouring from our mouths? Nope. You see shock and outrage. That dead horse that you’re beating died years ago… I guess you missed the “talking points” memo. The wind in that sail never took you to the promised land… because it’s a lie. All I see when I look on this site are patriots concerned for they’re fellow man… And a few trolls like you.

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    • ConservativeWithABrain
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:38am

      Before you demand someone do their research, do yours. Rush said it, but later regretted it.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:29am

      Just a note, Dora, on the reason why Condi Rice’s father joined the Republican party.

      He had already tried to join the Democratic party, but they wouldn’t allow him to do so because he was black.

      Your attacks on the conservatives on the basis of racial discrimination are quite silly and they diminsh your credibility.

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  • Bermuda Onion
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:56am

    The church failed, the pastor failed and the so-called Christians failed! The pastor should have gone ahead with the wedding and the opponents be damned! Now , the whole church and anybody that goes to that church should be looked upon as Judases!

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  • SanDiegoDave
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:52am

    The pastor had a great opportunity to take a stand and hold the wedding. It would have been good for the congregation to see the church board take a public vote to boot the pastor. The church needs to see who they are supporting. In any case, the pastor failed to take the right positon this time around. Maybe this was pratice for him to see what he should have done; he will be stronger next time (hopefully)…

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:05am

      I have to agree, being a pastor as well in my own right; he should have stood up to the congregation and married them in the church as agreed to, the consequences be blasted. God would have provided another door opening for the pastor in the end. Now he had a chance to do what is right, and failed in the end.

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  • CynthiaSpeaks
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:51am

    That Pastor took a very weak stand and allowed the wrong people to win, and he will forever be their puppet on a string. He had an opportunity to stand up and say racism is wrong, but didn’t. He and the rest of the congregation are just as culpable of racism as if they directly made the comment themselves. A sin of omission is just the same as commission. To say, now, that they (the congregants) wouldn’t have stood for it had they known is a little too convenient. Shame on #pastorstanweatherford and #firstbaptistchurchofcrystalsprings.

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  • tommyr
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:51am

    I am sure that there is a real Christian congregation that will accept them in a heartbeat. Bigots are idiots.

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    • Dr Vel
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:13am

      God himself is not welcome in that so called ‘church’, I am not sure why the couple would be surprised that they were not either. Nor do I see why anyone would step foot in the place since it is not fit for rodents. I am amazed neither the people nor the so called ‘minister’ stood up for a couple who are Gods children. Clearly spells out whose children the congregation really are since none of them protested this evil act. They should have gone elsewhere and not let that minister marry them, they deserve better.

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  • Tickdog
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:49am

    yawn!

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  • jwilburn
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:48am

    I Blame the Pastor..he could have told those few Members to Confess & Repent their Hatred or LEAVE….End of story…Happy Couple would have a Beautiful Wedding not tarnished by this nonsense..The Hurt this couple experienced is soo sad..the Members who knew & did not stand up, let this be a lesson to you…God doesn’t like Ugly…stop the Wrong!

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  • kcares
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:47am

    I can’t believe this. Are we not past this crap? This sure doesn’t help the Christian cause, or racism.
    I would quite that Church. I have quit Churches that do things or speak from the pulpit things I disagree with.

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  • qpwillie
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:47am

    I think there must be something going here that is not about race. I have known some racists but I have never met anyone who didn’t think black people should marry black people. Would they think it better if the couple just lived together?

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    • fedup ohio
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:36am

      I agree with QPWILLIE,

      There is more to the story than what is being told. I don’t believe it was about race. It might have been the age difference, it might be some other reason. I know some churches will not marry a couple, if they are currently living together. ( They have to live apart prior to the wedding and ask forgiveness of fornication and show that they are trying to live christian values.) During both media clips, I heard NO ONE personally state it was because of race. It is assumed by others. But, if it was about race, shame on the pastor for every stepping back into that church. ( If some of these folks were that racist, I don’t think they would attend a church that had blacks that attended their church) Something just isn’t right about this story.

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    • dixie63
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:00am

      I was thinking the same thing as you two. There has to be more to it that is not being told. I know some churches won’t marry a couple if it would be considered adultery. Did one of them leave a spouse for the other? Something is off about the story.

