Will a UCLA Prof Lose His Job For Sticking to Science Over Politics?
- Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:01pm by
Emily Esfahani Smith
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Dwayne Whitney owns a trucking business. He started it decades ago with only one truck. Since then, his company has grown. Now he has 18 trucks and 20 employees. But that growth may soon be stunted by the state of California.
“The State of California says my trucks are killing people,” Whitney told ReasonTV. “What do you say to that?”
The California Air Resources Board (CARB) said this: that the pollution emitted from buses and trucks contributes to 2,000 deaths a year in California.
Rubbish! says UCLA’s Dr. James Enstrom.
That number is probably closer to zero, he says. While CARB wants to render Whitney’s trucks illegal, Enstrom has research that could keep Whitney’s fleet on the road.
Enstrom was a member of UCLA’s Department of Environmental Health Sciences and he authored a 2005 study–the largest, most detailed study on the matter to date–on the relationship between diesel particulates and premature deaths. Diesel particulates are a type of pollutant emitted from trucks. The study found no relationship at all between those pollutants and premature deaths.
Was Enstrom rewarded for his groundbreaking research?
No. CARB ignored his report and UCLA told him that after 34 years at the school, he was out of a job. So much for academic freedom. “I have felt very intimidated by this process,” Enstrom says.
Adam Kissel of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) observes that ”The environmental regulation machine in powerful in California….When Dr. Enstrom went up against that machine he was retaliated against.”
Enstrom’s story is detailed in this excellent ReasonTV report:
Twelve members of California‘s state legislature caught wind of Enstrom’s story and have come to his defense as well. The twelve legislators may “promptly hold a hearing in Sacramento on this matter,“ arguing that ”the integrity of the University of California requires that faculty have the freedom to publish research findings, without fear of potential retribution from those in higher positions.”
Kissel explains over at FIRE’s website:
Twelve members of the California State Legislature have written UCLA Chancellor Gene D. Block and Provost Scott Waugh a letter decrying UCLA’s treatment of longtime Department of Environmental Health Sciences faculty member James E. Enstrom. Professor Enstrom was let go from UCLA after some 34 years under circumstances detailed by FIRE and described in a video released yesterday from Reason.tv.
Led by Chief Republican Whip Dan Logue, Assemblymember, Third District, the legislators write that they “remain deeply troubled by the University’s inability to provide credible cause for Dr. Enstrom’s dismissal, and the appearance of political interference in the University’s academic discourse.”
They also raise concerns “as to the integrity of this process,” since UCLA‘s allegation that Enstrom failed to meet his department’s “minimum requirements” appears to have been based on a document dating back to 1995 that Enstrom had never seen and which might not be at all applicable to Enstrom’s position. (I wrote about this document a couple of weeks ago.) The legislators write that “this policy of minimum requirements has neither been enforced with the Department, nor has the document been provided to Dr. Enstrom despite his specific request. This seems arbitrary and capricious and undermines the legitimacy of the Department’s reasons for dismissal.”
Kissel says, “If Dr. Enstrom loses his job because he expressed his academic freedom, then it‘s a message to other researchers that you’d better not rock the boat because you might be next.”
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Comments (226)
Harvey
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:50pmThe whole state of California is loseing its mind.They are killing babies at the faster rate than any State in the Country, people are dieing of aids at a faster rate than anywhere else in America.Of course we know the reason for that.California holds another record,the most immoral state in America.Then they want the rest of America to be like them and there are idiots everwhere pushing for just that,if that happens i will leave.
Report Post »WHITE LOTUS2x
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:49pmCalifornia, if you dont want to kill people why not save millions of lives by letting the water flow on the crops that need the water to avoid people from dieng of starvation using a small fish as an exscuse. The people know it is only an exscuse for the reason, what kind of people would do that. It says volumes about your kind. Lotus.
