White House: Bin Laden Was Unarmed During Raid
- Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:34pm by
Emily Esfahani Smith
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Osama bin Laden was unarmed when he was confronted by U.S. commandos at his Pakistani hideout but tried to resist the assault, the White House said Tuesday as new details emerged about the audacious raid that killed the world’s most wanted terrorist.
In a press briefing today, White House press secretary Jay Carney noted that “resistance does not require a firearm.”
The White House said it was considering whether to release photos that were taken of bin Laden after he was killed but was concerned that the photos were “gruesome” and could be inflammatory.
Other details that emerged on Tuesday, according to U.S. officials: One of bin Laden’s wives tried to rush the commandos and was shot in the leg. High temperatures caused a lumbering helicopter carrying the raiders to make a hard landing. And as Navy SEALs swept through the compound, they handcuffed those they encountered with plastic zip ties and pressed on in pursuit of their target, code-named Geronimo.
Once bin Laden had been shot, they doubled back to move the prisoners away from the compound before blowing up the downed helicopter.
The fuller picture of the high-stakes assault emerged as U.S. officials weighed whether to release video and photos of bin Laden, who was killed with a shot above his left eye.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.



















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nacilbuper
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:06pmYes, and now his wife was only shot in the leg. I guess it must have been hard to id the body when she was DEAD. These guys are making it up as the go along. Keystone Cops.
Something is not right here.
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:05pmDeliberate conflicting disinformation is always used to bury the real facts…Is osama dead? I think so. But I always thought he was killed years ago. Think about it. With all that has been going on in the ME, osama would have put out some video…you know he loved to do that..
Remember, the SEALS don’t “exist”, so they cannot confirm or deny what happened..
Report Post »BlazingInSC
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:15amWell, the SEaLs do exist. ST6, on the other hand, are generally more covert. They are the “Men in Black”. But the other SEaL teams do exist. I’ve been onboard submarines that have done special ops with various teams. I’ve met them, ate with them, played cards with them, and helped load and unload their gear (with the exception of a few “special packs” that contain their firearms and ordinances).
But yes, your point is valid. Nobody from ST6 can come out and say – “Hey, I wasn’t there. I was watching Rio with my wife”
Report Post »h20sue
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:02pmYes, Osama is gone, so let’s get back to why gas is too high and why small business and folks are struggling to put food on the table. I think Obama needs to forget about Osama. It’s over, it’s done, and there are more important problems facing “We the People”. Get back to work Obama, and figure out how we’re going to survive…. Stop sending Pakistan, Haiti, and others money. You have enough starving and poor people in your own back yard! WAKE UP AND LOOK HOW MANY PEOPLE DEPEND ON MEDICARE, FOOD STAMPS, AND CAN’T PAY BILLS. Are you asleep at the wheel in D.C. or your golf game keeping you up at night so you can’t concentrate on us?
What’s is like to get on Air Force One and spend tax payers money, money, money, money, and have three other jets (one on each side and one above) giving you the best security and burning fuel like there’s no tomorrow? Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention the Enterage who follows with bullit proof cars, wardrobe and little elves that help you dress, cook your food and put tooth paste on your brush for you… How could that have slipped by me? I’m sure I left out something.
Report Post »How about staying at home a couple months in a row (Whitehouse) and see what it’s like to go nowhere, have no vacations, no money to enjoy a simple meal out from time to time, and worry how you’re going to pay bills. Try it, you may like it! It will certainly teach you how to budget, as I don’t think you have a clue what a “budget” is.
Ole Country Doctor
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:30pmEpic post, can’t agree more!
Report Post »pazzo242
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:35amVery well said
Report Post »capecodsully
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:01pmSAVINGTHEREPUBLIC.COM I agree with you, the Obama administration is putting all of our military in a very bad position. We have troops in harms way and these jokers are making their situation much more dangerous.
Report Post »antidonkey
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:59pmWe have the greatest military in the world… no doubt… they travel halfway around the world, in the middle of the night to offer room service. I guess Bin Laden didn’t care for the mocha – too early I suppose. Oh well – live (or not) and learn.
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:58pmI do not care if they shot him while he was asleep,…he deserved death. Now that I got that out of the way….I want to say this. Does our government ever get their story right?. Obama must have had a hand in the first version of the killing. Obama is a consummate liar. I am surprised that the first story was: ‘obama fought hand to hand with osama and strangled him’. What will be the next correction? Will they say we did not kill him and we found that his wife had killed him two hours before we got there.?
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:55pmdid BO say the seals used exsessive force? yet? time to file charges. I thought 911 was america fought according to the libs. That photo of the situtation room could BO make himself look any smaller? and he called the shots? BO said america killed OBL. what a choice of words. BO deserves no credit, except for trying to destroy this country. spend spend spend until it’s over. then rebuild in his commie image.Sucks to be you tax payer.
