WikiLeaks Revelation: WMDs in Iraq?
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The heated debate over whether America’s war in Iraq was justified based on the evidence of potential weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) has been a point of contention between supporters and detractors of President George W. Bush since the battle began. But the recent WikiLeaks release of classified military information may be shedding new light on the subject.
As Wired reports, the WikiLeaks documents show that some of these toxic weapons have indeed been found:
In August 2004, for instance, American forces surreptitiously purchased what they believed to be containers of liquid sulfur mustard, a toxic “blister agent” used as a chemical weapon since World War I. The troops tested the liquid, and “reported two positive results for blister.” The chemical was then “triple-sealed and transported to a secure site” outside their base.
Three months later, in northern Iraq, U.S. scouts went to look in on a “chemical weapons” complex. “One of the bunkers has been tampered with,” they write. “The integrity of the seal [around the complex] appears intact, but it seems someone is interesting in trying to get into the bunkers.”
Meanwhile, the second battle of Fallujah was raging in Anbar province. In the southeastern corner of the city, American forces came across a “house with a chemical lab … substances found are similar to ones (in lesser quantities located a previous chemical lab.” The following day, there’s a call in another part of the city for explosive experts to dispose of a “chemical cache.”
In addition, the documents suggest Iran may have played a pivotal role:
But the more salient issue may be how insurgents and Islamic extremists (possibly with the help of Iran) attempted to use these lethal and exotic arms. As Spencer noted earlier, a January 2006 war log claims that “neuroparalytic” chemical weapons were smuggled in from Iran.
Will this new information quell the debate at all?
Not likely. While the weapons were found and used against American troops, Bush detractors like Andrew Sullivan of the Atlantic argue that they were “degraded left-overs from the earlier Saddam era“ and ”not part of an ongoing stockpile program.”
What do you think? Does this new information lend any more justification to the U.S. military action in Iraq?
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Comments (192)
harleyjohn45
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 3:03pmNo one seems to remember that W was not the only person who believed Sadam had WMD. I also supported going in there, but since it became a half hearted effort, It became a terrible mistake. After it was discovered that Sadam was so weak, we should have just packed up, declared victory, and left them on their own.
Report Post »OBAMAWORSHIOER
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:56pmStop tling like that. You’re ruining our plans for continious warfare to bring about choas in the USA so we Progressives can easily take over. Given the posts here, I feel we can do that by Jan, 2011.
Report Post »Jim AZ
Posted on October 25, 2010 at 5:11amIf I remember rightly, Slick Willy was heating things up over there in his last 2 yrs, and then mellowed out. If it had been Slick’s war, I’m sure we would have found lots of WMDs with media praises.
To comments on the legality of the war: International understanding allows our defense of allies (Kuwait). Our cease-fire agreement depended on Husein’s full compliance with weapon inspectors, which was not done. Sensibility and morality are different from legality. I‘m relieved that I didn’t have to make the call.
Report Post »grn724
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 3:00pmThe thing about all the nonsense reguarding WMD’s has baffled me. We know for a fact that saddam used such weapons, killing 100,000′s innocent people. We also know that because of democrats, we had to work with the U.N. which of course drug it’s feet, thus allowing the movement of most, if not all weapons to other locations, uh, Syria. Any way you slice it, we had every right and obligation to go in there and rid the world of a murderous dictator and his offspring.
Report Post »mjbeejr
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:54pmI don’t need WikiLeaks dirt bag Julian Assange to fill me in on anything most educated Americans already know. The story excerpt below by Jennifer Rosenberg highlights some of the most horrific crimes against humanity imaginable. Number three on her list deals with the slaughter of thousands of innocent Kurds.
Whether or not you agree with President George W. Bush’s decision to enter Iraq and overthrow that genocidal maniac, the fact remains that Saddam Hussein used WMD’s on his own population with astonishing regularity!
If any left wing apologist needs more reasons, then they should get educated, not like they did back in their “Sex, Drugs and Rock ‘N’ Roll” years, by radical left wing professors; so full of themselves and bull crap revisionist history, but by the historical record!
