Politics

White House: Jerusalem Is Not the Capital of Israel

One of the more loudly trumpeted developments from former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney’s international trip has been his open embrace of the idea that the city of Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, a statement that marks him as one of the more pro-Israeli candidates in recent history.

So of course, no one should be surprised that the White House has immediately gone on record saying he’s wrong, and that they do not believe Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, but that Jerusalem’s status should be resolved via “negotiations.” This is a far more honest approach than the equivocation that has been standard from White House Press Secretary Jay Carney. CNSNews reports:

In what marks a decisive difference in the presidential campaign, one day after Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney called Jerusalem the capital of Israel, the White House asserted that Romney’s position was different from that of the Obama administration.

“Our view is that that is a different position than this administration holds. It’s the view of this administration that the capital should be determined in final status negotiations between parties,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters Monday.

“I would remind you that that is the position that has been held by previous administrations both Democratic and Republican. So, if Mr. Romney disagrees with that position, he is also disagreeing with positions taken by previous presidents like Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan,” Earnest added.

Strong words. Also, clearly a strong about switch from the President, seeing as there is clear evidence that this was President Obama’s position when he last ran for President:

It’s quite a shift to go from “Jerusalem is the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided” to “the capital should be determined in final status negotiations between parties.” One must wonder what changed – that is, aside from the President’s need to motivate his base.

Comments (165)

  • soybomb315
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:41pm

    Romney is lucky the democrats are that stupid

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:45pm

      Indeed.

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:34pm

      If I am not mistaken by law signed by then President Clinton Jerusalem is the only capital recognized by America.

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    • dealer@678
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:47pm

      Jerusalem belongs to Jesus and Jesus will have the final say

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    • 1947
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:27pm

      Knowing Obama he will make the statement that Cairo is the capital of Isreal

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    • Individualism
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:15pm

      it still won’t be enough to give him a chance if he keeps doing what hes doing, that is what’s sad and how bad Romney is as a candidate. Obama can do anything against him and still win.

      Individualism  
    • db321
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:29am

      Obama will have more flexibility to deal with Israel in his second term. Did you hear that God, back off, Obama’s in charge here. Obama will decide who the Capital of the “Apple of God’s Eye” is.

      If you don’t mind God, will just sit over here in the corner and watch how you handle this situation. We promise not to laugh.

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    • lylejk
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:48am

      Looks like BO cut off his nose despite his face. lol

      Another 10% of the Jewish vote gone. Keep on doing this and maybe Romney might get 30% of the American Jewish vote. lol

      It’s sad when I, as a Christian man, support Israel’s right to exist more then most Americans of Jewish heritage (I refuse to hyphenate a true American citizen) then they do. :)

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:36am

      Israel is lucky the rest of us agree with Romney and Obama will be back in Chicago January 21, 2013.

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:41am

      lylejk: I’m Jewish, and I couldn’t agree with you more. Liberal Jews are mentally impaired. They have lost their capacity to think.

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    • Matt
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:46am

      @Altair. Christ’s name is Jesus. Actually, its Joshua. Jesus is a translation from hebrew into greek. Jesus is the transliteration of the greek version. Joshua is the transliteration of the hebrew version.

      Christ is actually not a name at all, but a title. It is the greek word that is the equivalent of the hebrew word which transliterates as “Messiah” in english.

      So basically, his real name is Joshua, and his title is The Messiah.

      Joshua the Messiah, not Jesus Christ, unless you are Greek. So you get a clue, and stop telling other people what to do while you are at it. :)

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    • Bill Rowland
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:31am

      There are so many claims for the city from so many religous groups but the Jews were there first. This is their historic capitol and can be both their capitol and an open city if only (I know I’m dreaming) others can quit fighting and agree to live in peace.

      OMG Nov 6, 2012

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    • acovenantinblood
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:26am

      Democrats are stupid? they have been bamboozling the right for 100 years. Right under their noses and no one saw it coming. What about McCain and Boehner not backing Bachmann? That wasn‘t the most intelligent thing I’ve seen in a while, and last time I checked they had an R next to to their name. Democrats are misguided and deceived but they are organized, ruthless and intelligent. Don’t underestimate them. People underestimated Lenin and Hitler too. The only One who will get us out of this mess is God. He allowed us to get into it. We must ask ourselves and Him why.

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    • starman70
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:48am

      The utter lack of historical knowledge by Obama is truly stunning. How can someone who attended 3 different universities NOT know that Jerusalem has always been the capitol of Isreal up until the Romans destroyed it in 70 AD. Of course, Obama is pandering to his Islamic buddies. He won’t admit the truth.

      Maybe, someday, we will have a president with the guts and cojones to declare that America recognizes Jerusalem as the real capitol of the country. Of course, it will take a president who reads and believes in GOD’S word.