Report Post »nomercy63
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:55pmLets get the truth before we celebrate Bin Ladens death. This story does not add up. all you are getting is what the government is telling you. This looks the exact same as the BC with in minutes of its release everyone was saying thats it its official same with Bin Laden they will release a photo that doesnt look anything like him and will say thats it. I have never seen so much non sense ever
Report Post »Mascoma
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:54pmLet the bodies hit the floor, I guess he should have had his hands in the Air, they might not have made such a mess. Better him, his wife, his kid, his dog, then any one of our guys… OORAH
Report Post »He saw Jesus, Jesus said, depart from me, I do not know you. Don‘t let Jesus say that to you or you’ll spend time with Bin Laden that should be enough for people to get saved right there.
slowzero
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:53pmPeople,
Report Post »focus on what is going on, if he were alive, that would be all that would be dealt with for the next monthes/years. But, he is dead, so no trial, no pandering by you silly progressive muckety mucks. Now lets get over it, and get back to balancing our personal budgets, then the American one. I would say that the order for this mission should have read something like this: WANTED: DEAD. Then the Liberal Progressives could not cry foul. But, nobody wants to call things for what they are anymore, everybody wants it done their way! Guess what? Can’t be that way all the time.
Law Officer
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:53pmResistance doesn’t require a firearm…but use of deadly force requires more than resistance by an unarmed person!
Report Post »constitutionaldirective
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:52pmABSOLUTELY!!.. Being CCW, it is beaten into me that you ONLY use lethal force to counter lethal force.. SOMETHING is horribly wrong here!
Report Post »pazzo242
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:39amGive me a break. This is bin Laden the world’s most wanted man and you jokers are saying there is something wrong with this kill. Get real!! Even the slightest move that is even the clightest bit suspicious deserves a bullet in the head. This is also war not some cop on a beat that has to give multiple warnings……you guys are pathetic.
Report Post »Whostolemypig
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:52pmWhen all the facts come out I don’t doubt that Obama just went to the basement of the White House and shot Osama while he slept. Something strange about this whole episode!!!!
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:51pmPeople, this is all about Caesar. He is going to ground zero in less than two days to be praised by the masses, taking credit for 10 years of work, when all he did was decide to say okay once he saw the political gain.
Report Post »airbrnmtr
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:50pmNon of this is making much sence. 1st there was a 20min firefight with him, now he was unarmed. Im glad this SOB is dead, but he could have been usefull to us alive for a couple of hours anyway. Why is the Obma Adminastration putting this info out anyway. all they have to do is say nothing. This is starting to smell.
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:58pmThey also said it was a forty minute firefight!!
Report Post »ScreaminEagle
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:49pmThe UN Wants To KNow If We Had A Warrant……………… Welcome to the REAL World Democrats……. you attacked “W” for ANY thing he attempted to do to stop our nation being attacked,, NOW enjoy,,,,,,,,,,, Seals Went To The Front Door,,,,, Seals Went To The Back Door,,, Seals At Front Door KNOCKED,,, YELLED POLICE,,,,, Seals At Back Door Yelled ,,,,, COME IN,,,,, so we did,,,,sweet,,, and then little osamamama hides behind his little lady,,… what a man,,, was really roughing it huh
Report Post »fishlore
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:46pm“resistance does not require a firearm.”
Just warms the heart to hear the administration say this. Remember those words when they start coming after citizens with differing points of view. After the next end around, bypassing Congress, when they can’t pass firearm confiscation and control through the legal channels.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:42pmGlad he is dead.
back to what to potus is responsible for:
Report Post »the economy– lack there of
oil– lack of domestic
constitution– disregard of.
beck2012
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:42pmI could care less if he was armed or not… just glad he is barking in hell
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:48pmI hear his new roommate with a funny little mustache is cranky.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:05pmHelen Thomas??
Report Post »PavZilla
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:19pmStop Gonza and Imam, I pert near shot coffee out of my nose! (Don’t stop, hahahaha – I need the laughs)
Report Post »PavZilla
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:24pmerr, Gonzo … sorry about that. I shouldn’t cackle and type at the same time.
Report Post »Navyveteran
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:29amYou will care if a team of government officials come through your door and double tap you and then the administration says well Beck2012 was resisting arrest. The reporter will say Beck2012 didn’t have a weapon. Then administration will say, you don’t need a weapon to resist arrest.
This scares the living hell out of me. Obama ran on giving these people their day in trial, but we are going to assasinate OBL because he “resisted arrest unarmed?” What about his day? Don’t get me wrong I have no tears for his death, if he really died this year. I am very skeptical about this whole deal. It has been one lie after the other, who do you trust? Your gut feelings or your government run by a pathological liar?
Report Post »robin.kevin
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:40pmSo he how did he resist. Don’t get me wrong I have no problems with him being dead but if he was unarmed we should of been able to at least get some intel from him you would think…
Report Post »Sugabee
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:43pmObviously, not the objective of the mission….
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:44pmSo Obama could put him on trial for the next two years and really get the towel heads wound up?
