WikiLeaks: Americans Being Monitored by Top Secret Surveillance System ‘TrapWire’
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WikiLeaks documents reportedly reveal the existence of a secret surveillance program “more accurate than modern facial recognition technology,” which is being utilized by a clandestine organization made up of a number of former members of U.S. intelligence agencies, including the CIA and the Pentagon.
The documents, comprised of emails hacked by Anonymous, identify the program as “TrapWire,” and this could be the biggest of all previous leaks if the documents turn out to contain accurate information. WikiLeaks began releasing the emails hacked from the geopolitical intelligence company Stratfor earlier this year.
“Hacktivists” with the group Anonymous took credit for hacking Stratfor on Dec. 24, 2011 and said they had collected more than five million emails from within the organization, some of which show a collaboration between Stratfor and the TrapWire creators at Abraxas, a company based in northern Virginia that is staffed with some of the most elite members of America’s intelligence community.
As much as we’d prefer not to cite the Russian-state controlled media network RT, there are no other mainstream media outlets currently covering the issue. This how RT described TrapWire based on information found in WikiLeaks documents:
Former senior intelligence officials have created a detailed surveillance system more accurate than modern facial recognition technology — and have installed it across the US under the radar of most Americans, according to emails hacked by Anonymous.
Every few seconds, data picked up at surveillance points in major cities and landmarks across the United States are recorded digitally on the spot, then encrypted and instantaneously delivered to a fortified central database center at an undisclosed location to be aggregated with other intelligence. It’s part of a program called TrapWire and it’s the brainchild of the Abraxas, a Northern Virginia company staffed with elite from America’s intelligence community. The employee roster at Arbaxas reads like a who’s who of agents once with the Pentagon, CIA and other government entities according to their public LinkedIn profiles, and the corporation’s ties are assumed to go deeper than even documented.
The details on Abraxas and, to an even greater extent TrapWire, are scarce, however, and not without reason. For a program touted as a tool to thwart terrorism and monitor activity meant to be under wraps, its understandable that Abraxas would want the program’s public presence to be relatively limited. But thanks to last year’s hack of the Strategic Forecasting intelligence agency, or Stratfor, all of that is quickly changing.
It may sound like something right out of a spy novel, but according to the documents, TrapWire has access to all the cameras popping up on every street corner and various other technologies and they are using that data to monitor you and anyone else they think needs to be watched via facial recognition. Talk about Big Brother.
NYPD's new super computer system is a joint venture between the city and Microsoft (Source: New York Daily News/Brian Smith)
It sounds eerily similar to a program unveiled in New York City earlier this month called the “Domain Awareness System,” created out of a partnership with Microsoft.
According to the city’s statement, the DAS “aggregates and analyzes existing public safety data streams in real time, providing NYPD investigators and analysts with a comprehensive view of potential threats and criminal activity.”
In other words, the system will link the city’s roughly 3,000 CCTV cameras, license plate readers, environmental sensors and other law enforcement databases so they can “protect” American citizens. There’s no way privacy issues could arise out of such a program.
That begs the question: If New York City is being monitored by such an invasive surveillance system, is it really that far fetched that the rest of the United States may be as well?
More from RT on the TrapWire system:
According to a press release (pdf) dated June 6, 2012, TrapWire is “designed to provide a simple yet powerful means of collecting and recording suspicious activity reports.” A system of interconnected nodes spot anything considered suspect and then input it into the system to be “analyzed and compared with data entered from other areas within a network for the purpose of identifying patterns of behavior that are indicative of pre-attack planning.”
In a 2009 email included in the Anonymous leak, Stratfor Vice President for Intelligence Fred Burton is alleged to write,“TrapWire is a technology solution predicated upon behavior patterns in red zones to identify surveillance. It helps you connect the dots over time and distance.” Burton formerly served with the US Diplomatic Security Service, and Abraxas’ staff includes other security experts with experience in and out of the Armed Forces.
What is believed to be a partnering agreement included in the Stratfor files from August 13, 2009 indicates that they signed a contract with Abraxas to provide them with analysis and reports of their TrapWire system (pdf).