Top 5 Crimes of Saddam Hussein
by Jennifer Rosenberg
3. As early as April 1987, the Iraqis used chemical weapons to remove Kurds from their villages in northern Iraq during the Anfal campaign. It is estimated that chemical weapons were used on approximately 40 Kurdish villages, with the largest of these attacks occurring on March 16, 1988 against the Kurdish town of Halabja.
Beginning in the morning on March 16, 1988 and continuing all night, the Iraqis rained down volley after volley of bombs filled with a deadly mixture of mustard gas and nerve agents on Halabja. Immediate effects of the chemicals included blindness, vomiting, blisters, convulsions, and asphyxiation. Approximately 5,000 women, men, and children died within days of the attacks. Long-term effects included permanent blindness, cancer, and birth defects. An estimated 10,000 lived, but live daily with the disfigurement and sicknesses from the chemical weapons.
Saddam Hussein’s cousin, Ali Hassan al-Majid was directly in charge of the chemical attacks against the Kurds, earning him the epithet, “Chemical Ali.”
http://history1900s.about.com/od/saddamhussein/a/husseincrimes.htm
Report Post »OBAMAWORSHIOER
Posted on October 25, 2010 at 12:05pmBerr, given the Blazes desire for bloodshed, why NOT put a contract out on him? Oh, I forgot that you are just talk. Thank goodness because Barny Frank’s camapign was worrying about a large influx of donations for his opponent.
Report Post »sagrzmnky
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:53pmDoes anyone actually believe that if the media had this information that they would actually tell us? Of course I see it on The Blaze, it is a non biased website. Do you really think NBC,CBS, CNN, or any of the other left leaning news groups would give this info out? They have all been against the war efforts and any kind of proof that us going into Iraq was justified would make them look like the idiots they are. I have read posts in here asking why the government would keep this a secret, but they didn’t keep it a secret. Hannity has been saying that we have proof of WMD’s for years. Nobody wants to listen though. Now, if it makes Obama look like a hero, then it would be all over the news this very second. The big news media has alays been against Bush and they would never report anything that makes him look right. This proof of WMD info is on The Blaze right now. Somebody hold their breath and see how long it takes before you see it on your news channels or news papers. It won’t happen.
Report Post »OBAMAWORSHIOER
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:59pmKeep believe this Please. are We ARE experts aT MISDIRECTION. Your right about one thing. We do have the MSM in our pockets. That’s why you invaded. The misdirection worked.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:52pmcould it be that the invasion of iraq was justified regardless of WMD?
could it be that it was justified for no other reason than we needed (and still need) to be in the middle east killing religious radicals who want to kill us and aquire nukes?
could it be there is no reasoning/negotiating with theocratic tyrannies who only use these methods as a stalling tactic?
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i understand the simplicity and repercussions of these sentiments. the invasion of Iraq elevated Iran‘s power as Iraq was Iran’s only major foil in the region. this wasn’t understood in 2003. i’m still not sure this is/was the best approach. but i am sure that nuanced, fair and even-handed interations with Iran will only put us at a massive disadvantage and will result in Iran going nuclear which will be far worse than if Iraq had gone nuclear under saddam.
it’s all very complicated.
Report Post »bobandruth2416
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:14pm12 years of sanctions, playing games with inspectors, ‘the last load out’ into Syria by Russian vehicles, the 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium ore….yes, we had damn good reasons…besides saving the population from Sadam’s brutality.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:33pmBob, wow you must have great inside information. Please post it here and help the Blaze to get the notierity it should. It’s NOT our Constitutional duty to save the world from tyrants???? Except to the NeoCons who’ve invaded the original Tea Party movement. The original Tea Party founders were almost 100% noninterventionists. Ron Paul was our hero and unofficial leader.
I’m sickened by this obvious infiltration of NeoCons on the Blaze.
Skullpah
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 3:07pmYes, WE found tons of them in bunkers near the Syrian border in 2003. The problem was, most of the chemicals had been munitionized into mortar and artillery shells. A number of these shells were of U.S., Canadian and Great Britain origin, as well as some Russian and Chinese. Think about the implications if THAT bit of information was ever leaked out? Anyone?
Report Post »cotuit
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 4:27pm@Contrarianthinker; Your limited grasp of our founding doc. and current world affairs are only compounded
Report Post »by your abvious intoxication. Be aware that your are not the Blaze police, and do not necc. hold the same
opinion as all who surf here.
