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Why Did Soccer’s Real Madrid Remove the Cross From Its Logo?

What’s the difference between these two versions of the Real Madrid soccer team’s logo?

Real Madrid removes the cross from its logo why?

The logo on the left is the typical one used by the massively popular Real Madrid soccer team. It is still the logo seen on the club’s web site. The one on the right is the new, edited version that will be used to promote the new, billion dollar Real Madrid resort island being built in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Did you notice that the small cross atop the crown was removed?

If you are not familiar with the soccer world, Real Madrid is on par with other globally-recognized professional sports franchises like the New York Yankees or the Dallas Cowboys. They are a brand with annual revenues over $500,000 million and an estimated net worth of almost $2 billion dollars.

The Real Madrid history is a rich one, dating back to 1902.

Real Madrid was founded in 1902, and it is the pride of all Los Madridistas. A Harvard University study on football determined that Madrid is also the most popular team in the world, with more than 228 million supporters.

Let‘s take a look at the different logos used by Real Madrid through the team’s first 110 years.

Real Madrid removes the cross from its logo why?

There are anecdotal reports that claim the  1920-31 logo using the crown was approved by Spain’s King Alfonso XIII back in 1920. It disappeared from the uniforms from 1931-1941. After the Spanish Civil War ended, the crown returned and has been present on the team’s logos and uniforms for the past 71 years.

And then came the Real Madrid sports island/theme park.

Here’s another look at the logo as it appears in the promotional materials for the island.

Real Madrid removes the cross from its logo why?

Yahoo Sports reports on the history of the crown (with the cross) on the team’s uniforms.

The cross has only been a part of the club‘s crest because it was a part of King Alfonso XIII’s crown, which was added to the crest in 1920 when he granted the club his royal patronage and their name changed from Madrid Club de Futbol to Real Madrid. All the royal symbols were then removed from the club’s crest and name in 1931 when the monarchy was dissolved, though they were restored at the end of the Spanish civil war in 1941 and have remained since.

And so, the crown with the cross has been part of the team’s logo for more than 70 years. So why should it be removed? Yahoo’s Brook Peck referred to the removal of the cross as a “small, but deliberate change.”

Deliberate? That’s a good word for it. Some are pushing the change as “good business” while others say that it smacks of religious intolerance and censorship.

The cross remains on Real Madrid’s logo everywhere else. It is only removed from the logos in the new theme park being built in the UAE. You have to wonder, is there a concern that a tiny cross atop the crown might keep non-Christians away from the park’s amazing, waterfront stadium, gift shops, museum, hotel, and amusement park?

If you want to see what’s being planned for the new Real Madrid Theme Park, watch the promo clip here.

 

Comments (121)

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  • HUSSAR
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:02pm

    AndYetItMoves
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 1:29pm
    Despite the fact that not a single christian blazer on these threads will have ever heard of Real Madrid or maybe even the United Arab Emirates, I’m sure none of them will have any trouble starting an uproar over this transgression against the baby jesus.

    You sir are non compos mentis.

    Real Madrid if a fine team though I prefer Barcelona
    and have a long relationship with Liverpool and Manchester United, teams I have followed since childhood.
    Of course you also have Bayern Munchen which was one of my favorites for some time, at least till some crucial players left.

    As for the UAE…if you pay any attention to world, you’re aware of the UAE. Even if it’s only knowing that many of the worlds construction cranes are the building arguably the most amazing skyscrapers in history of mankind. Where the is now a city pushing the envelope of technology and future that emerged up from the sands like a mirage.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:12pm

      .
      You would be wrong.
      A professional soccer team wants to build a resort in a muslim country?
      This has nothing to do with religion.
      And they leave a cross off their logo?
      I don’t care one bit.

      Now, if the UAE asked all the Catholic churches in their country
      to leave the crosses out…………….
      What? They‘re aren’t?

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:03pm

      Noted, although I don‘t think I’d be going out on a limb in assuming you are the exception and not the rule. Considering you made the simple, rational deduction that Madrid has every right to remove religious symbols from its logo, I’d say you depart pretty dramatically from majority opinion at the blaze.

