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Wind Turbines Kill 70 Golden Eagles Each Year at California’s Altamont Pass

Golden Eagle and Other Birds Under Attack by Environmentalists, WindmillsContinuing to survive primarily on federal handouts and subsidies, the wind energy movement has recently come under fire.  While it is typically seen as a “clean” and “eco-friendly” alternative to fossil fuels, as the bird carcasses accumulate, the movement is starting to see closer scrutiny.  According to Robert Bryce of the Wall Street Journal:

Over the past two decades, the federal government has prosecuted hundreds of cases against oil and gas producers and electricity producers for violating some of America’s oldest wildlife-protection laws: the Migratory Bird Treaty Act and Eagle Protection Act.

But the Obama administration—like the Bush administration before it—has never prosecuted the wind industry despite myriad examples of widespread, unpermitted bird kills by turbines. A violation of either law can result in a fine of up to $250,000 and imprisonment for two years…

Last June, the Los Angeles Times reported that about 70 golden eagles are being killed per year by the wind turbines at Altamont Pass, about 20 miles east of Oakland, Calif. A 2008 study funded by the Alameda County Community Development Agency estimated that about 2,400 raptors, including burrowing owls, American kestrels, and red-tailed hawks—as well as about 7,500 other birds, nearly all of which are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act—are being killed every year by the turbines at Altamont.

…Bats are getting whacked, too. The Pennsylvania Game Commission estimates that wind turbines killed more than 10,000 bats in the state in 2010.

USA Today reports that, on the other hand:

ExxonMobil pleaded guilty in federal court…to the deaths of 85 birds [not eagles] at its operations in several states, according to the Department of Justice. The birds were protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, and Exxon agreed to pay $600,000 in fines and fees. In July, the PacifiCorp utility of Oregon had to pay $10.5 million in fines, restitution and improvements to their equipment after 232 eagles were killed by running into power lines in Wyoming, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

That is far fewer than the estimated 10,000 birds (nearly all protected by the migratory bird law) that are being killed every year at Altamont…

Despite the deleterious effect that the windmills are having on wildlife, the wind industry is pushing to keep both its carte blanche and generous subsidies.  According to Eric Glitzenstein, a Washington D.C.-based lawyer who wrote a petition to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, “It‘s absolutely clear that there’s been a mandate from the top” not to prosecute the wind industry for violating wildlife laws.  “To me,” he said, “that’s appalling public policy.”

In 2011, wind energy was the second-largest recipient of the government’s $24 billion in energy subsidies.  According CNN Money, proponents say that, “while renewable technologies may be more expensive now, federal support provides a crucial market and…given time and economies of scale, renewable technologies will eventually be able to compete with fossil fuel.”

Watch the LA Times report on the Altamont Pass:

And NBC’s report on the dangers posed to golden eagles by wind turbines:

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  • discus02
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:54pm

    Here in Mn. the National Symbol the Bald Eagle is getting killed. Mean while we have a turkey in the White House who gobbels all our money up!

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    • TheCoffinMaker
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 9:13pm

      …and God forbid we bring back the energy efficient guillotine to finish off a death row inmate!

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    • toto
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 9:27pm

      Just another example of the incredible hypocrisy of the left and environmentalists. They are also not admitting that stopping the logging did NOT help the spotted owl recover. According to them, it’s now the barred owls fault that the spotted owl is “under represented” and in danger. So the answer now? Shoot the barred owls. These people are clueless and we all suffer the losses and tremendous financial dislocation just to please a small minority of people that THINK they know what are doing.

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    • what4
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 9:27pm

      Those damn wind turbines are so dam ugly on the landscap, not to mention murdering machines that they are! Efff you green maggots! Die young and do your grandchildren a favor!

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 9:33pm

      I would like to see the bat in the WH get whacked with a wind Turbine….

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    • SpeckChaser
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 10:01pm

      The golden eagle would be my second choice of guard animal if I only had the knowledge and ability to train one, second only to a hippopotamus. Those birds are awesome.

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    • Itsjusttim
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 10:20pm

      I told my wife an eagle will eventually carry her irritating Chihuahua away, and sure enough a couple Golden eagles were sitting on the telephone poles the next week spying the area I live.

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    • spirited
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 10:38pm

      @DISCUSO2: clever

      ;^>

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    • lukerw
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 10:50pm

      There is nothing in the Green, Renewable Energy, Agenda… against killing every Animal on Earth! As a matter of Fact, Gaia, the Earth Goddess, would be best served if all the Humans were Terminated!

