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Why is California’s Economy Such a Mess?

It is a well-known fact that California has the largest state deficit in American history. Furthermore, at 11.9 percent, California also has the dismal distinction of having the nation’s second-highest unemployment rate.

And that’s not all. There are other points that some argue contribute to California’s weak economy*:

  • Top Marginal Personal Income Tax Rate: 10.55 percent
  • Top Marginal Corporate Income Tax Rate: 8.84 percent
  • Personal Income Tax Progressivity (change in tax liability per $1,000 of income): $36.19
  • Property Tax Burden (per $1,000 of personal income): $27.18
  • Remaining Tax Burden: (per $1,000 of personal income): $16.13
  • Debt Service as a Share to Tax Revenue: 8.7 percent
  • Public Employees Per 10,000 of Population (full-time equivalent): 502.1
  • State Minimum Wage: $8.00
  • Average Worker’s Compensation Costs: $2.72
  • Right to Work State: No

Obviously, after reviewing the above, California is not in very good shape (economically speaking).

So what is to be done?

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, (D-Calif) believes that “red tape” and an “out of whack” tax system have been detrimental to his city’s economic success. Therefore, he is proposing to cut frivolous taxes (including one on new car dealers) so that Los Angeles can attract businesses and create jobs.

However, as is the case whenever anyone talks about cutting taxes or state programs, Villaraigosa has been met with opposition.

Recently, during an interview with Neil Cavuto on Fox Business, Villaraigosa had a chance to discuss some of his plans to help spur his city’s (and state’s) economy.

“You’re going after this tax on car dealers,” Cavuto said during the interview, “Obviously you face the same budgetary pressures as many mayors, but you’re addressing them head on and ticking off a lot of people. Does that worry you?”

“No,” Villaraigosa laughed. “I’m operating as if this is the end of the line and I got to make the tough decisions.”

“It might well be,” Cavuto said in reference to the mayor’s actions possibly ending his political career.

The mayor responded that that did not worry him.

“I’m worried about the fact that we have to get our local governments, our state and federal governments, on a more sustainable path,” Villaraigosa said. “That means we’re going to have to cut cost and cut programs, we’re going to have to be more efficient. It also means we’re going to have to create more revenues and one way to do it is to cut red tape (which we’re doing), cut some of our taxes which are out of whack (which we’re also doing), but we’re also making investments.”

Watch the interview with Neil Cavtuto:

Villaraigosa went on to talk about the national extension of his 30/30 Initiative known as “America Fast Forward,” a “loan program” that could supposedly “create nearly 1 million jobs, produce $158 billion in economic output and generate $51 billion in worker income.”

And how is this any different from the Federal stimulus plan? It incentivizes localities such as Los Angeles to put up their own money, says the mayor.

Villaraigosa has also argued that the program will put people to work at “little cost, since 98 percent of the federal dollars would be repaid from local sources.”

“It’s critical that we make investments too,” the mayor argued. “We gotta’ cut on the one hand, there’s no question about that, but we gotta’ compete with China and Europe and the developing nations of the world who are all investing in high speed rail, investing in their ports—” he said before Cavuto interrupted him to make the point that one needs to have capital before they can invest.

The Mayor simply reiterated that it will be their own money they invest in Los Angeles’ economy.

Final thought: if Californians are really serious about turning their economy around, reducing their state deficit, and spurring job growth, cutting frivolous taxes would seem like an excellent place to start.

However, advocating a program that AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka says “will help revive manufacturing,” and that Barbara Boxer (D-Calif) says is “the kind of initiative that I believe the House and Senate can work together on,” may not be the best idea.

*Arthur B. Laffer, Stephen Moore, Jonathan Williams, Rich States, Poor States: Alec-Laffer State Economic Competitiveness Index (Washington, D.C.: American Legislative Exchange Council, 2010) 76.