OBAMAWORSHIOER
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:01pmYes, keep attacking Contrarian and marginalize him/her. We Progressives must have continious war to bring choas to the USA so we can step in and save America.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:07pmSince the liberal frame of mind includes Atheism and Darwinism, they must believe that we are all decended form pond scum anyway.
Report Post »mjbeejr
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:44pmAndrew Sullivan, the Bush detractor mentioned in this article, said in a Chris Matthews’ round table discussion regarding the NPR firing of Juan Williams that as a policy: “… Fox News Channel… rewards bigotry…” among their commentators. Guess that makes Juan Williams, an author of numerous books dealing with civil rights issues, a bigot too!
The object lesson: If you don’t lick the boots of the liberal elite ruling class, in their view – you’re pond scum.
Report Post »crystalinwi
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:43pmI’m sure they had WMD, they were smuggled out, hidden, gotten rid of. Iraq had plenty of time and I think they slipped out of the country.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:07pmCrytsal, you just think?? That justifies over a $trillion spent, thousands of our brave warriors killed and maimed for life. Maybe, just maybe, Obama thinks we Patriots are dangerous domestic terrorists that needed to be rounded up. Nah, never happen in America but Obama could point to Bush’s attack on Iraq. Hey, that just might happen. (sarcasm off)
Report Post »forthepeople
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:36pmWHY ? Does no one ever mention that we gave him over 6 month to hide and get rid of them ? Even a local drug dealer told by cops they were going to bust him would get rid of the stash before they came .
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:09pmFor, so with this scenario, you MUST be stating that the CIA and other inteeligence agencies who had already infiltarted the Iraqi Govt failed on their job? Check on the released reports about the findings of mo WMD danger that WERE igtnored by the NeoCons surrounding Bush.
Report Post »Okpulot Taha
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:30pmPlan 34-Alpha, Gulf of Tonkin, Vietnam, Pentagon Papers, Wikileaks, those events and similar are needed to help keep our American military command structure truthful. These recent Wikileaks releases well exemplify our government and our military continue to effect a policy of lying to Americans.
We all know our military command personal will routinely lie to protect military secrets, and military secrets are the most fleeting of all secrets.
Since Korea, almost all military actions and wars undertaken by America are based upon lies issued by the White House and lies issued by our military.
I am not so concerned about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq as I am concerned about our government and our military telling us lies to have us in another war.
We are to fiercely defend our nation, we are never to do so based upon lies.
Okpulot Taha
Report Post »Choctaw Nation
Max jones
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:51pmThink about this: What is the biggest deception that our leaders have foisted upon us? The ties that bind our economy with the federal reserve bank, may be the the most egregious betrayal of all. This is ever so much, more important than any other subject for two reasons,…The Fed holds all our wealth, and the head of the Fed is a globalist in league with the bilderbirgers.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:13pmTaha, your concerns are very valid. In coming minths, we willk see more and more releqases of traitous acts. Light is being shined on SOROS but also NeoCons/fascists on the right. I condider the releases a very patriotic act that took real guts. Look at how he is being smeared. I expect that a contract(s) have alredy been out on his life from the dark forces in our givt, specifically the NSA and CIA.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:20pmMore interesting, is the actual intentions of the proponests of the Iraq war and the toppling of the regime there. If it was to secure oil rights, like some say, it has not born any fruit. If it was to “liberate” the Iraqis, it may have taken them out of the frying pan and into the fire. If it was to distract the foks across this country suffering trauma post 9/11, or if it was to disguise the fact that Al Queda’s power comes from the top, not the bottom, the Iraqi war was incredibly successful.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:15pmMax, why was the largest Embassy that the USA has built in Iraq? It seems to me that we plan to stay there a long time. Are you saying that the PTB behind the Iraqi invasion won’t exploit this large base of operations? If not, why not?
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:04pmI do understand the reasons used for our invasion of Iraq. I just never agreed with them. Defying UN sanctions is NEVER a justifiable reason to attack another country. The UN is a corrupt group of tyrants. It never served it’s intended purpose, and should go the way of the failed “League of Nations” which also proved we are not yet ready for a world government!