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    • RabidPatriot
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 11:49pm

      So lets review, the biggest murderer of eagles is… hunters? nope; rednecks with shotguns? nope; NRA members? nope; Republicans? nope; President Obama and other green energy fascists are eagle killers. Which is strange considering millions of people die from malaria because we stopped using DDT to save the eagle (also because of green fascists – so they are people killers too)

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    • Freedom from liberals
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 11:56pm

      Where is the Enterprise Preventing Advancement (EPA) when we need them.

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    • youdidthis
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 5:34am

      the bats are getting torn up as well , is sad.

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    • MYHEROISRON
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 7:23am

      Whenever I see a wind turbine I think of liberal marxism and how incredibly stupid those people are.
      Wind turbines are rock solid proof that liberalism is a mental illness …

      Please, show me a wind turbine that has turned a profit. All they’re good for is killing wildlife …

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    • IndyGuy
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:51am

      Tear ‘em down…Jerks…

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:18am

      Gee. It would seem that the Government required “Environmental Impact Study” conducted prior to committing hundreds of $Billions of U.S. dollars to a dismally poor ‘energy’ alternative were inadequate or falsified.

      Or, maybe government provided waivers, like it’s doing for its largest political contributors for obangos StalinCare health plan, for companies it favors. Like GE, for instance.

      In any event Americans were lied to about the impact to wildlife of these devices that now liter the landscape of America. And, I’m going to wager that their energy production and MTBF were also lies.

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    • MCDAVE
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:48am

      We have now because of the new oil fields a abundance of natural gas..this resource is cheap reliable and inexpensive way to fuel power plants…Get Obozo out of the way and our energy problems are behind us..we now have so much fuel were going to be exporting it in the near future..Only a Dictator like Obama would let our country suffer when we have such an abundance of fuel right here..we can solve are problems,but first we have to reform our government..the future is looking good for us..if we fight for the right choices…..reelect obama and he will destroy us..Its everyone’s responsibility to get involved to be informed and to vote in this years elections..join the tea party and help us spread the word..anyone who has been misinformed about the tea party should understand we are really patriots, who believe in our constitution and want our country restored to a republic..the principle on which we were founded.

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    • Fantastic Four
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:52am

      Eagles and now American citizens whats the difference when you UTOPIA at the door step.

      The best mass murderes in HISTORY are always fighting for the little guy………………..

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    • dwh320
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:04am

      Green energy at work… THANKS OBAMA !!!

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    • lani59
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:32am

      Per the left, a small price to pay for an agenda and of course if a bird is too stoopid to avoid a wind turbine, they should die anyway, right?

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    • Emrys
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:36am

      So Obama‘s buddies in the green energy movement keep getting subsidies while Obama’s buddies in the animal rights movement get thrown under the bus. Or is that, into the windmill? Messy either way, I suppose.

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    • 65Mustang
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:52pm

      Never heard of him referred to as a TURKEY but it is appropriate,along with a few more adjectives.

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    • turkey13
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 3:48pm

      All those Eagles killed so one windmill can keep 5 houses supplied in electricity.The tree huggers think this will save the earth – it’s a shame they believe in global warming. We used to go to California and spend an average of $15,000.00 each year dredging for gold but they stopped us. Most of the time I lost money. One thing we saved was Mercury that we ended up with. Four years ago we collected and saved almost 4 ounces and sold it for $70.00 an ounce.Fish& Game stopped us by saying that stirring up the water messed up salmon egg production. Fish experts proved this wrong and said, “It helped feed the fish as they went thru the sediment. I will not eat salmon for this very reason – hope Fish & Game croak on that Mercury.

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    • hallkbrdz
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:00pm

      So let me get this straight….

      It’s OK to wack golden eagles with wind turbines that blades that move…

      …but is is WRONG to put up stationary oil derricks because birds of all types “might” run into them.

      In the words of Spock, Fascinating

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    • little big man
      Posted on March 12, 2012 at 7:33am

      Oh come on all you na sayers, but it’s GREEN energy. they are only birds.

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  • deano24
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:54pm

    Just put a grill guard on the turbine like they a have on regular fans. Problem solved.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 9:45pm

      And efficiency of the turbine reduced by the drag caused by the screen.

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    • seeker9
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 10:33pm

      Did some one say ugly? Regular fans don’t have 300 foot blades anyway.

