Why Has the Chinese Navy Unveiled Its Submarine-Hunting Plan?
- Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:26pm by
Liz Klimas
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In a move that New Scientist calls “somewhat baffling,” the Chinese Navy has publicly published a proposed plan to hunt down enemy submarines using drones.
New Scientist describes the research conceived by the naval academy’s department of “underwater weaponry and chemical defense” for the most efficient “route planning” to search for a submarine:
The plan, developed by the naval academy in Dalian, China, is to choose the best hunting pattern for a drone using the power of the genetic algorithm — a search engine that evolves an optimum solution by discarding feeble offspring and breeding the best to make ever stronger ones.
The route evolved would make the best use of fuel, cater for air and sea threats and work with dropped sonar buoys.
The research for this algorithm published in the journal Advanced Materials Research states:
[...] in the actual campaign and training, an optimal or satisfying route should be planned for the ship-based UAV from the original point to the target point to guarantee that the ship-based UAV can complete the mission satisfactorily and safely. Based on this demand, the math models are founded in this paper, and a deep study on the route planning of the ship-based UAV for searching submarine is made under the assumed battle condition.
New Scientist points out that one would assume “military hunts [of] submarines might be a secret” and questions why it would publish this information and risk an adversary developing counter measures. Interestingly enough, New Scientist notes, this is not the first time Chinese publication of what some would consider sensitive information has furrowed brows:
In 2010 Chinese researchers published a treatise on how to hack and trip large chunks of the US electricity grid. This led (after much initial disbelieving spluttering) to much angry rhetoric from aggrieved US commentators, not least the Department of Homeland Security.
That said though, New Scientist also speculates that perhaps the strong push for scientific publication in the country has limited the time allowed for stepping back and discerning information that should and should not be published.
Perhaps the drone the country will use is the “secret” one Wired reported about last year that was developed to be a scout ahead of its warships.
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Comments (74)
B-Neil
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 10:21amIts the United States. Tell them anthing today and thay will go nuts. I mean, the Chinees do have a sence of humor. Look around and listen. You will learn what I said is true. GOD BLESS AMERICA
Report Post »POdinWV
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 10:14amOnly two reasons for publishing this now that I can readily think of: 1. A Chinese disident leaking secrets. 2. Chinese gov’t sending Obama administration a heads up to let them know that all their investments in our economy, i.e., the debt they bought, will be secured by whatever means necessary. I rule out #1 and accept #2. This administration is seen as WEAK by the Chinese and they are letting everyone know that. Keep ‘em loaded and keep ’em close!
Report Post »UrbanCombatSurvivor
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 10:17pmOption #3
Report Post »The communist Chinese government is working closely with the communist in the white house, and this is part of a larger push for globalize everything through UN regulation.
Cynicalone
Posted on June 6, 2012 at 4:53pmwith or wthout UN recognition
Report Post »stm62
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 6:54amIt use to be that everyone feared and respected the U.S., now, thanks to our selfish and corrupt leaders, nobody does. I never thought that this would happen in my lifetime. I want the old America back.
Report Post »POdinWV
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 10:17amYou had better get ready to fight, if you aren’t now. Keep ‘em loaded and keep ’em close.
Report Post »UpUr_S
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 6:55amYou want the “old America” back ? ? ? Well，empires come and go, but when they go, the chances are they will never come back。 So learn to live with it !
Report Post »As a matter of fact, from the prime of the Ming Dynasty to present time (from approx.1450 to 2012), it took us almost 550 years. So, how soon will you expect your “old America” be back ? 2562 ?
UpUr_S
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 6:59am@POdinWV, get ready to fight whom? are you declaring war with the Chinese, just because they unveiled their submarine-hunting plan?
Report Post »MammalOne
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 2:22amBS! How is the search algorithm going to “evolve” to be most efficient? Everyone knows Obama and George Sorros invented evolution to brainwash people into not believing in Jesus!
ABO 2012!
Report Post »Cynicalone
Posted on June 6, 2012 at 5:13pmI believe you’re half right. I believe they Tremble at his name, JESUS!
Report Post »wntsmallgov
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 1:54amMost of the tech advances that the chioms got was from Clinton admin. Thanks to gore.
