Will Any GOP Push of Social Issues Trigger Voter Backlash?
- Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:08pm by
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TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) — Although fixing the economy is the top priority, Republicans who won greater control of state governments in this month’s election are considering how to pursue action on a range of social issues, including abortion, gun rights and even divorce laws.
Incoming GOP governors and legislative leaders across the nation insist they intend to focus initially on fiscal measures to spur the economy, cut spending and address state budget problems.
“At this point, the economy dominates everything, and until the economy is turned around and our fiscal house put in order, there’s not going to be a lot of appetite for anything else,” said Whit Ayres, a pollster in Alexandria, Va., whose firm did research for several GOP candidates in the midterm race.
But the pressure to go further, as soon as possible, is only slightly below the surface in states where conservatives’ top social goals have been foiled for years by Democratic vetoes and legislative obstacles.
The tension is particularly visible in Kansas, where the victory by Gov.-elect Sam Brownback, a strong opponent of abortion and gay marriage, has created strong expectations among evangelical supporters.
A similar scenario is taking shape in strongly conservative Oklahoma, where a Republican governor will replace a Democrat, and to a lesser extent in Michigan, Wisconsin and several other states.
Some Republican legislators are already worried about getting bogged down in volatile issues or conflicts between wings of the party. But, if the different agendas can be harnessed, an election largely driven by voters’ economic concerns could wind up having much broader social consequences.
“I’m a little bit nervous,” said Rep. Dean Kaufert, a Republican state House member in Wisconsin, where Republicans, including incoming governor Scott Walker, campaigned on enacting tough immigration legislation and banning embryonic stem cell research. If Republicans overreach, “the danger is the citizens of the state will just say we‘ll clean house again and we’re going to keep doing it until we get it right,” he said.
But some conservatives said they won’t wait forever. “We’re not going to spend the next 18 months doing nothing but economic issues,” said Wisconsin Republican Sen. Glenn Grothman, an advocate of tougher abortion restrictions.
GOP candidates in the midterm election successfully wooed independent voters and those upset with President Barack Obama and the agenda of the Democratic-controlled Congress. But abortion opponents and socially conservative evangelical Christians are a key party constituency.
This year’s vote gave Republicans control of 29 governorships, including 11 held previously by Democrats. The GOP significantly strengthened its position in many state legislatures.
The GOP won all statewide races on the ballot in Kansas for the first time since 1964. Republicans picked up 16 seats in the state House, giving the GOP an overwhelming 92-33 advantage.
Abortion opponents now plan to make the state as close to an abortion-free zone as possible. Proposed measures would impose new regulations for clinics, restrictions on late-term procedures and increased reporting requirements for physicians. Vetoes by outgoing Democratic Gov. Mark Parkinson and his predecessors blocked such action in the past.
House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lance Kinzer, who serves on Brownback’s transition team, said action against embryonic stem cell research and to allow “covenant” marriages, which are harder to dissolve than standard marriages, are likely to be considered, too.
“There’s a lot of unfinished business out there, isn’t there?” Kinzer said.
In Oklahoma, where Republicans won all eight Democrat-held statewide offices, GOP lawmakers are planning to bring back firearms bills vetoed last year by outgoing Democratic Gov. Brad Henry. They include a bill to allow the open carrying of firearms.
A move to legalize concealed weapons is expected in Wisconsin, where the Republicans scored their most dramatic victory, seizing control of both the legislature and the governor’s office. Some Republican lawmakers hope to repeal a law that extends benefits to gay state employees and their domestic partners.
It’s not clear whether Republicans could win approval of such measures or would wind up in protracted battles not only with Democrats but among themselves.
Wisconsin Republican Party Chairman Reince Priebus insists the party can manage the competing demands. The economy “doesn’t mean we have to exclude tackling every other issue facing the voters of Wisconsin,” he said.
In Michigan, Iowa and Ohio, where Republicans are replacing Democratic governors, legislative leaders are all under pressure to back anti-abortion legislation but insist they will focus on the economy.
Brownback’s economy-first approach in Kansas has put him in the rare position of disappointing conservative allies.
Rep. Owen Donohoe, a Republican from the Kansas City-area suburb of Shawnee, sent colleagues an e-mail saying Brownback’s legislative agenda “may not be as conservative as we wish.”