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    • michael48
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 4:24pm

      just change the name…“muslim golden eagle”…he!! there’ll be wind turbines blowing up all over the place…eliminates jihadist as well…a two-for…

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  • AB5r
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:53pm

    Maybe since the bald eagle is the sign of the evil Amerika the libs won’t get so upset about this. See, everything sort of works out in the end. When your goal is the destruction of Amerika, everything just falls into place.

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  • AB5r
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:49pm

    Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act
    http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/protect/laws.html
    But does this apply to the high holprieststs of non-oil energy?

    The bald eagle will continue to be protected by the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act even though it has been delisted under the Endangered Species Act. This law, originally passed in 1940, provides for the protection of the bald eagle and the golden eagle (as amended in 1962) by prohibiting the take, possession, sale, purchase, barter, offer to sell, purchase or barter, transport, export or import, of any bald or golden eagle, alive or dead, including any part, nest, or egg, unless allowed by permit (16 U.S.C. 668(a); 50 CFR 22). “Take” includes pursue, shoot, shoot at, poison, wound, kill, capture, trap, collect, molest or disturb (16 U.S.C. 668c; 50 CFR 22.3). The 1972 amendments increased civil penalties for violating provisions of the Act to a maximum fine of $5,000 or one year imprisonment with $10,000 or not more than two years in prison for a second conviction. Felony convictions carry a maximum fine of $250,000 or two years of imprisonment. The fine doubles for an organization. Rewards are provided for information leading to arrest and conviction for violation of the Act.

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    • jharper
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 10:12pm

      But the law doesn‘t say it’s wrong to whack em’ with a turbine.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 11:49pm

      Thanks, AB5R, interesting citation. “Take” would seem to include the wind turbines — as regards killing. Can you imagine how long a U.S. Attorney would last in office if he/she filed a case against the wind farms?

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  • SMOKIN
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:48pm

    I live in Iowa, wind blows and so does Obama and the windmills. My bills do not go down..

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    • deano24
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 9:02pm

      Who told you that they were gonna lower your energy bill. Go read the other blaze article.

      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/govt-subsidized-wind-farms-told-not-to-produce-energy/

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    • DoubleThrowDown
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 9:43pm

      We have thousands of those windmills within 100 mile radius of my house that aren‘t hooked up to anything cause they can’t get permission from the suface right owner to run their trunk lines to the grid. So any thinking person would think to turn on the brake so they will not spin and cause the wear and tear of any normal machine in operation, but no they just spin away in the windy west Texas days.

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  • Apple Bite
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:41pm

    Animal Rights Activists sitting on their hands because Obama wants green energy to happen? What are the odds?

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    • Fantastic Four
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:14am

      with all the THEFT of BAIL-OUTS BUY- OUTS, TARP and STIMULUS it would have been cheaper to pay off everyones personal home and provide free solar panel system for that home.

      but why do that and give the little guy a hand up when the SCROTUS sponsers need to be taken care of first

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    • Look4DBigPicture
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:31pm

      Seems to be the case Apple. Welcome to the United States of the Banana Republic.

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  • Confederate Abolitionist
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:37pm

    By the time Obama is done finding a suitable alternative think it would be cheaper to just burn money for energy.

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    • Ishmot2
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:53pm

      24 billion; would have done more good if you were to have burnt it, then it did giving it as wind energy subsidies.

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    • One Man Progressive Wrecking Crew
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 8:45am

      Since the Fed‘s printing money all day and night long we’ll never RUN OUT of money to burn for energy!!! lol, that‘s probably their ’thought’ process on that one. ;)

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  • Conservative New Yorker
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:58pm

    Proves that these environmentalists who scream for green energy because of the impact of fossil fuel, etc on wildlife are so full of it.If they were in it for the wildlife, this would be totally unacceptable to them.

    They are only in it for the power over others. Make me sick. And those birds are beautiful and as another poster said, they provide a vital function (insect control, carcass removal, etc).

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:02pm

      Since they are saying the matter has to come from the top – from Obama – I can see him ordering these ‘green tech’ turned off; and as he crushes the oil and energy industries the nation will hasten onto the collapse he wants to have happen.

      As his cronies once said “Never waste a good emergency.”

      And to gain support of the eco-extremists, he will do next to anything.

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    • From Virginia
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:08pm

      I used to work for a windfarm in the Altamont Pass (US Windpower – now called Kenetec Corp) and the things are worthless. We had thousands of the things and they only partially provided power to Manteca. The turbines themselves cause a vortex that suck gliding birds/hawks right into them. As to them being “clean” each and every one of the has a combustion engine in them to “kick start” them. Our windsmiths only qualification to work on the turbines was to know how to tune a car.