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    • ThePostman
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:03pm

      How would Americans react if a muslim soccer team lent their name to an American theme park and the crescent were removed? It would be considered an act of bigotry and hate. Just saying. And there would be supreme court rulings.

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    • jzs
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:06pm

      “Let‘s take a look at the different logos used by Real Madrid through the team’s first 110 years.”

      I don’t see a cross in any of the eight logos following this remark. I only see it in the image in the intro. Really, this is a soccer. There’s been no cross a hundred years, and none, except the one this website says is “typically used.”

      Sorry, but as stupid topics go, this ranks among the most stupid. We’re talking about soccer here. Oh please shut up.

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    • Goldwaterite
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:16pm

      @ THEPOSTMAN: They voluntarily removed it. It wasn’t removed from some legal ruling by the UAE. In your example, if the Muslim football team removed the crescent voluntarily, it would be considered an act of cultural sensitivity.

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    • USAMEDIC3008
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:50pm

      D I L L I G A F…
      The only part of the game I like is the last play of the game
      When all the cork soccer’s get on the field
      and try to kill each other

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    • Markf
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 8:03am

      Wow, go right for the insults. I was trying to decide if all that hate and superiorty makes you a Muslim or just your garden variety left wing communist. (you might want to hit spell check)
      No due respect intended, Mark f

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    • Nobummer
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 9:27am

      @hussar re: AndYetItMoves
      Right with you. Christian, Blazer and a La Liga fan…hat trick. I appreciate the talent of Real, but it is all bought and sold. Barcelona grooms talent in their youth programs. Real acts like spoiled brats and Barcelona, gentlemen. Contrast Ronaldo and Messi. This non-controversy isn’t surprising because Real is all about $$$…making and spending it. I am surprised they didn’t substitute a crescent to generate more UAE money.

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  • HUSSAR
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:02pm

    We on the other hand choose to die a slow death, allowing our “leaders” push us to a financial cliff. Those leaders knowingly choose not to make our nation energy independent by tapping into the massive sources within our own boarders. All the while the keep printing bill to pay for things we can’t afford or need. The fall of our nation, the suffering and blood is on their hands as well ass all of the ones that blindly agree with the power hungry and greedy agenda.

    Lastly there is no transgression here, they are a private company free to do what the will. The people that support that organization have the freedom to decide whether that bothers them or not. They are free to support or not to support at their leisure…such is the beauty of freedom and a free market…nor tose this have anything have to do with the baby Jesus.

    Your feeble attempt at a baited contemptuous insult simply places a smirk on my face as you ignorance is exposed.

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    • rgalunas
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:54pm

      wow you words are so careful it makes me wonder where you got ur degree? The school of the moon god or are you a secular humanist? Probably a rationalist humanist moon god worshiper is my guess yet when you say Baby Jesus remember he is the Lion of Judah too!!! To those who believe into everlasting life and those who don’t believe are already under judgement. No need to be judgemental when the baby Jesus is around! He knows your every thought.

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:00pm

      Yeah Hussar have a heart and show some respect.

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    • cantstandlibs
      Posted on April 4, 2012 at 6:16pm

      David was the Lion of Judah. Get it right.

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  • jespasinthru
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:58pm

    Why did I click on this thread first? I thought it was something important. Now ask me if I give a rat‘s behind about some soccer team’s logo. Soccer is boring, the players all look like wimps, and Americans over the age of 10 will never get into it.

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  • acovenantinblood
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:56pm

    Allah’s Apostle said, “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no-body will accept charitable gifts.”

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 34, Number 425

    Sounds just like the false prophet. Guess that would make the Mahdi the Antichrist…..Is anyone surprised?

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:16pm

      Surprised that you reject the prophet of another monotheistic faith, and that they reject yours? Can‘t say I’m surprised. Is it just me or is all religion kind of predictable in this way?

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  • sooner12
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:54pm

    I could give a whit about soccer.

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  • hogtrashhd
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 6:26pm

    doesn‘t all this anti christianity remind you of Christ’s disciples? they didn’t know him when he was in real trouble.. soo here we go again… the evil ones cannot burn him out of existance in our souls.. they’re on a losing mission… as usual.