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Scott Bauer in Madison, Wis.; Kathy Barks Hoffman in Lansing, Mich.; Sean Murphy, in Oklahoma City, and Ann Sanner, in Columbus, Ohio, contributed to this report.
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New-American-Saviors
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 8:02pmDear Santa:
Report Post »Can you please make the New Republicans Live up to the Promises they made in November 2010.
Not Cave In to the Socialized “Entitlement” groups. Keep Illegals-Illegal. Secure Our Borders. And possibly a Victory in Afghanistan while bringing some Technology and Industry (Especially Small Business) into the picture for real Jobs.
WE’ll handle the Streets if the Commies make good on their threats. And let the Government Govern before they start campaigning for 2012. Thank you Santa.
New-American-Saviors
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:54pmThey know what the issues are Socially and Economically with the REAL American people. They even quoted and made a promise list. Just go with those . That‘ll keep everyone busy until the 2012 election buzz starts in April ’11..and consumes evey broadcast until we’re Zombied by Politics.
Possibly Secure our Borders at Least and throw out some Illegals before you start Campaigning instead of Legislating. We’re waiting for Damage Control. Oh…and can we get a Victory in Afghanistan while you’re at it ? That would allow us to Claim Victory in the much dreaded term
Report Post »“WAR ON TERORISM” . Accomplish this and put about 10 Million people back to work. Legislate Out the NON-Contributors bank accounts on Welfare.
And DON’T cave in to the Social Justice groups. If necessary we’ll handle the (Street) business the Socialists are asking for and YOU New Republican Leaders do your part. Thank you Santa.
capitalismrocks
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:43pmI would prefer the GOP focuses on fiscal Conservatism. I don’t see Immigration as a social issue. Its a security and fiscal issue because of the impacts of illegal immigration. As for other Social issues, I think the GOP should strongly lean on Churches and Community Resources to work things out on the State and Local side.
The GOP needs to stay highly focused on Fiscal issues and not becoming distracted with the “static” of a lot of other issues which also the Liberals will purposefully heap a load of distraction onto the GOP’s lap to bog them down and take them off the focus of their fiscal goals.
Report Post »kingssman
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:41pmah republican social issues.
lil things like outlawing abortion and passing anti-sodomy laws.
things like making amendments to the constitution to make english the official language or changing the constitution making marriage be only between man and woman.
Republicans will stick to the constitution, after they change it first…….
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 8:16pmyour my friend are taking things to the extreme, as most do. english should be our national language…..how can a country unite without a common language? abortion is a lefty idea, so women who make the decision to spread their legs dont have to worry about the consequences. ( ya i know your retort will be “what about rape etc etc”. i say use your head fool. 90% of abortion is elective, and murder.
Report Post »and the constitution says nothing about marrige………….one way or the other. this is a social issue, and none of the governments business.
trolltrainer
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 8:23pmMurder is murder and should always be outlawed. I do not give a rip what the **** do, they can be as gay as the day is long. But marriage is between a man and a woman and the constitution has nothing to do with that. I think most Americans would agree that English should be the official language in America. I do not think we need to change the constitution to reflect that. If people want to speak other languages here that is fine, after all, how many Americans living in other countries never learn their language?
See, I think we both want the same thing even though we appear to disagree on all these social issues. I think we both want the federal government to bug off. I am willing to give on some of these social issues in order to make that happen.
Report Post »Ronko
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:22pmThe only social issue that the GOP needs to focus on is to protect our 2nd Amendment rights to own a gun. Any other social issue is a waste of time I mean 13+Trillion in debt, The Dollar being devalued, The North Korea Situation, The Terrorists, The Border situation, The Out of Control Spending, The Tax Cuts, The Preparation of raising the debt ceiling, those are more important issues then anything that is social.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:20pmThe Federal Government has no business in most all of these social issues anyway. Why would they want to enter the debate? A Republican Party that returns to it’s roots will not give any time to these things.