Report Post »ds7
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:37pmtoo many stupid people…time to thin the herd…
Report Post »1956Danelectro
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:30pmRemember also the same people who have this mindset also want to have unbelievably dangerous and ungodly polluting Mexican trucks to freely cross ourr borders and head to anywhere in the US or Canada{hated NAFTA then and still do} God Bless the American trucker, backbone of industry and the men and women who make America move. I guess we just need an 18 wheel Prius ffs.
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:29pmWell they can’t handle the truth since it does not fit their agenda. Global warming is the Earth tilting on its axis by a few degrees but tell that to Al Gore. Diesel particulates don’t float in the air like gasoline they are to heavy, so they can’t get to the lungs and if it does they are to large on a molecular level to cause a cancer. They only feel that diesel is a carcinogen because it is made from oil instead of corn-oils, peanut-oils and other more natural sources of fuel for cars and trucks. The “Diesel” engine was originally designed to run on natural oils for fuel, since the inventor was nearly killed trying to use coal dust.
Report Post »crypticmitch86
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:26pmAnd it begins…
Report Post »Redistributor
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:25pmproof read pls.
Report Post »thermonator
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:25pmStudies show, that studies show what the government want them to show, because the government will only fund studies that show what the government wants them to show. kapeesh?
Report Post »barackem
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:23pmAs I recall, the so called scientist who’s research was the main impetus for the bill that would outlaw diesel trucks in California turned out to be a fraud. We often scratch our heads when reading through human history trying to figure out how the people could have been so blind. This is how. Peer pressure and political correctness run amuck is often the downfall of civilizations. Even otherwise smart people lose their objectivity. Their desire to please their friends and to be accepted at the next cocktail party overwhelm their ability to reason.
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:19pmThis should be a sign to all trucking business in CA. Get out now. You’re next.
Report Post »They call you murderers. Murderers go to prison. Do the math.
mrpips
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:18pm“He started it decades with only one truck”
“The environmental regulation machine in powerful in California”
proof read get!
Report Post »roadhog
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:17pmCARB is a retirment home forpolicical Hacks. Its a Billion dollar a year Scam..Jerry Brown had a chance to put thesepeople in jail when he was the Attorney General of California . Most of the Hack at CARB make over $120.000 a year with Gold Plated Penisons. Arnold kissed there bums
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 8:24amHOG…
Don‘t know if your moniker refers to you’re riding a motorcycle, but if it does, you know full-well that motorcycle manufacturers have had to make a California-emissions acceptical bike for years. The CARB (Ca. Air Resourses Board) is an example of complete uselessness, especially when applied to motorcycles.
Now, there are lots of bikes in Ca., but, really, how much of the total emissions from internal-combustion engines could they possibly cause? Motorcycle manufacturers, and the general population, should be encouraged to ride. Replace a million cars in Ca. with m/c’s and you alleviate a noticeable chunk of the congestion/pollution that the radicals whine about.
Of course, the reality is that the radical environmental zealots would still stiffle motorcycle manufacturers with useless regulation. You see….you cannot appease extremists, whether they be Muslims or ‘Environmentalists’.
Report Post »waggie
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:17pmAs usual, big government in the way of real facts. In this brave new world we are punished for tellng the truth instead of what the governemnt wants us to say. I feel bad for this guy.
Report Post »sbleve
Posted on April 3, 2011 at 8:02amA most clear view.
Stalin in his view of civility created a similar religion in the USSR. Government knows best. Citizens that do not accept the gospel of Party were not allowed into the church. Only true believers practiced this new religion. They practiced ‘I am my brothers keeper’ that had holy validation by the daily collective communion – . A paltry, compared to Stalin’s machine, historical example can be found in the Gestapo methodology, tell on they neighbor if he had a Torah. What did Herra Stalin do with the non believer?
The then new Russian religion, has in most part, metamorphosed into the similar ‘faith’ bound concept here in the United States in the mid 1930′s via the Social Justice priest. The missionaries of this faith did see the inquisition of Stalin but believed that the new faith was still valid but only needed more capitol -money of industry to produce the utopia.