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:58pmJust another “Inconvenient Truth” for Liberals or Progressives or whatever they are calling themselves next year.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:17pmHow about Constitutionalists who are against being the policeman of the world. Let’s hope all the NeoCons are kicked out. There official policy is endless wars.
Report Post »Will NV
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:58pmMove along, nothing here.
Report Post »Liberals are idiots.
Their days are numbered.
Max jones
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:25pmI no longer trust any politician. How can there be honesty when re-election is the priority? How can morality exist in a stuation that is dominated by expediency and political correctness?
Report Post »When has anyone in power leveled with the contituency? There are facts withheld by every administration. There are skeletons in the closet. There are secrets that CANNOT be divulged, lest the people rise up in indignation. There is NO political solution. But, there is true guidence and divine power in prayer and there is salvation in Christ. Whosever will.
MR_ANDERSON
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:57pmIraq was trying to create WMD’s, Had their program been shutdown? Probably for the most part. Was the whole thing a mess? Yes. Are people now free in Iraq? Questionable. There is much that hasn’t been released about Iraq. What if the government found WMD, and found that much of it had been removed from the country? Do you think they would want to announce that they know for sure that WMD’s have been moved, and they now have now idea where they are, and that they could be used anywhere in the world at terrorist’s hands? Even in the face of proving themselves right, I think something are just left quiet, and that is probably what the Bush administration did.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:38pmAnderson, thank you for your very valid questions and insights. Please recognize we have been invaxded by NeoCons.
There are one of two repsonses likely. None, more false talking points or personal attacks on those of us who beleive the Constitution that America has no right or responsibiltiy to be the policeman of the world.. for nation building. Washington and the other true Patriots are turning over in their graves.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:57pmwe never doubted OUR AMERICAN PRESIDENT George W Bush, or our ALLIES intel. that’s a big empty God-forsaken sandbox and a lot of stuff was buried after the Iraq War as well as shipped easily elsewhere. God Bless ya, W. we were safe in your watch. we miss you. and we miss having an AMERICAN PRESIDENT.
Report Post »fathers_thought
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:18pmYes, Bush would have been worlds better than Obama.
Report Post »Unfortuantely both he and his father are both “New World Order” progressives.
They lead down the same path it’s just a little less steep.
Max jones
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:00pmTo FATHERSTHOUGHT….Right you are, old boy, all this political hubbub is no more than a distraction, a diversion, to keep the people from digging any deeper into the actual intentions of our esteemed elites.We have been betrayed. Sold out. See you on the other side.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:41pmBurnt, thanks the exact mantra of every NeoCon. Welcome to their club. The Blaze however, is peace loving and noninterventionist in perspective. We don’t like warmongers.
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:57pmNothing will change a Bush-hating “Bush lied” liberal. They forget that most of the world believed (including some of their most “outspoken” democrats) that the weapons/materials/intentions existed. Add this to the fact that we telegraphed our intentions to invade so far in advance that the Iraq regime had plenty of time to remove them to Syria, etc. before we got there.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:42pmChicken, this certainly is a THEORY which still has never been proven. But it’s very good NeoCon propaganda.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 6:33pmChickenlittle: Don’t worry about Contrarianthinker: He’s just off of his meds and its that time of the month. I don’t take war lightly since I was in one. But the fact remains that there is a lot desert out there in Iraq. If they didn‘t move the WMD’s to whereever. Then they certainly had time to bury them deep. We had the best information at time that was possible. We also gave Saddumy plenty of time to comply. But he thought he was a bad butt shooting his little gun on the palace patio. He wouldn‘t comply so we had to make sure that he couldn’t use them if he had them.
Report Post »OBAMAWORSHIOER
Posted on October 25, 2010 at 12:09pmHeavy, great attack. That’s for helping support our plan for continious wars so we can take over when America collapses because of the debt made to fight in iRAQ. wOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN US? THE PAY IS GREAT.
Report Post »bigbud
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:56pmIf we, as a country had allowed Sadam to continue with his adgenda. We would have had 2 , rogue
Report Post »nations with Nukes and only Israel to stand up to them. If that had happened Israel probably would not be in existance. And we might have lost a city Sanfran, or mabey Baltimore. Just sayin.