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    • Hydra
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 6:36pm

      Yeah and one day we will all die and float into the clouds where we will all live happily ever with angels and hanging out with family and friends and the other 128 billion people that have lived on this planet right? Keep your morals, lose the blind faith.

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    • frank002
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:00pm

      Hydra, your concept of heaven tells me you are an ignoramus. Floating in the clouds is not what heaven is. Heaven means being in the presence of God. You know God, our creator. No, wait, you came from apes. Have a banana.

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    • Anse
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:27pm

      always blows my mind that people like “Frank002” still exist

      it’s 2012

      how are we not past this backwards bullshіt as a species already

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    • inblack
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:25pm

      Wow – did the atheist hate page link to this article.

      Yes there is a problem when Obama bows to the dictator kings of the middle east and when people deny their religion to make a buck.

      We’re all told to be tolerant of muslims when they kill innocent christains and jews but they cannot tolerate a cross on a logo?

      I for one would tell them to accept my logo or keep their resort, but then again, I’m not a coward who bows before people who hate me.

      As for you atheist haters, knock yourselves out mocking me. I do not care what you think nor do the 90+% of Americans that believe in God.

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:28pm

      Ah yes, because majority opinion will always be the best barometer for what’s right and wrong, fair and unfair, true and false.

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    • inblack
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:38pm

      @ANDYETITMOVES

      Yeah it amazes you that believers still exist when 90+% of people are believers?

      I guess you are surprised when the sun rises too?

      Because most of us feel you are in denial doesn’t mean that you are, but it aught to not surprise you so much.

      Keep searching and you will find God, I’m praying for you.

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    • Anse
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:40pm

      “We’re all told to be tolerant of muslims when they kill innocent christains and jews but they cannot tolerate a cross on a logo?”

      if you don’t like being tolerant, why not move there?

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    • inblack
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:49pm

      @ANSE – Why don’t you move there – oh because they’d kill you for telling them they are insane to believe in God.

      I don’t expect you to deny your beliefs – I just feel sorry for you.

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  • nfldude
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 5:46pm

    I’m a huge European and South American soccer fan, as well as being an NFL nut. RM caved to the moslems just as KLM did back in the day. The moslems in Riyadh demanded that KLM remove the cross from the crown on their logo or they would lose their landing rights in that garden city.

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  • deano24
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 5:45pm

    They are probably afraid some radical muslim might target the resort after being offended by the cross on the crown.

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:18pm

      Or perhaps it just makes sense that if we’re trying to talk them out of their archaic, delirious beliefs, maybe we should renounce our own.

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    • inblack
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:33pm

      @ANDYETITMOVES

      Yeah right Andy we’re going to deny God so we can cozy up to muslims.

      You atheist are all haters. We don’t you give up your silly ideas and accept God?

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  • majasdad
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 4:41pm

    The Blaze must be the only site in existence that actually pays someone to look for speck of a non-issue and then spin it to conspiracy proportions. Amazing.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 5:25pm

      Spain was the center of the Western Muslim Caliphate…

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    • BlenGeck
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 5:45pm

      You couldn’t pay me to go there now. Race-whore=muslim-whore

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    • BlackBeaver
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 6:38pm

      Sometimes the first signs of a dangerous trend are just a “speck of a non-issue”. If you want to ignore the trend of removing Christian symbols from team logos, nicknames and municipal seals and from monuments, go ahead. But don’t criticize those who are noticing this trend and reporting on it. Also, you might spend some time deciding how you react when they take away someting you hold dear.

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    • frank002
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 8:03pm

      The backwardness, hatred and intolerance of 7th century pedophile worshipers is hardly a non issue.

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:12pm

      Neither is the irony, idiocy, and embarrassment of being majority religious in the year 2012 in the world’s wealthiest, most powerful, and most advanced secular democracy.

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    • inblack
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:56pm

      @ANDYETITMOVES

      If you are embarrassed by us why live here?

      We are a Judeo/Christian nation founded on a belief in God. You are a secularist hater.

      We believe in freedom of religion not freedom from it.

      We also believe you may not have found God yet, but we are praying for you.

      God loves you.