(H/T:: Business Insider)
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colt1860
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:49pmDon’t forget, that according to the DHS, if you’re a veteran, pro-life, support the constitution, libertarian, conservative, own guns, a tea party member, traditional American, own gold or silver, stockpile food, have land with resources, protestant Christian, are politically active or vocal, etc. you’re a domestic terrorist.
“Docments obtained by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit show then Clinton Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder authorized members of the FBI to provide explosives to Oklahoma City bombing criminals Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols immediately prior to the April, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building.
Holder had authorized the FBI to provide the explosives to McVeigh and Nichols in conjunction with a Clinton Administration undercover operation named PATCON, an acronym for “Patriot Conspiracy.” As Jesse Trentadue describes it, “PATCON was designed to infiltrate and incite… militia[s] and evangelical Christians to violence so that the Department of Justice could crush them.”
Both Waco and Ruby Ridge are now known to have been PATCON inspired, Department of Justice plots. Shortly after the Oklahoma City bombing, Holder instructed FBI agents to recover from Terry Nichols any remainder of the explosives the Bureau had provided him and McVeigh…”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2822262/posts
Report Post »Damocles
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:46pmColt1860 you rock! I always love reading your posts. Preach it my friend!
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:19pmGiven the recent revelation DHS is run by immoral militant man-hating lesbians, it can only get worse.
We imagined the network.
We built it by our will and controlled it: It served us.
The power of the evolved network and technology has a new evil master: This master may now have the ability to gain absolute global control of us all very soon.
Only 2 things stands in the way: An armed people and God’s faithful.
Crisis real or orchestrated is the catalyst needed to deceive people and disarm them.
Identity theft and fraud may be the crisis to gain acceptance of biometric ID.
Report Post »Distrust of your neighbor through political, racial, economic, and religious polarization is gaining ground: Make us feel insecure and threatened by the boogeymen they create. It must divide us before it can conquer us.
The concept of God as supreme over man is a threat to this new master’s goal and will be dealt with swiftly once the people are no longer an armed threat and divided. God‘s faithful are the greatest threat to it’s goal.
Those of no faith in God:
Immoral behavior defended as civil rights will destroy the fabric of this nation. The arrogance of man will result in destruction. Brother against brother, father against son.
Have faith in Christ and be delivered from the coming evil.
Many call the Word of God in our Bible a collection of fairy tales. The revealed truth will save some, but reinforce the hate of others: The evidence is plentiful for those that can see and unde
colt1860
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:39pmEdward Mandell House had this to say in a private meeting with Woodrow Wilson (President) [1913-1921]
“[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a National system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer not being able to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions. Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, forever to remain economic slaves through taxation, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be non the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two would figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges…”
Continued.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:49pm“…This will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor or to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we may incur and in this manner; every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America.”
“In 1921, House was influential in the founding of the powerful group, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR was founded by wealthy bankers: J. P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, Bernard Baruch, Otto Kahn, Jacob Schiff and Paul Warburg.
House also influenced the passage of the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. The bankers saw him as their “unseen guardian angel of the Federal Reserve bill.” This same group of wealthy bankers went on to create the Federal Reserve, a private organization consisting of 12 private branches around the country. The Fed has a Board of Governors, and members are appointed by the President to fourteen-year terms.”
Report Post »elfman
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:27pmUnsourced BS. There are dozens of valid reasons to eject Obama; stick to them.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:45pmSource for first post: http://www.coachisright.com/ag-eric-holder-responsible-for-168-deaths-in-1995-oklahoma-city-bombing%E2%80%A6and-more/
Source for second post: If you don’t know who Edward Mandell House is, then you get an F for homework. Get on it. BTW: “The entire taxing and monetary systems are hereby placed under the U.C.C. (Uniform Commercial Code)” — The Federal Tax Lien Act of 1966 [a.k.a Merchant Law]
Looks like those who control our money, want Obama in:
Some of Obama’s Top Contributors
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
UBS AG $532,674
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cid=N00009638
“Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are the United States government’s institutions.
They are not government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign swindlers” — Congressional Record 12595-12603 — Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency (12 years) June 10, 1932
“The regional Federal Reserve banks are not government agencies. …but are independent,
Report Post »privately owned and locally controlled corporations.” — Lewis vs. United States, 680 F. 2d 1239
9th Circuit 1982
christos
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 12:35amWe don’t know what tomorrow holds but we know who holds our tomorrows +JESUS+ no one owns anything +JESUS+ owns Everything +JESUS+ will be coming soon with +HIS HOLY angels+ .