Report Post »nephewofdboone
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:16pmI think it’s time to take up a hunting expedition in California, with about a hundred thousand pssst off conservatives and a whole bunch of rope.
Report Post »Mr. V
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 10:49pmI think that is a really dumb idea. Leave violent rhetoric for the left.
Report Post »leftcoastslut
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 10:14amno, just keep doing your homework and becomme that wart on their a$$,just like Mr. Beck is doing (and I say this lovingly Mr. B)
Report Post »yooperjo
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:13pmThese are the progressives for you. Facts are just an inconvenience to them, something to kept from the public so that they can push their agenda.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:48pmFollow the money … right to ALGORE’s new mansion and other snake oil salesmen.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 8:07amJust stay focused on 2012. Reagan took 49 states in 1980 or ‘84. What was the one state he didn’t win?
Report Post »If….the Repubs win the Senate and WH in ‘12, the Tea Party will demand massive cuts.
Red Meat
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:13pmSounds like Dr. Enstrom needs a good attorney.
Report Post »leftcoastslut
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 10:07amhopefully not a graduate from UCLA
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:12pmSure, just like you aren’t a credible scientist if you believe in global warming/climate change/or whatever the ‘title du jour’ they give it currently.
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:20pmI meant *don’t* believe. And rather, believing isn’t even necessary – only that you publicly proclaim that you do.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:12pmWhy are there even universities, no one is taught the truth there. It’s a place for your child to continue in the brainwashing process provided by your local communist party.
Report Post »HistoryStudent
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 12:49amThat’s an excellent point.
Report Post »simple thought
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:12pmthe liberals want you to do as they say, not as it factualy is…….DAH!!!!!!!!
Report Post »it the GUMP SYNDROME,,,,,,,,,progressively stupid is as liberalism stupid dose….
all democrats have GUMP SYNDROME,,,,,, it’s in there DNA
JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:12pmAhh, Liberalism at its best.
Report Post »anutter
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:12pmScary stuff. Just keep your mouth shut and play their game? The Soviet Union reborn.
Report Post »rienheart
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:11pmLiberal liars. To be expected from these Commies.
Report Post »1956Danelectro
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:11pmHis rights clearly violated. Wheres the ACLU lawyer to beat up and sue the university? No where. I would look into the administration and the university and see if it is involved in Shore Bank in Chicago. You know, the bank where all the billions of dollars of profit from carbon trading and fake global warming hysteria led regulatory pay offs will go. Y‘ all know the cast of characters in SHore bank are don’t you? You should. As Glenn would say “Do your homework.”
Report Post »This same knd of idiocy in California cut the water off to the San Joaquin Valley and effectively killed California agriculture{except for pot}
home_of_the_brave
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:10pmThat’s ok, move your business to Arizona, we don’t have any asinine laws like this. Let California devolve into Detroit, see if all the lib’s like it then.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 10:32pmI got a citation for Non-CARB Compliant exhaust aka modified exhaust even though Magnaflow company is based in CA .
Report Post »But @ the same time CA is releasing prisoners from jail without probation or parole officers due to budget cuts .
So which one kills more people ?
a) Modified exhaust .
b) Released criminals w/o serving full sentences .
grandmaof5
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 10:52pmHe and his trucking business would be welcome in FL also. No point staying where you are not wanted or appreciated.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 1:09amhome_of_the_brave;
Ford just surpassed GM in units sold – first time, they didn’t take stimulus money, although I said many years ago I would never buy a Ford, I will definitely will check them first – and probably last.
Report Post »Theleftisda
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 2:45am@Dale
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 1:09am
home_of_the_brave;
Ford just surpassed GM in units sold – first time, they didn’t take stimulus money, although I said many years ago I would never buy a Ford, I will definitely will check them first – and probably last.