Report Post »UpUr_S
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:14amJust like the Chinese gave you the advance tech to make gun powder, paper, compass, and how to print, right? Wonder what Obama do if the US Treasury still don’t have the printer to print those U$dollars? And therefore to some of you, of course it’s the Chinese who created the problem of QE1 QE2 QE3, …., right?
Report Post »babylonvi
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 1:30amWe can not fight a war with China unless we do it with 19th century technology. Everything else we and the military uses is made in China(or Taiwan or some other cheap Asian country. Up until the 1970′s the military only bought U.S. make goods. They sacrificed national security to save money and now we build almost nothing.
Report Post »rightwinglefty
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 12:33amNice. We just lost a drone in Iran and they probably sold it to the CHICOMs. I would have put a virus in that drone and conveniently lose it in Iran but I don’t think this CIA is that smart.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 1:36am@rightwinglefty
Report Post »You might be that smart but, the WH is definitely not that that smart. On purpose I would imagine.
UpUr_S
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:40amYeap, the American are all smart, and the Chinese are all dumb!
Report Post »Well, just go to your near by universities and see how those Chinese foreign students are doing in their engineering, physics, math and computer science departments — don’ worry, I suspect they probably copy and cheating anyway, right?!
Mrs. Bowers
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:14pmGlobal intimidation. One-upmanship over everyone else around the world.
Report Post »afishfarted
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 11:25pmMrs. Bowers, it could be intimidation. But I think it‘s more likely that they’re sendoing a message that they are mow the new super power-thanks to both republicans and democrats selling us out for short term personal gain. Nixon opened the door, and ever since, there has been a stream of un-American activity going on. And it AIN’T about promoting free trade, either
Report Post »jasmer
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 7:31amYou’re forgetting the old USSR concept of “maskirova”, meaning strategic deception. My money’s on their publishing this information to give the false impression that they really have the capability, and dissuade navies in the region from making obvious decisions to counter the feeble Chinese Navy.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 11:27amChina is doing something similar to Teddy Roosevelt did with the Great White Fleet. China is seeking to demonstrate growing Chinese military power and blue-water navy capability. This is designed to show that China is to become the Master of the Seas. We truly are on the cusp of loosing supremacy as the naval power. China has not really had a war since Korea. They have to project military and naval power. It isn’t an accident that this intelligence was released during a time that Russia (a sworn enemy to China) and China have both voiced support to Iran.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:34pmI’ll take a guess here. Because of counter intelligence, moreover because they want adversaries to think they are using drones when they are actually using satellites to hunt subs.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:39pmIt’s really not difficult to baffle a modern scientist or a military general whom is more preoccupied running a company on the side.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:44pmYou know why? Because your Heaven and earth has faded away.
Report Post »last frontier
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:20pmA little bit of Mao Alinsky.
Report Post »bitter clinger
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:58pmIts ESPN’S fault,all that **** and ***** talk.
Report Post »bitter clinger
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:14pmguke and schinxk
Report Post »UpUr_S
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:36amYeap, the American are all smart, and the Chinese are all dumb!
Report Post »Well, just go to your near by universities and see how those Chinese foreign students are doing in their engineering, physics, math and computer science departments — don’ worry, I suspect they probably copy and cheating anyway, right?!
UpUr_S
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:39amCouldn’t stand to see another country rising up but their citizens are not white, right? Love to see you squirm, dude!
Report Post »PoliticallyRightUs.Com
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:22pmBahahahaha… If it is “Made in China” we have nothing to worry about!
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:59pmThe Chinese keep all their good stuff for themselves and ship their crap to the silly Americans that become entranced by shiny, cheap, plastic.
Report Post »Not_A_Useful_Idiot
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:01pmNot sure I understand your comment. What’s not made in China? Where are you shopping?
Report Post »tharpdevenport
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:05pmThen it’s even DEADLIER — now it contains razor blades, and lead paint.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:36pmIn the 1970′s, a LtCdr cautioned my Navy class: “Don’t make Ivan dumb”
Report Post »That is still a good concept. The enemy is not 8 feet tall. Nor is the enemy 4 feet tall. He is 6 feet tall. Do not cower from him, but respect him. And, when at war with him — kill him.