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    • Puddle Duck
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 10:02pm

      Wind energy is extremely inefficient at producing reliable energy but superbly proficient at killing birds of all types. Sadly I have a “wind farm” near my cottage …the wild bird population since the installation of this “farm” has plummeted to the point where it’s days between sightings of anything larger than a blue jay. The strike estimates are roughly in the range of 10K+ killed per year. I think that’s a little low. The damned things can only operate within a small window (15 kph winds I think) anything above that or below that and they are taken offline. Silly stupid way to spend taxpayer money. Electircal power has to be available as an uninterupted supply in order to be useful…sporadic gernertion is more of a headache than a help.

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  • Micmac
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:53pm

    NoBama and his posse have an existential agenda, and that’s all that matters. The USA, the Constitution, birds, you, don’t matter.

    NoBama 2012

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  • kam123
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:53pm

    My hometown in Massachusetts needs to build a new water plant. The project is being held up because of a rare frosted elfin butterfly. We will have to pay for the relocation of the plants that are its primary food source. Does anyone have butterfly nets we could borrow.

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 9:47pm

      “rare frosted elfin butterfly”? I didn’t believe you. I did a web search. Now I believe you (but I don’t believe the government!)

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  • psadie
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:51pm

    As we continue to force other forms of energy, we are creating another problem with the windmills. The birds that are killed keep the insects in check so we don’t have devastation. Did the eco-fools think of that? What do we do when we have an overabundance of pestilence??? You cannot use chemical sprays according to the EPA so what do we do? Everything was planned for balance and we the inhabitants of the Earth are upsetting it all for our own doom.

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    • AmazingGrace8
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:49pm

      they think they are little gods. I am such an animal/bird lover..this just makes me sick! Look at OWS run over with rats..human caused sure but when the system gets out of wack with these idiots forcing this bull-crap & you have an administration agreeing with them…just pure nonsense. Boy, are we going to pay and pay big in more ways then one.

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    • tajloc
      Posted on March 12, 2012 at 9:09am

      Don’t forget the bats. They eat 5X their weight in one nite. But maybe the blades kill the bugs and its a tradeoff? Oh well Rom 8:28

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:47pm

    …
    Hey PETA, and other animal rights groups, where are you when you’re actually needed?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:03pm

      I am not seeing any defenders on the left here.

      Have they realized that they have no clothes?

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  • NavyVetGreg
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:42pm

    I do like wind power on an individual application. It can make a great supplement to your bill, and the market will determine just how cost effective it will be. The smaller home size I would guess is a smaller risk to flying wildlife.

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  • Doug Piranha
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:42pm

    Obviously the solution to this problem is to make the turbine blades out of nerf material.

    I’m so smart I even scare myself sometimes.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:33pm

      Why not design the idea, and see if its feasible? Maybe there is money in the idea? Maybe it will be a green idea that actually succeeds?

      Please don‘t get one of Obama’s handouts though to start up your company…

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    • Madd
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:26pm

      That sounds like a great idea, but I can’t wait for the “environmental study” you may have to perform! Please get that on video & share it. Nerf is awesome, but I wonder if the blades would still create the vortex, & would they still knock them senseless? Perhaps some “environmental study can be done at a poultry farm, using the Nerf swords & axes, on video?jk

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  • Chrison
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:42pm

    Hmmm… let’s see what the score is…

    1. OIL & GAS: Kills caribou, polar bears, and other animals due to drilling and pipelines. Kills sea life when spilt from ships or oil rigs.

    2. Hydro-Electricity: Kills fish and other wildlife that accidentally get sucked into the turbines.

    3. Wind-Power Electricity: Kills birds and possibly other flying creatures (God forbid that a gnat die at the hands of a wind turbine!)

    4. Solar: Pretty passive, so probably doesn’t directly kill anything. However, the materials to make solar panels have to be harvested and produced, so that probably has a negative ecological impact on the planet.

    5. Algae: His Highness now proposes that, someday, we’ll use algae to create energy. Doesn’t he know that algae is a living organism?!?! Are we to wage genocide on poor, innocent little algae to satiate our never-ending thirst for energy?!?!

    CONCLUSION: The ONLY solution is for us to reverse progress and go back to living in caves! No cars! No electricity! No modern comforts! Only THEN will the planet be safe from us!

    God bless the eco-freaks!