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  • BrerRabbit
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 4:09pm

    Dhimmitude in action.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 4:45pm

      It’s not unsual for the Spanish to acquiesce to Islam. They never learn. Convervsely…the “tolerant” faith of Islam does not allow religious images outside of Islam to be displayed publically or privately in Muslim lands anyway. Real Madrid is a heavy hitter in the soccer world and worth a lot of money. To do business in Arabia they have to forsake any christian images even ones as innocuous as a cross on a crown on a logo.

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  • ccrabill
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 3:12pm

    SHAME on them!

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 3:59pm

      The western world “IS” genuflecting to islam in hopes of keeping their heads. Best of luck, I hope you are happy with your choices when it comes down to the wire. And it will.

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:07pm

      Perhaps when western leaders stop genuflecting to christianity we can approach this crisis in a more calculated, sane, and efficient manner. Maybe then we can condescend to Islamic theocrats without convicting ourselves of hypocrisy.

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  • dannyo
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:41pm

    the fact that they removed a cross speaks volumes…enough said…go barca…

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  • vaman
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:33pm

    A blaze “attack on christianity” story. Just more blaze bunk.

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:42pm

      More like a story on the advancing Jihad.

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    • father_of_10
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:56pm

      Doofus, it is not about an attack on Christianity, it is about the soccer club subgugating themselves to the Arab money machine. It shows that the club is less interested in its foundations and origins than it is in money.

      How much money would it take for you to bow to the Arabs?

      I hated communists even before they started calling themselves liberals.
      http://fatherof10.com

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    • majasdad
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 4:38pm

      Yup.

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  • wampanoag
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:32pm

    There are more and more Muslim players (from africa). They dont like the cross.

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  • ginger100
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:30pm

    Spain is owned by the arabs. They may as well turn their churches into mosques.

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  • coffee just black
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:27pm

    Nothing more than the price of doing business.
    ” when in Rome, do as the Romans do”

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  • dmerwin
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:12pm

    Here is the reason, the Spaniards are deathly afraid of offending Muslims. They capitulated after the 2004 train bombings in Madrid and even changed their government. Hard to believe that these are the people who sailed across the Atlantic and conquered Central and South American. I guess that those were the people with the “tough” genes and they stayed on this side of the Atlantic.

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    • Stu D. Baker-Hawk
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:22pm

      Spaniards are, and have always been, cowards at heart. If the native North- and South-Americans had been as equally well armed and provisioned as their 15th century conquistador invaders, not one of the so-called Latin American countries of today would be speaking Spanish (nor would their North American counterparts be speaking English for that matter!).

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:27pm

      The Aztecs were pretty well provisioned. Cortez was WAY more ruthless than the Aztecs could fathom.

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    • Mandors
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:35pm

      When the Spanish troops were pulled out of Iraq, they were humiliated by the cowardice their people showed after the bombing.

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:38pm

      Indeed. It is required of the Jihad to erase any vestige of the previous culture. In this case, it is the symbols of Christianity that are the target. While Christians may bicker amongst themselves as to the merits of iconography, the Jihadis care only that anything non-Islamic be destroyed and replaced with their symbols, their icons, their religious institutions.

      Given the choice, I will select the “blasphemy” of a cross over the abomination that is Islam.

      Sadly, Christian Europe is falling to the Jihad before our eyes.

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    • chjaka
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 3:35pm

      The Aztecs were far more ruthless than the Spanish and Cortez was one of the most principled and brave leaders in history, but only those who have actually studied The Conquest would know what they’re talking about.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 4:23pm

      chjaka
      Cortez burned his ships to force his men to fight. The Spaniards exiled him to Oaxaca. He lied to the Aztecs and took Moctezuma as a hostage to force the Aztecs to quit. Now I will agree the Aztecs killed literally thousands of other native Americans, which created a lot of allies for Cortez, but Cortez was no saint.

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  • Taxpayer550
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:07pm

    Matthew 24:10-13
    “At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.”

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  • alwayshappy
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:01pm

    I find the removal of the cross to be very tacky!

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  • ShyMan
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 1:59pm

    Gee I wonder?

    The reason the world loves soccer is because the rules are easy to follow. Not like those hard to understand ruled in american football and baseball.