Report Post »————————————————————————————————————————————————-
Dale don’t ever get in a ford they have been killing people for a long time
(passenger vans-suv’s and trucks) when they roll over the passenger compartment collapse at an unprecedented level.
do you remember when ford blamed the tire company for the deaths on there suv’s =funny thing about that Dodge.Nissan,Toyota,and chevy had the same tires on similar vehicles and never had a problem
with rollovers.
I will say the same thing as mr.beck don’t take my word for it,look it up.
decendentof56
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 8:00amHOME….
Actually, many started moving out of Ca. many years ago.
I spoke to a lady, oh, say, 20 years ago, who had moved here to S Jersey from Colorado. She said people were moving to Colo. from Ca. back then. She further told me she could see that same Ca. mentality being exerted in Colo.
You hear Hannity/Rush/Beck say that Socialism/Communism has failed wherever it’s been emplemented in the world. But, really, you don’t have to look at world history to see it. You only have to look at the various states in the US who were the pioneers in radical social programs/environmentalism to see the disasterous results.
Report Post »felina g
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 10:11amFord DID take stimulus money on the “down low”.
Report Post »home_of_the_brave
Posted on April 3, 2011 at 3:42am@ Dale & theleftisda – I own two fords and have never had a problem with either one. I am inclined to buy future cars from ford just to show my support, but I will definitely look into the roll over thing first, thanks for the info. People say Ford got a bail out to but technically is wasn’t a bail out it was more like a loan. The difference being, GM’s a bailout because they had to change their business structure in order to receive the bailout money. Ford did not have to change personnel, or policy because they were more stable, did not receive as much money, and have already paid it back.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:10pmThis is sad but no surprising. The need for more people to stand for what is right is paramount, Now we need more to do the same with the THEORY of evolution.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:22pmHow many lives (children) were lost to abortion in California last year??
Robert-CA
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:30pmGuns kill people & now trucks kill people so what’s next ?
Report Post »Rowgue
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:38pmEvolution isn’t a theory, it’s proven fact. What is theory is that man evolved from apes or other such things. And those things are presented as theories, even in the pathetic liberal propaganda machines they call schools these days.
CatB
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:41pmCalifornia .. 2,000 .. (even if that is close .. which I doubt most likely HIGHLY inflated if over 1) ..
How many are killed each year by illegals .. gang bangers … drug addicts .ABORTION?.
You have BIGGER problems than this guys TRUCKS!
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:41pmPolitical correctness is how we ended up with the global warming scam so it is no surprise they are at it again. I hope there is a cut throat lawyer out there who will donate his services to represent this man who, obviously in the minority, has integrity. While not big on law suits, I hope he takes UCLA to the cleaners. God bless.
Report Post »ottodiedacktick
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:53pmIf you don’t live in California, you have no idea what CARB is all about.
The phony study about 2000 deaths was conducted by someone who lied about graduating from UC Davis, but received a phony degree from a “University” run by a fugitive child molester who has escaped to Israel.
This is not an April Fool’s story. You just can’t make this stuff up.
Now this professor is going to lose his job even though he is the only one with true credentials and is actually telling the truth.
Report Post »ottodiedacktick
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 10:05pmThe following web site details the controversy of the “mail-order Phd degree”:
http://www.killcarb.org/2010070308-grplet.html
Report Post »marhee9
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 10:19pmIf the liberals had their way, we’d all be living in caves. They want to shut down every energy source, yet they have no alternative. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=619wI12Ky20
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 10:27pmLet Cali go without trucks. Cars, busses, etc. Think people might starve? Just being sarcastic.
Report Post »CobiusMaximus
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 10:30pm@ Rowgue
You are tossing around the word “fact” pretty recklessly. It would serve you best to look into the definition of the word and use such a powerful word in a more focused manner.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 10:36pm@GIDEON612;
We have a 12 year old trying to dispel the ‘big bang’ THEORY. It is a beginning.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 10:37pm@Robert-CA;
moochele says food kills – and the dems say water – go figure.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 10:49pm@Rowgue;
“Evolution isn’t a theory, it’s proven fact. What is theory is that man evolved from apes or other such things. And those things are presented as theories, even in the pathetic liberal propaganda machines they call schools these days.” I agree with you if you are talking about ‘evolution’ within a species, evolution from one species to a higher species is DEFINITELY not fact!