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:54pmHe resisted by saying “NO”.
Report Post »robin.kevin
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:05pmWell I agree, last thing I would wanted to see is him go up for trial and all the bs that goes with it. It just doesn’t really make sense to me. Further more, why even say he was unarmed that was information that just didn’t need to be released. I would of more than likely done the same thing, although I think beating the living heck out of him to get intel before killing him would been the better choice. That’s all I was saying. Then again like everyone else I don’t know the full story that might be just what happen… don’t really know now do we?
Report Post »jacobstroubles
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:39pmYes, and the highly trained seals that see an unarmed person, would quickly put a bullet in the head of an unarmed person…. hummmm let see… this makes The Seals look really bad or it’s total ********… gosh…so hard to decide what the truth could possibly be.
Hummm…so many stories, so many photo..to include the 1st one which was so easy to debunk…
gosh..what is the real story going on behind the scene…
Christians stand by – GOD is about to sound that trumpet “Come Up Here”… and those who are involved in what is going on “the incredible lie” know this to be true. They cant stop what is about to happen..
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:01pmyeah..SEALs can kill you a 100 ways without a gun…why double tap an unarmed old ill man in the head and chest…they could have beat him senseless first and then cuffed his butt….but then again… remember the initial reports… Obama issued a “kill order” not a “capture or kill” order…so Obama wanted him DOA no matter what….because a trial would distract him from his campaign and point out all his weaknesses on National Security…and all the intel they gathered from the compound would come out at trial and point to the terror cells inside the US made up of illegals and Hamas crossing our southern border that Obama wants to keep open…this smells more and more with each “revision” from the Administration…
God Bless the US Military…they need our prayers as their CoC throws them under the bus again..I see the Petraus move to the CIA as a demotion and now Obama can keep an eye on him better because Petraus probably knew about this and wanted to do it a long time ago and they wouldn’t let him…wasn’t the right time yet…needed to wait for the election cycle of 2012 to begin…
Report Post »ramburner
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 8:08pm@Jacobstroubles; Very true. That time is coming at us so fast that most people will be left wondering what happened. 1 Thess 4:16; Rev 4:1 and 1 Cor 15:52 not to speak of Old Testament references. Then who will be “left behind”? Those described in Rom 1 and 2 Thess 2, ultimately in Rev 20.
We are living in a time unlike any other time on earth. Wars and rumors of war, famines and pestilences, and even our governments are involved and complicit in deceiving us to believe in them, while they collapse the world currency and ignore any and all that is right and just or good for mankind. Man in general has a compulsion to make himself wise and shake his fist in the face of God. But God will have the last word. All who ignored natural cures for disease an chose to hunt for a man-made solution instead will be judged. Truth is; if man did want to cure any disease we could have researched the benefits of natural cures. But money was more important than human life. Our depravity is made evident in all of the abortion allowed by our corrupt government. Human life is NOT valued by any nation. We are ALL under sin, read Romans 3, NONE of us can escape on our own. The ten commandments were given to teach us what sin was in the eyes of God, but we conveniently make fun of them and God and all that is good. I am happy that we are living in such a time, and can post and share how GREAT our God is. I thank God, that even death because of telling the truth for His sake, will be a wonderful experience in the end.
I know where I am going. 1 John 5. Do you? Read Rom 10:9-13 and choose life over death. May God Bless you as you chose Jesus over allah or some other corrupt human religion.
Report Post »ramburner
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 8:09pmSorry brother, I did not mean YOU specifically in my comment; that was said to alert those without Christ.
Report Post »jim
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:39pmOsama gave ‘em the old raspberry… and… boom, boom… double tap, baby!
Report Post »912828Buckeye
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:38pmand they shot him in the head?
Report Post »slowzero
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:48pmHe is responsible for killing 3,000 people, on American soil……….. do you really feel sorry for him? Ya, they shot him in the head. I am ok with that.
Report Post »RugerHoyt
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:35pmAnd I hope they spat on his body as it lay lifeless on the floor. Why are so many people upset that he got shot in the head, or that he wasn’t armed? You don‘t make the FBI’s most wanted list because you play nice people, he got the 5.56 FMJ he deserved. I hope that soldier saved his shell casing so he can give it to his grandchild one day….. GOD BLESS THE US!
Report Post »attleboro
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 7:23pmMission was to kill, so yes.
Report Post »Ironeagle
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:38pmKilled in cold blood? Like the 3000 who lost their lives on 9-11-01? Like Daniel Pearl? Good.
Report Post »LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:38pmHIT THE FLOOR…. what did you say?…..BANG
Report Post »LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:51pmI wish they got him alive, then found a really tall Building to Implode and chained Bin Ladin to the floor and blow it . or put him in a room in another tall building open the window, then set a big FIRE on the INSIDE DOOR …. jump you Basturdddddd
never forget 9-11
Report Post »seminolebri
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:08pmOsama is alive. He is being tortured for information.