    Kick the ball. Don’t use your hands. Except this guy. He can touch it with his hands.
    Kick it into that giant net. Once or twice per game is enough to win.
    Have fun.

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  • Sol Invictus
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 1:48pm

    “If you are not familiar with the soccer world, Real Madrid is on par with other globally-recognized professional sports franchises like the New York Yankees or the Dallas Cowboys”. On a par?? I don’t know what pathetic so called sport these Yankees and Cowboys play but Real Madrid are up there with Barcelona and ManUtd as REAL sporting clubs, not some colonial kids running around in crash helmets and tights (or is that your version of rounders – or baseball as Jane Austen named it)?

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 1:59pm

      I‘m pretty sure our olympic medal record indicates that we’re doing something right over here, oh and the fact that faking injuries doesn’t play an integral role in American athletics.

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    • Stu D. Baker-Hawk
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:11pm

      I would put a bruiser American football player in front of some panty-waisted ‘soccer’ player any day of the week. We grow ‘em HUGE and MEAN in the States and there are few in the world who would DARE try to take on one of our players one-to-one. So go and grab your European ‘man bag’ (i.e., purse) and prance away like the good little Euro-trash you are, Sally.

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    • saranda
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:14pm

      @andyetitmoves – just a little thin skinned? His comments were specific to football and baseball, no need to get all wee wee’d up over it.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:18pm

      What a dbag.

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    • Sol Invictus
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:19pm

      @ Stu D Baker Hawk
      You are SO easy to wind up. Just so long as you keep your obese hulks in your own backyard, the rest of the world will enjoy real sport. By the way, when anyone else has a “World Series” they invite other countries.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:29pm

      Watching paint dry.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:32pm

      Sol Invictus
      So form a baseball team if they are good enough I’m sure we could get an American team to play the winner of the Japanese, Cuban, Dominican, Venezuelan, Taiwanese, English playoff. Oh and you can keep cricket.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:33pm

      Hurling, now that’s a sport.

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    • Pucci
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:34pm

      I to cannot spell doosh.

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    • saranda
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:49pm

      @dmerwin – you might to check out the Baseball World Cup played every couple years before you run off your mouth about America’s dominance in that sport.

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    • Stu D. Baker-Hawk
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:59pm

      @ Sol Invictus: So your name ‘Sol Invictus’ means ‘Invincible Sun,’ yes? Really?? Wow, someone here has a very high opinion of themselves when they’re so obviously limp-wristed and gay.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 3:29pm

      saranda
      Didn’t say they are invincible. Just said the best players from those other countries end up in MLB.

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    • bpodlesnik
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 4:00pm

      @ Stu

      How old are you? 16? Seriously, you respond back by calling him a name? Why?Because you couldn’t think of anything else to come back with? Grow up.

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    • GBTVFan_Non_American_Overseas
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 10:10pm

      @Sol Invictus

      Congratulations!!!!!…..You’ve just won the “Encinom Award” for the most stupid comment of the day!!!

      They weren’t comparing the sports per se, they were comparing the franchise and the meaning of those teams to their respective countries and fans. The sports aren’t made to compare between them. They are just what they are, and are the result of different cultures and activities among different countries and periods of time.

      Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, Tim Teabow and Lin can’t ride a bicycle as Armstrong does, so are they less sportsmen as he is?……they are just made and trained for their respective field…that’s all….“Different strokes for different folks”.

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  • Watchyer6
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 1:47pm

    People from Madrid are called “Madrilenos,“ not ”Madridistas.”

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  • dutchtouch
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 1:39pm

    Real Madrid would say that they are just being pragmatic. If the sport had existed in the 8th Century they surely would have removed it from 711 to 1492 as well.

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  • Mr.Fitnah
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 1:32pm

    Soccer… Oh .. look at all that running…ohj!

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  • AndYetItMoves
    Posted on April 2, 2012 at 1:29pm

    Despite the fact that not a single christian blazer on these threads will have ever heard of Real Madrid or maybe even the United Arab Emirates, I’m sure none of them will have any trouble starting an uproar over this transgression against the baby jesus.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence

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    • moreteaplease
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 1:45pm

      I’m a Christian and I have heard of both many times in my life; so I guess you are not the smartest person in the room eh? As for creating an uproar? That’s yet to come but not by me.

