White House Releases Obama’s Long-Form Birth Certificate
- Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:06am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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After years of speculation, and recent weeks of controversy, the White House has released a long-form copy of President Obama’s birth certificate from Hawaii.
The certificate is signed by the delivery doctor, Obama’s mother and the local registrar. His mother, then 18, signed her name (Stanley) Ann Dunham Obama.
The form says Barack Hussein Obama II was born at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, within the city limits of Honolulu.
There’s no mention of religion. It says his father Barack Hussein Obama, age 25, was African and born in Kenya and his mother was Caucasian and born in Wichita, Kan. Obama’s mother and the doctor signed the certificate on Aug. 7 and 8.
Hawaii’s registrar certified the new photocopy of the document provided to the White House on April 25, 2011.
In addition to releasing the birth certificate, the White House also released copies of its communication with the state of Hawaii. Those documents show that the plan to release the birth certificate has been in place since last week. On Friday, April 22, Obama sent a letter to the state requesting two copies of the document:
In response, the state director of health said that while the policy is not to release physical copies, she was making an exception:
In a blog post on the White House website, Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer explained the reason for releasing the birth certificate:
The President believed the distraction over his birth certificate wasn’t good for the country. It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the American people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country. Therefore, the President directed his counsel to review the legal authority for seeking access to the long form certificate and to request on that basis that the Hawaii State Department of Health make an exception to release a copy of his long form birth certificate. They granted that exception in part because of the tremendous volume of requests they had been getting.
Pfeiffer said the above document is “exactly what the President received” when he requested his birth certificate. “In fact,” he said, “the document posted on the campaign website is what Hawaiians use to get a driver’s license from the state and the document recognized by the Federal Government and the courts for all legal purposes. That’s because it is the birth certificate.”
“This is not and should not be an open question,” he added.
This is a breaking story. Updates will be added. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Comments (1110)
florida123
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:22amIt looks official too me, it has the doctors signature on the form and it is a certified copy from the state of Hawaii. It would be what anyone would recieve if they requested a certified copy of live birth. So Im satisfied unless someone can prove it is fake.
Report Post »zeban48
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:50amThis is not a true BC for there are several very important things missing that is on an orginial BC.
Report Post »1. Is the physcial of birth
2. Is the state offical seal
3. The BC says Birth Certificate not Live Birth
Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:04amGo Zeban Go! The antichrist can make any certificate he wants to!
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:06amI agree with Zeban. This story is a lie. More smoke and mirrors from this regime. But then honesty was not this regimes policy from the beginning. WEST/ CAIN 2012 or CAIN/WEST 2012 I dont care which order.
Report Post »Coffeehead
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:54amCertified by who?
Report Post »ObamaBinLyin
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:09amActually, if you requested a certified long-form copy of your birth certificate, it would be considered an uncertified copy without a SEAL AFFIXED. And yours would also have a copy of your birth footprints.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:02pm“The BC says Birth Certificate not Live Birth”
Thank you! I was hoping someone else would say that. Of course I was being satirical when I said it an hour ago. I was making fun of people to make insane arguments like this. But it pleases me that my satire is reflected in an actual case of idiocy.
Report Post »NatalieF
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:12pmWhy in the world did it take the doctor 4 days to sign it and the baby momma 3 days? Perhaps she was traveling back from Kenya…
Report Post »bhh
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:22amLooks like the real thing. I wonder what Abercrombie was worried about?
Report Post »SAYNOTOSOCIALISM
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:21amThe BC IS NOT the issue… he has DUAL citizenship!
Report Post »Windwalker
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:35amWhen the dust settles on this issue, if it ever settles, it is not going to be an issue of a birth certificate, it is going to be the issuance of passports, other than U.S., i.e., when, where and why they were issued, and legal Asian adoption by a stepfather named Soetoro.
Report Post »Alvin691
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:07amBingo.
Report Post »PalinPal
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:42pmThere should also be another BC since he was legally adopted. The BC is just the beginning…….
I must also say that I’m extremely disappointed in Glenn Beck. What happened to his favorite saying
Report Post »“The Truth has NO Agenda”
Well We the People want to know the truth!!! Mocking and ridiculing we “BIRFFERS” is a little more than Heartbreaking.
We have Stood beside Glenn. We have Stood Up for Glenn. We All have been mocked and ridiculed for listening & watching Glenn Beck. For him of All people to laugh, mock & treat us like we are Stupid and Incappable of critical thinking about O’s BC and records makes Glenn Beck a Giant Hypocrite.
I am an Extreme Insider. I had to turn Glenn Beck Off today after hearing them all LAUGH. Seems if it‘s not on Glenn Becks agenda then we shouldn’t ask questions.
Oh yeah that brings me back to another one of Glenn favorites“Question with Bloldness”.
Who is Scamming Who Here???
Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:44pmDual citizenship is not a disqualifier for being president.
You all seem to think the term “natural boirn citizen” is a term specifically created to apply to presidential eligibility and that the definition of it is found somewhere other than in U.S. Law. Natural born citizen merely means one who is a citizen at birth. The U.S. Code defines this more clearly, and nowhere does it mention dual citizenship as being relevant.
Report Post »Sion
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:20amI thought his name was Barry and he changed it to Barack??
Report Post »cece959
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:20amI’m curious. I thought his mother was married to Lelo Soetoro when he was born, because his name was Barry Soetoro before it was BHO. So how can there be a birth certificate with his ‘new’ name on it?
Report Post »IowaWoman
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:35amYou are wrong, he was supposedly BHO then adopted and became Barry Soetoro. there is no record of him changing it back to BHO. Obummer says he changed it. He does not say when where or how. in 1961 you had to have 2 American Citizen parents to become President.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:36amObama‘s mother was married to Obama’s father before she maried Soetero, not after. You’re confused because so many Obama-haters like to call him “Barry Soetero.:”
Report Post »APEXIdaho
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:00amYou still have to be a natural born citizen to be President and he is not.
Read this:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
Report Post »psst
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:18am@Lloyd
Report Post »I like to call him Barry Soetoro the Moslem communist.
Hope you don’t mind.
But if you do, I don’t mind.
Man with no name
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:20amI thought that it would say that his father was Rev. Martin Luther King, and his mother was Mother Theresa.
Report Post »stephen
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:39amLol. HAHAHAHAHA! Post of the very short day IMO.
Seriously though, I’m curious to see another certificate from Hawaii and compare to see if anything was left out. I agree that the focus has been a little too much on this topic, but as a people we can’t just keep throwing our hands in the air and saying, “That’s good enough,“ or ”I quit,” anytime we get some bs explanation from our representatives and the MSM. It just shows that however much we hate to say it, we have gotten lazy as a people.
Report Post »“If only someone could hand us all the answers, and do all the work for us…..” Sounds familiar…..
ChiefGeorge
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:10pmUmmm
Report Post »MalinkaZ
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:19amAre you kidding me? If this is the birth certificate, then we may as well pack up and all go home… it says his name is Barak H Obama… So he was born with this name? Give me a break folks.
Report Post »ric
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:12amYes he was
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:21pmIt was his father’s name. That happens a lot, babies being born after their fathers.
Report Post »Konacow
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:19amNo even a good Photo Shop copy, this is as fake as it comes, I seen kids in school do better at making forms up, nice try Obama, get your real one from AFRICA !!!!
Report Post »The Toad
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:18amTrump gets results! Nobody could get him to show it for the last two years except Trump! When Trump talks the White House listens!
Report Post »airportengineer
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:26amTotally Agree with ya!
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:35amYea I will give him his props because no one else but him got BO to show it. Kudos for getting something done Trump. Think youre too much of an egomaniac for me but I guess thats better than a traitor egomaniac.
Report Post »Malcom0983
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:17amWith everything that has been going on, why release it now? Why wait so long? This isn’t a new question. Being a “birther” isn’t anything new? Why spend all that money just to have it release? I don’t trust him. Did it take this long to get Hawaii on-board to make a forgery? Everyone that has doubted this man from the start, don’t be fooled now. Something is amiss.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:41amTrump and Soros have a history together. I wouldn’t believe anything Obama puts out there. Besides, this “certificate” doesn’t have a state seal. Don’t they normally have a state embossed seal?
Report Post »Gulfcoastman
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:17amUh wait! That still looks like the short form ‘Certificate of Live Birth.” Where is the long form with the Doctor’s signature?
Report Post »Agree — this is distracting us from the real issues and problems. Probably on purpose.
kickagrandma
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:17amhe lies. he serves the father of lies, satan.
Watch what he is doing, not what he is saying, people.
PRAY for GOD’S spirit to protect us and hold us close. I believe time is short.
GOD BLESS AND PROTECT IN JESUS’ PRECIOUS NAME, AMEN!
Report Post »Hephzibah
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:47amI agree, Grandma.
Report Post »bew0576
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:07amPray is exactly what we need to do! You either serve God or Satan and considering the lies that come out of his mouth on a daily basis, it’s hard to believe that he serves Christ. He has the ability to steer this country in a more Godly direction, too bad he doesn’t. Obama really needs prayer……….
Report Post »kurwa
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:40amgo take your medis grandma before the men in white coats take you to the white room again
Report Post »ZOMBIE JESUS LOVES ME
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:10amYou motherf#ckers are killing me!
Just come out and say it. You’re always going to hate him … because he will always be black!
I hope your people burn in H-E double hockey sticks!
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:15pmDidn’t a soldier go to jail because Obama did not show his BC then, why now? Was it worth sending one of our best to jail over your stupidity, president idiot?
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:37pmOh ZOMBIE man, lighten up! Go have a beer and dry your tears. Your beloved racism is dead and gone. (You shouldn’t have voted for Obama!)
Report Post »forestnomad
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:10pm“Racism is dead and gone”? WTF really?
45% of Mississippi Republicans believe that interracial marriage should be illegal.
To deny that there isn’t at least a nascent racial component most of the time is utterly ludicrous.
Report Post »mrsclark
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:16amWere they not just saying that NOONE could get the long form birth certificate and that if he did he would be violating the law. So now all of a sudden he can?
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:26amYea thats one of my favorites too.