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  • civdab
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 6:11pm

    As a Cali resident, I know A LOT of intelligent liberals who complain how the state is being run and do not want to pay more taxes. Then when it’s election time, they talk with their other liberal friends and determine that the current crash course is preferable to having to vote Republican. Just like with any cult, the brainwashing is complete and total. It leaves me aghast every time!

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    • TriforcePlayer
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 6:27pm

      They get what they paid for.

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    • willbedone
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 6:48pm

      Leave Califoricators, and let them stew in their own flotsam

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    • oathkeeper10
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 7:48pm

      As a FORMER californian, You might want to think about getting out as soon as you can! The future for your state and its residents who pay taxes, is not bright.

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    • MoreC02
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 8:01pm

      Intelligent libs? Now that’s an oxymoron if I ever heard one.

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    • NOTYERHUCKLEBERRY
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 8:02pm

      As long as they believe in ‘The Money Tree’, they are bound to fail. I just don’t want my taxes to bail the idiots out. My state has enough problems with liberal spending.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 8:29pm

      Easy to figure why Cal is in big trouble.
      Environmental groups, labor unions, minority entitlements, illegal immigrants, and environmental groups.
      OOPS! I said environmental groups twice.
      See, people, when you can’t get water to farm, can’t drill for oil, can’t log, can’t build a dam, can‘t ride OHV’s, can’t do anything for the impossible hurdles from radical environmentalists, you will basically have no economy.
      Have a nice, clean environment out there, and enjoy feeding, the medical costs, and taxpayer- paid ‘free’ schooling for those illegals.
      I think all Whites should get the H out of there asap.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 8:39pm

      You’ve just described insanity,they vote for the same people expecting different results.Libs always think government is the answer to all problems,government is the problem.Like Reagan said when government expands liberty contracts.California is controlled by progressives and as long as that’s the case they will never prosper,government will make everyone equal,equally poor.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 10:19pm

      “Why is California’s Economy Such a Mess?”
      Let’s see… the logo of California is a Bear and a Red Star… What other economy or Country has the same logo? Can you say Russia? Yep, Russia and California share the same logo and therefore share the same ideology. California and Russia are one in the same now because the people in both places think alike. Can you say comrade you citizens of Californian? Your OWS brothers can. Both will fail like history tells us. Your ideology will never work in the long run. The definition of communism is failure.

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    • amrcn
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 10:54pm

      People hate CA because the stupid taxes run the smart people out of the state and it is full on illegal mex **** roaches who have babies like insects…..I would never live there because every time I hear a mex who can’t speak English it makes me sick and the state is so stupid they do nothing about it.

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 11:39pm

      Why is California’s Economy Such a Mess?
      ===============================

      In a word…. DEMOCRATS!

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    • rml720
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 11:53pm

      I think someone switched the mayor with a double. He actually sounds reasonabl, which is opposite of the regular Antonio.

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 3:53am

      I can easily think of a few reasons why Cali is a mess. pelosi, pelosi’s cronies, corporate corruption, government corruption, gross mismanagement at the goverment levels, pelosi, pelosi’s cronies, p*ss poor and unnecessary regulations, fraud, pelosi, pelosi’s cronies….etc. etc. etc. Just off the top of my Patriotic head.

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    • Jackers
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:07am

      How about “cutting” all of the tax-paid benefits going to tens of thousands of illegal aliens in California? How about ending California’s status as a sanctuary state? How about enforcing our immigration laws in California and enacting programs such as E-Verify rather than the DREAM Act?

      It’s simply amazing how Mayor Antonio will discuss all ways of “cutting costs” while ignoring the 10,000-pound elephant in the room…

      Reduce all of the ridiculous regulations, reduce taxes, and end illegal immigration!

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:28am

      Oathkeeper
      While I applaud your decision to keep your oath, I disagree with your wanting Californians to leave the state. Stay the hell in your own state-you know, the one that you screwed up by voting for freaks for the last 100 years. I don’t want CA idiots to come anywhere near me. Just look at how former Californians have screwed up Colorado. Denver is as bad as Los Angeles now. They made their bed, I say sleep in it. Americans listen up. If you see Californians moving into your state, run them out on a rail as fast as you can. Or you will be sorry.