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    • Doug Piranha
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:49pm

      Chrison. But what about people who can’t afford caves? We’ll have to build massive cave projects in poorer neighborhoods and provide cave subsidies, and Section 8 caves. Then we‘ll forces banks to make loans to people to buy their own caves even though they won’t be able to pay back the loans and they‘ll go into default and there’ll be a glut of foreclosed caves on the market.

      You gotta think about stuff like this before you post.
      /sarc off.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:00pm

      Lo-Rise Caves,, Tenament Caves, but then the sierra club will say we are crowding out the bats, and the cave crickets.

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    • Restored One
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:41pm

      Doug, that was good. In todays time, you cant even live in a cave.

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    • flyalot
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:01am

      au contraire, gong back to the stone age presents other problems. No longer a sewer system we go back to using the woods and local rivers and streams, a pollutant. And then we’d have to go back to cutting trees (yikes!!) and burning the wood for warmth and fuel for our fires to cook. Just imagine the millions left on this earth (after they get through killing most of us) all burning fires; not to mention the depletion of the forests but what about all that toxic smoke polluting our air. And to top it all off, depending on where you live, you will either have to (OMG) kill those precious widdle baby animals for food say like Bambi, the coke drinking polar bear, wales for oil so we have light, and all manner of wish and other game and wildlife….hmmmm. Seems to me the modern area is much kinder to the environment and it’s little creatures.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:15am

      The 50% who work will be forced to give up 1/3 of their firewood, water, clothing skins & food so the government can:

      A) Give free firewood, water, skins and food to the other 50% who sit around in their government provided caves watching the workers.
      B) Send cave digging tools, water, firewood, skins & food to hostile foreign tribes.
      C) Vote to give themselves extra skins, water, food, firewood and exclusive healthcare. Their stubbed toes, pneumonia and heart conditions will always be covered.

      Note: Workers will be forced to pay a hefty fine if they accidentally step on a lizard or startle an owl while they’re working.

      Soon the workers won’t be able to keep up because they’re so damn tired from supporting everyone else and medical care for exhaustion is will not be authorized by government mandated healthcare panels. Then the government will start borrowing food, water, skins and firewood from other tribes and the burdens of the next generation of workers will triple. Government tyranny & excesses will increase and 50% of the people will still get free food, water, skins & firewood while they sit around in their free caves watching the other 50% work.

      I wonder if the 50% who work will ever stand up, say “No More” and turn their spears, stone axes, water skins and grubbing tools against the government.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:01pm

      Chrison

      Keep going. It is the ‘box your opponent in’ method the environmentalists are using. The reasoning used to justify not using a particular form of energy is a wall of the box.

      Once they have the box completed, the environmentalists will wipe out humanity (genocide) at worst. At best they will take us a pre-industrial mode of living.

      Solar farms take up too much land area/ destroy too much habitat. Therefore solar is evil.

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    • dnewton
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 6:11pm

      There are heavy metals in solar panels, including cadmium… probably for some electrical connections. The only way to make clean solar panels is to make solar panels with solar energy. Otherwise, the solar cells are made with coal.

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  • Bernice Durdan-Rowland
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:40pm

    Anyone with l/2 of a brain, knows you cannot put moving obstacles in the air (of any height) and not expect birds to get killed !!!! Thats the first thing we thought of when we heard of such an ignorant idea !! Its so disgusting, there must have been someone that got mighty rich off of the crazy idea because all the “sheep” followed when the idea was announced. Oh for that almighty dollar – - – - money was and still is “the root of evil” !!!!!!!

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    • RBSWORLD
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 3:33am

      It has aways been the “ROOT OF ALL EVIL EVER SINCE THE FIRST TRADE WAS MADE BY THE FIRST HUMANS’!!! It just got a lot easier to hide when it became money!!!!

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    • dnewton
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 6:17pm

      A lot of people don’t appreciate the fact that birds, especially migratory birds can get killed with stationary towers such as cell phone or microwave towers. This is especially true of birds that fly at night. Some people think that the the long flight must cause them to put the flying on auto-pilot. Somehow, they just don’t seem to be as aware as they would be before and after the migration.

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  • SERUM
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:39pm

    I wonder if the Alaskan pipeline caused this much wildlife death? Probably not…as for the Keystone pipeline, I see just the hypocrisy of this administration with their carefully surveyed land through migratory bird routes. Their shortcomings always seem to come and bite them in the a$$!