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:10pmUsually, I say shoot the criminals. But this guy, the greatest torture would be locked in prison,eating, sleeping and then a last, normally aspirated breath here in ARMERICA.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:46pmHang on guys the ACLU is preparing something .
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:37pmBin Laden was unarmed during raid and de-brained after the raid.
Report Post »Untameable-kate
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:42pmI don’t care that he was unarmed, he got what he paid for.
Report Post »marhee9
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:42pmHe should have listened to Obama when he said if they bring a knife…… So glad that they finally got this guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCUYPR00D5A
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:45pmI just wish they could make up their minds on which lie they’re going to tell!
FIRST they said that Osama fired an AUTOMATIC HANDGUN and that the Navy SEAL took him out with a shot to the head.
So which is it THIS five minutes?
And, after all this, I’m wondering how anyone actually feels safer after all this..
We have Hamas on our Southern Borders;
Report Post »Los Zetas are recently WELL-armed by 0-bama’s ATF;
Border Patrol has been instructed NOT to make arrests;
our border is essentially open; and,
we have a compulsive liar in the White House!
cheezwhiz
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:46pmSo first WH retracted the propaganda they put out that binLaden hid behind a woman.
Report Post »Now they say he wasn’t armed .
Whats next ? It wasn’t binLaden ?
All this when they were watching it LIVE . WHAT were they watching really ? Or was that just a photo-op ?
SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:46pm^______^______^
Don’t know if I said it here or elsewhere but IMO if special forces went hunting for OBL they would pop him vs capture. Mainly due to the circus with KSM and the rest of the degenerates living at The Resort De Gitmo not to mention the fact that he deserves it. Whether he was armed or not no one will know(maybe) but this new story being pitched by Carnival Carney fits perfectly into why they dont want to show the pics. They watched this thing unfold in situation room which means cams were rolling, probably helmet cams. Who wants to bet there is vid footage of the take down!?
Is it just me or has anyone taken notice at the current narrative and what they, admin, are doing?! They are throwing our military under the bus… again!
Report Post »nuttyvet
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:46pm@Gonzo – Hilarious!
Report Post »IAMNOTKNOWING
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:50pmHe wasn’t armed?
Funny….. neither were our fellow citizens!
Report Post »anutter
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:59pmWho cares.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 3:59pmSo basically once again we have an administration of liars? Never would have dreamed that..
Anyone hear about the Pittsburg Steeler football player Medenhall tweeting about Osama? Mendenhall thought he had a right to an opinion in America but the owner quickly came in and let us all know what Mendenhall actually meant to say??? lol So the man thought he was entitled to his opinion? Thought he was free to think and speak out loud? lol Nah, still just a damn slave Mendy baby.. Don’t veer too far out of the mainstream my friend… The same spirit which use to burn men at the stakes for having the gall to question authority is still alive and well in the 21st century!
It’s sort of interesting what he said though.. I found it very strange too that people were celebrating the death of another human being. I thought that was Glenn Beck was chastising the Palestinians about a few weeks back?? Even suggesting they were animals for celebrating the death of Jews. Interesting inconsistency. In fairness to GB I don’t think he really jumped on the bandwagon with all of the celebrations.. he even sort of mocked it on his show last night but he didn’t criticize it.
Report Post »davis51
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:02pmyep and so was all the people that were in the twin towers. It doesn’t come close to what he should of gotten. Drag his sorry azz off to the carrier and throw him on the tar mack and then fire hose him off the ship. And even then thats not good enough. Who’s next on the hit list? Bring it on.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:02pmNot true. I heard he was throwing Beard Rats at them but he ran out of ammo. I guess that technically made him unarmed.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:03pmDoes this mean that the Service Members sent on this raid will be court marshaled?
I would put nothing past ,whats his name??
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:04pmand i add, who gives a rats ass.
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:04pmOsama Bin Ladin was not “unramed”. He had two of them, a left arm and right one.
Report Post »Outlaw_Josey_Wales
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:09pmThe 9/11 victims were unarmed.
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:12pmFirst his body was in the U.S. now we find out it was rushed and buried at sea less than 24 hours, then were told Pakistan intelligence was working with us in this operation and now their villifying Pakistan for not cooperating and telling Pakistan (to justify the helicopters in their country) it was a training mission for fear if they told the Pakistani government the truth that the info would leak. Then we were told Usama or one of his buddies was using Usama’s wife as a human shield then they retract that statement yet there is still a dead Usama wife somehow? Then we were told Usama was firing at the SEALS and that they offered him a chance to surrender but he denied the oppurtunity so they shot him and now they say he did not have a gun? Not conspiring anything just stating the constant retractions in the “official” story
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:14pm13th Imam
Report Post »Does this mean that the Service Members sent on this raid will be court marshaled?
I would put nothing past ,whats his name??
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Did you see that clip of Colbert dissing on Cheney about this same Team 6 ?
http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/03/team-six-from-cheneys-secret-assassination-squad-to-obmas-super-awesome-cleanup-crew/
That was when Cheney and Bush could do no good .