Report Post »restorehope
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 10:56pmEvidently Big Brother didn’t like what the professor had to say, even though it was the truth. One has to stick to the ‘party line’ or be sent to Siberia. It is getting way too close to ‘1984’, people.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 10:57pmI hope the Chancellor and the Provost get THEIR @$$3$ reamed out and they lose THEIR jobs over this. This is the kind of brow-beating, from eco-terrorists, we need a light shined upon in our colleges and universities.
Report Post »I hope Dr. Enstrom takes them to the cleaners.
Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 11:00pm@GIDEON612
Report Post »You’re right, and that’s all it is, is a THEORY.
banjarmon
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 11:01pmIf California would control the border like they try to do ever thing else…that part of the country would be safe.
Report Post »TulsaYeeHaw
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 11:12pmCalifornia is a joke. I wish they would rejoin mexico.
Report Post »MiketheTrucker
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 11:41pm@W13th Imam,
EXCELLENT point!! But the libs NEVER look at their “baby”, Planned Parenthood.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 11:47pm@13th Imam
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 9:22pm
How many lives (children) were lost to abortion in California last year??
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ouch, 13th!!!
Well, how many lives were lost to
* illegal aliens driving drunk,
* drug overdose,
* traffic accidents.
* homicides,
* drownings,
* falls,
* poisoning, and/or
* suicide?
But because diesel exhaust does not fit into the Progressive agenda, and because the man has provided JOBS for 20 people through free enterprise (also against the Progressive agenda), he must be shut down and the professor must lose his job for proving the case against what the government advocates?
Outrageous!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 12:19amI’m not taking a position on this.
But I will say this: if you think car exhaust isn’t bad for human health then maybe you should try an experiment: sit behind a muffler and breath what comes out. No don’t do that! Of course don’t do that. It’ll kill you. And that stuff that come out of the mufler doesn’t magically go away. It’s in the air you breath it everyday no matter where you live.
Certainly if if sit behind a muffler and inhale the exhaust it’s not just bad, it’ll kill you in short order. Those toxins that come out of a car don’t vanish into space. They don’t disappear. Prior to EPA rules those toxins were seen daily in many major cities in the form of “smog” which thankfully, thanks to the EPA, is a word we don’t use much anymore.
In any case, the point at which those toxins accumulate to the degree where there is a measurable effect on morbity is unknown.
Why did the US ban lead additives from gasoline and paint? (1985 I believe). Because lead, which is a neurotoxin was showing up in blood of every American. Lead is a neurotoxin. You know, it kills brain cells.
I’m not taking a position on this professor or the trucking business guy. But what I am saying is that the chemicals that come out of a muffler are nasty and toxic. And they don’t go away, they don’t vanish into space. They don’t magically disappear. They stay in the air that we all breath and accumulate. And the concentration increases every day.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 1:04amjzs;
I take it you disagree with the Professor.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 1:22am@JZS
I’m not taking a position on your comments.
But I will tell you this.
If you think that liberalism is not bad for you, try this experiment. Go stand behind your typical commie liberal slob and take a deep breath. No, i’m kidding, don’t do that. Seriously, don’t do that.
Even after a conservative landslide victory, the vermin does not vanish out in to space. They do not just magically go away. They are still in our cities everywhere, chipping away at our freedoms and annoying us no matter where we live.
Why did the American people vote them out of office? (2010 I believe). Because socialism is a toxic fungus that is showing up in schools and universities everywhere.
You can see many progressives gather daily in major cities, in the form of “unions”, which is a word we hopefully won’t use much in the future.