Will NV
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:59pmPlease let it be San Fran.
Report Post »ozz
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 6:36pmWish we could mail San Fran to them, hell take LA as well. Without them Ca would be a great state once again :)
Report Post »lharns
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:55pmA WMD is a WMD, is a WMD. Old, new, whatever… This was a dangerous regime that was a sworn enemy to the US and the West. The labs were found as were some weapons. The allies of Sadam’s Iraq likely have the remaining stockpile and all the media and politicians can do is use the WMD issue as a political point. What is wrong with us!
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:31pmI guess I’m not the warmonger like so many appear to be here. I t ake the lives our our military heros much higfher than that. You don’t invade a country based on what you think. War must be justified by hard intelliegnce. Besides. Iraq dodn’t attack us on 911. Citizens of Saudi Arabia did. The Bin Laden family are citizens of Saudi Arabia.
Learn your facts before seeking blood. IMO, to still support thye invasion makes you accesories to murder.
Report Post »ARTPF
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:54pmI’m far more focused on getting obama replaced with someone competent in two years. and you should be too
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:40pmWhoever is “in” next, is going to have his/her own problems dealing with the existing status quo. Obama has been trying to get the U.S. in line with the coming ‘new world order’. That‘s all he’s trying to do. All that the current administration has done, is the purpose of getting the people ready for the take-over. This world governance is inevitable and will be fascist. The groundwork in our country has been going on for some time now, some say for decades! Because the coming holocaust is capital driven, no nation will be able to stand against it. .
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:44pmwe dont need to wait till 2012 congress has the powers to remove obama and force him to give up his records you can count on that being job 1 in january. WE THE PEOPLE are demanding it. so get ready for **** to hit the fan soon.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:54pmThis is mighty interesting news, and something I’d suspected. What about the reports of the convoys of trucks that went into Syria and the seeming confirmation of weapons gone over the border. Those reports were never refuted as far as I could find. Neither were they followed after the initial reports. I’ve always considered the lack of reported action on that very suspicious.
Report Post »snowleopard3200
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:04pmCheck the Golan Heights.
Report Post »snowleopard3200
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:06pmAlso consider this, when Israel took action against a assumed Syrian Nuclear Reactor sight, maybe there was more there than we are being informed of.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:14pmSNOWLEOPARD3200: I remeber reading both of those possibilities as speculations but again, the reports just dropped off as if scrubbed from public sight.
Report Post »snowleopard3200
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:36pm@Boilitdown
Could the claims be scrubbed by the Progressives and the Left? So as to attempt justifying their own claims – I remember hearing a report of radiological materials being found soon after the invasion has commenced but nothing more was ever reported.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:03pmSNOWLEOPARD3200: If, in fact, there are those out there in the left-o-sphere deviously clever enough to perpetrate such a lowly unscrupulous thing and let WMD’s get away, I’d be hard pressed to devise a punishment equal to the crime. I am in no way a violent man, but the world has suffered greatly and that action would have exacerbated the situation.
Report Post »Americans deserve the answers to those questions which have never been resolved.
Maybe we’re getting out there in conspiracy land, but the complete story would stop this kind of spectulation.
Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:25pmBolit, more than serious. Criminal negligence by intelligence. This would be criminal negligence on their part and would border on treason. You really think that the CIA would know about this but withold that information? If yes, why?
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:27pmI can’t beleive this?????? Bush and the NeoCons werte in control at that time, not progressives. You’ll ignornace of history is appalling. God help America.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:57pmOK Contrarian we get it. The US is an evil lying entity while the Iraqi regeme would never lie and we should shut up and do, and believe what we’re told. We get it.
Report Post »You are wrong.
LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 3:32pmMary Contrary YOU’LL ignorance of SPELLING is appalling.
Report Post »patriot4ever
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:52pmImagine that…I never had a doubt
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:51pmI don’t know, maybe we should ask the Swamp Arabs or the Kurds they might have the answer.
Report Post »WISEPENNY
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:09pmActually, stomping Iraq into the dirt is fulfilling 1/2 of a prophecy. Daniel 8:20. If anyone cares to look up the scripture, they will read that the second 1/2 of the prophecy reveals that Iran is next.