Svt4Him
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:14pmWell at least we know the last thing that went through his mind before he died.
Report Post »spirited
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:15pmMust have forgot to strap on his bedtime martyr vest.
>Shucks!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:17pmNotice what they stated though: “Resistance does not require a firearm.”
There now has been set the precidence for the use of the military to terminate a target without the chance of surrender. ANYTHING now is fair game, foreign or domestic, with the administration. The Obama group, with this statement, now has crossed the line of total usage of force as an option on those they regard as enemies within the nation.
Report Post »wrightstr
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:22pmNo he didn’t get what he deserved. He should have been taken alive and put on trial! JK. But really, he should have been taken alive and tortured every day until every troop came home.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:28pmThe people in the World Trade center were unarmed too…F HIM!
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:31pmThe little children his followers strapped bombs on were unarmed too, and the workers in the twin towers, how many of them were packing? All I can say is, it was way too easy on him! He needed to suffer a bit!
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:36pmWe might have to raise fuds to defend the soldier that fired the shot, because i am sure someone will try to bring murder charges against him.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:36pmSnowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Report Post »Notice what they stated though: “Resistance does not require a firearm.”
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“Resistance does not require a firearm.”
This will be the motto for Obama’s civilian National security force, just as well funded as the US Military and just as well armed too. He’ll find resistance everywhere just to use his personal army
avenger
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:37pmthe libs stupidity is truly classical….
Report Post »GBMBulletsSKNRD
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:37pmAll the people that died on 9/11 where unarmed. That’s all I have to say here.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:39pmThe lies never stop with these A-holes.
Report Post »thebarbarian
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:46pmif he was unarmed how is it that he was shot in defence…npr just about an hour ago aired that he was killed while attempting to kill one/more of the seals. he was’nt going to go quietly.good, now that’s one less thing the gov. and holder are going to steal our money for.
Report Post »like the muslim clerics being offended about the pc burial. the usurper and chief and co. tried to make it as muslim and pc as possible. the clerics are all saying no good. the burial at sea is a time honored burial for lots of culturs, but because the US was involved it is too christian.
Sinista MACE
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:50pmBin Ladin died years ago.
They need to keep this farce going so they can keep molesting you at the terminal and plan on molesting you at the bus stop, on the streets, at your front door, in your bedroom…
Report Post »Oahujack
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 4:59pmAlmost all photos of Bin Laden show him with a firearm..don’t wait for him to show it, just shoot him. The whinihg liberals wanted him to be shot in the leg or hand, JUST LIKE THEY SAW ON TV! Oh wait, that’s Hollywood and is only real to liberals
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 5:15pm……..
Report Post »I wish these clowns could get their stories straight.
No wonder people think Osama is alive.
The story changes every five minutes.
ozchambers
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 5:26pmHe was using Kung Fu!
seriously tho, I find this interesting…so they round everyone up after killing OBL and move them to a safe location so they can blow the copter. I’m wondering if they were brought to a safe place that wouldnt allow them to see a body bag being loaded onto the copter. Or even a tall guy with plastic cuffs and a black bag on his head being loaded into a copter. Not saying I believe they didnt kill OBL, but I‘d think there would be alot of good info in that noggin of his that we’d love to explore. If he isnt dead now, he will be eventually whether we get the info out of him or not. Again, just a thought.
If I were in charge of this operation, I’d want him alive if he could be taken alive, but I sure as heck wouldnt want a trial and the ruckus that would create worldwide. It sure would make things alot less potentially messy if the world thinks he’s dead. And again, if I were in charge he WOULD be dead once we either had all the information or came to the conclusion that he wasnt giving it up.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 5:34pmCome on folks, use the space between your ears…
You had 2 12 man teams, giving 24 operatives total…1 team secured and searched outer building upon hard landing while second team secured the three story compound…
Clearing a room is one by one and occasionally clearing in groups of two or three..Upon entering a room and having contact, sight, of the HVT one immediately asses the room for threat and orders surrender…
A woman lunged at the “team”, resulting in a leg shot, meaning she wasn’t a threat in terms of death so a leg shot neutralized her disturbance..
You then have little children and Osama in the room…Osama said to be unarmed..A group of seals can take an unarmed Osama alive with their eyes closed….A good slap of a rifle butt knocks anyone out…
He was shot dead by us or by a guard member, either way, he was assassinated…Osama wasn’t coming back alive to wreak more havoc..
Good job team…
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 5:41pmUS_SOLDIER: Much much fishy about all of this.. .No one wants to stop and think.