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:18am

      Why is California’s Economy Such a Mess?

      Sacramento has been ruled by liberal Dem/socialist/Mexican Lobbyists, and jerks like Tony Villar for decades. As the good paying jobs left the state, so did the taxpayers who footed the bill to support the social programs for the illegal alien invasion the leftists depend on, to cling to power.

      Once to envy of many, Kaliporninia, in many areas, is now a third-world state. It has been hard to watch, and impossible to stop. Sad, very sad.

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:22am

      @Mil-Dot Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:28am
      Seems to me that most of the people that post here, are the type of people who should be welcomed to your community.

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:23am

      Where do I start…California is like looking at the future of America. I remember 20 years ago saying to my friends out of State that we have a real problem with illegal immigration costing the state billions. No one could understand what I was talking about. Well fast forward. California has the most onerous tax laws and environmental regulations. All the Defense Contractors have left and most of the general manufacturing is gone. The regulations and taxes make it impossible to start a business in California and succeed. The sales tax is now up to 10% in many counties and cities coupled with a 10% State Income Tax, puts the middle class in a 60% tax rate. The only newcomers to California is Illegal Immigrants as they now it is a Sanctuary State. Essentially California is a Welfare State and a complete mess. The day of reckoning is just a question of time. Little fixes cannot turn California around. California will bring down the rest of the USA once the bailout cycle begins. It is just a matter of time.

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    • ipadguy
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:37am

      Well said JACKERS. That pretty much sums it up.

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    • heavyduty
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:48am

      They can’t be too smart, because it’s not changing for the better.

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:11am

      Why is California’s Economy Such a Mess? Because of illegal aliens, progressive politicians who serve illegal aliens not America or a green (commie) agenda, and sanctuary cities. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa is a prime example.

      1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County are working for cash and not paying taxes.
      2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
      3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
      4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
      5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
      6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
      7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
      8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
      9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
      10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:20am

      Mil-Dot Thats not cool brother. Some of us here are very firm practioners of conservatism, fight the fight behind enemy lines. I live in one of the most conservative counties in the state. My county has more ccw’s than the rest of the state combined. We fight for freedom, for liberty, but are denied. We still continue the fight, the good fight, because we have no choice. If I could, I would get out. I think Montana or Texas would be a much better location for my Firearms business. Dont run me over because I was born on the wrong side of a border. I too yearn to be free. Wait, now I sound like an illegal.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:33am

      Illegal aliens reason is still part of the “Socialism answer.“ California is the most ”progressive state” meaning United Nations Agenda 21, which Rhinos and Democrats want for ALL America. Better learn what it is, so you can evaluate candidates properly.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:03am

      State mandated socialism and encouragement from the state that emboldens illegals and welcomes them at the same time. California is already convinced it has to give itself to La Raza. They just aren’t sure how it will be taken by the rest of the state.

      Hispanics, Mexicans, claim to be proud. But, I have to wonder about that. Is it pride that makes one man want to dominate another just on site? Is it pride that makes a man want to visually destroy appealing features (almost like Al Qaeda) in their local communities? Is it pride that makes them intimidate women and use them? Is it pride that makes them wear their pants around their knees? Is it pride that allows them to beat up older, innocent or helpless people?

      Or is it a mini-tyrant farm? an inner city ‘Che’ training camp?

      If America “IS” the hope for the future that central and south america seem to believe it is going to be by virtue of their own citizens leaving to come here, why are these people coming here with such an attitude? Why are Americans being killed by them? And then allowed to remain?

      Without at least some measure of principle, socially and individually, we will destroy ourselves.

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    • NeoFan
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 1:14pm

      What California needs is much higher taxes and much greater government regulation of private businesses. Once they have 50 million school teachers making 6 million a year each Utopia will be achieved and they will have the last laugh.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 1:50pm

      Brown just cut another program to save money! Real progress your thinking? No! This is an undercover law enforcement program using special agents to monitor drug dealing/trafficking on the streets of the heroin kind. Nixed! Gone!