UpUr_S
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 7:57am@ “PoliticallyRightUs.Com“ and ”NoNannyState4me”, good products never cheap, and cheap products never expensive! American buy Chinese not because they love the Chinese people, it’s the Chinese price they love! So what the hell are you all complaining about, that you are not getting good enough quality for the cheap price that you are willing to pay for ? You wouldn’t expect the same quality of a Hyundai or a Kia as a Porsche or a Mercedes, would you?
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:09pmbeen using drones on my land for years…eyes in the sky.
if was criminal like the govt would add sonar/radar/infrared/green/blue, 50cal with depleted uranium rounds…
this is bs news…rc’s have been out for how long…?
Report Post »there are things called orbital man made thingies that can see billions of miles…but cannot see a dam sub…fargin please.
Procket1800
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:02pmOver the last few years the USN has moved 2-3 missile boats to the west coast from Kingsbay GA. As our nuclear threats have increased with N. Korea and China. They are the ultimate deterrent. Right now we only have 14 SSBN. A far cry from the 41 for freedom.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:00pmChinese wok won’t work.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:38pmand yesterday our navy made news by talking about the 100-mile range rail guns that they are trying to put onto ships. gotta love it.
who is ready for another war – i know i am…
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 1:03amme and mine are running out of blood and flesh…
Report Post »wbalzley
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 2:38am@Soybomb315…Tell that to the MILLIONS who will lose life, limb, and loved ones when World War 3 breaks out in the next year or so…I hope you get your fill of the blood and horror of war firsthand and in person…I SPIT on your thoughtless remark…
Report Post »UpUr_S
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:24amsoybomb315: who is ready for another war – i know i am…?
Report Post »It’s too damn bad that there was NOT NEAR enough of you, otherwise the US would not be defeated in Korea 1953 — although American would love to refer that as “stalemate”, but the fact remain, that the Chinese did actually push the American all the way back to 38 parallel from the Yalu River, from day 1 the Chinese entered the conflict. :)
SageInWaiting
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:20pmSpeaking about sub hunting…. we kinda missed that one that launched a miss… uh “airplane contrail” off of LA.
Report Post »JOMODOC
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:58pmyeah
Report Post »So Cal Tea
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:02pmPerfect!
Report Post »Latter-Day-Soldier
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 2:15amI think that was a Far Eastern dragon mating ritual. ;)
Report Post »bhelmet
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:11pmTheir technology is what we gave them – directly or indirectly – they may not have it perfected thanks to their system of slave labor, but they can finance its development by those who understand and perhaps had a hand in developing it for us. What they lack in knowledge, they make up for, in spades, with money. We cannot compete with the Chinese as far intrinsic assets go – that will be the difference on the main stage. What they do not understand are those of us, who like our Founders, that will stand with our single-shot rifles to PROTECT/DEFEND what we perceive as RIGHTFULLY ours. That is as powerful now as it was in 1775.
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:31pmProbably the technology from the stolen drone that went off course last year.
Report Post »2theADDLED
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:29pmTechnology does not make you a winner might I say it‘s the minds behind it for example IED’s with a EMP most will be lost. Goes back to the Marine Mantra “improvise, adapt, and overcome.”
Report Post »UpUr_S
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:47am@Bhelmet: What they do not understand are those of us, who like our Founders, that will stand with our single-shot rifles to PROTECT/DEFEND what we perceive as RIGHTFULLY ours. That is as powerful now as it was in 1775.
And you don’t think us Chinese would do the same — even knowing that you have the nuclear capability to wipe us out 50 times, and we have only enough to wipe you out once or twice ? ? ? And please don’t give me that crap about how brave are the American but not the Chinese — remember, of all the military conflicts the Chinese were involved, the American have never won even once, and those were the ragtag Chinese soldiers against the well armed US military!
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:04pmwhy worry about submarine “hunting”….We should be worried about submarine foreclosures since they will soon own them
Report Post »BBEV
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:24pmLet then try and get them
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:33pmBBEV-
Report Post »are you suggesting we default? wouldn’t that be immoral, lol.
I am sure Barry would hand them over without a fuss.
soybomb315
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:35pmThis isnt the spanish american war…The way things go these days – our government would just give them away
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 7:08pmDefault! Charge them 20 trillion for killing puppies!