Let me pose a question. Now that is supposedly over or the head of the snake has been removed can we feel safer now from the threat of radical Islam? I would say no. We are now more vulnerable to mass murder of American civilians. It will happen and you people will kick and scream and the horror of it all and they will be animals and dogs.. They’ll need to be wrapped w/ bacon and fed to dogs..etc
But what was the issue AlQueda had with America to begin with? I thougth I understood the real issue at the heart of all of this was our Bases in Arabia and the Middle East and our arming of the Israelis. Is there not one just one rational peson in America that will be allowed to appear on any Media and address the real issues of why we are at War??? Oh my god. This is insane! Address the root of the problem. Why must we have bases in the Middle East? China doesn’t. Russian doesn’t. Germany doesn’t. They are all ok?
I find this all so absurd.. We are forced to surrender our liberties and blow all of our treasure not to mention the blood sacrifise on fighting a never ending war without ever attempting to get to the root of the problem??? What is wrong with this picture?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 5:53pmAlso keep in mind Osama was in bad health, kidneys, and this administration won’t water board…If they did do you believe a dialysis patient could survive water boarding? No…
Also, do you think Osama would talk or choose to be a martyr while in our custody? If we did say shock him to get intel, he’d die from his kidney failure making him a martyr…
If we brought him here or Gitmo how many followers would attack to free him…
The HVT was terminated so to protect us…To prevent him gaining power from capture, to prevent attacks to free him, to prevent his martyr while in our custody…Eliminating the threat was the only option..
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 6:01pmOKIE, you make some good points and a offer an insiders perspective of what happens and your post has got me thinking about the factor that usually debunks fascinating conspiracy theories: the number of people who would have to be in on it. All of the operators, the pilots, the “eyes in the sky”, all in communication with the team, the members of the administration, those on board the Carl Vinson who handled the body, cleaned it, dumped it, photographed / videotaped it. And I‘m sure I’m missing more. That is a whole lot of mouths to keep shut for what might be the most important and definitely the most visible CT operation in history. I know for a fact that operators and to a lesser extent others in the Intelligence community are good at keeping mum, but we both also know that they sometimes are willing to share that info with trusted ones and others in their “community”, and sometimes these things eventually come to light on some level.
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 6:03pm@Tech
You are correct…No one is addressing the root cause, just the issue from it…
USA dominates the World..The second beast…
You know who controls the second beast…The same ones who controlled the first..
Who is from NY also asked before going to war whom isn’t a government official…look it up…
Knowing this you should know the ending…
Keep that in mind for you can’t change destiny that has already been made…
I do understand you concern and anger but know it’s not in our hands….
Stay strong and on the trail of truth..
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 6:14pmWhite House press secretary Jay Carney noted that “resistance does not require a firearm.”
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WHOA! Is that a prelude to what awaits us? You all, concealed carry!
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 6:22pm@Chambers
Remember Osama was the most wanted man in the world, even more then Saddam…In fact he was such a HVT, mum was an under statement…
One thing to consider, Extraction left to Afghan hanger to dump what could be and prob finish verifying and immediately head to Carl Vinson…I’m positive no one new what was inbound to Carl…How many choppers come in and off Carl? and with no info being public it could be played as a mere “important” drop, drill, etc…You know the SOP..
As far as burial, again, Carl Vinson is no row boat…I‘m positive they didn’t announce over the horn to come to Osama burial ceremony…Lol..I’m sure though if one tried to contact Carl Vinson operatives, they would find someone saw the choppers and saw abnormal activity…
I highly doubt those of low clearance would “know” but could give insight of the abnormal activity…
You know how easily a big story can not be mentioned at all…No different here….Hope that makes sense..
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 6:30pmBut what was the issue AlQueda had with America to begin with? I thougth I understood the real issue at the heart of all of this was our Bases in Arabia and the Middle East and our arming of the Israelis. Is there not one just one rational peson in America that will be allowed to appear on any Media and address the real issues of why we are at War??? Oh my god. This is insane! Address the root of the problem. Why must we have bases in the Middle East? China doesn’t. Russian doesn’t. Germany doesn’t. They are all ok?
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Tech – the bases are just a reason they give. The truth is they can’t get over something that happened hundreds of years to nearly a thousand years ago. Much of the hate stems from the Crusades. While the Crusades were ill conceived it does not make sense to continue to hate “anyone” from the west due to what happened centuries ago.
Bin Laden twisted the help America gave to the Afghanis during the Russian occupation making us as bad as the Russians. This is a good reason for the US to get away from Libya as fast as possible. Years from now those that we help in Libya may very well bite the hand that fed them as well. Especially since they were trained by the likes of Bin Laden.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 6:35pmreally ??? he was also already dead
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 6:36pmWho knows after all we’ve heard, but I believe a lethal head shot was too humane. He should have been shot in the kneecap and then shot with a tranquilizer dart, then incarcerated and interrogated for as long as he was useful. And all of it should be very visible to the public.
Dumping him at sea was downright stupid unless you’re trying to cover something up.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 6:50pmShowtime: “I just wish they could make up their minds on which lie they’re going to tell!”
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He usually tells one big lie a day. In re Operation Geronimo, it’s been a piñata of lies every day (might as well go Mexican) to keep us distracted.