The woman who worked at records in hawaii said the only way he could do it was to come down there to see it and if they asked for a copy the same certificate of live birth is what he would get that he had already showed the people.
Either BO broke the law to get that thing, was lying and said he didnt have it, or the records lady was lying to cover up BO not wanting his records out.
Report Post »teachermitch32
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:16amI’ll believe it when I see it, handle it, have it investigated…..etc. Don’t really care right now. Bigger fish to fry.
I thought all the officials and policies (laws) in HI said they could not, would not release a LFBC to anyone (not even the person on the certificate). Kinda puts their testimony in the mud. This is a quagmire and birthers are stuck in it. We need to move on from this subject and expose Ohbummer for what he is doing to our great country.
Report Post »StevenL1955
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:16amBeing the former Jouralist I am, where is the rest of it, what nationality is his Father? Why did Hawaii just this morning say no mre copies of BC will be allowed for anyone?
Why only the second half of the Cert?
Report Post »Malcom0983
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:22amIt says his dad is African.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:27amThe certificate gives his father’s place of birth as Kenya, which in 1961 would make Obama Sr. a British subject. It also says his mother’s place of birth was Kansas, which makes Obama Jr. a natural-born US citizen.
Next question!
Report Post »APEXIdaho
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:43amRead this:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
Report Post »alcarfl
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:47amHere’s an assignment. Go find out who holds 151 61 10640 and 106402 in the Live Birth Certificates from the alleged hospital in Hawaii. My guess is the dates don’t jive, if, in fact there is such a sequence of numbers in their records archives. Could be a book deal in your findings.
Report Post »KTsayz
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:15am@ALCARFL Susan Nordyke, who was born Aug 5, 1961, at the same hospital, has the number 61 10637. So her number is before BO’s yet she was born the day after… hmmmm
http://nocompromisemedia.com/2009/07/28/unveiled-hawaiis-1961-long-form-birth-certificates/
This does prove BO’s ineligibility since his father was not a US citizen, not even a permanent resident, just a student. And his mother, at 18 years of age, failed the other requirement of not having lived in the United States for 5 consecutive years after her 16th birthday. There are too many reasons, but take your pick of why BO has 3 strikes against him.
Report Post »Bullcop34
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:33amLloyd, no. You are wrong. Parents is plural and he must have been born to citizen parentS in order to be a natural citizen of the US.
Report Post »dawnmms
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:29am@Draco FYI you need “parents” implies plural, meaning BOTH parents need to be US Citizens at the time of birth for a child to be considered “Natural Born Citizen” In actuality, Barack was born with Dual Citizenship, which was later replaced with Indonesian Citizenship (Because Indonesia does NOT allow Dual Citizenship) when Lolo Soetoro adopted Barack. At best providing when Barack upon reaching age of majority “repatriates” himself and renounces his Indonesian citizenship. Then he would be and “NATURALIZED” US Citizen who would NOT be eligible under the Constitution to hold the office of President of US. BTW there is no apparent record of BO doing this.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:46pmDawnmms
@Draco FYI you need “parents” implies plural, meaning BOTH parents need to be US Citizens at the time of birth for a child to be considered “Natural Born Citizen” In actuality,
That’s not what the Supreme Court says. They ruled over a hundred years ago that anyone born here is a natural born citizen regardless of parentage, and that’s been the law of the land ever since.
Obama did not need to be repatriated and naturalized when he returned from Indonesia at the age of ten. He was never not a citizen under the laws of this country. You have to be an adult to give up your citizenship. You can’t have it taken away from you as a child.
Didn’t you ever notice that no responsible Conservative spokesman has ever spouted any of this not eligible even if he was born here garbage? No politician, not even Trump, no pundit, not even Hannity. Most of Obama’s Republican political opponents are lawyers and the rest all have lawyers. Why wouldn’t they say something if they knew he was disqualified by facts that he never disputed? Why do people whose only knowledge of this subject comes from loony websites that tell them anything they want to hear think that they know more about the law than actual lawyers?
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 11:18amThank you, Chet!
Report Post »MySacredHonor
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:16amWould you blasted Birthers just dry up and go away… this is such a crock of crap! there are SOOO many reasons to not like this guy… why do we need this BS???
Report Post »jpjuve
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:28amuh…to charge him and his left wing buddies with treason.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:14amIs the ink dry already on it?
Report Post »psst
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:54amUM, finished drying yesterday.
Report Post »Some things takes time. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
IndyGuy
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:14amIt’s a long form “Certificate of live birth”…Still not the real deal…
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:18amCome on man, good enough. There are plenty of valid reasons to oppose this man and his policies, move on.
Report Post »bry
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:34amYou’re both right!
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:01amwith Gonzo on this one…
GAWD you birther people are DUMB!! there are a lot more reasons to doubt his eligibility to be President than his birth…his mother was a natural born US citizen…so that means he is TOO!!! don’t give this crap argument about…the Constitution requires both parents…even if she gave birth in Kenya…he STILL would be a natural born US citizen…we have NEVER excluded.. NEVER excluded someone from being a natural born US citizen because both parents weren’t natural born.. NEVER…
now if you want to go after him using the fact that he was adopted by an Indonesian step father… changed his name to Barry Sentoro…received an Indonesian passport…registered in school as a Muslim, practiced Islam, and went to a Madrassa…okay…right there with you on that one…
if you want to go after him using the fact that he reportedly received a British passport when he traveled to Pakistan in the early 80′s..still under the name of Barry Sentoro…okay..right there with you…
if you want to go after him using the fact that the United States does NOT recognize DUAL CITIZENSHIP…and you CAN’T run for office if you are a dual citizen…OKAY..right there with you…
if you want to go after him using the fact that he NEVER registered for Selective Services under the name Barry Sentoro..the name he was using at age 18 and the name his birth name had been changed to legally…okay..right there with you…
even if you want to use the fact that the Selective Services form he did eventually register under and is on file in Chicago, has Barack Hussien Obama Jr on it…was filed incorrectly…was written on a form that didn’t exist… OKAY…right there with you too…
but the dual citizenship will dismissed as ignorance on his part…since he had been living in Hawaii since age 11…he didn’t think to renounce his Indonesian citizenship…the Selective Service form is simply illegal..a misdemeanor at best…not making him ineligibile for President..and getting the British passport so he could travel to Pakistan…also illegal but not making him ineligible…fine..OKAY..right there with you..
he is a CROOK… KNEW that…
he is deceptive…KNEW that…
he is a Marxist..a Socialist..a Globalist.. KNEW that…
but GET OFF THIS STUPID BIRTHER ARGUMENT…YOU ARE JUST AS BAD AS THE 9-11 TRUTHER IDIOTS…
okay…enough..i am done..if you talk about this idiotic birther crap again…i will never hold you credible on this board or any other that i frequent…
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:09amVRW Conspirator
Report Post »I don’t think birthers are dumb. I wanted to see his b.c. too. I’ve seen it, it took way too long but, I’ve seen it. Time to move on.
Mandors
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:18amVRW
Actually, if he was born in Kenya, he would not be a natural born citizen for constitutional purposes, because his father was not a citizen. John McCain’s parents were both citizens, and regardless, as everyone forgets, Panama was US soil back then.
Your other points are interesting. BTW–did people use “African” as a race in 1961. I would have thought it would have been “*****.” Note: “Caucasian” not “White” or “American” or “European.”
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:14amThis is indicative of the fear the administration has for Trump, or any of the GOP possibles. And once the b-certificate problem is resolved; if at all, then Obama really has problems. He will have to face real issues and the conservative environment that is increasing will make a rocky road much bumpier for him. Anyone could beat him in an election at this time and these libs know it.
Report Post »boston-rightwinger
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:12amGive the people a little data and maybe they will go away. Obama is getting nervous that they will find out that his college days show that he was a well below average student. Hitler, the other socialist, was a below average student, promised the world (literally) to his people, and constantly took the rights away from them. We need to cut funding to the White House now.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:45amEinstein failed math and was a drop out as was Bill Gates, what’s your point?
Report Post »1chancey1
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:48amThat is more the exception than the rule. Obama is certainly no Einstein or Gates.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:40amWho even says Bill Gates is a genius? I don’t remember anyone ever making that claim. He got lucky with Microsoft and the rest is history.
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:45amsimpletruths- get your facts straight
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:12am9:11 AM EDT, 04/27/2011
Let me be the first to say it: the long-form birth certificate is a FAKE!
Actually, not.
But it will be fun to see how birthers twist and shuffle to counter it.
Report Post »1chancey1
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:46amBehold the power of Trump! I guess the libs just lost their secret weapon. Ha-Ha!
Report Post »justme72
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:54amDont need to twist and shuffle anything……he has lied so much I no longer believe a word Obama says. If the Birth Certificate were real we would have seen it long before now…no other pres has tried to hide his childhood and birth.
If a person acts as though they have something to hide, you can be garuanteed that they do
Report Post »democratgirl
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:17pmOnly native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States, though from time to time that requirement is called into question, most recently after Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, was elected governor of California, in 2003. The Constitution originally provided a small loophole to this provision: One needn’t have been born in the United States but had to be a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted. But, since that occurred in 1789, that ship has sailed.
* ne must also be at least 35 years of age to be president. John F. Kennedy was the youngest person to be elected president; he was 43 years old when he was inaugurated in 1961. There is no maximum age limit set forth in the Constitution. Ronald Reagan was the oldest president; at the end of his term in 1988, he was nearly 77.
* Finally, one must live in the United States for at least 14 years to be president, in addition to being a natural-born citizen. The Constitution is vague on this point. For example, it does not make clear whether those 14 years need to be consecutive or what the precise definition of residency is. So far, however, this requirement has not been challenged.
These are the only explicit criteria in the Constitution.
Report Post »Docroxall
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:11amFresh from photoshop!
Report Post »starman70
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:36amShure doesn’t look like the one a citizen of Hawaii, born in Hawaii the same year as Obama, released to the internet. Of course the name of the person releasing the cirtificate was blacked out but the form was quite different from this one.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:58amIt looks EXACTLY like the brith certificate of those twins born the same time. But don’t let me interupt your paranoia. Some people really are out to get you.
Report Post »loadingmyclips
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:09amOh Nice!