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    • Farmer John
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 5:54pm

      “intelligent liberals” : Name two words that should never be used together.

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    • WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges04
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:00pm

      Wait … did that picture with the bear and a red star read “California Republic”?
      Shouldn’t it be “California Socialist”?

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    • grayling646
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:05pm

      I’m afraid that attitude is taking over the entire country, CIVDAB.

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    • VictoryRise
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:50pm

      There are two reasons California is sinking, Unions (their pensions) and illegals taking free social services while sending most of their money home.

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    • TheePolitinator
      Posted on November 13, 2011 at 10:07am

      Sorry I would like to beg to differ on your statement of “Intelligent Liberal”. Because to a liberal failure is a resume enhancement.

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    • nocalifornia
      Posted on November 13, 2011 at 10:23am

      It is called insanity, they keep voting democrat and get the same result, chaos, more regulation, more taxation, more spending, and more debt. The only thing they get less of is services.

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    • INOGAWD
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 12:08am

      LIBERALISM is a MENTAL DISORDER and MEXIFORNIA

      is afflicted with it BIG TIME !!!!

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 12:26am

      THE-MONK ““Why is California’s Economy Such a Mess?”
      Let’s see… the logo of California is a Bear and a Red Star… What other economy or Country has the same logo? Can you say Russia? Yep, Russia and California share the same logo and therefore share the same ideology.” Are yoou INSANE?!!!!?!!! Do you have any idea what you are saying?
      Are you at all familiar with the history of California? You know, the bear flag revolt? No? Are you at all familiar with the fact that this state had a large population of brown and black bears?

      In 1850 (when California became a state) Russsia was still IMPERIAL RUSSIA
      So, no red star representing the country or economy, and no bear (by the way, the bear was not an official representative of the later U.S.S.R.).

      ” California and Russia are one in the same now because the people in both places think alike. ” That would include myself and many more registered Libertarians and Republicans. No connection my simple generalizing baboon.
      “Can you say comrade you citizens of Californian?” I can say that you are in serious need of a vacation
      Your OWS brothers can. Both will fail like history tells us. Your ideology will never work in the long run. The definition of communism is failure.” Your collectivist, generalizing rant shows the lack rational though and you should seek help.

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  • MrHoggLegg
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:53pm

    It seems to me what everyone tends to forget is this ✡ The State of California has not run out of money ✡ There is more than enough money to continue to operate the State in the manner in which it is accustom to operate ✡ What everyone has failed to realize is this ✡ The State of California can solve it’s budgetary problem just by raising revenue the old fashion way ✡ Just raise taxes ✡ First of all ✡ Governments do not need to rely on the electorate to pass tax increases ✡ After all that has been tried in the past and when the electorate has failed to adequately fund the Government ✡ The elected officials then have to go ahead and raise the taxes without the peoples approval ✡ Now that they are at such a devastating crossroad ✡ They have no choice but to raise taxes on the electorate ✡ Oh ✡ By the way ✡ I’m not talking about the California Electorate ✡ I’m talking about the other 56 States that must provide the needed revenue to the largest economy in the USA ✡ Of course California must officially request the funds to operate their budget from Barry ✡ And the easiest way for Barry to administer the requested funds to the State is through Executive Order! ✡ Personally ✡ I feel so much better knowing that there are another 7 States to help us all save California!

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    • TurboCat
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 5:02am

      I voted for Meg Whitman here in CA last year, but Gloria Allred got in front of the press, as usual, and totally ruined that……now she’s after my guy Herman Cain, and I would LOVE to have a chance to tell old Gloria EXACTLY what I think of her……and it would NOT be ‘politically correct’ by ANY stretch of the imagination!!!