Of course we all know there was no such “kill or capture” order. No way Obama, of all people, was going to risk bringing that A-bomb to America.
Cheezwhiz: “All this when they were watching it LIVE . WHAT were they watching really ? Or was that just a photo-op ?”
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I may be wrong, but my gut feeling is that they had an aerial view and e.g., saw the chopper go down. I don’t think an operation of this nature can be carried out successfully if civilians are embedded, even if only virtually.
pajamash
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 6:57pmCheezwhiz: “All this when they were watching it LIVE . WHAT were they watching really ? Or was that just a photo-op ?”
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NBA playoffs perhaps? Did POTUS fill out a bracket on the NBA?
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 7:04pm@Pajamash
If America wasn’t the superpower of the world, say we were like oh idk Canada, and Arabs came to the USA, began helping extract oil through companies, built bases and halfway controlled the USA government; Do you think some militia group would rise up to make those Arabs leave?
We have militia extremists nows…It may be hard to look through the eyes of those in ME and but if you do, you may understand their craziness…
I’m not condoning them or saying these crazies in the ME are good but being a responsible American we must look at the root cause and our actions…
We are in ME countries for two reasons only: oil and Israel…Pick your poison…
Report Post »ramburner
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 7:15pmYou imply that he had a brain. Hmmmmm.
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 7:23pmOkie,
1) The US gets a very small percentage of our oil from the middle east.
Report Post »2) We pay a fair price for the oil we do use.
3) So, when are you going to give up your car. Your heat. Etc.?!
4) You are starting to sound like Rashard Mendenhall.
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 7:37pm@Pajamash
1) The US gets a very small percentage of our oil from the middle east.
Who is it that prices oil (OPEC), and what do they price in. (dollars)…Who taught them of oil and how to extract it? American companies…
Why do we have bases there?
2) We pay a fair price for the oil we do use.
Yes we pay the price OPEC prices oil on dollars after WE made the deal on oil being priced in dollars..Did we build bases for protection as a trade???
3) So, when are you going to give up your car. Your heat. Etc.?!
Why do I need to give up anything for saying we shouldn’t be in the ME?? I’ll pay what the pump forces me to…That has nothing to do with the ME as you said we only get a little from ME…Oops for you…
4) You are starting to sound like Rashard Mendenhall
Try to insult all you want to distract….Who’s tactic is that..Guess your starting to sound like them! Oops on you again… FYI Mendenhall is a glorified gladiator…Nothing more…Way over paid to run up a field…
Please pajamash address those questions I first posted to you…Would folks rise up if Arabs were here as described?
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 7:58pmOkie,
No because it is free trade. I haven’t seen any guns to the heads of the middle east nations to sell other nations their oil. OPEC sets the price in American Dollars. It has been the standard currency for many years – your point?. However, China is already making waves about that and trying to get that changed. Like I said we pay a fair price for the small amount of oil we purchase from them. You are the one sounding like “them” (I presume you are meaning the left). You are using the America the Imperialist Nation argument. Are you saying America is in the wrong in purchasing any oil from nations outside the US?
Not exactly sure why you are going off on me when my comment was about the root of middle east frustration which does lead back to the Crusades.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 8:12pmWell, that’s not the report I got!
“The leader of the free world saw the terror chief killed by a single bullet to the head via a video camera fixed to the helmet of a U.S. commando. But it was only when he received the signal ‘Geronino’ that he knew Bin Laden was dead.
“The dramatic footage of the ferocious battle in a Pakistani hideout – relayed to the White House by satellite link – is also said to show the Al Qaeda leader using a woman, thought to be one of his wives, as a human shield.
“As he blasted away with an AK47 assault rifle in the bedroom of his heavily-fortified hideout in Pakistan, the world’s most wanted man was shot in the left eye by a Navy special forces Seal.
But his assassination has prompted immediate fears of revenge attacks by jihadists.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382649/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Photo-Obama-watching-special-forces-shoot-him.html#ixzz1LKzDYQqD
The link copied and pasted:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382649/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Photo-Obama-watching-special-forces-shoot-him.html
QUESTION: If Osama had an AK-47 assault rifle and was “blasting away” with it, how could they claim he was not armed? So, WAS he or WASN’T he armed? (Have they decided yet which tale they are going to tell?)
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 8:14pm@Tech
There are a few who will tell us truth and really know what they speak of but once they get on media they either get talked down to, interrupted, or not brought back on.. It doesn’t matter though Tech, we only wanna hear what we wanna hear…
Listen to Michael Scheuer…His experience speaks for itself and when media has him on they do not like what he has to say and limits his rhetoric for their cherry picking…Mike Scheuer is very knowledgable and very seasoned…Check him out…
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 8:33pm……….
Report Post »Hello, Jay. Tap, tap?
Can you give me an example of how one resists Seal Team Six without a knife or gun?
Throw your beanie baby at them?
This is the most wanted man on the face of the Earth. He was always pictured with an AK-47 in hand.