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    • Restored One
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:54pm

      Well the wind turbines are being paid to shut down anyway. Problem solved, except for the fact that we the rate payers are paying them to not be used. The hypocrisy comes from all ends. Protect the birds, protect the fish, protect everything but Human life, but still make you pay.

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:36pm

    Maybe oil and gas are more friendly for the environment that the environmentalist thought, hmmmmm.

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  • heavyduty
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:16pm

    Gee, I wonder what they will have against Solar energy. I guess when they tear down all the wind turbines and erect big solar panels. The birds will land on them and get fried. But who’s going to clean all the crap off of the solar panels so they will be efficient?
    Nothing will beat oil and gas energy for some time to come. Drill baby Drill.

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    • theprophetofpax
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:33pm

      Nothing may beat Oil yet, but we should take the subsidies paid to the oil industry and give it to research for alternative energy. After all, the Oil industry doesn’t need it and we may find something that will be cheaper and work better. It’s high past time we move from oil and coal. We, as a nation, should be pushing the boundaries of what we think is possible. After all, are we not an Exceptional nation?

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    • booger71
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:42pm

      theprophetofpax
      =================
      The oil companies are not paid anything in subsidies., that is another faux fact

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    • heavyduty
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 9:49pm

      The green energy don’t need them either. Let them pay their own way. But by means take the 4.6 billion away from the oil and gas. I am sure they can live without it. But don’t give it to the green guys. You notice that they holler loud about the oil and gas while driving their autos and boats. If they are going to spout off about it let them walk around and prove what they say. Let them live in caves.

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    • twofoot_trucker
      Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:31pm

      A subsidy is something government gives to a company that couldn‘t otherwise make it on it’s own. It is the taking of money from a successful company and giving it to a company that is a failure.

      The notion that government subsidizes oil companies is a myth that has been carefully cultivated over the years until people take it at face value. The government takes money from the oil companies in taxes and fees and then gives them back a small portion. That small portion is not a subsidy. It’s what the company would have had anyway before government confiscation.

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  • Fus Patrol
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:15pm

    If an animal dies due to an oil spill it’s a tragedy. If one dies because of “green energy” it’s somehow ok to all the tree-huggers. We should use their own tactics against them and start filing lawsuits in federal court to defund wind energy. Time to sink or swim green energy.

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  • pamela kay
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:14pm

    This could get interesting. I agree that we need to drill. It will never happen with BHO in office.

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  • high school drop out
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:13pm

    Yeah great! I guess the clean energy folks dont count blood !!

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:13pm

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    And all this time I thought birds had great eye sight. Poor things must be deaf too….

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:12pm

    A colossal failure. Wind ain’t the ticket, algae isn’t gonna get it done; and anything else these lib fools put forward will not replace oil. God gave us oil–to use. Screw these pansies among us. Let‘s beat ’em!

    GOP 2012

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:34pm

      I agree………that oil is there for a reason……so drill ….drill….drill

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:40pm

      The problem is, all their solutions involve one central supply of energy. If they would encourage individual power solutions, like each home has a small wind turbine or solar set up, it would be less harmful and no more power grid failures. In fact, one could argue it on a homeland security standpoint, as right now, all public utilities are vulnerable to hacker shut down…..

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    • AmazingGrace8
      Posted on March 10, 2012 at 8:40pm

      For the future…Algae Roundup..yippee..ya-hoo.
      My fellow Americans, “little o”….I am in the process of creating a new department: “Sucker Fish Relocation/Rehabilitation Program”…All sucker fish in every American fish tank, will be required to report to this department and will be required to complete a one week program, taxpayer funded of course, to fundamentally transform your algae-sucking tendancies and become a blow-fish. Thank you for your cooperation…(and if you don’t report to this department, we will come and turn you into “Charlie The Tuna”)…the consumers will never know the difference..heck most of them ate burger with pink-slime filler when they ate at their school lunches ..so what do they know..tastebuds dead! Go back to your huts and I’m going golfing…oh one last thing…YOU will become known as SUCKERS since this transformation has been in the works (in a desk drawer) and we have been implementing this program for some time now BECAUSE WE CAN! Nah,nah,nah,nah,nah.
      I can’t top Glenn & his two buddies but it’s been fun going down that rabbit-hole while the world is on fire!

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  • txbigfoot
    Posted on March 10, 2012 at 7:02pm

    OMG the butterflies, the nats, the flys.. how cruel. Down with wind energy. Down with sea engery .. the plankton that are dying.. the minnows… how cruel. Yet, the A crowd wear their dog skinned chineese furs.. Seriously… Drill baby drill!

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