Report Post »valarie
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:18pmThe social issues are EXTREMELY important and need to be addressed. Right now, however, we have to keep our eye on that 2012 ball. Block further destruction of the country but no “loud noises” on the social stuff. Take care of that business and take care of it WELL after 2012.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 8:15pmAs has been said throughout these replies, cut the federal government and the social issues will take care of themselves. Let the states determine if they want to legalize pot, ban abortion, how to run their schools, open carry, gay marriage, and all the rest. If you do not like how your state handles the issues then move to Texas! :-p
I have to admit, I am a libertarian at heart. I love John Stossle’s take on most things. But I also understand that pure libertarianism is not realistic. We need some government protections and oversight, there does need to be some regulation, and there needs to be a basic social safety net that IS NOT ABUSED. But there are much better ways to handle these things than what we are doing now. The free market works, it has been proven. With the incentive to work and prosper this country can be great again. The prime enemy right now are the progressives and socialists. We need to defeat the entitlement/ big government nanny state mentality and get back to an honest day‘s work for an honest day’s pay and anyone can succeed mentality.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 1:26amtrolltrainer,
“The prime enemy right now are the progressives and socialists. We need to defeat the entitlement/ big government nanny state mentality and get back to an honest day‘s work for an honest day’s pay and anyone can succeed mentality.”
Good point. If we defeat the progressives/marxists many of the social issues will practically take care of themselves because morality would be more popular in general. In the meantime I don‘t see why we can’t push for giving power back to the states. Its a rather straightforward thing to do and its actually Constitutional!
PatriotShops.com
Report Post »booger71
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 11:43am“there needs to be a basic social safety net”
Always turns into a huge and expensive safety net. These nets need to go back to the churches and charities were they do the most good
Report Post »TRUTHISPOWER
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:15pmSome Tea Party Leaders are pushing to include SOCIAL ISSUES into the movement…
Report Post »Get a CLUE People…
The Tea Party sat on their couches during the Republican push for Pro Life and Pro Marriage between a Man and a Women.
They didn’t move their butts until BIG Government, States Rights, Over Taxation without Representation, Illegal Immigration and Gun Control. They only rose up when the America they love was being “transformed”.
The Left is all but asleep and you want to stir the hornet’s nest and get them out voting again??
Conclusion???
Let Social issues alone. You will lose support of the Independents and Moderates and we desperately need them! We are united on causes that WE ALL AGREE ON!
Social issues will only divide the RIGHT!
Stick w/ what got you where you are today and
DON”T MAKE THE LIBERAL MISTAKE OF GETTING SMUG WITH POWER AND OVER-REACHING
thepatriotdave
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 1:31am“DON”T MAKE THE LIBERAL MISTAKE OF GETTING SMUG WITH POWER AND OVER-REACHING”
Since when is being moral over-reaching? All they have to do is give the social issues decisions back to the states. Then our Federla government may never have to worry about social issues again, they simply do what they are supposed to, LIKE PROTECT US AND DEFEND OUR BORDERS for starters.
PatriotShops.com
Report Post »Sledgehammer
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:04pmthe answer in sort is, yes of course it will, the left is out in the open now. They must push to survive, we must not yeild one inch!
Report Post »BlueknightUSA
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:01pmOops…I now see it is an AP story…nuff said…
Report Post »BlueknightUSA
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:00pmIs this an original piece by a Blaze reporter to invoke discussion…or a spin off of the liberal media trying to cloud the issues, muddy the waters. We The People were/are very clear on what we expect from the folks we elected. This seems geared to divide and conquer us…am I wrong in this thinking?
Report Post »Smaller government, lower taxes, stop the spending and be true to the Constitution.
CaptGregg
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:55pmDon’t expect radical changes across the board. A shotgun approach could backfire. Economic issues will have top priority. If significant progress is made on that front, then the legislators can more confidently move on to the more diverse “social” issues.
Report Post »huntee
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:52pmFind the right candidate first and then talk about some of these issues, let’s not put the cart before the horse.
Report Post »Conserving Ink
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:49pmWe don’t want our lives micro-managed. We want a constitutional government that keeps us safe but stays out of our way while WE put America back together. There is no need for social issues, those are by definition issues for society, not government to sort out.
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338lapua
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:48pmRather than listening to the AP on this topic may I suggest we as Americans quietly go about the country’s business and (here’s a good one) listen to the people? AP is a nothing “news” organization with an agenda. Those who were recently elected got elected by listening to us(or pretending). The listeners got it and the pretenders will feel our wrath again.