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 1:22amScrew Wikileaks. If they get Obama’s records I will be impressed. Until then not so much
Report Post »RedDawn2012
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 8:26amColt, according to your list, I qualify 100% as a DT! I think I’m gonna start wearing Groucho glasses to disguise my face for those damned cameras.
Report Post »Bx chief x
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 4:53pmColt add me on Fb..
Report Post »Brieck Corleone eplei
jonnydoe
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 8:42pmWhy is the blaze afraid to use RT as a source? Not only are they not afraid to cover the topics that the MSM will not, they’re usually more accurate.
Report Post »Finley McKinney
Posted on August 13, 2012 at 6:20pmJesse Trentadue apparently denied this:
Report Post »http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/12/attorney-general-holder-tied-to-okc.html
soybomb315_II
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:45pmAs the Good Judge used to say….
When the people fear the government – there is tyranny
Report Post »When the government fears the people – there is liberty
V-MindMeld
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:18pmGot to hand it to ya,,,,your quotes are awesome today,, :)
Report Post »Countrygirl1362
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:19pmSadly there are now a lot of people that fear the police more than the criminal, and the US government more than terrorist.
Report Post »spenegdt
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:42pmWhen are people going go wake up!!!! Good Lords guys WAKE UP!!!!! Don’t ya know we are in end times? Big brother is here. They are watching our every move. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! I really don’t care what U think of my post!! JUST Wake UP!!
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:03pmCameras CAN be broken, wires CAN be cut.
Report Post »Sy Kosys
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:28pmAnd yet ‘Anonymous’ wont go near Columbia or Occidental’s Records Division and scare us up some sealed records…C’mon guys, “be” the hack…dont be shy now…
Report Post »ssbstspd
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:43pmI would not be suprised if anonymous was actually a CIA front group. SInce when with all this technology can a group like this run wild hacking all kinds of public and private info without being caught ?
Anonymous might be part of the whole October suprise.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:35pmIt’s not their focus. My understanding is that these are anarchists — who also happen to be lefties. They want their own non-Marxist version of utopia, but Barack’s transcripts are of little value to them.
To be honest, I’ll take any info Wikileaks or Anonymous wants to throw out there. They are our only current source of hard evidence, so I hope they survive. We can no longer count on the MSM, our intel agencies, the police or the military brass for the most part.
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:46pmAnonymous is a front group for George Soros and his Open Society movement. They are paid by him and they attack his victims, ie those that he deems need the Open Society treatment on their Gov’t. And since in 1996 he said that the US was his next “Project” to slowly decline the dollar you can bet that Anonymous will not rat on its own… Obama is a part of that project.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:02pm@SSBSTSPD
Report Post »A whole bunch of them have been caught, around the world, I might add. You can’t begin to imagine how much these (mostly) young men are hated by the govt. machines, especially by the WH Traitor. Take a look at what Barack boy did to Bradley Manning, and you’ll get an inkling of how the Commie deals with his enemies. Why do you think Manning was held in a military jail in Kuwait for two months? Barack has already openly declared him guilty, and if not for the UN rapporteur on torture, Manning would still be going through hell in Quantico, VA. Now compare that to how Hussein’s brethren fare at Club Med in Guantanamo.
kryptonite
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:21pm@1TrueOne55
Report Post »I don’t buy that. Soros uses Anonymous to attack Obama, who in turn orders the FBI to hunt these guys down and arrest them. That’s like a dog chasing his own tail.
RobbieTLHughie
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 12:25pmWhere do you guys come up with this stuff? You have no idea what a hacker really even is, and your assumptions about a group of worldwide anonymous hackers being owned by someone they detest? Really I know you guys just make this stuff up…
Report Post »walkintruth
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 9:28pmI thought Trump would put up some money to get those records. He’s got enough to bribe anyone for those records. I would pay to see the college records. Anyone with that info could live nicely for the rest of their lives. Come on bring it forth. If not for the country, do it for the money.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:27pmWe should have camera men following around law enforcement to make sure they stay in check.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:26pmHere’s what a typical American says to this now days “If you’re not doing anything wrong than who cares?” Then they go choke on Bill O‘Rielly’s pompous snide nonsense.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:35pmYes, I really hate that logic. I’m not a criminal, and I don’t want to be treated as one. They‘re making us live in a country where one can’t make any mistakes without having it ruin their entire lives. It’s ridiculous and is probably causing more crimes due to the stress of living in a f*****d up world. I mean they keep saying it’s too keep us safe, but does anyone believe the people in Washington give a crap about any of us? They want us scared an in our house watching their propaganda, that’s it.