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:41amI am not buying it for one second.
Report Post »highcarry
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:04pmhey barry, you should have used a mexican illegal to forge this. they could have done it a lot faster.
Report Post »Deb C
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:03pmGuess he only responds to people that have lots of $$
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:09amWhy now and not before?
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:14amThe ink wasn’t dry yet… good forgeries take time.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:17amAside from the distraction value while the Fed chairman makes his first newsconference ever, then it also will be used to slam home on Donald Trump and other potential oppostion to the POTUS while rallying his own base.
Remember, look at the matter from the potition of the POTUS, and what he can gain from it during the campaign now beginning.
Report Post »Malcom0983
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:21amI agree with chickenlittle.
Report Post »etecs
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:30amStrange……….. Usually they dump news like this late Friday afternoon…… Hmm??
Report Post »bccrane
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:32amThey didn’t want to release this now, it was to be released next year, but Trump putting it out there forced them to bring it out now because the question of why doesn’t he just show it was drowning out everything even the polls were showing he was losing it, next year it would have been an Albatross around his neck instead of a in your face event prior to election.
Report Post »He has other ways of manipulating the election anyways. How much do you want to bet that energy prices will dramatically drop next year in time for the elections and Obama will claim credit and the media will give him credit.
RightUnite
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:34amAgree…. This stinks to high heaven….. I think Trump and Soros are in this together. Just sayin.
Report Post »Boss J
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:34amRight on chicken little. I think they had to make sure they didn’t make all the same mistakes as they did with his certificate of live birth and his SS#. They had to make sure they could put it in the right # range and what ever else the experts would use to shed it to pieces.
Report Post »WSGAC
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:38amI find it interesting that Beck, who has made it his mission to get America back to its basics…to be a people of truth, faith, hope, charity…people of integrity, and yet when the same be applied to this fraud in the white house, who has spent a whole lot of money keeping not just his birth certificate, but everything else about his past hidden, Beck gets all hot and bothered about questions of integrity with the commander in chief.
Remember when Beck scoffed when Trump brushed off that woman who asked about “Soros”? Remember when Trump treated the question of Soros as a none issue, how Beck scoffed? Why did he scoff at Trump’s answer? Because Beck knew the truth about Soros’s shady past. Yet when people genuinely want to know about Obama, he scoffs and says it’s a non issue.
Yeah Beck, sure, truth and integrity are sooooo important….as long as they suit your purposes!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:39am@Etecs:
This friday most news sets will be dealing with the Royal Wedding in England. THAT is when the next major nation shaker and messer upper policy of the administration will get dumped upon all of us and the world.
Report Post »glarryb
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:35amThis is not a certified copy of the certificate. It has to have the Seal of the State of Hawaii or it cannot even be used to get a passport
Report Post »weeblewacker1
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:09amyou people just don’t give up. what do you want the man to do? crap American flags?pee red-white-and blue? i think you people are just jealous of him! complete and total envy.care- full now,thats one of the 7 deadly sins!! it just makes you so mad that a poor black man can do so well,(his education,U.S.Senator, Lawyer,Professor, U.S.President),that you just loose your minds! now,if you all worked as hard as he did in school,you too might have been somebody great and not a jealous,bitter, uninformed, hourly wage earning loser, posting your little fox-news T.P’s in your parents cellars on there computers.
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:24pm@WSGAC
If you’re going to talk about Beck, at least quote him properly. He wanted people to drop the birth certificate issue because: 1) it was going to go nowhere and 2) there were much MUCH more important issues to be dealt with.
And guess what…. the birth certificate issue is going to go nowhere (by definition now that he’s released it) and we have much MUCH bigger issues to deal with. Beck isn’t always right… but I agreed with him on this issue and I think time has proven us both right.
Report Post »mtncougar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:27pmGood point! Below from an article in American Thinker written on April 27th:
Character is central to leadership, trust is the highest part of leadership. When the American people vote for their President, they are trusting that his leadership will serve the nation’s best interest. But as Zig Ziglar wrote, “…only men of character are trusted.”
So far, Obama wants us to trust his own version of his life stories, with no regard to inconvenient facts or common sense. To pick one example: when he said that he never heard his pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, spew anti-American sermons from the pulpit, despite his sitting in the pew almost weekly for more than 15 years, it was an indication that Obama has a dubious character and cannot be trusted.
Viewed this way, Obama’s lack of forthrightness is not limited to the question of his birthplace, but extends to various small and large matters that he is zealously trying to hide and obfuscate.
IN FACT, THE REAL QUESTION SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT HIS BIRTHPLACE, BUT WHY IS HE PROTECTING THE RLEASE OF HIS LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE. [emphsis added]
Why is Obama not requesting the release of its copy and put the issue to rest? Thanks to Donald Trump who has shown the way to do it, the release of the information can be done in a matter of hours. What is needed is a genuine effort to do so.
Put aside Obama’s stubborn refusal to also release his academic records and information on how he financed his education at Columbia and Harvard. The liberals and conservatives who ridicule the birthers may take advice from a man most of them admire, Theodore Roosevelt, who said, “Americanism is a question of principle, of purpose, of idealism, of character…”
But, how do you tell a man’s character when he is not even willing to reveal his birthplace and academic records?
Source:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/obamas_birthplace_mystery_the.html
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:26pm@Drfrost
It may be true that this is an issue that will go nowhere but for those of us that believe that no one is above the law it is gratifying to see someone make the “king” bow to the same law that we are bound by (even if the certificate is fresh printed). GB went out of his way to far to poo poo the birth certificate thing.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:08amThe Fed’s chairman is about to speak today; the smokescreen is released and the POTUS will also speak at the same time. So…smoke and mirrors again.
Report Post »Cptnjarhead
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:15amAbout damn time, now can we please concentrate on the real issues?
Report Post »1. Economy
2. Border
3. Bring our troops home
4. Start using our resources and stop foreign depencdancy
Basically:
Start the breathing
Stop the bleeding
Protect the wound
Treat for shock
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:15amWith the chairman of the Federal Reserve now speaking today, this being released is a foil to get us off whatever subject Bernekie is going to unload upon the people of America; we are facing a total nightmare of epic proportions, and being sold down the river by the administration and the POTUS, along with the czars and his allies, most attention will fall upon the birth certificate.
Watch in the woods, and watch the other hand. There is more awaiting us all at once.
And, pray, please pray for God to deliver our nation back into the hands of the people.
Report Post »travlman77
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:16amI agree 100%
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:16amWhat, you don’t have a DVR?
Report Post »Mannax
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:17amI couldn’t agree more.
Report Post »MEESHEL
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:18amI think you’re right, Snow… smoke and mirrors
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:20amHis Mother, father and grandmother are all racist Marxists… the birth does not “matter”, he has [still] been indoctrinated and is committing treason without ramifications!
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:25amAgree with all of you. My DVR works overtime.
Report Post »hud
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:25amGood fake, at least they used an old manual Underwood typewriter like the government had in every office
Report Post »IowaWoman
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:26amUmmm I thought even the President could NOT get a copy. What happened???
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:32amIs Obama trying to distract us from his Black Liberation Easter Sunday?
For a ‘black Liberator” I hear nothing about the Ivory Coast Massacres.
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:33amI haven‘t laughed as hard as I have this morning with Glenn’s comedy since before 9-11-01. Finally, we can move on to what really matters… or can we? Muwahaha
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:33amAccording to the copy posted above, this is still just a Certificate of Live Birth; NOT a long-form birth certificate…
Report Post »s-n-t
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:34amC’mon, People. You’re making forgery jokes, and no one is mentioning Dan Rather??
Report Post »TermLimits4All
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:35amIn 1961 black men were called “black” as their race, and not “African” as is listed on this form. This is not the issue we should be focused on to defeat the BHO in 2012, but this issue has not been put to rest.
Report Post »Nervous Investor
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:35amDivide (attention) and Conquer (the Nation).
Wonder whether the typeface is consistent with 1961 IBM typewriter technology of the day? Just Kidding !!!!!!!!!
Bernanke should be worth hearing if only to see whether he continues to blow smoke.
Report Post »Professional Infidel
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:35amIt’s a fake, you don’t get one when your hatched!!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:35am@Lloyd Draco:
Nope, do not even have TV, I have better usage for my funds than cable and am waiting to have a sale on the TVs soon, if I get one, it will be when I wish to and will be of a quality and price I both am able to pay for, and willing to pay for.
Report Post »Keveeee
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:36amI just have one big question about this. Was his birth name actually Barack Husein Obama? I thought he changed his name from Barry Sattoro? So where did that rumor come from?
Report Post »I’m more confused now.
Citizen
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:36amI bet barracks mom listened to “a boy named sue” .
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:37am@Cessna:
Right on.
@Lloyd Draco:
Any chance the last part of your screen name in reference to the ‘Order of the dragon’ (i.e. Knight of the order of the dragon) from the Romanian history of late 1500s to 1600s.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:38amNow the reasonable question is: Why did it take 2-3 years?
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:42am@ETECS
Report Post »That is a very good observation, I wonder if any of us have relatives who were born or gave birth in Hawaii during the 1960′s who are black, or have a black parent? We could then cross verify the terminology. My money is on it being a forgery, but I’d sure like to have a side by side comparison of his long form and another from that era.
Dahart
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:43amNever confuse motion with action……..
Report Post »Ben Franklin
Cerealface
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:44amThe smoke screen was the media controversy around not showing the birth certificate and no news about the fed, until now when the fed decide to make an announcement. CONSPIRACY BUSTED. Also, people can multi-task. They can read more than one news story. Just like you.
Report Post »ronaldreaganthegreat
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:46amHmm, interesting take…
Report Post »awiderview
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:48am@snow
Report Post »You write so well, but yet you have such a narrow mind. Is it not possible that the White House does indeed want to get the birth certificate issue off the front page so that real, important issues can take the stage?
I would love to see your writing skills used to present logical arguements rather than conspiracy theories…but I guess that isn’t your M.O. But I can always hope.
jzs
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:52amReminder of my prediction of a year ago: nobody’s mind will change. All you have to say is “it’s fake”. Because we all know, this has never been about the birth certificate.