Report Post »OBAMAWORSHIOER
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 10:55pmWise thanks for supporting our goal of endless warfare. When choas hits the USA, we Progressives will take control. Why do we hate Glenn? Because he‘s getting close to the truth about how we are going to t ake over the USA when it’s brought to chaos. I’ll be so glad when this happens and we can round up people here on the Blaze. And it will happen. The reason I know is that Contratian has been vilified and ignored when he asked for donations for stopping Barny Frank my boss.
Report Post »KEA
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 12:51pmThe left will never except the truth. Whether left over from previous era’s or not, they possessed them!
Report Post »snowleopard3200
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:00pmNo matter where the truth lays at, whether Bush was right or wrong, or intel was faulty, there will always be the decryers of the ‘lies, lies, lies…” parties and extremists across the board. These documents may shed more truth onto the matter, as we did know Saddam had uses many times chemical weaponry, and now it seems the extremists ties to Iran can at least partially be seen…
“But the more salient issue may be how insurgents and Islamic extremists (possibly with the help of Iran) attempted to use these lethal and exotic arms. As Spencer noted earlier, a January 2006 war log claims that “neuroparalytic” chemical weapons were smuggled in from Iran.”
Is the link clear and iron clad? I was not there so I will not claim one side or the other.
The one relevant matter in the Iraq war to me boils down to this – We should never have gone into their in the first place, yet once we did, the plan for post invasion Iraq handling could have been handled better.
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (mix art)
walkwithme1966
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:08pmYes, we know that at one time Saddam possessed them – but the question here is whether these were left overs vastly degraded or WMDs which were reported in intelligence reports.
http://maboulette.wordpress.com
Report Post »fathers_thought
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:16pm@snowleopard3200: Actually, we should have gone into Iraq. Two big reasons: 1) Al-Quaida training camps existing in the region 2) we needed a secure base of operations to maintain our interests in the area. This includes both political as well as support interests such as air-bases, fuel etc.
Report Post »We were much too forgiving on payback. The iraq oil should have been restricted for our interested until debts were paid. Unfortunately, Russia managed to move the WMD’s out to Syria.
timeisnow
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:21pmSMOKING GUN!
These are the words the Radical Left will never say to admit they had chemical Weapons and that Iraq and Iran were in cahoots makes it a double Whammy!
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:25pmSaddam had the means and urgency to move WMD out of Iraq. Perhaps these were left-over but certainly were capable of killing our troops or being smuggled into the US from the south. The fact is, they were found. Change mind-sets, I doubt it.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:28pmRight, the weapons were smuggled to syria, we all know that. I have a friend who, upon returning from Iraq, said he had no doubt that Saddam still had viable chemical weapons.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 1:57pmKea, I question whether this meets the test of WMD??? But, most here have condemned the release as “endangering our troops.” For aruments sake ONLY, lets say they are evidence of WMD. Why would the military hold this information back as it would prove that Bush’s original motives were accurate. Having been against the war from the very beginning, this Constitutionalist would stop “compalining.” BUT. the orony is that the “traitor” as many here have called him is actually a hero for truth.
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:05pmSmuggled out and our billion $ intelligence people couldn’t prove it??? If that’s the case, we need to really shake up the CIA, etc. They’ve failed us now twice: once on 911 and now here. What are the odds that the CIA also covered up the WMD?
Heavens we have sattalites, electronic listening devices, etc, there were no WMD there. We needed this lie to “jusify” invasion of Iraq when everyone knew that it was all Saudis involved: no Iraqies. But we would never invade SA. WHY? Their our allies even the most reprressive Islamic state in the ME. Oh, but maybe the real reason is that Bush family had large oil deals with SA princes. Nah, that wasn’t the reason. Maybe a personal grudge against Iraq??? After all , Saddamm placed a contract on Bush Srs head> Nah such personal vengence couldn’t be in the cards. Just craqzzies would think that
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Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:18pmWalk, you have absolute 100% proof that there were WMD,s? If you do, that would be a major scope for the Blaze. Hpw about positing your proof and helping the Constitutional cause. I’m waiting anxiously.