Yet when an American helicopter crash lands on his lawn, and Seals pile out, he doesn’t have a weapon or guards.
Did I just fall through the “looking glass”?
Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 8:35pm@Pajamash
I mean no I’ll and I appreciate a good dialogue..Let us discuss this…
I can understand your point concerning the Crusade theory to a point..I will say the USA never conducted a crusade, did they? So why attack us and not Rome?
First though look at the history, Arabs were mere camel jockeys going from oasis to oasis until when? Until big oil companies showed them what oil was, how to extract and how to make a dime..All fine and dandy…upon this occurrence, Government/Big oil made a deal with these countries, oil in dollars for knowledge and protection…Since then US continued to expand in the ME slowly propping up dictators in exchange for good deals including the Sheiks…Normal joes of the ME see them as US puppets…Just as we would see our pres as a puppet if reversed…
Why do you think China is making those waves? Because it benefits the country in which their currency is being used..In this example, US $…
Look how freaked out people are about Arabs owning part of our banks, lands, etc…Now imagine if they built a base here with US permission…You really honestly do not think some would go nuts? Have you seen posts on here now…I need not say more…
Back to the crusades, again, we never launched one but being a half intelligent Muslim, Osama and others saw how fighting in the name of “Allah” with us against the Soviets moved a great mass of folks…Once we became buddy buddy with the Saudis, OPEC etc he used same against us…It’s manipulation 101 on all sides and we are all paying for it…
Again I mean you no insults, I greatly appreciate good dialogue as I know not everything and can learn a lot from all here…But lowering ourselves to Lewinsky tactics only makes us divide…Let’s keep it civil upon disagreements..
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 8:46pm@Pajamash
I didn’t address this: No, we are not wrong for purchasing oil, but when did purchase mean to build a Naval Base, a lot troops in their country and influence the governments so much they are viewed as puppets…
My concern for us is Arabs coming here to setup shop is coming faster then we believe… we are piss broke, while OPEC countries sit on cash and oil…Could they buy US debt for land and build bases to protect it?
Americans would flip…And rightfully so..
Report Post »home_of_the_brave
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 9:05pm“Resistance does not require a firearm”?!?!
Is it just me or does that ominous statement make anyone else uncomfortable?
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 9:25pmBin Laden was unarmed…
So were the innocent people on 9-11-01. I still wish they had fed him to the pigs.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 9:28pmShowtime,
Those pics don’t prove they watched the whole operation live, but if they did, it was a bad move. I wouldn’t want to run the risk of lefty ideologues and Islamist sympathizers getting in the way, if I were the Commander in charge of that operation. What’s the point, anyway? They can get the video after the fact.
The whole live feed MO bothers me greatly. IMO, it sets a bad precedent. If it is true, I see it as another dictatorial move on Hussein’s part.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 11:37pmIndeed. He often stated he would kill Americans. He’s been put down. One less threat.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 6:11ambuffoons are running the white house,keep it zipped….
Report Post »mill
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:48amThere is something not right with all this…
With all the cheering over the death of OBL we are going to be hit really hard.
Of course I am believing BHO is pleased about all of this. He didn’t want OBL taken alive, he would have talked and implicated our government.
Now we are inflaming a bunch of “mental patients: in the middle east with all our rhetoric . Pictures?.. We are not dealing with rational people ….
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 11:47amkryptonite
When he said that, I got a gut sinking feeling too.
Sneak attack on the 2nd Amendment. Secret arrests, secret prison labor camps.
Report Post »US_SOLDIER
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 6:02pmTECHENGINEER: Yes thats the reason they have a hatred for us. Initially we supported the then (mujahadeen) taliban along with Usama by supplying them weapons when the Russians were in Afghanistan. Years later when Saddam invaded Kuwait Usama offered his army of muslim fighters to the Kuwaiti government but they decided to let us come free them. That enraged Usama because it was a muslim fight and he felt offended that they would chose the West. Then we began to occupy their lands with various bases and interfere in their affairs and attempt to tell them how to run their country. That is the root of the problem, its a foriegn policy issue not the days of the crusades where its christians vs. muslims. If people would only take two seconds and think about as rational human beings instead a beating the war drum they could see it
Report Post »Wingnut80
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 6:16pmTechengineer11 “So the man thought he was entitled to his opinion? Thought he was free to think and speak out loud? lol Nah, still just a damn slave Mendy baby.. Don’t veer too far out of the mainstream my friend”
His right to freedom of speech only guarantees no interference by the govt. Employers have the right to set standards of behaviour for employees. If they feel an employees public statements reflect badly on the company there is plenty of precedent for disciplining those employees if in violation of their contract.
Too many people think that Freedom of Speech means there should be no consequences for speech people find offensive. For example, The Dixie Chicks had the right to criticize Prez Bush while in a foreign country. The govt was prohibited from retaliating. But people that found their remarks offensive had the right to exercise their freedom of expression by boycotting (and encouraging the boycotting) of the chicks.
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