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    • georgette
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 9:59am

      ..God’s Word ..or……….sparrows expelling gaseous opinions……

      I’m this close to wetting my pants trying not to laugh.
      fail…………………………………….bwahahahahahahahahahaha

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    • Yitzhak Floyman
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 1:43pm

      Jerusalem is NOT the capital of Israel. Furthermore, the international campaign to Boycott, Divest and Sanction Israel is very popular in the American Jewish Community where there is a strong tradition of standing up for the human rights of the oppressed and abused, including Palestinians. American Jews have always been active in efforts to improve conditions for ALL people. Jews were active in the campaigns to abolish slavery, secure womens suffrage, build strong trade unions, defend civil rights, end war, AND support the right of Palestinians to self-determination. When Israel violates human rights that country must be criticized and punished like ALL countries should be criticized and punished. No double standards!

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 2:41pm

      “Praise be to the Lord, the God of Israel, who with his hands has fulfilled what he promised with his mouth to my father David. For he said, ‘Since the day I brought my people out of Egypt, I have not chosen a city in any tribe of Israel to have a temple built so that my Name might be there, nor have I chosen anyone to be ruler over my people Israel. But now I have chosen Jerusalem for my Name to be there, and I have chosen David to rule my people Israel.’ 2 Chronicles 6:4-6

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    • mecanic
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 11:53am

      obummer is one of the biggest LIARS i’ve ever heard. mr. obummer do you think just because you say it it’s true???? your a LIAR. YOU CAN SAY IT TILL H*LL FREEZES OVER, IT IS STILL A LYE, LYER. i will be glad when they LOCK your LYING-AZZ UP, with all the other criminals. VOTE HIS LYING-AZZ OUT 2012.

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  • Jason342
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:36pm

    THE FREAKIN KNESSET IS IN JERUSALEM!!! If Jerusalem isn’t the capitol of Israel, D.C. Isn’t the capitol of the US. PERIOD.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:44pm

      I expect even the U.S. capital to moved to Chicago soon. I hear the former location of Cabrini-Green is open.

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    • Obama_Sham
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:53pm

      Candy man… Candy man… Candy man…

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    • historyguy48
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:57pm

      Personally I was hoping that space aliens would come and steal Washington DC. Of course if they have to deal with our politicians they will only give it back. Darn!

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    • hsr917
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:03pm

      Jason, I was thinking the same thing!

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    • Bikkiboo
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:12pm

      Our capital should be moved to somewhere in Kansas, which will be the center of the CONSTITUTIONAL United States of America – The America which will have to separate from the OBAMANATION, so true Americans can restore the country to what the Founders intended. Let the OBAMANATION flounder on its own while those in “fly-over” country grow their capitalistic, free market economy with their moral values, take responsibility for yourself but help those truly in need, small government way. It won‘t be but a few years before the OBAMANATION is begging to join us because they’ll be bankrupt!

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:25pm

      OK, folks. We’re getting a little confused here. It’s “capital.”

      It’s not that Hussein denies that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. He denies the existence of Israel, period. It’s Palestine, capital Al-Quds. Are we clear, America?

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    • JACKTHETOAD
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:38pm

      D.C. hasn’t been the Capitol since FDR.

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:47pm

      Tactically speaking, Kansas is a good place for a capital.

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:47pm

      And Jason, when Glenn went to Israel he had a sign posted saying JERUSALEM and I was fascinated with that sign–couldn’t take my eyes off it- for right in the middle – it just popped USA. Rather weird, hmmmm? Obama is not as bright as he imagines but yeah, he could be related to Ramses and we all know how that turned out.

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  • Derfel Cadarn
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:34pm

    The question is,wh0o are you to decide. Washington hasd no place voicing its opinion in this matter. It would be the same as Moscow deciding the Washington wasn’t Capital of the U.S. ,not their effing business. Just as this is NOT ours. Now you begin to realize why nthe rest of the world hates us ,we cannot m,ind our own business.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:49pm

      I guess we should ask Mexico where the state capitols of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada and Colorado should be located. The Israelis should have cleared Jerusalem and the Temple Mount in 1967 and there would be no discussion.

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  • Rayblue
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:32pm

    The capitol of America will be decided by Israel
    when the difficulty of the current administration displays in identifying reality
    has passed in November.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:30pm

    Do you know what? I don’t think GOD gives a hoot in hell about what this particular “wh” thinks. As a matter of fact, I suspect HE IS growing weary of their ignorance. Be good to see HIM shake them lose, won’t it?

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  • chips1
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:27pm

    After thinking over my last post, I feel that Obama is going to claim that the capitol of the U.S. is in Kabul.

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:00pm

      Well, if that doesn’t curdle our milk, I don’t know what would.

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:10pm

      Maybe he’ll feel more “ flexible” and be honest enough to declare Moscow ? !