Report Post »Steverino
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:34pmOkay. Let’s just all catch our breath, and focus on the most important thing we have in front of us. Like Tower7, I feel that the most important thing to focus on is the Constitution. Let’s start by using the Constitutional lens to view what is already wrong, and put measures in place to correct, stop, adjust or repeal that which does not stand that scrutiny.
We MUST reestablish state sovereignty, and I believe a lot of the other things will fall in line. There is much work to be done, but fixating on narrow (although critical…) issues could split us into factions, which would play directly into the progressives’ playbook.
Let’s keep our eyes on the prize. Our Unalienable Rights, our Founders, and our Constitution.
Steve
(stepping off of his soap box…)
check my blog:
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norweaver
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:43pmExactly, and by definition, that does NOT limit issues to only the economic.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:28pmYes, I think focusing on social issues is a mistake that will only serve to divide the party. I think at this immediate time Republicans should focus on the economy and decentralizing and reducing the federal government. They need to come up with a focused plan that address the entire spectrum. We need answers, not more argument. Forget democrats, forget campaigning, forget snazzy slogans and pretty tv commercials. Just come up with a viable solution that will work and campaign on that. That is all we ask for now. Once things get back on track we can worry about gay marriage, abortion, legalizing pot, and all the rest.
Report Post »Steverino
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:35pmHear, hear.
Report Post »republitarian
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:32pmI have been saying the same thing for years. Libertarians, by definition, cannot organize a picnic. We have earned a seat a the on the Republican bus. Let‘s make it the driver’s seat.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 1:22amWhy can’t we work on the economics and push for something at the federal level that gives back those social decisions to the states, at the same time? That would be a fair and easy compromise.
PatriotShops.com
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:24pmIn Wisconsin, for the first time in a long time I am very confident that the Republicans will do the right thing on a number of fronts. Unwinding the unbelievable fiscal crisis is going to be job one. But several interesting pieces of legislation will be forthcoming. We started cleaning house several years ago, and we are prepared to go much further. We have a choo choo train to kill. We have rampant voter fraud which finally will be addressed. Concealed carry is very popular here, however illegal due to a wacky dem legislature. Strange because there is a lot of dem support for it…..a real head scratcher. Don’t worry about Wisconsin, we finally are in competent hands.
Report Post »General K
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:14pmThe GOP doesn‘t have a choice and they better realize it if they don’t do the will of the tea party and that includes the closet tea partiers they WILL BE GONE. We already got a conservative challenger to our progressive union lapping Bob Casey here in Pennsylvania. He got to be quaking in his boots. He is toast in 2012! And so it will go….. take it to the bank. ALL PROGRESSIVES MUST GO !
Report Post »Diamond Girl
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:24pmSorry you weak-kneed wussie RINOs, Illegal Immigration is a HUGE ISSUE in this country on the GOP/Tea Party Movement/Conservative side of the aisle, you had damned well better get behind us or you will be gone next time around too….I am sick of this being pushed on the back-burner while our country is being destroyed by the illegals, throw in Marriage being between a man and woman, Islam/Creeping Sharia taking over incrementally while we bow and look the other way, The UN needing to be out of our lives-Starving the Beast until we can get the US out of the UN totally, Net Neutrality, Abortion, Drilling and being self-dependent here at home-national security ties in to that, Farmers having their water turned back on, less regulation/laws, the EPA needing to go, etc etc…no, we have many issues that are of the utmost of importance, we can walk and chew gum at the same time, you RINOs may need a Clue-Bat sent to you, one way or the other…but trust me, it will be if you don’t listen to We the People…we’ve had our fill.
One more…the IRS needing to be abolished for a Flat Tax that can Never be increased once it is set at a percentage and passed…Plus the Second Amendment goes without saying~
Report Post »tradexpertbuysell
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 8:07pmLet’s make the big problem smaller by letting the local or state level decide how they what to proceed. If they want safe havens fine. But then let them fail on their own. If they want to throw blanket parties for illegals and corrupt judges and local politicians. Fine too!