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Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:20pmFather, you have 100% documented proof that Russia moved the WMDs to Syria? Please post them. That would be an act of war on Russia’s part. Now we need to attack Russia in revenge. Is that correct? I expect that we have many NeoCons here so probably the answer is YES.
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Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:22pmUntamable, if your friend had eveidence of this and didn’t report it to the intelligence agencies, I would call that cr4iminal negligence. Wouldn’t you say that?
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:31pmYeah, like, they were TOTALLY never gonna even like, USE any of that stuff ever again. Saddam was just waiting for someone to offer a safe way to discard the ‘leftovers’. GIMME A BREAK! I am beginning to think that if we were going to do it we should have done it right. What does that mean? Swoop down on Iraq/IRAN with the fury of a people who have had an UNholy war declared on them and take out the evil-doers AND their STATE SPONSORS without looking back. I think half hearted measures, uncertain intelligence, and the over emphesis on compromise and getting along crippled us. I’m not for isolationism, just the realization that we are NOT in a global government for a very good reason. Sometimes we need to do things that (more often than not) NOBODY else is going to like no matter how long we talk about it. Bottom line, we need to work smarter not harder. This is NOT your grand-daddie’s war. Intelligence and strategy more than force is the key. Maybe people in charge who have AMERICA’S best interests at heart too. You know, for all the horrible secret things the conspiricy theorists tell us this government and the CIA can suposedly do, you’d think they would be doing a better job at it!
Report Post »Contrarianthinker
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 2:45pmHow many of you warmongers agree with total annialtion like has just been proposed? Hey, I’ve heard this same type of talk from other NeoCons. Wonder what jeus, the Prince of Peace woyld think about these posts?
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 3:13pmThere were/are WMDs that came from Saddam Hussein’s regime. Look it up. They were moved to Syria. There are satalite pictures, eye witness acounts, maps to the exact sites where they are located. People who have nothing to gain can show you where and tell you how they got there. Why do you think that Israel is concerned about chemical weapons attacks from Syria now? It‘s because they have Saddam’s stash, thats why. I don‘t know why people choose to believe lies instead of the truth when it’s presented clearly to them.
http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-syria-wmd-conspiracy/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVnWjcbHkrA&p=A59A87D4DB0849F5&playnext=1&index=8
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/08/04/us-official-iraqis-told-me-wmds-sent-to-syria/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227810/posts
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/
http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2008/07/iraq-wmd-shipped-to-syria.html
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/satellite-photos-support-testimony-that-iraqi-wmd-went-to-syria/
………and on and on and on………………………
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 3:19pmMary Mary quite Contrary, your reading comprehension skills are so obviously lacking that you should probably have a second opinion before inflicting us with your lengthy line of nonsense. ‘INTELLIGENCE AND STRATEGY MORE THAN FORCE’ is probably a sentiment shared by many here. Perhaps you’ve been confused by flipping between windows with Blaze and Media Matters. BTW “WARMONGERS” is SOOOOOOOO 2008!
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 3:22pmOne more thing, ANNIHILATION is spelled, well, like THAT.
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 3:25pmWho is this “Jeus” you speak of?? What woyld YOU do??
Report Post »Joseph8
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 4:08pmhere goes contrarian again. CIA covers up everything from 9/11 (We blew ourselves up, not the made up terrorsists) to WMD’s
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 4:30pmThe rational for invading Iraq was WMDs. If you think the Bush administration would not have loved to find, then advertised even the slightest trace of WMDs, you must be confused. Or maybe you think liberals hid them in another country to make Bush look bad.
The invasion of Iraq was one of the biggest blunders in American history.
Report Post »watchmany2k
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 4:51pmLMAO at contrarian ‘thinker’
over on the Broder threads it’s ok to incite “guerilla actions”
over here it’s bush, neocons are warmongers and Iraq war is bad.
The frequency of his posts in all threads spurs me to call:
SOROS-FUNDED-LAPTOP-KIDS
At least one of you can’t spell
and you really shouldn’t share a BLAZE persona/login
No-Pizza for you….