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    • sensibleadult
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 12:04pm

      This story reeks of the radical left. It is the kind of setup story that is used to spread false information to try to smear Christianity. I don’t believe for one second that the whole truth is being told. It is pure propaganda.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 1:36pm

      @QPWILLIE

      You may be right that there is more here than is being reported in this story. But, allow me this question. If there is a plausible reason for refusing to marry this couple why did not the Pastor immediately disclose that reason? As far as I can see he’s not offered any rationale other than the congregants said they would deny him his pulpit if he went through with the marriage.

      That makes Pastor Weatherford in my estimation, and if this report is true and complete, nothing more than a petty coward. Were I a member of his congregation I would initiate a move to remove him on that basis.

      Again, you could be correct, but your argument seems to be built on a very weak base. Peace.

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    • sWampy
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:33pm

      The three involved with stopping this wedding would be called liberal by anyone. Two hold elected office or have in the past as democrats, and 3rd was appointed to the court by a democrat.

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    • UnreconstructedLibertarian
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 3:36pm

      Swampy,

      Is this your church – or is it at least in your community? If so, in either case, I believe I would take your account of what is going on over the balance of uninformed folk commenting on this topic.

      This story didn’t smell right from the beginning. Its funny to me how the “right” falls for the race bait as eagerly as the “left”. It appears to be the weapon of choice for both who desire more central control. You’d think we would have caught on by now? Most haven’t.

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    • sWampy
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 3:56pm

      I went to this church until the 80′s when this same group got mad because the new pastor came in and told them they would no longer be able to run for deacon since they all had been divorced and were remarried, within a week, he was gone, they were back on the ballot, and the ex pastor was under investigation for missing money. Years later it came out there never was any missing money, it really tainted me on organized religion.

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  • Angel_light
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:42am

    this is unacceptable from anyone who calls themselves Christians. the members of that congregation are hypocrites and should be ashamed of themselves

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:50am

      Agreed.

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    • MommaGrizzly
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:28am

      Wow! So sad…

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    • Xyskalla
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:42am

      The groom said, “I blame those members who knew and call themselves Christians and didn’t stand up.”

      He is so right. The problem isn’t just the racists in the congregation, but also with the rest of the members of the church who were too spineless to stand up for what is right. And the pastor should have done the right thing and married them in the church anyway and let God deal with the consequences. Instead, he demonstrated his lack of faith for all the world to see.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 2:01pm

      I don’t remember the exact quote, but it goes something like this. All it takes for evil to flourish is for good people to remain silent. We all have to willing and able to learn from history and to see things for what they are. Peace.

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    • Xyskalla
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:28am

      I believe you’re thinking of a quote commonly attributed to Edmond Burke: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

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  • NickDeringer
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:41am

    Yes. Racism still exists. I have herd too many conservatives in the media act like it doesn’t. We conservatives need to stand up against this kind of stuff.

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    • samurai2112
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:03am

      Agreed. All it does is feed the already wrong impression perceived by the MSM and those on the left that we are all just racists. Epic Fail by the pastor and the church. Lets see if they do the right thing and fix their error in judgement.

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    • Bagui
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 3:26pm

      Never mind my liberal friends and coworkers give a “get out of jail free” card to Liberal politicians and
      “common-taters” who have outright racist comments and epithets to conservative women and blacks.
      Thankfully, Dr. Alvida King has kept the true “Dream” alive of her relative, Dr. Martin Luther King, and has not gone to cheap shots, low blows, and media drama to manipulate a Nation into a race war. It has to be a priority for real evil to exaggerate media moments for violent confrontations, and social “justice”. It is a common sentiment to not legislate/regulate morality, and actually, that is what our government has done for over 40 years to overcome mere rudeness and outright murder.

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  • lel2007
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 7:40am

    Sad.

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    • UPSETVET
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 4:10pm

      Hey the members in the First Baptist Church of Crystal Springs are WHITE MISSISSIPPIANS and have the right to be racists if they want. A few years ago such a thing wouldn’t have been considered in Mississippi. The BLACK couple weren’t members of that church and that makes me wonder if there are ANY black members in it. I‘m inclined to believe there isn’t. What would be the reaction of a BLACK church in regards to marrying a WHITE couple. If not outwardly, inwardly it would be exactly the same.We’re all racists at heart, admit it or not, we are !

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