As you were.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:52amThis is not the original birth certificate. His birth name was Barry not Barack, so once again this still leaves the same questions, where is his ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE WITH HIS ORIGINAL BIRTH NAME?
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:54amLet’s see here, this copy of a Birth Certificate was issued on 25 April 2011 with no raised seal or even a faded image of one when copied. If this is indeed a photocopy of the original you would be able to see the raised seal image on it. The one I have has it. Guess they forgot that little detail.
Report Post »JCoolman
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:56amWhat is this “birther” thing everyone is talking about? Hey, did you hear that the FED is destroying the country? Maybe everyone should have been watching for that one and not the damn “birth certificate.”
READY TO START PAYING ATTENTION TO THE REAL PROBLEMS IN OUR COUNTRY? OUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU!!!!
Report Post »trekcyclist22
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:00amOk…Next those that won’t, don‘t or can’t believe or get over this since it’s been 2+ years the next will be that the micro-filmed version should be presented since that would probably the original since the one presented isn’t. I was born in 1962 and my certified copy with “seal” was the micro-film version. So it‘s safe to say this story really won’t go away; especially with the media…
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:03amI can’t believe that comments, there are still birthers on this board. Obama should not have released it and the the crazies run the GOP asylum a little longer.
Report Post »timeout
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:03amwhat an a hole for not doing this 3 yrs ago!
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:03amHere is what a REAL Hawaii Birth Certificate looks like. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:05amthats fresh ink :)
Report Post »bigmike63
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:06amWhat I would like to know is why are the file numbers are different.On the COLB that we all have seen the number was 151-1961-010641, so why is the numbers changed?
Report Post »Grumpy old Flight Nurse
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:07amHey Cptnjarhead, you hit the nale on the head. Well Said!. Great analogy.
Report Post »imreddog
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:08amFor those of you who are saying that we shouldn’t worry about whether or not Obama is CONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA I say this.
Report Post »1) It is important because we should uphold the Constitution.
2) I am capable of being aware of more than one thing at a time. The birth certificate issue does not distract me from other issues…. it is just one of many of the issues that the COMMIECRATS have presented to us in their illegal doings.
3) Obama is a mouth piece for those who want to destroy this country.
4) Obama is dumb as a rock… an idiot!…. but very dangerous.
sWampy
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:09am1. Strange thing, I’ve seen dozens of birth certificates from Hawaii from around this time period and none of them looked anything at all like this.
2. Even if they looked like this, it would have had to have been hermetically sealed to have looked this good after 50 years.
3. Why redact the certificate number, scared someone with the real certificate with that number would show up?
Report Post »EP46
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:09amObama’s request in the letter if for his Certificate of Live Birth, the response if for ‘his Certificate of Live Birth’. A Certificate of Live Birth IS NOT a Birth Certificate. If you have BOTH, as many people do, look at them, they are not the same. He has NOT presented a Birth Certificate.
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:12amWhen someone breaks into your house, you don’t care where they were born, what race they are, what their favorite color is……Obama and his partners ARE RANSACKING OUR HOUSE!!!
Report Post »hechafteth
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:12amHis father wasn’t a citizen of the United States. Take up the legal challenge from there. It’s always been that simple…
Report Post »darkknight91
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:14amHas anyone looked at the info on that thing? Besides the green pattern it’s printed on looking very strange, the serial number is later than the example shown on WND, yet his birth date is the day before said example. This is going to be fun…
Report Post »oceandove
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:17amNotice that Obama requested two certified copies of his original CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. Why didn’t he request a copy of his BIRTH CERTIFICATE?
Report Post »mill
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:17amI believE DONAL TRUMP IS A DEMOCRAT PLANT
He is out to make Republicans look like crazies….and he’s doing a good job.
ANYTHING, ANYTHING CAN BE FAKED….Time to talk to Grannie in Kenya…kick back, have a couple of drinks , talk about Barry Sorotos.
Report Post »buckj1013
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:18amThis is NOT he Birth Certificate guys. Where is it?
Report Post »LOOKING_BOTH_WAYS
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:20amSnow …. so you think this Birth Certificate is going to take the attention off what the Fed’s are doing, and that’s why they released it …. well maybe for the dumb ones lol
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:21amGood for you Obama, we appreciate you showing your birth certificate, at least we now have the facts in the open on your BIRTHPLACE. Now, we must address the Constitution, where does it allow for a person born of a foreign parent to be President of the USA? Now we have proof of your foreign born and British Citizen father and we can now proceed with the impeachment process, again thank you for the rope we needed to try you in court under the LAWS OF THE LAND. You’re a gem Obama.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:25am@IMPEACHBHO
“When someone breaks into your house, you don’t care where they were born, what race they are, what their favorite color is……Obama and his partners ARE RANSACKING OUR HOUSE!!!”
Exactly. The entire “birther” thing has been a giant waste of time and resources that has kept much more productive action from occurring in its stead.
Focus folks, this man needs to be out of the white house. Even if you could bring a “birther” case against him, he can stall from now until the end of his *2nd* term if he wanted to, he practically owns the trial lawyers and judges. Get a grip, focus, get him out of office.
That is all.
Report Post »ReddenBlack
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:25amI don’t understand why Donald Trump of all people was making a big fuss over this. He MURDERED someone a man in 1982, and yet HE’S the one worried about someone following the laws? Doesn’t make any sense.
“Hey Donald, where’s your apology to the family of Martin Schuler?”
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:25amOh gee, I can’t wait to hear from the Fed chairman! All of that information he’s about to disclose! And to think I could have missed it!
Report Post »BubbaJax
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:28amWhat is the white block around all the letters and writing on this birth certificate? Might be a scanning thing but it is around everything. Just interested….I‘m sure this is the real thing but I just don’t understand this particular thing. The white block is uniform. Shame it took so long to do this and obviously it was calculated. Almost had to do something. Time to move onto the real substance of this presidents failures which are much more important. This country has never been in such a problem ever! We are in just as much trouble now as during the most difficult times of the cold war. Look at what has become of our country, how do you even get in so much debt? Why didn’t people question this path sooner? Our government is nearly completely corrupt and I truly do not know if anything can fix our situation now. We went off into the wrong direction many years ago and any president that tried to fix our situation seemed to be assassinated or it was attempted. I truly do not trust any of them anymore.
Report Post »Archangel12580
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:28amTrump missed a golden opportunity. He should have said the following:
“This is all it takes? I tell Obama to jump, and he jumps. Who am I? Im just a simple American business man. And this is who we have going to countries like China and India, negotiating with some of the best business minds and negotiators in the world? This president is weak and its time we put a leader who wont be pushed around in the Oval Office.”
Perfect opportunity for Trump to smack Obama down and make him look like the weak, empty suit he is. Hopefully the rest of the media will pick up on the missed opportunity and run with it.
Report Post »bread and circuses
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:31amInteresting !!!!
#10641 — Aug 4, 61
#10637 — Aug 5, 61
What is wrong with this picture ???
Report Post »Bobert
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:31amOkay . . . Let’s run through the check-list before this release today:
At least 35 years of age [CHECK]
A resident of the USA for at least the past 14 years [CHECK]
A “natural born Citizen” which means: a) Born on US Soil [?], b) to a US Citizen mother [Check], and c) a US Citizen father [?]
NOW, after this release of the long form birth certificate:
At least 35 years of age [CHECK]
A resident of the USA for at least the past 14 years [CHECK]
A “natural born Citizen” which means: a) Born on US Soil [CHECK], b) to a US Citizen mother [Check], and c) a US Citizen father [NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO]
Now, it is clear, based on this release that our President is not a natural born Citizen. Bye-bye Berry.
Report Post »glarryb
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:34amThis is not a certified copy of the certificate. It has to have the Seal of the State of Hawaii or it cannot even be used to get a passport.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:36amNice, he was born in the USA. BFD, he’s still trying to destroy it!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:36amAre you beckerneads ready to admit that Fox “News” is not a news channel but a bad comedy. It was this network, from Fox and Friends through Hannity that kept this non-story alive. Fox lied to you people and you sat there with blank stares on your faces and believed the lie. Reading the posts here some are still not willing to give up on the racist lie. You are all fools if you still watch fox.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:41amSo now he has a CertificaTION of Live Birth AND a CertificATE of Live Birth? Why would he have both?
And if the “original” had his mother’s signature on it, why would it NOT have the State Seal, as other birth certificates show of people born in Hawaii on the same day and in the same hospital as Obama alleges he was born?
This still does not make him a natural-born citizen, only NATIVE born. He does not have two U.S. citizens for parents.
I ain’t buying it. If the State of Hawaii HAS the original long form, why can’t they produce a copy of it, with the State Seal, as they have for everyone else? If they can computer generate the form, they can also computer generate a lie.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:42amHonestly, I don’t believe one should be allowed to be President unless both parents are American citizens and hold permanent residence in America. So with the logic going around, an anchor baby is qualified to be president, with both parents under the jurisdiction and nationalism of Mexico. Where would the anchor baby’s loyalty lie?
Report Post »JesusFreak95
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:45amAll I can say is “Thank goodness”. Now can we all just move along and get on to more important things, like how to win the next election.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:50am@encinom
Report Post »Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:36am
Are you beckerneads ready to admit that Fox “News” is not a news channel but a bad comedy. It was this network, from Fox and Friends through Hannity that kept this non-story alive. Fox lied to you people and you sat there with blank stares on your faces and believed the lie. Reading the posts here some are still not willing to give up on the racist lie. You are all fools if you still watch fox
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Nope, but your comedy is amazing stuff, you couldn’t see past the wart on your nose! BTW – this is a certificate of live birth long form, not a Long Form Birth Certificate, and there is NO SEAL on it either. And since when is African a race of people? There happens to be white Africans too, S. Africa, all over the damn continent. The more I look at this, the more I see fraud too. why no address for mother Dunham? why is her signature different from her typed name? No official seal? Race = African?????? Give us all a break and get some reading glasses, because you are obviously blind, if not, then you are indoctrinated.
justme72
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:50am@ KEVEEEE
When I got adopted my name changed on my Birth Certificate. I imagine it does the same with a legal name change.