I am so glad libs and criminals are fundamentally DUMB
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w4jle
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 5:25pmGoing through the various stories it appears “Spooky Dude” is paying by the number of posts today. Multi-Multi posts are being spewed without the benefit of spell checking. The Barny story was classic, a response to each and every post! I thought union workers eschewed piece work…
Report Post »flamedone1968
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 5:55pmHummm… I seem to remember reports years ago of mustard gas shells turning up in roadside bombs and in car bombs. The UN lists mustard gas as a weapon of mas destruction…. It’s been known about for some time but just now comming back around. These guys don‘t care if we find Nukes there they will just say if we can have them why can’t they? And if they use one or more on us they will probably say it serves us right… So tell me who is the real enemy again…
Report Post »paleoconservatarian
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 6:59pmA small, forgotten cache overlooked until the invasion and a chemical set in someone’s kitchen does not rise to the level of activity or scope of inventory alleged by the previous administration prior to the war, plain and simple.
The truth is the Iraq war was one of choice based on faulty and misleading intelligence and that there are numerous Bush 43 admirers who will never admit otherwise.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 9:54pmContrarianthinker, you‘re the only person on this thread that understands the facts and whose ideas aren’t so distorted by politics they can’t see the simple truth: there were no WMDs in Iraq we we invaded. No nuclear program, no manufacturing of chemical weapons, no nothing.
Report Post »capitalismrocks
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:00pmOkay so a nuclear bomb left over from the Manhattan Project is found, still viable and working and could still be used if detonated…
but hey, its old and dusty…. like the Constitution… you really can’t count it as a WMD, because its not bright, shiny and new….
The Left are truly the morons of the modern world!
Report Post »Jim AZ
Posted on October 24, 2010 at 11:44pmI have left-over bullets. Should their potential be dismissed?
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on October 25, 2010 at 1:12amWhen I was younger I called myself a Republican. Later after seeing how they abandoned many conservative principles I called myself a conservative. Then to add insult to injury they hijacked the name conservative leaving me with now calling myself a Constitutionalist. For me it has been a breath of fresh air to see many of the RINO’s kicked out of office, however for the most part the Republican office is still lost. Even if the Iraqi‘s did have WMD’s, (most of which they got from us) they were in no way a threat to the US. Constitutionally speaking, we never should have gone to Iraq. So many “conservatives” say they hold the Constitution sacred, yet know little to nothing about it and support so many things, like the Iraq war, that are completely unconstitutional. You want national security? Bring all of our troops home from every nation, put them on the borders, specifically Texas and Arizona, and stop meddling with the crazy arabs. I’m not worried about any middle eastern country messing with Israel, (which many point to as a reason for being in the middle east) because Israel has hundreds of nuclear warhead that can turn any arab nation into glass, and they all know it. Even Iran.
Report Post »QweeQwa
Posted on October 25, 2010 at 5:03amJZS you say:
“The invasion of Iraq was one of the biggest blunders in American history.”
Was?
We are still there. IS seems more appropriate.
Report Post »tommyj
Posted on October 25, 2010 at 8:20amLeaving Saddam Hussein there with 15 trillion in energy reserves and easily able to buy nukes from North Korea or Pakistan at any time would have been a very bad idea.
Report Post »Crowley
Posted on October 25, 2010 at 11:21amThey should have adhered to the constitution. I can’t argue with that fact. That being said, most of the intelligence agencies of the industrialized world agreed before the war that he had WMD’s and wanted more if he could get away with it. Saddam Hussein ignored any and all attempts by the UN to confirm that he was WMD free. You see this kind of behavior in a country that wants Israel and the US wiped off the map, and you think we should have written them letters for another decade? World peace is my number one priority, and I want “war” to be a relic of less rational times. But it would have been naive and irresponsible to sit on our hands and hope Israel doesn’t get lit up. Speaking softly and carrying a big stick doesn‘t work very well when you’ve already proved to the enemy that you will never use the stick.
Report Post »tatankachief
Posted on October 25, 2010 at 1:08pmYou’re absolutely right. The MSM should have asked the Kurds if Sodomy Insane had weapons of mass destruction. The left shrinks from the truth like a slug from salt. Previous era … what horse manure that is. All of our own ‘nukes’ are from a ‘previous’ era, but they’ll still turn sand into glass and bad guys into good guys if necessary.
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