Report Post »LIBERTARIAN T38
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:29pmNo, over 100 million Americans…wait, people I mean, are on welfare. Do you think the intoxicated, lazy, unable to work welfare masses care about this? Or taxes? C’mon, man! Obama and the European Socialists want this massive big brother state where the rich (1%) pay them protection money and the poor (99%) get really good at Xbox, drugs and alcohol, reproducing the next dependent generation and living on whatever they can get for not working and voting Democrat…
Report Post »DoomsdayProphet
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:21pmYeah its called the NDAA and Patriot Act…Who woulda thunk it? You think there isn’t more out there? Satellite spies…yadda yadda…They are watching everything…This post is read as it is posted….
Report Post »V-MindMeld
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:33pm10-4 on the post in here and elsewhere,,,a digital snap shot is being stored away as soon as we hit the post button” lol
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:41pmThat is why I post here and other places, to let them know that some of us are not afraid and will not sit down, even if told to. Got all that Abraxas?
Report Post »eagledown
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:20pmI don’t mind, as long as they are keep us safe.
But, somehow I don’t think this Minority Report / Big Brother surveillance is about.
“If the Government Fears it’s People” we get this.
“If the People Fear the Government” we get this.
This + 3,000 drones above us = Check Mate!…. “We the People”
Report Post »Deibido
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:29pmExactly which department of the Federal government do you have faith in to keep us safe? DOJ? DHS? :(
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:30pm…..“as long as they keep us safe”
To paraphrse Ben Franklin; those who sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:34pmThey don’t care about your safety. They care about theirs.
Report Post »V-MindMeld
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:41pmHey some great points you guys,,,,I really like that Ben Franklin quote,,,I’ll assume that is his,,,,but makes sense either way :)
Report Post »eagledown
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:50pmRight. I feel like I’m sure many of us, that we are living in some Sci-Fi SkyNet type nightmare scenario.
Report Post »God, what’s next. Do we all have to start tunneling underground creating our network of own resistance fighters and build Zion like in the Matrix. Where is our Neo? (sorry, nerd alert).
CherokeeSmiles
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:17pmOMG, you’ve got to be kidding? What part of “We’ve got you and your family by the b@lls and there is nothing you can do about it” don’t you understand?
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:19pmThis is what happens when we, the people, willingly hand over our freedoms to the federal government.
Report Post »“if ya aint got nothin’ to hide, then you aint got nothin’ to worry about”. That is all i ever heard out of people during the Bush years when talking about the patriot act and domestic spy programs. When you give the government an inch of your freedom they will take a mile of it.
soybomb315_II
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:16pmThis is why i cant vote for the republican candidate for the sake of voting against Obama. Got to select someone who is completely dedicated – or else we end up in the same place….
Report Post »V-MindMeld
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:31pmDedicted to what? hope and change? (with 6 trillion more in debt to boot) or dedicated to Freedom from government …… they are supposed to be there to serve us, not us serving them…. sorry just confused,,,,to say you can’t vote for the republican is saying you will vote for O” or not vote at all? k
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:38pmDedicated to the Constitution
Dedicated to reducing the size and scope of the federal government
Voting 3rd party is the only option for many of us because the republicans nominated a candidate who is too progressive
Report Post »V-MindMeld
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:47pmThank you for clarification, I’m with you on that, well stated :)
Report Post »V-MindMeld
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:53pmOne other thing though, a vote for any 3rd party at this point is a vote for obahama? Would you feel differently about voting republican if Ron Paul were to be appointed to a signifigant cabinet position in a republican WH? ok, just wondering out loud, well typing” …… out loud…k, its all good anyways
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:04pmi would say only a vote for Obama is a vote for Obama. If we use your logic, the democrats would say voting 3rd party is a vote for Romney….. So by voting 3rd party, i am voting for Obama AND Romney???