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  • MiCurmudgeon
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:27pm

    Sure, why not? After all didn’t we check with the Canadians and Mexicans before we picked our capital city? NOT!!!

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  • dmerwin
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:25pm

    So now the Obama administration decides what city is each nations capitol? The arrogance of these B(*&^rds is really amazing.

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:59pm

      Arrogance is the mark of the Left. These guys think they are smarter than God which is why they are atheists. And Marxists. God and the Ten Commandments have been replaced by Big Brother , hate , and the Rules for Radicals . New code. But very bad juju . Dysfunctional and destructive.

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    • woodyb
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:02am

      Barber, you seem to forget, Obama thinks HE IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Ghengas
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:25pm

    Ok. Dallas is the capital of America. Jackasses

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  • MODEL82A1
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:24pm

    This is a No-Brainer for Obama (and also happens actually jibe with his actual “beliefs”, such as they are). He knows full well that he has the vast majority of the American Jewish vote sewn up, no matter what, so why not pander to all the Anti-Israel/Pro-Islamist Democrats, too? (Sorry for the redundancy there.)

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:01pm

      Yes. Which ties in nicely with the international anti-American military, and anti-capitalism crowd ! Ah, Obama’s angry , anarchy base. The Black Bloc / OWS kids.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:56pm

      @MODEL
      …so why not pander to all the Anti-Israel/Pro-Islamist Democrats, too?
      ———
      You’re on the right track, but it’s far worse than that. Hussein got campaign donations from GAZA (Hamas-controlled territory) in 2008. When caught, he didn’t deny it. Instead, he claimed that he had returned the money. See OBAMAS FOREIGN DONORS: The media averts its eyes
      http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html

      One day you’ll burn in hell, Hussein, you worker of iniquity.

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  • Oldguy89
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:24pm

    Ok so he still has the gay vote, and he does continue to buy the poor vote with more entitlements, and lets not forget the leftists, progressive, democrates. If American Jews are dumb enough to vote for this guy again they well deserve what they get.

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    • lexington_green
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:38pm

      his base:
      illegal aliens and their associates
      public sector unions
      marxists
      blacks
      homosexuals
      muslims
      anti-chrisitans
      america haters
      and the incurably dumb
      or, some combination of the above.

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  • sawbuck
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:23pm

    Well that one way to wipe Israel off the Map…!

    Claim they never existed in the first place…!

    This is going to be the most important election in U.S. history no doubt..!!

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  • MCDAVE
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:19pm

    So what city does Israel claim to be their Capital city? What business is it for us?

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  • Gregb
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:19pm

    I am praying that God has his hand on this next election. If so, then the communist in the oval office will be finding a new place to rest.

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  • Stehekin912
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:18pm

    Ahhhh…I get it. A sovereign nation is not allowed to determine where its own capital is.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:26pm

      Barack will decide!

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    • lexington_green
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:27pm

      i wonder if the citizens of our sovereign nation will be deciding anything for ourselves if this dude gets re-elected.

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  • Gregb
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:17pm

    unbelievable… it is written thousands of years ago that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel…
    get rid of this muslim wannabe president.

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    • Wolfgang the Gray
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:36pm

      Obama is indeed a traitor to this country and our allies. God is going to have a field day when BHO comes knocking at the pearly gates.

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    • MAX0O1
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:52pm

      I am with you. More important the LORD is with ISRAEL!

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:35pm

      @WOLFGANG THE GRAY
      God is going to have a field day when BHO comes knocking at the pearly gates.
      —-
      The closest Barack will ever get to the pearly gates will be in his dreams — but that’s just an empty phrase. People in hell don’t have dreams.

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  • chips1
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:17pm

    Trying to negotiate with Obama is like trying to negotiate with muslim terrorists. Same Same.

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  • AllLost
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:16pm

    The American Jewish support for Obama has provided me with great insights. I am now seriously researching the German Jewish support for Hitler prior to his selection as chancellor

    No, I am not equating Obama with Hitler. I am stating that Obama is bad fro the Jewish state and yet the Jews of America support him which is very strange to me.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:27pm

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zpYQJkBQp0&feature=related

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:31pm

      They really are far removed from the hazards of being Jewish in much of the world. I cannot fathom how financially, they align with the democrats. Flies in the face of self interest. I believe with conviction that conservative Americans of any religious background are more in tune with modern Israel than are most American Jews. I find this very sad and unfortunate.

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    • Seabass82
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:32pm

      That would be pretty interesting to know.

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    • MAX0O1
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:53pm

      I agree!

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:03pm

      ALL: agree. Am sure there were many Jews who said that ” Hitler isn’t really as bad as people say. He really doesn’t mean to destroy the German Jews. I am not going to leave Germany, the home of my birth .”