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    • Roywalling
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:00am

      Get it right!There are not 57 states.bama said he has visited 57 states,now their is just one left to visit.According to my calculator,57 + 1 equal 58.My batteries could be week,but I think the math is correct.

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    • db321
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:38am

      Attention All Californians – Everything is going to be fine – just stay were your at and keep voting for your Liberal Progressive Representatives. They are going to turn your State around all you have to do is keep giving them more of your hard earned money. No need for any of you to move out of the State. We really dont want you bringing your Liberal Politics to any other State.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 1:53pm

      Raise and spend, raise and spend again. I live out here for going on 30 years! Its always the same thing. There seems never to be enough money in this state according to these people. Never enough for education esp when we have the highest paid teachers in the country. Never ever enough. Tax the people. We are already taxed to death. If I kind find the door I’ll be leaving this state of chaos.

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    • schlitten15
      Posted on November 13, 2011 at 11:40am

      What are they going to do? Take 80% of taxes from the people, so they can run their Government?

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  • BO_Bill
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:47pm

    RE: Why does California’s economy suck?

    Workman’s wages in Central America are $3/day, or around 38 cents an hour. In my opinion, this can be observed to be an equilibrium wage for workers with IQs in the mid-80s working in their native environment. It is enough money to purchase rice and beans, and live in a concrete cube provided by the employer. These workers usually don’t make political waves. To some groups who currently influence American public policy, these are dream workers.

    California demonstrates the flaw in our influencer’s Logic, giving them the benefit of the doubt of having good intentions. The introduction of large numbers of low-IQ workers into a collectivist system designed by and for a high-IQ population, quickly bankrupts that system. This creates a sovereign debt problem in the short period, failure of the welfare state in the medium term, and the establishment of a new order in the longer term.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 8:53pm

      Mr Hogglegg: Until 1/2 way through I thought you were serious. Thank goodness it was just a ruse.
      Let the other 7 states help you out, agreed!
      What did they do at last election? Voted for the Liberal Jerry Brown! I knew his father. This is not the man California wants at the helm. Get rid of Pelosi, Boxer, and all the bleeding heart liberals, the unions and perhaps they can reorganize the State and make it a wonderful place once again.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:37am

      States as defined by the Constitution are “little laboratories” to find what’s best for America. California failed big-time and therefore, suffer the consequences. Bailing them out of failure will not stop their insane agenda. Only FAILURE will stop their agenda and MAKE them change their ways.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:56am

      Socialism, communism, liberalism, enviromentalism, stateism, welfareism to name a few…..

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  • crazyloon
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:46pm

    Lived here for 60 years. Only one thing killing us…… Public Employee Unions ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

    Man, I hate unions.

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    • Skrewedretiree
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 10:00pm

      No kidding! Me too. I retired from the Federal Employee sector. The unions claim to be for the working class and the retirees, yet they consistently vote for Socialist Democraps who raise the cost of living and raise taxes and take our liberties away. I retired almost 5 years ago, and my retirement pay went DOWN under the Demonazis and the cost of living went WAY UP! I wrote my Democrap Congressman and Demonazi Senators and complained – POLITELY- and all I got was a form message thanking me for my input. Hey, you Democrap bastards! That “INPUT” is MY MONEY!

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    • Cat
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:29am

      It’s not just the government employee unions, Carzyloon;

      When your child’s English teacher makes $120,000.00 annually, takes 6 weeks off a year and has a pension plan that kicks in when she’s fifty, then has the balls to tell you your child is having trouble understanding English with the following statement, “Casey be habin trouble wit English and need a lot a help wif it.”

      When the guy at the CAL-DMV tells you to pay an additional fee to get your vehicle title after you explain to the dope you just paid a sales tax, a county tax, a city tax, a handling fee and a dealer prep fee when you bought the car yesterday.

      When a dope named Nancy Pelosi proposes everyone who is collecting Medicare caring for their own handicapped children to fork over $30.00 every month for SEIU dues because they are now considered healthcare providers and work for the state. (It happened in Michigan last Friday)

      Californians need to start refusing to pay idiots and thieves.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:08am

      You’ve got that right, public employee unions are bankrupting a lot of states,they‘re parasitic and will drain taxpayers dry because they’re greedy lazy criminals.