That premise makes ZERO logical sense. Romney is not good enough for me to vote for him – that is you all’s fault for nominating an extremely progressive republican (or the establishment fault).
Besides, if you dont like 3rd party – then change the election laws. Make it so that a person has to get >50% in order to win a state outright.
Chances are, Obama will get >50% in my state, so i might as well vote my conscience and at least send the republican party a message that they would get more votes by not trashing the constitutional or non-establishment candidates (Herman Cain, Bachmann, Perry, Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, Newt)
Report Post »V-MindMeld
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:17pmHey I am on your side here, Its simple, Romney is the lessor of 2 evils in my opinion, and as far as him being the republican candidate, well it is what is right now, if you decided to vote republican, than that vote counts against obama and i get your point about the flip side of your vote, but sad truth is as of now, we need your vote to beat obama, lets face it…. please help! lol
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:30pm@soybomb315_II
So where do you think we‘ll end up with people voting for someone who we know won’t win?
They‘re not going to change the election results just because you don’t like them.
Please tell us what you think will be the results of your actions. Surely you‘re not so far gone that you don’t understand the concept of results. ……On second thought, maybe you are.
Report Post »timidir
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:37pmSorry guys, but this is too serious & important of an election to “waste” your vote on a third party candidate. That thinking WILL guarantee the win to O. PLEASE PLEASE re-consider not voting for a third party candidate. They only way we‘ll get O’s sorry ass out, is to vote for Romney. Trust me I’m not a great fan of his either, but I can‘t stand O’…
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:44pm@QP
Why dont you tell me the results of nominating a progressive republican candidate whose record would indicate he is more democrat than republican…..
If you think people voting 3rd party is bad for your party – then you should seek to fix the election laws. The democrats and republicans have rigged the system to favor themselves at the expense of 3rd party. This is a situation the republicans have put themselves in
Report Post »Steverino
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:30pmSOY et al.,
This is the way I see it – We have 2 cancers we can choose between.
Pancreatic (5 yr. survival rate: 4.6%) or Breast (5 yr. survival rate: 15%)
I’ll take my chances with breast cancer, because it provides more time to have breakthroughs in the science. In other words, changes of both the electorate and election law.
Two bad choices, to be sure…Just my 2 cents.
Steve
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:40pm@Willy, You are most likely right, but you can‘t claim that a 3rd party candidate can’t win as a fact. The bottom line is a 3rd party candidate can win if enough people vote for him. People are sick of what we’re getting from both parties. I’ve seen a poll where 80% + of voters would consider voting 3rd party. Then you have the people that don’t usually vote, that could become active in the right candidate came along. It just seems that never before has the time seemed so right to give it a shot. Both parties are filled with lying crooks and tyrants.
Report Post »Victory Not Vengeance
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 1:09pmIf you’re voting for a third party candidate, you ARE wasting your vote. No third party candidate has ever carried so much as a single state, in the entire history of the Republic. Look it up.
And with the O Force out to stuff the ballot boxes, and register dead people, pets, and cartoon characters, splitting the votes against him only assures his re-election. A fractured opposition has no chance–NONE–against a ruthless powermonger with a united political machine behind him.
I’m not the biggest Romney fan either, but he is our only chance to get rid of Obama. OUR. ONLY. CHANCE. Perfect he’s not, but it’s either going to be him or Obama.
In fact, I will bet you a million dollars, right now, that the winner of the 2012 election will be either Romney or Obama. If a third party candidate pulls of the miracle, it‘ll be the easiest million bucks you’ll ever make. But if either Romney or Obama wins, I could definitely use seven figures.
You wouldn’t–and shouldn’t–take that bet. So if you wouldn’t bet a million bucks of your own money that a third party candidate can win this election, then WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU BET THE SURVIVAL OF THE COUNTRY ON IT?!!
It can’t happen. It WON’T happen. It’s either Romney, or Obama. Period.
The Left has their man; they’re united. If the Right divides the opposition vote, it’s over. Last American out, turn off the lights.