That said…Obama waited too long…..I still think something is fishy
Report Post »weeblewacker1
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:50amwell,you all wanted to see it,there ya go!! so now you are screaming about the “timing” grow-up.
Report Post »Coffeehead
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:51amDon’t just BRING THE TROOPS HOME. When did this poison infect our military. We WIN the war and then return in victory.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:53amFATHER’s race= African, LOL. Father US citizen = No [here on a student visa], Obama eligible to be POTUS = No.
Simple as that! IMPEACH the liar in chief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Void all laws signed by the fraud.
Report Post »Susan
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:55amFirst, where is the official seal? It looks nothing like my original…complete with seal. I was born in 1960 and my footprint is on mine.
Second, IF this is real, its 100% proof that O is not our president as his father is African. Sorry O (not really but it sounds nice) you are ineligible.
Third, I’m sick to death of Glenn Beck thinking he has the power to tell me what to think and say. He said on the radio, Now if birthers will just shut up! Glenn, my mamma taught me it was rude to tell anyone to shut up. My American blood boils when you tell me to!
Yes, we have big problems and I’m not ignoring any of them. HOWEVER, the man sitting in the white house calling himself our president needs to be honest.
Let me end with reminding O and Beck, this is not China, Cuba or Venezuela, its not your way or the highway. Quit acting like the thought police! If I decide you are from Mars, its my God given right to think that. I however do NOT have the right to tell you to shut up, just as you don’t have the right to tell me to shut up!
Americans should never sit down and shut up just because some blow hard tells them to!
Report Post »Sevens
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:56amThis BC is nothing but the same ole same ole.. Where is the reall true LONG FORM.. this doesn’t give the doctors name ect.. Anyone who believes this BC to be true is truely a sheep!
Report Post »bluegoldnationdotcom
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:57amUnstinking believable. The birth certificate has been released. LEAVE IT ALONE! Move on to exposing his stances on oil, trade, spending.
Keep the main thing the main thing!
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:57amHey Glenn, you are making me a bit angry now. READ the CONSTITUTION – to be eligible for the PRESIDENCY you have to be born here – check. You have to have an American mother = check, you also have to have an America father = no check. That right there invalidates his eligibility as PRESIDENT does it not = check. Obama SURE IS an American citizen, but that is NOT the whole criteria. Don’t you see the argument? This would also invalid all laws with his signature…wake up man!!!!! Read the constitution!
Report Post »newrepublic7
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:58amOK, so we FOUND the Birth Cert. ??? I thought the Gov. of Hawaii (Gov. Neil Abercrombie ) had trouble finding the long form? I don’t care either way, I just think it’s strange!
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:59amSo Barry was a birthday present? His mothers birthday is 11/29. Add nine months.
Report Post »Otherwise she was a minor or he was early.
neverfinal
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:59amI agree with the important issues that should be addressed, but I am also not stupid enough to know the difference in Certificates. This one presented today is not a long form birth certificate. This is fraud on the part of many people and a huge cover up by the Media. The white House and Hawaii officials.
This is a Certificate of Live Birth, not a long form Birth Certificate There is a huge difference in these two Certificates..We are supposed to believe anything the media tells us. No way, some of us are smarter than that.
This is a crime and fraud. This also proves that he is not qualified to be the president. His father was not a citizen and therefor he is illegal to be President,
according to the Constitution.
One question to ask yourself, is how did the Live Birth Certificate that was posted on the internet suddenly change in it’s appearance? The one posted here has a lot more information? Would your Certificate suddenly change in it’s content. No, not without fraud…… Every news source is saying this is a long form and it is not. You couldn’t get a passport with this form.
What this tells me is that we are being lied to and this is a cover up. They have gotten to all news sources and we really can’t trust anymore.Only citizen journalist’s are trustful.
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Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:00amI am delighted to see that Barry has had a “change” of heart and released his birth certificate. What took so long Mr Obama??????
I really want to believe and accept it as real, (not that it matters as I dislike him due to being a commie), but my thoughts are; First, he had enough time to have a forgery made. Second, have any of us ever seen a birth certificate from Hawaii before?
If it’s real, thank you Mr Obama. Now please take your pocket copy of the Manifesto with you when your fired in 2012.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:00amhttp://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/05/hawaii-department-of-health-has-conspired-against-the-public-for-5-months/
~ Interesting piece with photocopies of correspondence…
Report Post »Sevens
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:01amBeck your a shill for the Government.. You have abused my trust. Your insanity about the Birth Certificate..is shown.. this is not over. It is a lie this bc is a lie too.. get off your a%@ and really investigate this and you will really know!!!
Report Post »MyFreedomIsn'tForSale
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:03amProof Positive, Obama is not a natural borne citizen, his father is a Kenyan. Back to community organizing
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:05am@awiderview
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@snow
You write so well, but yet you have such a narrow mind. Is it not possible that the White House does indeed want to get the birth certificate issue off the front page so that real, important issues can take the stage?
I would love to see your writing skills used to present logical arguements rather than conspiracy theories…but I guess that isn’t your M.O. But I can always hope.
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Snowleopard does not answer to you. If his mind seems narrow to you, perhaps his mind is focusing on detail. Artists have a mind for detail, particularly for detail relating to someone who has NEVER told the truth, that I can determine, anyway.
its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:10amthere is so many thing wrong with this fake its not funny. first AFRICAN is not a race its a continate the term used in 1961 was ***** NOT african second if this is his b/c hes not a natural buorn citizen by this record. third this thatch weave pattern didnt exist until the invention of the computer. forth why dosent this match all the other b/c from this same time frame in hawaii. see http://www.birtherreport.com to se what a REAL hawaiian b/c looks like and this is not it. sorry obama this is as phoney as the first one you put out.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:10am@Jackers
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:33am
According to the copy posted above, this is still just a Certificate of Live Birth;
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There is a difference between a CertificaTION of Live Birth and a CertificATE of Live Birth.
The problem lies in that (1) Obama/Soetoro has BOTH, (2) the one he released is a COMPUTER-GENERATED certificate, rather than the copy from microfilm, and (3) the one he released has no State Seal.
Report Post »IamEvilHomer
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:13amI thought his name was Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor, Jr or cashis clay or something
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:17am@Blackhawk1
Report Post »Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:03am
Here is what a REAL Hawaii Birth Certificate looks like. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347
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One twin was issued number 10637, and she was born the day AFTER Obama, but Obama’s number is 10641, a later number of a sequence. Why is this OUT of sequence?
Showtime
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:22am@jzs
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:52am
Reminder of my prediction of a year ago: nobody’s mind will change. All you have to say is “it’s fake”. Because we all know, this has never been about the birth certificate.
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I am not saying that it is fake. I am asking unanswered questions. I still want to know how anyone with both a CertificaTION of Live Birth AND a Certificate of Live Birth, neither of which have an embossed State Seal, and who states himself that his father was a foreign national, can call himself a natural-born citizen when at best, he can be only NATIVE born.
As you were, arrogant one.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:26am“A “natural born Citizen” which means: a) Born on US Soil [?], b) to a US Citizen mother [Check], and c) a US Citizen father [?]”
You don’t need all three to qualify as a natural born citizen. You only need ONE. What do you think anchor babies are?
Oh, why do I even bother? I predicted that you birthers would not be satisfied and the responce proves it.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:32am@newrepublic7
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OK, so we FOUND the Birth Cert. ??? I thought the Gov. of Hawaii (Gov. Neil Abercrombie ) had trouble finding the long form? I don’t care either way, I just think it’s strange!
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Albercrombie did not look in Obama’s computer!
Bobert
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:33amJust for clarification, being born on US soil definitely makes someone like Obama a US citizen (regardless as to whether or not one’s parents are also US citizen or not), but if you are born on US soil and one of your parents is not, at the time of your birth, also a US citizen, you fail to meet the requirement of being a “natural born Citizen” – which means absolutely NOTHING and gives you no less constitutional rights than another other US citizen (natural born, or otherwise) unless you happen to be one of the rare individuals elected President of the United States (which currently only applies to 43 individuals [Grover Cleveland served non-conecutive terms as the 22nd and 24th President] since April 30, 1789) and are trying to meet the eligibility requirements of Art II, Section 1, Clause 5. I don’t blame people for not knowing this rather obscure heighten citizenship requirement and why people are confusing “US Citizen” with the “natural born Citizen” requirement to be President because, until this point in time, no President’s citizenship has been questioned.
It was the fear of foreign influence invading the Office of Commander in Chief of the military that prompted John Jay, our first U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice, to write to George Washington the following letter dated July 25, 1787: “Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide ‘a strong check’ to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen (underlying “born” in the original). Jay’s recommendation did make it into the Constitution. Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution provides in pertinent part: “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President. . .” In this clause and in Articles I, III, and IV, the Founding Fathers distinguished between “Citizen of the United States” and “natural born Citizen.” Per the Founders, while Senators and Representatives can be just “Citizens of the United States,” the President must be a “natural born Citizen.”
Glenn – for your researchers:
The Venus, 12 U.S. (8 Cranch) 253, 289 (1814)
Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. 36, 21 L.Ed. 394, 16 Wall. 36 (1872)
Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167-68 (1875)
Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94 (1884)
U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 708 (1898)
This definition of a “natural born Citizen” was also confirmed by Rep. John Bingham. In the House of Representatives on March 9, 1866.
Duncan v. Louisiana, 391 U.S. 145 (1968)
According to a July 18, 1859 official proclamation by former Attorney General Black, only those who never owed fealty to another nation may be President.
Report Post »Mee the People
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:35amit takes donald trump to get things done
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:37amPutting on my tin foil hat now.
This is not the Birth Certificate! It doesn’t say “Birth Certificate” It says “Certificate of Live Birth”. That is COMPLETEY different because the words are in reverse order and this has the word “Live” in it, and we all know that a “Live Birth” is not the same as a simple “Birth”.
Taking off tin foil hat now.
Woh. that made my brain hurt. You guys are flippin’ nuts!
Report Post »theonefromabove
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:40amGlad to have this out of the way.
http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:41am@Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:26am
“A “natural born Citizen” which means: a) Born on US Soil [?], b) to a US Citizen mother [Check], and c) a US Citizen father [?]”