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    • Vechorik
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:36am

      Unions are also pushing United Nations Agenda 21 — seeing a pattern here?
      Do you know what United Nations Agenda 21 is, so that you can recognize it in presidential candidates?

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    • Shasta
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 1:17pm

      Public employee unions are bankrupting many states, just as private unions have ruined entire cities and industries. And in almost every decision our president makes, the unions are being support or paid off. Pelosi says Boeing should either unionize completely or close it’s doors; damn the jobs. She is getting her wish…no jobs.

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  • AlmostaCowboy
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:38pm

    Why? Because the state is run by “statists” whose sole interests are getting re-elected by taking from those who work and have and giving to those who won‘t and don’t. So, we are taking our “revenue resource” and going to TN.

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  • bdandsl
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:37pm

    I‘m a lifelong Californian and feel like I am living in ’The Liberal Twilight Zone’. The easiest and biggest expense are the illegal aliens in CA. Cut off ANY AND ALL social services to every illegal and that alone will save BILLIONS for CA. But that will never happen with the nincompoops running this state.

    Pray for me and the other conseratives living in and supporting ‘The Sunshine State’.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:41pm

      stopab131.com Let’s do something about it.

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    • NDPINDNT
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:42pm

      Amen brother… I live here too and am thinking about moving out of here sometime soon. The libs aren’t going to change and the unions run the state. When anybody takes them on they squelch them and counter with scare tactics. The people are so stupid here they believe them.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:49pm

      ND, Don’t you think that our state is worth fighting for?

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    • ThankBabyJesus
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 7:18pm

      Please pray for us, we‘ve been living in expensive liberal zones and I can’t see the horizon anymore.

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    • marion
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 8:45pm

      Because the weather is so nice over here, there is also the major problem of people being on the dole in SSI, along with the cost of the illegal aliens, can’t even fathom how much that costs. Then there is, in the north, where there is timber, was watching a public forum with logging families and the cost to cut on their own property has tripled in the past five years. Used to cost around $15,000 for all the inspections and surveys for the environment, etc., now it is over $45,000 to do the exact same thing. Shutting down the aqueducts and turning the San Fernando valley, something like 17 percent of all produce grown in the USA didn‘t help and all the business leaving because the tax and spend definitely didn’t help. Yes, the land of fruits and nuts definitely needs some cleaning.

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    • Tiredof2partyropeadope
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 11:25pm

      just leave

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  • This_Individual
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:36pm

    Mind your own damn business.

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    • TurboCat
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 5:16am

      It‘s good to know I’m not the only conservative in CA. There are several of us posting here. I have several friends who agree with the sentiments posted here and they keep me sane.

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    • Shasta
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 1:18pm

      Me too Turbocat.

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  • I SPY
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:30pm

    A mexican mayor… Look at the state of mexico. Is that what you want here? Common Sense is sometimes the hardest thing to swallow with your tortilla and salsa combo.

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  • Jake Dog2
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:29pm

    Well DUH!!! It is California home of the lib. goverment. We have allowed the envirmentalist to drive out a lagreg number of businesses and other ones don’t want to billed here. The businesses that do say are being taxed high and have to deal with red tape that is costing time and money. We have give all kinds of perks to illeagals. They have allowed the unions to rule and demand retiemnts to the point that it can not be substained. I think that about covers most of it.

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    • Darla_K
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:04am

      It is the peoples fault. They keep electing politicians that come out of sewers. What do you expect? The people deserve what they get. For the people that get it, they need to leave the state and leave the problem behind. For those who are for the illegals, they need to move at least 4 of them into their homes and totally support them. That would help take some of the burden off the people.