Certainly, if you spend too much time in liberally infested area’s, you will want to kill yourself. Again, the nonsense that emanates from them is toxic, so beware.
They do not go away. They accumulate. They are always there. You vote them out, and they come back. They are nasty and toxic and they poison the atmosphere. Listening to their drivel kills brain cells.
But I’m not going to take a position
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 1:57am@Therightsofbilly
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 1:22am
I think I love you!
Report Post »Theleftisda
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 2:09amTherightsofbilly
Report Post »A+
vivrobbins
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 2:11amLiberals lie, Business dies. Bastards
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 2:45amWell said, Billy!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 2:46amTHERIGHTSOFBILLY, I agree with you on many points. I’m not sure where I would find a “typical commie liberal slob” or even any “commie liberal slob” of whatever kind.
Now having said that, I‘d be less than honest if I didn’t admit that I am commie liberal slob. I’m not sure how typical but I am a slob. And I am a liberal. Not a commie really, more a capitalist very grateful for my salary, which is more than most in this country and more than I deserve given that my knowledge so specialized. .
I shower once day, unlike many commie slobs. So in that regard I don’t offend many people. But I agree that many commie slobs don’t and are vermin-like in their personal habits and their ability to survive in inhospitable environments.
Other than that I agree with you. But I also think that the average person is going to vote Democrat in the next election. Let’s bet.
Report Post »BonnieBlueFlag
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 2:56amGee, and yet these same liberals led by Obama want to let Mexican trucks with much lower emissions standards and *cough cough* Mexican gas dominate our interstates. Californians still want goods trucked into their cities, trust me. This is an effort to further displace American truckers with Mexican truckers.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20110304/ts_csm/367464
Write your congressman and tell them this is b.s. This will lead to more deaths on the highway, more pollution, less American jobs, and about a 10,000% increase in narcotics coming across the border.
Report Post »spikebu
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 4:36amWe have to stop this! I live in Az, anyone else living here can attest to the work on Grand Ave. It’s the future route for the Mexican truckers, Grand to the 303. I’m sure their trucks have WAY LESS emissions than OURS! This is obscene. How long are we supposed to lay down and take it? NOT calling for violence. Calling for voices. Why is it Mexicans can drive diesels through our country, but Americans can’t? Why do Brazilians get to collect oil off our coasts, but not Americans? Why are American hands being tied behind their backs? BECAUSE WE ARE TAKING IT! That’s why.
Report Post »spikebu
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 5:03amBilly, That was Awesome!! BonnieBlue, we seem to be on the same page. JZS, I’m still scratching my head. You “agreed on many points” but I haven’t found one comment you agree with (unless it’s your own?). I went through all the posts previous to your second comment, you agreed with nothing but your first comment. What, EXACTLY, in Billy’s statements did you agree with? Inquiring minds want to know.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 7:03amDoes this nonsense really surprise anyone? This is the exact reason California is in the shape it is.
Environmental extremist have abused the Endangered Species Act to close the Cal. desert to off-road riding, thereby robbing individuals and families of recreational enjoyment, and many in the ATV industry of jobs. Little matter to the extremist, obviously.
Logging, and more jobs, have been crushed in Ca. and elsewhere by abuse of the ESA.
Oil exploration? Ditto!
Water for farmers? Ditto!
Development? You guessed it!
That’s what groups like the Tea Party are fighting against. Of course, the Left is portraying the TP as racist/bigots. All very predictable.
But, really, what has/is happening in Ca. has happened all over the country. That is why I predict that, at some time, you will have to pick sides. Either you are for the restoration of the US as a Constitutional Republic as originally intended, or a Communist Hell, as the special-interest lobby will
Report Post »surely have us in due time.
decendentof56
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 7:27am13th imam….
Your post is a good example of the special-interest I mentioned elsewhere in this blog.