You don’t need all three to qualify as a natural born citizen. You only need ONE. What do you think anchor babies are?
Oh, why do I even bother? I predicted that you birthers would not be satisfied and the responce proves it.
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What does that make anchor babies?
I will spell slowly. Pay attention, now! It makes them
N – A – T – I – V – E B – O – R – N .
A citizen is either naturalized, native-born, or natural-born. Natural-born REQUIRES TWO U.S. citizen parents AND being born on U.S. soil or facility.
Report Post »Muetter
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:41amLook how pristine that looks? That has never seen the light of day to be almost 50 yrs old with no signs of oxidation whatsoever! It can’t be real! (That will be the next conspiracy) Just sayin!
Report Post »IAMNOTKNOWING
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:42amThe “Honorable” Barrack Obama. That’s rich.
There were no less than 2 Court Orders shortly after the Election of 2008!! that ORDERED him to provide Proof of Citizenship/Birth Certificate.
So..
He waits until he’s darn good and ready to provide a new version of the old attempt, ….. which still isn‘t what he’s been, not asked, …. ORDERED to provide.
Liar!
He’s going to now ACT AS IF this is a dead issue.
Report Post »This is just a really bad epsidoe of “The Twilight Zone,” right? Please tell me it is.
Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:46amI don’t believe them.
I believe Wayne Madsen.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:50am“This still does not make him a natural-born citizen, only NATIVE born. ”
Showtime, you are, well I don’t know WHAT you are, except completely and absolutely 100% WRONG. There is no such distinction between natural and native born anywhere in the law. You have to go into your mother’s basement and open that half-eaten bag of Cheetos to find THAT distinction.
Report Post »altops
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:52amThis matter is no where near over. Even a LFBC doesn’t confer citizenship, especially when the U.S. had no authority [14th Amendment
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."]
over BHO to impart any Nationality status visa vie,14th Amendment: because BHO was under authority and rule of the U.K. as a matter of Law and Treaty and International Law. When Barack Obama Jr. was allegedly born on Aug. 4, 1961, “in Honolulu”, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms Empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sir’s children.”
British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent. His father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth. A huge disqualification! Sorry the LFBC is not proof of Citizenship under the Laws’ addressing this matter.
The laws governing the matter I referenced negate any relevance of any birth certificate they can produce. He is not a citizen and can never become one under any venue or pretense.
And then theres.. In a legal affidavit, private investigator John
N. Sampson stated that as a result of his formal
training as an immigration officer and
his twenty-seven-year career in professional
law enforcement, “It is my knowledge and
belief that Social Security Numbers can only
be applied for in the state in which the applicant
habitually resides and has their official
residence.”
Private investigations have also revealed
that Obama’s SSN should
have been issued sometime between
1977 and 1979, when the numbers
immediately preceding and following
his were issued in Connecticut.
Obama’s first recorded use of the
Connecticut SSN was in Chicago in
1986.
It’s illegal for the Social Security Administration
to issue a second Social Security number
to any person, but Obama’s Connecticutbased
SSN may not have been the original
number issued to him. Obama’s work history
purportedly began at a Baskin-Robbins icecream
shop in 1975 or 1976, so unless he was
working under the table, he must have had a
number by 1976.
The investigators believe Obama needs to explain
why he is using a Social Security Number
reserved for Connecticut applicants that
was issued at a date later than he is known to
have held employment. Investigator Susan
Daniels asserted, “There is obviously a case
of fraud going on here.”
Im sick and disgusted that GB and his lackey crew are carrying the water for Obama. An atrocity to the Media consuming American.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:55am“A citizen is either naturalized, native-born, or natural-born. Natural-born REQUIRES TWO U.S. citizen parents AND being born on U.S. soil or facility.”
Again, this is a fact* found only in ******* Jack boxes but nowhere in the law. The law only recognizes natural born citizens and naturalized citizens.
But you guys keep adding new definitions if it makes you feel better. Are any of you wearing pants?
Report Post »Cptnjarhead
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:56am@coffeehead
“When did this poison infect our military”
Let me get you up to speed.
Our military is not “poisoned”, in fact we are better than ever, adapting and changing to whatever obstacle that are in our way.
“we WIN the war” – which “war” are you referring to? Our current administration call this an “overseas contingency operation”
Maybe if the past and current administration would take the chains off, these dogs could do what they were trained for and that training NEVER included wining the hearts and minds of people, or trying to bring democracy to a culture that has not changed since the 7th century.
“return in victory”
Just making it home alive is a victory.
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
When you speak these words and sign on the line. You can tell me about “poison” and “victory”.
Report Post »innyoo
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:00pmSo does this make him a dual citizen?
Report Post »militiaman
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:01pmYes, this could well be a smokescreen. Also, why did the president spend millions of dollars fighting court cases to have this information released? It still sounds suspicious.
Now that he has released this info will he also release his school recoprds, showing him to be a sub-standard student? Also, he was appointed head of the Harvard Law Review on the basis of zero literary contributions, after Saudi Arabia donated several million dollars to Harvard to accept him as a student.
Obama also needs to come clean and admit that Bill Ayers wrote his Dreams of My Father book, because it has been proven unequivocally that he did not write it.
We have a president, I’m afraid that is no brighter than the average American, and has been blown all out of proportion by the radical leftist media. How disgusting.
Was his legal fees paid with tax payer money?
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:13pmThat’s EXACTLY what the neocons are doing.
Carrying the water for Obama.
Continuity of Agenda of the Bush Admin.
War war war.
Bring our damn troops home.
Neocons.
Report Post »roachesneverdie
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:25pmI’ll your use of the term “African” and raise you with this:
Report Post »How many different Local Registrars does the state employ? Looking at the signature of the LR on the COLB for the twins with Certificate numbers only 3-4 removed from O’s is completely different. I smell a rat and I do mean DemocRAT!
banjarmon
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:27pmShow us all records “mr o” ALL school records, Pass Ports used to travel, and WHY your SS# is not from Hawaii.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:29pmThere’s a reason the Constitution requires the office of President to be filled by a natural born citizen of the United States, so this issue was always relevant – don‘t let the Left treat it like it wasn’t.
And while nobody took this Constitutional requirement seriously enough to press Obama on the issue from the beginning, I had no other choice but to concentrate on helping to expose Obama’s Marxist ideology – he is clearly an enemy of the United States, having taken the oath of office under duress.
I’m glad that Obama is no longer able to directly play political games with the supposed absense of his birth certificate.
A little more perspective here: The birther issue would have been the FASTEST way to ensure that Obama, Marxist-in-Chief, would be removed from office, which is why it was so relevant an issue.
There never was anything wrong or abnormal about requiring that would-be Presidents prove their citizenship – and claiming that the legal requirement of proof of natural-born citizenship happened to be less stringent than requiring the actual long form, simply ignores the gravity of the issue; The definition of “proof” does not come from legalese, and so any view of the law which ignores the context and intent of the writers is eisegetical and therefore wrong. Again, you cannot “re-interpret” the Constitution.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:41pmWhere is the seal? I just got a passport and my birth certificate HAD to have the seal …..Why would they issue a BC without the seal?
Hope The Donald has it authenticated!
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:48pmIssachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:14pm
@Islesfordian – are you THAT ignorant of our laws? crackerjack boxes, is that what you feel about our Consitution?
Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution provides in pertinent part: “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President. . .” In this clause and in Articles I, III, and IV, the Founding Fathers distinguished between “Citizen of the United States” and “natural born Citizen.” Per the Founders, while Senators and Representatives can be just “Citizens of the United States,” the President must be a “natural born Citizen.”
Also, pray tell what race is African? Where is the state seal on this cert? Why is this cert dated after other certs, whose dates are before his? What is BO‘s father’s nationality = British. Look at a real HI BC below:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347
The fraud-in-chief has GOT TO GO!!!!! IMPEACH this imposter to the presidency NOW Congress, I demand it?
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:57pmStill, he requested a Live Certificate of Birth and got one, not the long form, no father’s signature, still begs question of both parents being of “natural born citizens.” This doesn’t answer anything except to show that he is ineligible, because of that.
Report Post »Is it like, cut out of the paper? What is beyond where is bends down under the left side and what is with all the writing on the certificate, like the x’s in “this birth”, and 2′s, 9′s in “lines 7, 9, 12“ and ”MD” looks like it was scratched out once, then checked?
I also agree, smoke and mirrors.
Showtime
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:58pm@Bobert
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:33am
Thank you for that post. I copied it and pasted it to an email that I sent to a congressional office doing an investigation. (When I spell-checked it, I fixed the spelling for “non-consecutive” terms, too.)
XXX OOO
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:59pmNow that that is settled we can now get on to the real issues like how Obama is ruining the country. We certainly can’t afford another 4 years of this. I really hope there is a good challenger in 2012, and not another McCain.
Report Post »Tea Party Conservatism
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:59pm.
In 1866 John Bingham, the author of the 14th Amendment, stated on the House floor:
“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.”[1]
This definition was unchallenged during the heated debates ongoing at the time. The House floor is certainly the proper place for such debates but no objection was raised among the members, the consensus being that each agreed with the definition. In fact, the House of Representatives definition of a natural born citizen as one “born on U.S. soil of parents who are U.S citizens” still stands today, 145 years later.
The House of Representatives definition of a natural born citizen was affirmed in 2008 by Senate Resolution 511:
“Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.”[2]
It’s interesting to note that former Senator Obama was a Cosigner of SR-511. Even assuming he was born in Hawaii, Obama’s Kenyan father precluded his being a “natural born citizen” as required for eligibility to serve as President by the Constitution.
1. Library of Congress, Congressional Globe, House of Representatives, 39th Congress, 1st Session, Page 1291, 1866.
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=071/llcg071.db&recNum=332
2. SR-511, Opencongress, 5/10/08
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democratgirl
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:59pmA nation in despair: Who is to blame?
When the presidential candidate from Illinois said he wanted to remake America, a slight majority of Americans thought it was a good idea. And they voted him into office. Since then, gasoline prices have doubled; the housing market has crashed; the automobile industry has sucked billions out of the taxpayer’s treasury; the Middle East has been destabilized in favor of terrorism; our boys are being killed at record numbers in Afghanistan; we have entered a war in Libya in league with the very terrorists we are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan; the national debt and deficit have soared to record levels; the US Dollar is being replaced as the world’s reserve currency; food prices have risen over 35%; and much more.