They can decide to enforce local laws or not. But with big government there can never be any “good” solutions. Is anybody starting to catch on here at how obvious and far reaching my original suggtion at the top of this page would be? Or is it just me.
Report Post »Nigel2
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:23pmI fear it inevitable that social platforms will work there way into the tea party. Then there is less chance of effecting change on the core issues of smaller government, lower taxes and expanded 10th amendment implementation.
Hey, here is an idea for our socially conservative friends. Work on your own households first, if this happens then society will take care of itself. You are never going to legislate morality. It just doesn’t work and it brings the very freedoms and lack of government intrusion we proclaim to strive for into question.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 1:18amThere is nothing to fear from moral tea-party members. I still say the best way to handle the social issues is to let the states decide for themselves. Period. End of story.
PatriotShops.com
Report Post »Tagudinian
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:20pmAll I know is that conservative Republicans were voted in to do a job. Marco Rubio – senator elect from Florida said it best, “This election win is not an endorsement of the Republican Party. It is a second chance.” If Republicans falter, vacillate, and behave just like corrupt politicians who are only interested in getting re-elected to office then adios muchachos. . . buenas noches and all that good stuff. It is curtains for the Republican Party. Gov Christie of NJ said it succinctly: “If the Republicans don’t deliver, they will be banished for a long, long time.” I agree. No more usual BS. It is time to do something for the country.
Report Post »norweaver
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:19pmExcuse me, but in what universe is the 2nd Amendment a SOCIAL ISSUE? It is fundamental to maintaining all other rights under the US Consitutition. It’s about values, principles, stupid!
Report Post »Without values and principles, it will not be easy for anyone who parrots an economically conservative position to be believed, or trusted, thereby most teapartiers will look for more than just economics. We will be vetting candidates, based on demonstrated performance and not just lip service to conservatism.
338lapua
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:51pmGreat point about the 2nd amendment. I think simple(and genuine) leadership in response to constituent concerns will drive voter motivation. We spoke pretty clearly, if you weren’t listening……
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:33pmIt’s the principles, stupid!
I like that. It should be a campaign slogan for 2012.
Report Post »komponist-ZAH
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:36pmIt’s the principles, stupid.
New campaign slogan 2012?
Report Post »american1st
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 9:02pmthe 2nd amendment is a constitutional issue , framing it as a social issue sounds like a gun grabber trick
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 11:14pmThe Second Amendment is no more a Social Issue than there is Seperation of Church and State in the First Amendment, or the Right to Murder Unborn children for convienence. But, IF ANY of the Bill of Rights were to be intrepreted to mean exactly what they say, the FEDERAL GOVT. would be SOL and without the power to regulate our lives to the enth degree.
Making all of it a “Social Issue” is the excuse to start limiting that Right for the good of the many, yada, yada, yada. By virtue of the Second Amendment, ALL GUN LAWS are UN-CONSTITUTIONAL, including State Laws under the 14th Amendment. Ergo, EVERYONE that ADVOCATES, ENACTS or ENFORCES ANY GUN LAW, is guilty of TREASON.
Do you have an 8X12 glossy photo of the Republicans/Tea Party getting up and advocating that bit of truth in this Socialist Police State called the U.S.A. ??? Not a Chance!!!!!
All we’re seeing is the usual crawfishing that ALL our worthless politicians are so well known for. No elected Congress Critter EVER wants to rock the boat by trying to repeal or undo what the previous group of thieves have passed and made law. NOTHING of SUBSTANCE will be done by the “NEW” group. They are already sending up trial balloons on just what amount of tap dancing will be required to keep them in office, while doing nothing, but giving lip service to the voters.
The ONLY WAY this country will ever change back into the Representative REPUBLIC it was supposed to be, will be when the whole House of Cards implodes,(Their DEAR Economy) and all of these “Public Servants” climb the proverbial 13 steps to their just rewards.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 1:15amGOTT-EM-MAUSER,
I strongly disagree. An implosion is the absolute worst thing that could happen to this country. It immediately gives the executive branch a green-light to lock the country down under an instantanious oppression of the citizenry. Suddenly a new Marxist nation is born!
Implosion is NOT the answer!!!