Like the man said, come back to reality, Dom. If you’re not voting for Romne
Report Post »vickigh
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:17pmV-MindMeld writes:
“Hey I am on your side here, Its simple, Romney is the lessor of 2 evils ”
Exactly and for way too many years we have bought into the lie of voting for the lessor of 2 evils. What have we gotten for our trouble?
EVIL.
NO more Vote for Ron Paul. A vote for anyone else is a vote for Obama. Doesn’t really matter if he spells it with an R.
Report Post »vickigh
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 2:24pmSeveral people have written something to the effect of:
“So where do you think we‘ll end up with people voting for someone who we know won’t win?”
Self fulfilling prophecy. In reality if all those people who foolishly vote for the lessor of 2 evils would vote for actual good, evil would fail and that someone could and would win.
So waste your vote on evil if you want. The rest of us are voting for the ONLY person who has a 25+ year history of supporting the Constitution.
Report Post »thx1138v2
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 9:30pmIt doesn’t matter who you vote for in the presidential race. There are only 270 votes that matter and those are in the electoral college and the electoral college is not bound by the popular vote. There was a president elected in the 1800′s who lost the popular vote but won the electoral college vote. Do you think the Soros/Obama machine has identified those electoral college delegates? Bet on it. Will they apply “The Chicago Way”? Bet on it.
The only elections you can affect are those in Congress and those at your state and local level.
Report Post »Victory Not Vengeance
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 10:03pmVicki, with all due respect, you’re off your trolley. Paul has no chance. None. Zero. Zip. Zilch.
I’ll say it again, and I’ll go further out on a limb with this one. A million bucks says Ron Paul doesn’t even carry a single state. It’s a safe bet for me: no third party candidate has EVER carried so much as a single state. Anderson couldn‘t do it in ’80; Perot couldn’t do it in two separate cracks at it. If Paul can’t make it out of the GOP primaries, he has no chance as a third party candidate. Now, if you’re sure he can do what no one else in history has done, and if you want to bet a million bucks that he can make history, I’ll happily take your money. If you don’t want to make that bet, you may not want to make that vote.
Ron Paul HAS. NO. CHANCE. Period. Full stop. End of discussion. No third party candidate has ever carried even a single state, in any of the 55 presidential elections in all of American history. That is a fact. And Ron Paul is not going to be the first. That is also a fact, whether you accept it or not.
But just so you’ll know, there is a word defined as “maintaining fixed false beliefs even when confronted with facts.” That word is DELUSIONAL.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:15pmWe are screwed.
Report Post »olsparkee
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:13pmIf you are concerned about this type of activity, you need to read the series by John Twelve Hawks that begins with “The Traveler”. Everything is a coordinated attack on the public by those pulling the strings of governments the world over.
We need to cleanse the infection.
Report Post »Victory Not Vengeance
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 1:59pmGood series, true, but I’ve heard the ending leaves much to be desired.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:13pmI remember getting the e-mail from Stratfor when they were hacked (I get their free newsletter).
They never mentioned TrapWire in any of the newsletters that I can recall.
Report Post »Reverend-Joe
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:59pmFirst “Carnivore”, then “Echelon”, now “Trapwire”; I heard that drones are next!
Report Post »Whyismynamealwaystaken
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:58pmwhats wrong with you people? Huh? Government loves us thats why they develop this sort of amazing technology! They protect us and sometimes we have to be punished. Put your trust in government. Do whats right and no wrong will come to you. Always be aware and careful and you will be fine. I trust obama you should too!
Report Post »resme
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:57pmAnyone Surprised? Not shocking at all to me. Let freedom ring.
It’s fun having a one party, I mean two party system…
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:14pmHi resme,
I got your last e-mail. Yes, it could be the 3rd party blocking software. Did you ever contact support?
Report Post »resme
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:34pmNot yet, I tried with IE9. I disabled adblock plus in firefox, cleared the cache, reuploaded two different pictures, still no changes. The picture is changed in my profile settings, It just doesn’t appear when posting or clicking my name to view my recent posts.
I will try emailing support in a bit.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:11pm@Hi resme,
Try this in IE9. Left click on “tools”, then “F12 developer tools”. A window will appear at the bottom of IE9. Left click on the “Cache” tab and left click once on each of the 4 “clear” selections. Do this with Firefox closed and then reboot and see what happens (go to The Blaze and see which avatar appears).