This government is spending our money, our children‘s money and their children’s money into oblivion. This government is drunk on social programs to the point that most are either employed by it or are receiving from it. This government is promoting abortion at the expense of life; homosexuality at the expense of marriage; fiscal disaster at the expense of fiscal responsibility. Some are angry at Congress; others at the White House. Some just throw up their hands and say they can do nothing about it. Some say its God’s judgment. Some want revolution. Some say the Church should not participate in government. Some say Christians should not be involved in government. Some are just so frustrated, they don’t know what to do.
So who is to blame? If Thomas Jefferson was right that the tree of Liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots, whereto do you aim the instrument of revolution? Jesus said in Matthew 7:4, 5, “Or how will you say to your brother, Let me pull out the log out of your eye; and, behold, a beam is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first cast out the beam from thine own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the log out of your brother’s eye.” Want someone to blame for the problems of this nation? We all have responsibility in this. In place of our own personal civic duty we put hirelings who seduced us with vain words and destroyed us with evil actions.
You might say: I write my congressman; I sign petitions; I make phone calls. You do well. But this is not about politics. This is about the spiritual condition of the hearts of our countrymen. As Christians, we are called to the Great Commission. If we as Christians were doing what we were commanded to do–rather than being inwardly focused on self indulgent doctrines of man–this nation would not have abortion, nor would it exalt homosexuality, nor would it covet our money and property because the majority would know Christ and be disciples in the truest of ways. Just as the Liberty of Christ requires personal responsibility, civic responsibility is required in a representative government. Our passion for Christ is a reflection of this nation.
Have a Blessed and P
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:03pm@Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:50am
“This still does not make him a natural-born citizen, only NATIVE born. ”
Showtime, you are, well I don’t know WHAT you are, except completely and absolutely 100% WRONG. There is no such distinction between natural and native born anywhere in the law. You have to go into your mother’s basement and open that half-eaten bag of Cheetos to find THAT distinction.
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Well, since you are so smart, DEFINE DUAL CITIZENSHIP!
No, wait for it — You can’t do it without ADMITTING that Obama/Soetoro is NOT a natural-born citizen!
Report Post »clinging2religion
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:16pmObama admits his father is a foreigner from Africa. His father age 25 committed statuatory rape of his mother, a minor at age 17. His stepfather is a foreigner from Indonesia. All this means is that Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen. This is more important than a piece of paper. It questions his allegiance which is why our Founding Fathers made it clear that the president, unlike any other political office in the land, must meet the additional scrutiny of “Natural Born”…not just citizen.
Report Post »What Would Jesus Vote
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:17pmAHAHAHAHA HILARIOUS
by the way, they call his dad african on here because he was from africa. if he was an american, they would call him black maybe. doesn’t take einstein to figure that out.
Report Post »Multiple Arms
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:20pmFeces is feces, whether expelled in Hawai’i or in Kenya. We still have the same piece of crap for president.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:27pm“Well, since you are so smart, DEFINE DUAL CITIZENSHIP!”
“The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy.Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth.
U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.”
How’s that? Take not that the concept of dual citizenship is never addressed by U.S. law as disqualifying one from being a natural born citizen.
But you and Issachar can keep searching in ******* Jack boxes for definitions to suit your fancies.
I’ll stick with the Constitution and the U.S. Law that defines its terms.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:31pmOops. I forgot to add that I found my definition of dual citizenship on a U.S. state Department site.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
But obviously they are biased and can’t be trusted. Much better to refer to unofficial blog commentators for the truth.
Report Post »jds7171
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:31pmWasn‘t Barrack’s given name Barry?
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:35pmThe comments here prove the Trig will be a member of Mensa before any birther. You know you are nuts when cashew brained Glenn Beck is calling you a nut. While I disagree with tests and polls, birthers have proven that they are insane and should be prevented from voting.
Report Post »ltb
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:43pmjzs
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:52am
Reminder of my prediction of a year ago: nobody’s mind will change. All you have to say is “it’s fake”. Because we all know, this has never been about the birth certificate.
As you were.
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You are absolutely correct. The fact that Obama is a liar, the fact that he supports murdering aborted babies who are born alive, the fact that he’s a coward, the fact that he is spending America into oblivion, the fact that he is forcing our troops to back Al Qaeda in Libya, the fact that he rams bills through his lapdog Congress against the will of the American People and the fact that he is destroying America’s economy have absolutely nothing to do with why I can’t stand the sight of him. He’s black and that is why he makes my skin crawl.
Why don’t you people try a different tune?
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:48pmEncinom, if we disqualify Birthers from voting we have to disqualify Truthers too, and people who think Tittanic is a good film, as well as anyone who dresses animals in clothes.
Report Post »Long Form in Ya FACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:55pmBah Dap Bah Bah Baaaaahhh
I‘M LOVIN’ IT!
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:07pmThis has been expected. The surpising thing is that it took obama as president 2 years to be able to fabricate a birth certificate. I figure that this is why Glenn said not to focus on his birth certificate, he knew that at some point obama would come up with a phony one. It is easy enough to do for someone at obama’s position. They show their colors still though with their repeated insistence that they cannot give out certified copies of the original birth certificate, it plain to see that they are still playing their charade. It is standard and common policy that whenever anyone requests a certified copy of their birth certificate, it is issued and does not need any special approval. If obama had requested a copy at any time he would have received it within a week or two. However, with obama’s power there is no way right now to prove all this. All it does is show how obama is about as evil as anyone ever and also how crooked the government of Hawaii is. Nothing may be able to be proved against them but people will know and see them for who they are.
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:14pmPhotoshop job. Semi-transparent letters put on top of green background.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:15pmThink back people,,,,,remember the typewriters 45 years ago???? The typeset of the letters were NEVER in line,,,always off alignment somewhat. No matter how good or expensive the typewriter was back then, the letters were always NOT IN A PERFECT SET. It was impossible back then.
Take a close look at the ‘perfect’ lettering and alignment. 45 years ago? NO WAY. And the lettering was also different then……..
Report Post »This is a forgery,,,,,,,and don’t fall for it America….I still don’t believe it.
ltb
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:18pmI thought people were kidding about this birth certificate being fake, but evidently some of you aren’t. It’s real, let’s move on.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:18pmIslesfordian
Report Post »Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:48pm
Encinom, if we disqualify Birthers from voting we have to disqualify Truthers too, and people who think Tittanic is a good film, as well as anyone who dresses animals in clothes.
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I am fine with disqualifing truthers and everyone that believes Alex Jones, David Ickes and the rest that appea ron disinfowars. These people need to be locked up for their own protection, clearly they are insane.
marybethelizabeth
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 2:42pmCan I tell you something? Mr. Beck has been spending about 1/3 of his radio broadcast on the birther issue. He will have to find other material to distract his listeners from the real problems this nation faces. My guess is he continues to mention this issue for the rest of the week.
Report Post »Mr. Beck has been using his television show to talk about the mysterious Fed, which is not so mysterious. It’s workings are detailed plainly in laws and regulations that are readily available .
Mr. Beck is new to the anti Fed propaganda using arguments that are over 60 years old.
Remember that Mr. Beck was claiming we were experiencing deflation 2 1/2 years ago, even as the money supply was increasing at an inflationary rate.
Mr. Beck’s goal is to have enough people accept an iron fisted rule to escape the artificial chaos he has invented.
MHP
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:01pm@the Commie encinom
The birth certificate is still fake.
With gas prices now @ $6 gallon as of today, Obama is toast in 2012.
He brought these high gas prices on, now he’ll pay for it by losing re-election
Report Post »MHP
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:05pm@encinom
You are the racist here, you hate white people.
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Long Form in Ya FACE
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:07pmIt never ceases to amaze me how conspiracy theorist, for example, can think the government is so super smart and savvy that they can orchestrate this whole “fake” proof that Obama was born in Hawaii but they they’d be too stupid to think up some detail like the type-face doesn’t look authentic. It’s like the 9-11 Doofers who think the government pulled off the perfect inside job but were too dumb to think to make it look like a normal building collapse. btw it did look like a normal building collapse and you birthers are a pathetic bunch.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:07pmTEA PARTY CONSERVATIVE,
Statements made on the House florr are not offial for anything. To be official it has to be written into the Law. That is what the politicians vote on. They don’t vote on floor speeches. Those speeches don’t have to be challenged because they have no more force than simply to be informative of the argument. They are not definitive.
But even if they were, you are still reading it wrongly, infering an exclusive definition where only a narrow application was intended. To say that Joe is a natural bornm citizen because his two parents were citizens does not mean that all natural born citizens have to be like Joe. There can be multiple qualifications for things.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:39pmWRONG HOSPITAL NAME!!!
http://rense.com/general93/wrong.htm
ROFLMAO!
Obama screwed up!
Report Post »desertspeaks
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:47pmInteresting note, this “certificate of live birth” doesn’t state or remotely indicate the race of the child as ALL birth certificates do,.. Wonder why?? would they state his race as white, *****, african or other??
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Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:48pm“Certificate Of Live Birth” ?
FAIL! (that has ALWAYS been the problem — Hawaii give these things out after the fact like water — we’re looking for his “Birth Certificate”, you know, the kind all the rest of us have)
http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/ap-declares-obama-kenyan-born/
“(Oct. 14, 2009) — What most people know is that the Associated Press (AP) is one of the largest, internationally recognized, syndicated news services. What most people don’t know that is in 2004, the AP was a “birther” news organization.
“How so? Because in a syndicated report, published Sunday, June 27, 2004, by the Kenyan Standard Times, and which was, as of this report, available at
http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm
“The AP reporter stated the following:
“Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
“This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.”
Report Post »Okie from Muskogee
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 3:50pmThis is absolutely amazing….God above please shows these folks how ignorant they look and how this ignorance will be used against them on real important issues….