Of course, I/we could use many other examples of where the anti-American
Socialists/Communists/Liberals have attacked our very way of life. Over-spending on useless social programs, feel-good-over-spending on schools that have failed miserably, watering-down penalties for criminals and then wasting money on programs in our prisons. You could go on and on.
California is the archetypical example of how life will be under Socialism/Communism. Why do you think the USSR failed? China only succeeds because the US signed an ill-advised trade agreement with them and, might I add have no environmental regulations to hinder them. I always say that the easiest way to take down any adversary of the US would be to move the California leftist machine to that adversary and let them run it in totality for a couple of years.
Report Post »GayDem4Beck
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 7:41amWe believe in freedom of speech and expression… and we honor different opinions, as long as they are the same as ours. We are your Liberal and Progressive Democrat Party. Now your dismissed and no longer have a job. Maybe next time you’ll learn to agree with us.
This is why I joined the Tea Party and watch Beck/Fox news. I am tired of my own party and there BS.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 7:45amTo THERIGHTSOF………
Report Post »Yes, never take a position……….of course, unless it’s a position to the left!
People like JZS (he’s an idiot, btw) will never learn, until they finally wake up one day and realize they have no freedom to do anything.
decendentof56
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 7:47amJZS…..
Report Post »Let me ask you. What will your world look like if all the changes you so desperately want are implemented? I mean, tell us what is wrong with the US, what needs to be changed. Be very detailed, please.
btulver
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 8:14amTHIS WEBSITE NEEDS SPELLCHECK OR SOMEONE TO PROOF READ THESE ARTICLES.
Report Post »NEED TO BE MORE PROFESSIONAL!
ie: He started it decades with only one truck. Should be: He started it decades ago with only one truck.
ie: The environmental machine in very powerful in California. Should be: The environmental machine is very powerful in California.
ClockKing
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 8:31amWhy are we letting trolls come in and change the debate to an evolution one? Ignore them. I used to think hard science would never be coerced by PC, or regress to a primitive state. Now I see that it can.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 8:31amBTULVER…….
Report Post »F…off! punk! Mani peeple hear ibbreviate ore are knot spacialee edukated like you, you arse-wipe!
I’ll kick your Commie ass, but not before making you lick my feet.
StonyBurk
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 9:20amSad -but not … I was an Army Medic when the APA caved to political correctness and dropped homosexuality as devo and treatable behavior from their DSM. They insisted they wanted to change no laws-back then. But the PC cancer will kill anyones job security.
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 9:24amRobert, Actually people kill people. Not one of my guns has ever been able to load itself. My steak knives however are a different story. They are bl oody all the time. Love those rare steaks.
Report Post »drbage
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 9:29amHow sad, yet typical of the enviro-fascists and the left in general! Don’t dispute the facts, but attack the messenger. The hypocrisy is flashing in your face when you compare their reaction to this and the non-reaction to the emails in East Anglia regarding the fudging or nudging of climate change data. This professor had been at the school for 34 years and yet he didn’t have tenure?
Report Post »WhatWasIThinking?
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 9:33am“We need to do the same with evolution”
Report Post »The theory of evolution has been shown to be false over and over again, The problem is that once you, the scientist, begin rocking the boat you wont be published, you wont be listened to, you will be ostracized and branded as a science heretic.
ottodiedacktick
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 10:03amThe following web-sites detail the allegations concerning Thornhill University and the person in charge of providing bogus credentials.
His name is Avrohom Mondrowitz. He is accused of child molestation and is living in Israel.
http://exposemolesters.blogspot.com/2010/01/monster-on-loose-avrohom-mondrowitz.html
http://garyfouse.blogspot.com/2010/01/california-air-resources-board-scandal.html
Report Post »Evileye
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 10:13amRobert
Report Post »One more Item
People kill People
Cemoto78
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 10:37amOnce again the progressives attack the truth, fabricate some fictional crap, and then cause a dedicated person to lose his position and job. Well done you POS progressives.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 11:05amJZS, there was one (age 20) who worked with my daughter-in-law at a large, well known appliance store. She took a bath and washed her hair once a week (didn’t use deoderant) because she didn’t want to waste water or pollute with shampoo/soap. Her boyfriend did the same. Consequently it didn’t matter if you were in front/behind/beside, they loved Obama and his policies and you smelled them long before you saw them. They were right and that was that.