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    • thekuligs
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 1:52pm

      Yeah we’re huge football fans in our house. Not only have we heard of them but we seem to have conversations about Cristiano Ronaldo at least once a week. I could care less if RM wants to remove the cross from their logo. What, are they going to play football in the name of Christ? If they aren’t being made to remove it by the powers that be, I could care less.

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    • Aquinas
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 1:54pm

      What moves., fool?

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    • beverlee
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 1:59pm

      As a quasi religious individual, might I point out all that the “intelligent” among us have brought to the table..weapons, bombs, a-bomb, pollution, wasn’t it the medical field that stated homosexuality was a mental disease, let us not forget frivolous lawsuits by lawyers, idiotic laws by politicians, education practices that are tearing apart our education system.

      Ah, yes, intelligence always has the answers.

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:06pm

      If you’re arguing that ignorance is preferable to intelligence, then I‘m afraid you’re a bit more than quasi-religious.

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    • 1TrueOne55
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:17pm

      Only an antagonist would post a comment like that with a link to ignorance. And if you really know something about the history of the Cross as a Christian icon you would know that it was not until 315AD that it was even considered. The early Christian church did not believe in lconism since it was against the 2nd Commandment laid down by God at Mt. Sinai to Moses. It should be the same today but Christianity has been infected with Iconism from the “Roman” Catholic Church era.

      My faith is not shaken when someone removes a cross or has one removed from property since Jesus never worshipped at a cross he worshipped at the Temple yearly in Jerusalem. And yes Christianity was a “Cult” (offshoot) of Judaism since its original followers were primarily Jews.

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 2:27pm

      A link to ignorance? Tell me with a straight face that religion does not appeal to the meekest intellects among us. Look at the threads on the blaze and tell me that you reject the idea that religiosity is negatively correlated to intelligence. If you truly believe that intelligence begets religiosity, then I‘m afraid you’re not as well informed on the true nature of Christianity as you claim to be.

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    • jer133
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 4:22pm

      Wow that link to wikipedia is spot on! Religious people have not contributed one iota to the scientific community at large. People that can afford higher education are by no means materialistic and skipping church to stand in line for the next Ipad. Being (upper)middle class has no bearing if you’re religious or not which is why all of Africa is atheist… nah that couldn’t have any bearing on the outcome of the poll. When you ask someone on the street if they are religious they can answer honestly and open because this isn’t a world of extremes. Answering yes doesn’t immediately put you in the Jesus Freak camp. Thanks for the link I’ll be sure to add it to my bookmarks!

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    • RebelYell1862
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 7:53pm

      @ANDYETITMOVES I don’t care about your communist, atheist rants or your sissy sport. You’re just another angry left wing pr1ck who likes to play here with the grown ups. Run on back upstairs little boy, your mommy’s calling you for supper.

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    • AndYetItMoves
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 9:59pm

      Actually I’m a strict fiscal conservative, might even call myself a libertarian although I’m undecided on certain law and order principles (drugs, gun law, etc.). The reason I admittedly enjoy antagonizing on here is because I’m so ashamed of the abomination that used to be the party of fiscal conservatism in this country. Somewhere along the line, candidates began to realize that the best way to consolidate support was to pander to the visceral paranoia and self-righteousness of our christian majority (flawlessly embodied by this website and its readership), and being a republican suddenly became pretty torturous to those of us that still believe in education, diplomacy, and secular government. The delirious, apocalyptic rhetoric found on this site is the reason conservatism no longer has a credible voice in this country.

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    • inblack
      Posted on April 2, 2012 at 11:13pm

      @ANDYETITMOVES

      Oh Andy, I knew there was a reason for all your hate. It’s because your beloved party has been taken over by a bunch of religion imposing progressives.

      Well you have my sympathy. I too have watched the republican party usurped by the international progressives, world govt types and big govt chickenhawks. But I have faith. Faith that one day we will turn these people around by prayer, logic and reason, not by mocking their beliefs.

      God Bless.

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