PatriotShops.com
Report Post »GOTT-EM-MAUSER
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 1:37pmPATRIOT,
READ my post. NOWHERE did I say that Implosion was the GOOD answer. IT IS However the ONLY way that anything of substance will ever come about in this country. We are far too far gone now, to ever return by the same road that brought us here. History teaches us that NEVER in recorded history has any Country or Group of People, been able to VOTE themselves back to, or into, FREEDOM. However the reverse of that proposition has worked very well indeed, many, many times. The Socialist/Communist/Statist pigs have been working on destroying FREEDOM in this country since the Civil War allowed our first Statist President, Mr. Lincoln to prosecute his War of Northern Aggression to subdue the Southern States, and continue to use their resources to support/fund the Yankee Empire in the North. From that point it has been a continous downhill slide. The present situation is merely the culmination of that very same concept. ALL those in Government today, want ALL of the producers to continue WORKING(And Paying Taxes) so that THEY and their constituents don’t have to.
Congress and the head shoe shine boy are presently OUTLAWING PRIVATE FOOD PRODUCTION that the Government does not CONTROL. (SB-510) This has ALL gone way too far now. WHO EXACTLY do we figure is going to stand up and STOP all this, and then REPEAL ANY of the thousands of LAWS on the books that are patently UN-CONSTITUTIONAL, not to mention absolutely IMMORAL. I am in Texas, some of us have been here since we came over from Japan and became Comanches 14,000 years ago, and the rest well before the Civil War. We all had a far better deal under the Spainish and even the Mexicans than we do now under the Federal Government of today.
You can still bring in anything and anybody across the Rio Grande with no concern whatsoever for any real impediment. The ENTIRE BORDER CONTROL EFFORT is nothing more than a carefully orchestated DOG and PONY SHOW for the benefit of the dumbasses watching their TV News. But all we hear, is how the “TERRORISTS” must be stopped by FEDERAL CONTROL of truck garden grown food, and taking nude pictures of me and my family under the threat of sexual molestation by Federal STAZI Police at the airport. And that is of course, just the very teeny tiny tip of the ICEBURG called COMMUNISM that we are being crushed by now..
My parents told me what was coming in this country starting about 50 years ago, and damned if they weren’t dead on the money. I thank God every day that they are both dead now, and won’t have to live the Nightmare we are facing, and they knew was coming. But I have a while yet to do on my life sentence, and my kids and grandkids are just getting started. And I’ll be Damned if I am going to sit on my ass quietly, while they become slaves to the shoe shine boy and his bunch. I am not in FAVOR of IMPLOSION any more than I am in favor of having skin cancer carved off my face on a regular basis, but all the same, when it’s the ONLY OPTION LEFT, you just gotta GRIN and BEAR IT. NO pun intended.
In the county I live in, we all laughingly refer to it as Chechnya Texas. Cause when the Federales do get up the Grit to come here and start trying to ENFORCING their Communist Crap, they best dress their whole Division in Russian Uniforms, to put them in the mood for the reception they’ll get. NOBODY here WANTS that to come to pass, BUT the ONE THING WE DO WANT from the Government, they just won’t have any part of. LEAVE US THE HELL “ALONE”. And NO ONE has any Faith in that ever happening, by any other means than “IMPLOSION”.
What WE DO HAVE ABSOLUTE FAITH in is my user name here, coined by the Boers in Africa, and translated to English: “GOD and RIFLE”. If you want to see just what the Government here has planned for us, read about the Boer Wars. When the English could in no way prevail in the Field, they rounded up the Boer’s families, wives and children and starved them to death to force a surrender.
So by all means continue to engage in delusional whistling past the grave yard, telling yourselves all the while, that it will all somehow get worked out by the Tea Party Voting song and dance act. But it WON’T. We just VOTED. The Tea Party/Conservative folks WON BIG. WHAT EXACTLY has anyone HEARD from them since?? CRICKETS CHIRPING SO FAR.
Report Post »misteryuck
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:18pmStick to you principles guys/gals. Reagan set the tone. Smaller constitutional government. The rest shall follow.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:28pmWith Ya!