From the get go the BO birth certificate issue was nothing more then a distraction and now will be used to call anything you say as a conspiracy….Those who pushed and pushed on this issue played right into the distractions hands….You gave BO the ammo he needed to discredit all of you in future cases you bring against BO….Instead of focusing on real issues and in how horrible BO really is you wasted your time discrediting yourself….Truth is truth and you all gave BO what he wanted…..
Please from hence forward find REAL issues to bring BO down…Don’t listen to clowns like Trump or Hillary, whom actually started the birth issue….
I don‘t like BO’s policies like most of you but there are real issues going on in our country besides this crazy talk a lot of you are STILL wrapped up in…Please stop as you make those you stand with look as dumb as the words coming out of your mouth and you will discredit us with your ignorance….Stop….
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:45pmMaybe you should read the United States Constitution, specifically the 14th Amendment (Section 1, Clause 1) which state that, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
Report Post »Tea Party Conservatism
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:49pmBirth certificate speculation, isolated from other known disqualifications, has been a diversion from the fact that Obama’s Kenyan father precluded his being a “natural born citizen” meaning born on U.S. soil of U.S. citizen parents.
In 1866 John Bingham, author of the 14th Amendment, stated on the House floor:
“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.”[1]
This definition was unchallenged during the heated debates ongoing at the time. The House floor is certainly the proper place for such debates but no objection was raised among the members, the consensus being that each agreed with the definition.
The U.S. Supreme Court soon confirmed this definition!
Minor v. Happersett (1874): ‘At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country, of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further, and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction, without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient, for everything we have now to consider, that all children, born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction, are themselves citizens.’
Clearly two distinct components constitute a natural born citizen, “all children born in a country” and “of parents who were its citizens”. Being born a citizen is only one part of being a natural born citizen, they are not equivalent.
The House definition of a natural born citizen, confirmed by Minor v. Happersett, was reaffirmed in 2008 by Senate Resolution 511:
“Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.”[2]
It is clearly stated and well understood that a natural born citizen is one born on U.S. soil of parents who are each a U.S. citizen!
Obama is further ineligible by dual citizenship for being born a British citizen pursuant to the British Nationality Act of 1948, as his father was a British citizen of colonial Kenya.[3]
1. Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639, 1862.
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=071/llcg071.db&recNum=332
2. SR-511, Opencongress, 5/10/08
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/text
3. Leo C. Donofrio, Esq., “Why Obama is ineligible – regardless of his birthplace.” WorldNetDaily, April 01, 2010.
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blue_collar_man
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 4:51pmGeesh, here we go, watch the other hand. C’mon snow the only ones who have trouble with both hands are the sycophant MSM types. You know, the ones who set at the WH press conferences with those stupid love looks on their faces, who marvel at Barack Hussein Obama’s pant leg creases and tingles up their own legs. You seemed to know what the other hand was doing as well as I. They aren’t going to report it anyway.
Report Post »Issachar
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 5:30pmTo all you leftist trolls, your time in power is about to be forfited, and you are coming unglued, you will start to eat each other very soon. If you think your going to take this country down from the inside or outside, you are ALL going to be in for a rude awakening, and then sleepy time!
Report Post »toinfinity
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:06pmDON’T over look the fact that Stanley Ann Dunham was 18 years 8 months old at the time of obama’s “birth”. Obama is an illegal alien because of this fact.
Obama says he was citizen of Kenya and a British subject at birth.
Obama was not an American citizen at birth because his mother did not meet the requirement of the nationality act of 1940 revised Jun 1952.
So what was he and what is he now?
Did his Kenyan citizenship expire at age 21?
The Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya’s Constitution specifies that at age 23, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1984.
The fact is obama was never a US citizen because his mother did not meet the requirement of the nationality act of 1940 revised Jun 1952.
Obama was never a dual citizen.
If obama didn’t swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya he is not a Kenyan citizen either.
So what is the citizenship status of obama?
It would seem from all the evidence obama is just an ILLEGAL alien.
At birth he was just a citizen of Kenya but that expired at age 21.
All this talk about natural born citizenship is for nothing if obama’s mother did not meet the requirement of the nationality act of 1940 revised Jun 1952.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:06pmhttp://www.infowars.com/obama-birth-certificate-raises-as-many-questions-as-it-answers/
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:59pmOh my god. This is just ridiculous. The PDF isn‘t a photo copy it’s the result of someone using Adobe Illustrator or Photoshop to put together an image. This isn’t even a good fake. Just look at the PDF found at
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
you can see a white glow around all the letters. Then if you open it up in Illustrator you’ll find that it has ten layers. It‘s not an image it’s the product of desktop publishing and it’s a bad fake. Maybe that’s how they are stored in Hawaii, but it doesn’t make sense. You’d think they would just store an image and put together Birth Certificates with a piece of software that has only existed for say 10 years. Someone from Hawaii records need to tell us if this is the way they store birth certificates (as layered pdf?). Can anyone produce a similar certificate that has layers? This is just ridiculous.
Here’s a video showing the layers …
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graywhite63
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:54pmIt is my understanding that he was born BARRY OBAMA and he changed it to BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA when he got in college. William E. Gaines
Report Post »Intellectual Honesty
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:56pmI’ll be heartbroken if this issue goes away. I wish the birthers would add a disclaimer to all of their statements that they think the president is a Kenyan…you’d be even easier to sort out and dismiss entirely.
Report Post »rgranger
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:38pmI remember blacks being called Nero or Negroid as a race, pretty sure African has always been a Continent and would think that the folks in Hawaii’s government would trained to know the difference in race and land mass, now a 25 year old forging something like this may not :)
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:08pmWe don’t have time to verify his birth now! By the time anyone contests his eligibility and demands recourse of his executive orders the country will be at the point of no return! Let it rest and move on!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 9:46pm“would think that the folks in Hawaii’s government would trained to know the difference in race and land mass”
Right, because you would never identify a race by a landmass, like calling someone an ASIAN.
Oh, wait.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 10:43pmMr Trump…can we PLEASE have answers to ALL of these questions regarding this NEW bc??
http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/
Report Post »mademps
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:07pmTrue, so true. It has occurred to me that we should think outside the box. Everyone has now looked at the “long form” Certificate of Live Birth, and pondered what’s there, and wondered if it’s real. Why not look around in Kenya and see what’s there? Wouldn’t it be fun to watch him explain two certificates of birth? Personally, I don‘t think he’s qualified to be our president if he was born in the Lincoln bedroom of the White House. He is so phony about all that he does, so obviously arrogant and of a bad spirit that nothing would surprise me about him at this point. My only comfort is knowing that God is in charge, in spite of how crazy the world seems to be right now. Faith, brothers and sisters, faith, in God, not Obama.
Report Post »JEANNIEMAC
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 11:42pmOne little problem. The name of the hospital is wrong:
A comment from the Smoking Gun piece:
“I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978? “
Report Post »Brainnee1
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:22amthank God this is over.now we have a birth certificate.Obama has my vote.He is such a Great President.the best one USA has ever had.The world can trust a black man too do right by humanity.
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:57amAt what point will birthers just admit that they could be wrong? Seriously, he released exactly what was asked of him, but suddenly everyone is a birth certificate expert and can identify this as a fake? It’s so ridiculous… Also, watch the other hand? REALLY?? How about you clearly have the internet, so you can read about/watch videos of both stories within minutes…
Report Post »ephen3
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 3:47amTHIS IS A TOTAL INSULT TO MY INTELLECT!!!!!!!
This ARROGANT, IMPERIAL, INSULTING empty suit THAT IS “POTUS”
expects us to swollow this piece of trash attempt of a long form??!!!!??
You would think with all the TRILLIONS of unspent stimulous money.. Control of the CIA ,FBI , NASA….dude FACEBOOK and half the Tech Nerds of silicone Valley.
HE WOULD GIVE US A BILLION DOLLAR IDIOT PROOF FAKE!!!!
This is just as bad a “six grader made photoshop” job like the first “birth cert” from the Campaign .
ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT THIS SEPERATES THE REAL REPORTERS FROM THE NWO LACKIES. ( YOU ALL OUTED YOUR SELVES)
DO…I….HAVE….TO ….BE …. THE …..ONLY ….AMERICAN….TO …..POINT…OUT …THAT BOTH BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA and STANLEY ANN DUNHAM are not the same font and are in caps….on top of the fact that both names are “copied an pasted” on.
anyone with a photo analyzer can see the inconsistancies.
This is Some ones long form , but not BHO’s
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 5:56amGee I wonder what Popular Mechanics will say about this Fake ?
Report Post »anyone here ever what the Obama deception ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
Choobie
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 2:34pmI never really cared about the Birth Certificate. I do care about him constantly implying that Republicans are racist. I wonder if any African-American Republicans are offended by his “sit in the back of the bus” comment? He is the biggest race baiter I have ever seen as President. Just think, maybe in about 50 years when we are all pretty much gone, the race card will be no good anymore. Kind of like “crying wolf”.
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 3:20pmAnyone running for President should release ALL of their past records…they have NO privacy from the American people…..RIGHT Chuck Shumer????? RELEASE ALL OF YOUR RECORDS BARRY!!
Oh wait…does THAT make Chuck a RACIST?? LOL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2711608/posts
Report Post »neverfinal
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 3:55pmFirst of all, Media Liars, this is not a long form birth certificate, you know that. Who is calling who stupid? This is a Certificate of Live Birth. Not the same at all. You can not get a DL, Passport or S.S. card with the Live Birth type……How hard is it for smart people to understand. Two types of Certificates and very different meanings. You don’t want to understand, because why??? Paid off, cover up????
Report Post »Why such a big deal about making brilliant birther’s seem stupid, to discredit and silence? We know your game and it won’t work. The truth is the truth. It will be revealed in the end. Experts are verifying this as we speak and already found fraud to the greatest extent, it has been proven. The White House is removing things and scrambling like caught rats. Trump is out smarting you and it will be exposed. Remember, God is on the side of truth and against evil. Glenn where are you? With us or crossed over to the other side??
oldoldtimer
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 4:23pmWhere is the required embossed state seal? It is required to prevent fraud. So where is it? You can not get into the military without the embossed seal on your BC. This is still a COLB not a BC.
Report Post »LittleLordFauntleroy
Posted on April 28, 2011 at 7:20pmForgery
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