Report Post »NursingNerd2012
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 11:08am13th Imam: I like your comment. We kill people using “medicine” and “women’s rights” all on our own. Even if trucks were a danger, we’re still a bigger danger to ourselves!
Report Post »gman4691
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 11:15amStrictly speaking, evolution is not a theory. The scientific method typically starts with an observation. Then, a “hypothesis” is developed in a effort to explain that which is being observed. If the hypothesis can be proven under controlled laboratory conditions, it becomes a “theory”. If that process can then be shown to occur in nature, it becomes a “scientific fact”. Scientific “facts” are subject to change as more data are collected and evaluated. To date, I haven’t seen the process of evolution proven under controlled laboratory conditions. Therefore, evolution is nothing more than a hypothesis within the context of the scientific method.
Report Post »Thinkingboy
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 11:34amRead Lee Stroebel if you haven’t (I hope I spelled his name correctly), he was a determined atheist and set about trying to disprove christianity. He met with various scientific and historical experts, and after his two year study he found that he couldn’t disprove it and became christian. He has several books, one “The Case for Creation” is a detailed account of interviews with scientists and professors that openly support Creationism. It was very interesting, and the format is set up in a case study fashion.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 11:48amMay Californication drop into the sea with all their little communists, but first I hope all the conservatives get out of that hell hole!! How could anyone live there any more??
Report Post »jimmythebullet
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 12:28pmdiesel trucks to evolution (?)-
Report Post »the diesel truck issue (BS) speaks for itself-just more of the same ol’ from our domestic enemies.i’m 53yrs old and have been riding motorcycles,of various types,for 48 of them.i’ve had to sit behind diesel trucks,and cars,at traffic lights for too many yrs,hours and/or minutes to quantify.while the smell is not pleasant,i’m still here and relatively healthy.
as for the “theory of evolution”,i have only one question-if we “evolved” from apes,why the hell are apes still roaming the earth?
“praise the Lord and pass the ammo”
jimmy “the bullet”
Psalm 144:1
BoiseBaked
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 12:52pmIf you want to see more CARB abuses, see the sham movie “Who Killed The Electric Car?” Who killed the electric car? Idiot, crooked, government bureaucrats. Surprise, surprise. There, I ruined the ending for you.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 1:08pm@ JZS……for someone who typically like to espouse the merits of science it is amazing that you so quickly abandoned that post when it doesn’t quite line up with your environmental agenda. Many things are beneficial in certain quantities and harmful in other quantities, ie radiation, vitamins, CO2…..You apparently don’t understand this given your example of breathing exhaust coming out of your car directly. You do understand that most of it is CO2 and that plants love it and go crazy for it, right? Carbon monoxide rises in the atmosphere and through chemical changes with sunlight as a catalyst produces more ozone for our protection. The Nitrogen dioxide falls to the Earth in rain where the nitrogen can actually help plants grow. Not everything is as it seems JZS.. Radiation is really really bad, right???? Then why do we use it to treat cancer? Small incremental levels of radiation have actually decreased cancer rates by 25% compared to those who haven’t had some of the same exposure. Let’s remain consistent and allow science to discover what happens rather than trying to make something fit into a preconceived environmental agenda.
Report Post »blackboxbart
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 3:10pmevolution is a theory@ rowgue. the only proven fact about this is adaptation.. two very different words and meanings.
Report Post »freedom for sale
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 3:43pmThis has nothing to do with polution, its all about control.
Report Post »G.W. Dobbs
Posted on April 2, 2011 at 7:47pmWhy has it become vogue to say, “…as well” so many times? Personally, I am sick of it, along with “Right?”
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