Report Post »PeterThePainter
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:07pmJust seems to go from one pile of Cr*p to the next. Latest issue comming is the government control of all water…..since it’s such a limited resourse…meaning prices thru the roof…while the rest of the World is going to desalination plants…S. korea, Saudia, Iseral….google the amounts of ocean water turned into drinking water….not one here on-line in the USA…not even talked about.
Report Post »diesel71dan
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 12:08amamen
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:17pmHow about something Crazy like going back to the Constitution ???
Report Post »maybe leave the People alone and decriminalize possession of drugs
since Prozac and Ritalin are worse than any street drugs
maybe prosecute the Banksters ?
J.C. McGlynn
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:24pmOr maybe we AMERICAN citizens don’t have to identify ourselves all the time but illegal aliens should!!!
Report Post »tradexpertbuysell
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:47pmMake banksters smaller too! Like before the Federal Reserve was created in 1913 and all depresions were only local depressions and no certralized group had so much power, and squelched smaller honest regional banks.
The smaller the better pal. That’s all you have to remember.
Report Post »Kristal99
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 8:24pmProzac and Ritalin are not worse than street drugs. That’s a gross exaggeration. Have you seen people on crystal meth?
Report Post »Rn mom
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 10:03pmThe bank cartel has got to go!
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 1:09amRn mom,
Can you give specifics?
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Report Post »urfree2b4now
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 9:40amOr maybe the government should stop groping, xraying and humiliating people and just start asking people questions face to face.
They do this to their fellow citizens meanwhile the southern border is a welcome mat unchecked.
Ahhh…common sense….can you feel too?
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 4:26pm@KRISTAL99 How do you feel about Oxycontin ? Maybe I should have just
Report Post »said worse than Pot/Hash
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Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:12pmSocial issues like Agenda 21 , you mean like repeal of the patriot act
Report Post »and S 510, you mean Repubs should not push for our well being and FREEDOMS ???
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Posted on November 26, 2010 at 6:20pmWe need to pay attention to the Votes on everything in the Lame duck
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2630786/posts#name
ban food and forced Health care God I am becoming
comfortably numb there is so much moving so fast
tradexpertbuysell
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 7:24pmBrainstorm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of the reasons that people are so polarized over social issues is something so obvious that no one ever thought about unless they were looking right at it.
Drum roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we weren’t a powerful big government and were a small itsy bitsy government where all social issues got turned back to the grass roots level guess what?
Yes you see it too! Yep. They (social issues) would all become no big deal, everyone would have more control and freedom over their lifes and we could all go about freely minding our own business.
Sooooo. Were I a republican (?) I would push hard to give away all power to the states and focus on the judiciary to take a hands off stance if atempting to legislate from the bench or else (like say death warants or somthing subtle like that). Thus I would become a hero for transforming social issues for the positive without having to risk push back at the same time making big government smaller which is probably what most voters (republicans, blue democrats, tea party, and independents) are most concerned with anyway.
Then just suggest congress just get together only once a year to drink, gamble, and chase women. Or men in your case Barney.
Vola!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who’s with me on that one.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 8:39pmi agree the republicans pushing social issues at the federal level is a political third rail, let the states decide… concentrate on the economy,deficit, out of control spending, jobs, national security, and protecting our boarders, and let “us the people” make the call on social issues locally, i lean libertarian/conservative i will vote the republicans out if they start pushing the religious right agenda on a big government national scale,
Report Post »Shaman091101
Posted on November 26, 2010 at 10:12pmI will agree S510 must be stopped forever, Monsanto does not need to control the seeds of our fruits and vetatables. In my humble beliefe they should not control the seeds of our grains either, However, that is already a given. Please someone post a good site for research on Agenda 21.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 1:04amLet the states decide how they want to deal with abortion and gay marriage. That‘s a huge consolation coming from me because I don’t believe in either. At least I would sleep better at night knowing that some innocent lives will be saved.
Sure, everyone wants the economy to improve and our national debt brought down, but what is the sense of being the wealthiest people on the planet if we exchange morality for money?
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Report Post »republitarian
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 3:38amI’m with you! Now post in order and stop pilling on the first. Jerks.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on November 27, 2010 at 5:48amI can tell you that unless the financial system is near collapse, many independents will have nothing to do with any social agenda. These folks would ordinarily vote democrat because they dislike social conservatives but have a good sense of finance.
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