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  • SHOESHINEBOY
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:28pm

    hahahahaha…lol.lol.lol…I needed the laugh today..thank’s blaze…whew..that was just too funny..better then any SNL skit..whew…so..communisim/socialism…ain’t it great…say..what about the 1% (Actors) shouldn’t they have to make “shared sacrifice” to help out the 99% Illegal’s who get everything for free there anyway…..just saying….good laugh today..very good laugh

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    • robert
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:36pm

      California is leading the way to economic collapse.

      And California will lead the way to Civil War II.

      Critical mass will occur in Southern Calif, and it will start out as an open armned conflict between Hispanic and black street gangs, which are in a low intensity conflict right this minute.

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on November 13, 2011 at 6:48am

      Robert…your correct. The gang problem in California is out of control. The biggest turf wars are between Mexican and Black Gangs. When a Mexican gang moves into a black community they take over. Take Compton as an example, which 20 years ago was 75% black. Now it is 75% hispanic. These race wars are going on everyday but never reported by the media. I cannot see how California can ever be saved. The productive taxpayers are a minority and shrinking by the year and the underclass and illegals are exploding. California will bring down the rest of the country.

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  • PointBreak
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:26pm

    Every single problem in this state boils down to illegals and overbearing liberal legislation. Business is leaving here in droves over taxes. The sales tax here is so high I almost exclusively shop online. I can’t remember the last thing I bought in a store other than food – when you buy online it’s an automatic 10% discount for removing CA from the process.

    As a resident I can confirm that there isn‘t a single problem in CA that isn’t perched on the backs of the illegals. It‘s a nightmare and I’m starting to notice they’re becoming openly racist against whites and blacks.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 8:48pm

      Point……
      I agree with what you say, but you forgot the radical environmentalist groups. Cal. would be in some trouble w/o the illegals, what with environmentalists banning many activities and making doing business in Cal next to impossible.
      Just look at the OHV industry for an example:
      Land closures of a gigantic magnitude have shrunk the OHV industry and all the jobs created by not only the manufacturers, but the dealers who sell the machines and the mechanics who fix them. That equals jobs lost, right?
      Now, you might think that the OHV industry is small potatoes compared to others, and lets say you’re right. If that is true, then think about the big industries like farming. I know some farm land in Cal has had the water turned off.
      How about logging?
      How about the natural resources that can‘t be ’farmed’ in Cal?
      I know from reading that there are some ridiculous regs on businesses in Cal, and they are driven by radicals in the supposed ‘environmental’ movement. These people are just zealots who have placed themselves on a pedestal, claiming a higer moral ground than others. They practice the tried and true Sol Alinsky method of deamonizing anyone who opposes them.
      Now, add a few million illegal Mexicans with no allegiance to the US, have them demand their ‘rights’, have a dwindling tax base, and walla, you have a situation. Then add the Black ‘problem’.
      Remember…Socialism always fails!
      My advice…..MOVE OUT!

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    • mcbruce
      Posted on November 13, 2011 at 3:46am

      http://youtu.be/Ta-2nGHHbcw this might explain it you all let la raza go on to long sanctuary city ex you invite them over to get yours jobs .

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  • Coonrapids
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:26pm

    Send the illegals home to Mexico that will cut crime, school overloads, cut welfare, drug use, reduce the social services and that is just a small start. BUT that will never be done, so drown in debt, allow evey drug user, social leach and thug move to Calif. Good luck

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  • searching for the Truth
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:23pm

    No, they are soo messed up because they provide welfare for ” Non- contributory citizens .”

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  • MIBUGNU2
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:18pm

    “so that Los Angeles can attract businesses and create jobs.”

    Are you kidding, the place is a Swillhole.. When the New Admin.
    builds the “FENCE” I hope it will include the state line of Mexifornia..
    Ya, and Dump The Libotard Dombos !!! will be that way till you do..