If you go to The Blaze support and get Erica, tell her The Monk says hello. : )
Report Post »V-MindMeld
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:54pmYa so who’s watching the government? apparently not the citizens, as Obahamas is still leading in the polls???……..how can this be?,,,,,,amazing how easily fooled most americans are becoming……and are so passive to what is evolving around them,,,,we are becoming a police state,,,all in the name of safety for the citizens,,,,,these will be used against us one day to enforce dramatic social changes….its coming folks… IF there is’nt a change in November..
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:43pmyea, police state….Now tell me, which political party completely pushed for Patriot Act and NDAA???
Yes the democrats are evil….But the Republicans are not exactly sunshine and lollipops
Report Post »SonsOfLibertyRiders
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:51pmMust be the Muslims fault……and the REAL enemy has always been???? ding ding ding. OURSELVES!!
Report Post »cristo52
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:49pmAnd none of this surveillance will actually stop a determined terrorist cell.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:14pmIt didn’t stop that Castillo puke from fleeing the country. No, they don‘t care about the bad guys cuz that’s them. They want our hide.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:44pmYet, they can’t monitor the southern border…….they need and want more welfare recipients and FOODSTAMPERS …….they’re so much easier to control,and their votes are already paid for…what a deal…….
Report Post »hidingplace
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 4:06pmAnd…..they cannot monitor Oakridge, TN Nuclear Facility either. http://oakridgetoday.com/2012/08/06/top-management-changes-at-wsi-after-y-12-security-breach/
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:40pmI wonder if they saw me giving them the DIGITAL MIDDLE FINGER ?
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:51pmAbsolutely, agents are on their way.
Report Post »watashbuddyfriend
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:37pmMany have bitched about WikiLeaks, but, all along, I have felt that WikiLeaks has done us a big, big favor by disclosing the activities of Big Brother.
Report Post »Lidror
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:18pm@watashbuddyfriend: Thought the same thing.
This article also certainly helps to explain why so many of my IT buddies seem so paranoid. Several of them refuse to use FaceBook and/or even keep their web-cams covered any time they are not in use….
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:08pmI agree. They are not pro-American, capitalism. That being said, their shining of lights on cockroaches has been beneficial to the cause nonetheless.
Report Post »Dougsopinion
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:47pmGo wikileaks Go! I think it is great that they are exposing what our government is doing. It doesn’t matter what party they belong to either. They should all be publicly flogged and tried for treason.
Report Post »PingPongPing
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:35pmIn the UK, they also employ the same type of surveillance system.
In china, they use human cameras to follow you around.
Its not new. Move along. Nothing to see here….
Report Post »watashbuddyfriend
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:34pmOOPS!
I was really concerned about North Korea ‘s appointment of Kim Jung Un to be the new leader of North Korea — a nuclear power!
Kim Jung Un had NO military experience whatsoever before Daddy made him a four-star general in the military. This is a snot-nose twerp who has never accomplished anything in his life that would even come close to military leadership: he hasn’t even so much as led a Boy Scout troop, coached a sports team or commanded a military platoon. So guess what — next they make him the “beloved leader” of the country. Terrific!
Oh, crap! I’m sorry. I just remembered that we did the same thing here in the USA. We took an arrogant community organizer who has never worn a uniform and made him Commander-in-Chief; a guy who has never had a real job, worked on a budget or led anything more than an ACORN demonstration, and made him the leader of this country.
I’m sorry I brought this up. Never mind.
What is wrong with us?
Report Post »woodyl1011fl
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:54pmOur community organizer president and his party are also dedicated Fascist Marxists, like Kim, Chavez and Castro. He also has a media that is actually part of his party and state propaganda apparatus.
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:32pmWe should all start wearing Obama and Piglosi masks.
Report Post »Krimson_lizzard80
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:05pmill wear them on my A$$
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:06pmLOL now that’s funny!
Report Post »I dubs on maxinewaterbug’s!
Anyone for harrietread? vannetejonez?
Ohhhh, and don’t for get the bobseytwinsindrag, hillaryandslickwillie….
nowonuno
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:10pmGood one sregn. Don’t be too alarmed…it is power by Microsoft. They’re probably watching mostly blue screens.
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