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  • JUSTANOTHEROPINION
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:15pm

    Just as in his 2008 Campaign he is telling the American people what he thinks they want to hear not what he actually believes and will really do if he’s re-elected.

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    • ChristinaP55
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:24pm

      Absolutely correct!! It‘s one reason why I don’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
      He’s got to go!

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  • bankerpapaw
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:14pm

    Tell that to God.

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  • Danthebugman
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:13pm

    Since when does this prez decide who, what, when, where, and why Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel?

    This man is a lunatic and the closest thing to the “anti-christ” as ever has been. I am ashamed of this demander and chief. November…can’t come soon enough.

    Nobama….go ahead and alienate the entire Jewish base, why don’t you?

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  • RJJinGadsden
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:12pm

    So much for that law that Bill Clinton signed in the ’90s declaring the U.S. recognition that Jerusalem is Israel’s capital. 0bama has waved his magic wand once again saying that we do not recognize the capital nor the U.S. law. Must be nice to be the king.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXT-nYHOLsU

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:26pm

      Isn’t Auschwitz the capital? I’m sure Obama would agree.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:42pm

      The Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 is a public law of the United States passed by the 104th Congress on October 23, 1995. It was passed for the purposes of initiating and funding the relocation of the Embassy of the United States in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, no later than May 31, 1999, and attempted to withhold 50 percent of the funds appropriated to the StateDepartment specifically for ‘‘Acquisition and Maintenance of Buildings Abroad’’ as allocated in fiscal year 1999 until the United States Embassy in Jerusalem had officially opened. The act also called for Jerusalem to remain an undivided city and for it to be recognized as the capital of the State of Israel. Israel’s declared capital is Jerusalem, but this is not internationally recognized, pending final status talks in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
      It does seem that other countries do not recognize it either.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:59pm

      Hey, if Obama wanted to get Jewish support, he would simply move the US embassy to Jerusalem.

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    • barber2
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:07pm

      Maybe someone can bring this up with Clinton when he sells his soul and comes to speak in Barack Obama’s behalf . How could he ? Guess it depends on more of that “ meaning of is is ” moment for old Bill. Selling his soul for this Marxist Obama. Wonder what threat / bribe the Chicago gang offered him ? Hillary as VP ?

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:13pm

      @barber2
      Wait…..he has a soul? I thought the heartless were also soulless. I know he doesn’t have any Nads, those are in Hillary’s purse.

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    • Calimann83
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:28pm

      @RJ: that’s interesting, I need to read up about that. My question is what happened? because when I was there in 2008 the U.S. embassy was still very much in Tel Aviv.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:59pm

      CALIMANN83, As far as I can tell it has been in constant argument. As I recall, Clinton had his arm twisted to do the right thing (to borrow a favorite 0bama phrase) then I believe he dragged his feet on the funding. I have no idea what Bush did about it, if anything. I hope you enjoyed your visit. I’ve always wanted to visit Israel.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 10:05pm

      BARBER2, Undoubtedly 0bama has a clear cut reason for inviting Bubba on board for this position. He is simply buying Clinton off, giving him more political exposure, all while hoping that he keeps his big mouth shut. I don’t know, but Bill does tend to shoot from the hip quite often so, “0” might want to make sure that Axelhole, Carney(barker) or Vallerie better not piss off Hillary.

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 11:51pm

      “No, we didn’t say their capital is somewhere else besides Jerusalem. We just annulled a law that said it was there, that’s all.”

      I can see the WH running with this

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:10pm

    I thought most of the former presidents agreed that the U.S. Embassy should be moved to the capital of Isreal – Jerusalem. So what is it? Capital or not. Do they just say that and not really mean it?

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    • CatharineDenver
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 3:39pm

      When I was in Jerusalem in May, I took pictures of the Knesset (the Jewish House of Parliament). In the 1st week of May, the Australian flag was flying outside denoting what country was conducting business inside. So that is where they conduct international affairs.

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  • kaydeebeau
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:09pm

    I think I’ll go with the “opnion” of the Covenant Maker ….2 Chronicles chapt 6, 7 & 8

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:06pm

    The vile, evil, bottom-feeding administration opens another window of destruction. They are quite through in November. All hands on deck.

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    • Gregb
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:21pm

      I am praying that you are right and that Holder can not stop the correct people from enforcing voter registration in Florida and Texas

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    • lexington_green
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 8:32pm

      they are already priming the pump in the propaganda machine that used to be called the press, claiming disenfranchisement of minorities, and that the koch brothers are going to buy the election – which will of course mandate our hero holder riding in to see if those bad repubs rigged the vote. yeah. what a bunch of class this guy exudes. we have to be ready to be brave in the face of some scary stuff that could happen here.

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    • DEFCON4
      Posted on July 30, 2012 at 9:02pm

      It’s Not the People Who Vote that Count ; It’s the People Who Count the Votes! –Josef Stalin

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