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  • Green is a Lie
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:14pm

    Perhaps the Democratic Mayor could start by cutting the LA Pretrial Release program of $17M proposed for this year. A “net county cost”. For those unfamiliar with this program, it is a taxpayer funded; release felons from jail for free program. Taxpayers fund LA County employees to sit inside the local jails and interview felony arrests to determine if they are good candidates to be released for free. Nevermind public safety. Nevermind financial collateral to ensure the felon returns to court. Nevermind that the private sector provides bail and supervison for these felons at no cost to the taxpayer. Mayor, when you start running out of money, the responsible and prudent thing all real business people do is; cut spending within. NOT GETTING A LOAN. Cut goverment programs that compete with private sector now. U.S. HR 1885 Citizens Right to Know Act.

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  • SituationalGravity
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:13pm

    …Yes, the car was a little rickety; but it got us down the road. All seemed manageable; even when the car was on fumes. When we ran out of gas; the stark difference between having gas and being on empty was monumental. We fooled ourselves to believe this free ride would last forever. We believed the creditors who gave us unlimited gas cards. Just keep driving they would say. But then the gas stations ran dry.

    We value what we had before. Even though we cannot attain it.

    The leaders are missing or dead. The necessary means of producing resources is fractured or belongs to someone else. Now we start all over again, realizing living with our means to create revenue was the most important variable.

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  • Mommy_of_3
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:11pm

    Maybe it is California’s destiny. Proving you cannot have the majority taking handouts from the few who work and it be sustainable, you cannot continue to help ILLEGAL aliens to “better” themselves without any recourse and you cannot build a strong economy off those corporations whose values only include greed and manipulation.
    But….I could be wrong….

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  • Buddyc
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:11pm

    The LA Mayor is a ignorant person. He is a sexual pervert. He is dishonest. He is incompetent.

    enufffff said.

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    • Bro Geo Too
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:15pm

      Hey – what do you mean enufffff, you’re on a roll, Buddy–let him have it!

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  • Skrewedretiree
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:09pm

    Well, it was inevitable! How prophetic is it that their flag has a bear- as in bear economy- and a Red Star? That red star does NOT mean Macy’s. Could be the Russian Soviet bear, now that I think of it….Still, we have a green flag with the picture of George Washington on it. However, the way things are here in Washington, and we ALWAYS mimic California, we might have to change it to a red flag with the picture of Karl Marx. By and large, the only answer to all the state’s problems both here and in California seems to be to go status quo with more taxes!

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  • lukerw
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:08pm

    “Bleeding Heart” Socialist/Liberals!

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  • CloudNine
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:00pm

    It‘s California for G’d sake. Does anyone really believe they’re smart enough to fix the situation?

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:10pm

      CAN YOU SAY ? Commie Leeches….Pelosi,Boxer.Fienstein,Miller, Brown etc.etc..
      If you go Libotard, this is what you can expect…wake up Mexifornia !!!!!!!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on November 11, 2011 at 5:29pm

      Great insight: They are Zombies attracted to the Pacific, alike Lemmings, but having reached California, they just cannot go any farther.

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  • Tickdog
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 4:57pm

    because it IS California.. what would you expect?

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  • thegodfather
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 4:55pm

    You really asked WHY? Didn’t you?

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  • Jim in Houston
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 4:55pm

    Stupidity is the name of the liberal game. They just don’t understand they are out of money and doing everything possible to cause the few remaining businesses to leave the sate. Liberalism is a severe mental illness!

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  • GulfPeg
    Posted on November 11, 2011 at 4:53pm

    Hey Villaraigosa it’s the I L L E G A L S draining the system!!!!

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    • Californiasodbuster
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 12:38am

      Well said all of you, now lets put it in a nutshell, now coming to a town near you, like your pristine place is off limits , i doubt that, watch the cancer grow, get back to me, after you realize you are also over run, like you don’t see it, what a joke.

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    • INOGAWD
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 12:24am

      Gawd, Don’t say Illegal, the‘ll call You a F’N Bigot !!
      They just came to work in the fields,,,,and have Babies,
      Babies and more Babies……………………..They know
      how to work the SYSTEM !!!!! Just check out an ER..

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