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:22pmThey’re trying to create a “*****” in our armor…(false intel). Just as the Brits did during WWII by taking a dead bum off the streets, dressing him in an officer uniform with a briefcase handcuffed to his wrist and staging a sunken vessel allowing the dead body to wash ashore with fake plans of the Normandy invasion in the briefcase. This false intel added to the other forms of trickery used by the allies that the invasion would be coming in north of the actual landing @ Normandy….nothing more
Report Post »UpUr_S
Posted on March 5, 2012 at 8:56amWhat will be foreclosure is the US government, not those 2nd hand hardware. And soon enough Barry, Joe, and the company will be working for Beijing, just like Heny K and GBush sr. !
Report Post »ASE
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:02pmI would suspect it being a deception/distraction. Rather than have UAV’s as sub hunters, why not have under water USV’s. Have them come up periodically for solar power replenishment, then sink back down to a specific depth/lat/long where they sit along suspected or strategic routes waiting for activity to happen. Then when something is detected, surface briefly to send a ‘supershort’ highly directional signal to a satellite, and go back down to continue sensing. With proper design, this can be small enough to be extremely difficult to detect, and very long-lasting. Shoot, you might even make them able to be placed on station by dolphins, and later retrieved by the same method.
If done right, you could set a whole arrray of these as a sensor barrier.
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:23pmCheck out Rutgers University’s submarine glider program, now more than 10 years old! Propulsion is by descent and ascent gliding/soaring, with buoyancy changes providing the sink and lift!
Report Post »confederacyofdunces
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 9:23pmPlease look up the word “sosus”.
Report Post »GO-FOR-LIBERTY
Posted on March 1, 2012 at 7:53amThat’s easy~~~sosus spelled the other way is us=sos. Nuf said!!
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:01pmCommunist China’s emboldened by a weak Obama foreign policy, and the weaker domestic policy. They see and know of the cuts to the Defense Department. Not to mention how Obama redefined combat pay, and plans to change their medical benefits.
Report Post »SoundStride
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:52pmWell hopefully just like everything “MADE IN CHINA” its just a big pile of ¢rap. You ever think they make fun of us by referring to us as “damn round eye” id bet they do the damn commie slopes.
Report Post »Jackie Rogers, Jr.
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:46pmMy question is what does underwater weaponry and chemical defense have in common that would cause them to be placed in the same department? It seeems sort of random. Like the women’s shoes and hardware department.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:35pmThey are showing us what they can do; to act as a form of deterence and non interferance with their future plans…the game they are playing is the same we have until Obama the False One came into office – deterence and power projection.
I can also figure Obama gave them the secrets for our submarines so to make it easier to sink them in any battle.
Remember everyone that SLBM that launched about a year or so back during rush hour off the shore of CA? China is once again showing they can reach out and harm us if we take them on.
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 10:34pmBINGO!!! But wait, wasn’t that just a plane contrail that entered some time/space continum to appear like it was from a missel??
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:33pmWell you know why, they are going to conquer the U.S, and you’d know it if you look to the stars of Heaven for the seasons.
Report Post »Elena2010
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:33pmTsun Tzu classic strategy. It’s better to fake out your enemy than actually start counting bodies.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:37pmSun Tzu – Attack first STRATEGY, then ALLIANCES.
That is what they are doing, showing the deterence and projection of force as we have done for ages; and at the same time using the plan to project the image of our traditional allies would be safer in the Chinese sphere of influence.
Report Post »spareGgnome
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:37pmyeh or make you enemies try to make a “counter” product so they can steal the plans lol.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:37pmThe art of war. But then again, if they want to defeat us, they just stop buying treasury bonds, and send the bill collectors.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:37pmWell they already occupied the U.S for a while although it has slightly dropped off, ad they own a lot of U.S debt. The relationship China has with the U.S is similar to the relationship the U.S had with Germany before WW2.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 5:38pmThose money changers sure cause a lot of problems.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 6:00pm@Darmok: That is another part of attacking STRATEGY; while they make us dependant upon them they have control over our strategy in almost all matters.
@ItsJustTim: Bankers and moneychangers in Chinese history, if my references are accurate, were among the most despised men around. Yet they controlled much power via money; just as China does with us.
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