Wis. Assembly Reaches Deal to Vote on Budget Bill; Police Dispatched to Find Senators
- Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:13am by
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Wisconsin Democrats in the state Assembly agreed to a deal in the pre-dawn hours Thursday to limit debate and reach a vote, perhaps by midday, on a bill taking away* public workers’ collective bargaining rights. Republican leadership in the Senate meanwhile dispatched police officers to the homes of some of the 14 Democratic lawmakers who have been on the run for a week to avoid voting on the proposal, to compel them to return.
The early morning action Thursday was designed to force a vote on Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s bill that has made Wisconsin the focus of a multiple state effort to curb union rights. The Assembly deal announced shortly after 6 a.m. followed more than 42 hours of debate that began Tuesday morning.
“We will strongly make our points, but understand you are limiting the voice of the public as you do this,” said Democratic state Rep. Mark Pocan of Madison. “You can’t dictate democracy. You are limiting the people’s voice with this agreement this morning.”
The Senate convened at 7 a.m. for long enough to make a call of the house, which allows for the sergeant at arms staff to go to the homes of missing lawmakers with police. The lawmakers can’t be arrested, but Republican Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald said he hoped it would pressure them to return. He would not say how many Democrats were being targeted, but he said it was more than one.
“Every night we hear about some that are coming back home,” Fitzgerald said.
Democratic Sen. Jon Erpenbach, who is in the Chicago area, said all 14 senators remain outside of Wisconsin and would not return until Walker is willing to compromise.
“It’s not so much the Democrats holding things up, it’s really a matter of Gov. Walker holding things up,” Erpenbach said.
Tens of thousands of people have protested the bill for nine straight days, with hundreds spending the night in sleeping bags on the hard marble floor of the Capitol as the debate was broadcast on monitors in the rotunda. Many of them were still sleeping when the deal to only debate 38 more amendments, for no more than 10 minutes each, was announced. The timing of the agreement means the vote could come as soon as noon Thursday.
Democrats, who are in the minority, don’t have the votes to stop the bill once the vote occurs.
Passage of the bill in the Assembly would be a major victory for Republicans and Walker, but the measure must still clear the Senate. Democrats there left town last week rather than vote on the bill, which has stymied any efforts there to take it up.
The battle over labor rights has been heating up across the country, as new Republican majorities tackle budget woes in several states. The GOP efforts have sparked huge protests from unions and their supporters and led Democrats in Wisconsin and Indiana to flee their states to block measures.
Republicans in Ohio offered a small concession on Wednesday, saying they would support allowing unionized state workers to collectively bargain on wages – but not for benefits, sick time, vacation or other conditions. Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s proposal also would allow most public workers to collectively bargain only for wages.
In Ohio, Republican Senate President Tom Niehaus denied protests have dented the GOP’s resolve, saying lawmakers decided to make the change after listening to hours of testimony. He said he still believes the bill’s core purpose – reining in spending by allowing governments more flexibility in dealing with their workers – is intact.
Senate Democratic Leader Capri Cafaro called the changes “window dressing.” She said the entire bill should be scrapped.
“We can‘t grow Ohio’s economy by destroying jobs and attacking the middle class,” Cafaro said. “Public employees in Ohio didn‘t cause our budget problems and they shouldn’t be blamed for something that’s not their fault.”
Wisconsin Democrats have echoed Cafaro for days, but Walker has refused to waver.
Walker reiterated Wednesday that public workers must make concessions to avoid thousands of government layoffs as the state grapples with a $137 million shortfall in its current budget and a projected $3.6 billion hole in the next two-year budget.
The marathon session in the Assembly was grand political theater, with exhausted lawmakers limping around the chamber, rubbing their eyes and yawning as Wednesday night dragged on.
Around midnight, Rep. Dean Kaufert, R-Neenah, accused Democrats of putting on a show for the protesters. Democrats leapt up and started shouting.
“I’m sorry if democracy is a little inconvenient and you had to stay up two nights in a row,” Pocan said. “Is this inconvenient? Hell, yeah! It’s inconvenient. But we’re going to be heard!”
The Ohio and Wisconsin bills both would strip public workers at all levels of their right to collectively bargain benefits, sick time, vacations and other work conditions. Wisconsin’s measure exempts local police, firefighters and the State Patrol and still lets workers collectively bargain their wages as long as they are below inflation. It also would require public workers to pay more toward their pensions and health insurance. Ohio’s bill, until Wednesday, would have barred negotiations on wages.
Ohio’s measure sits in a Senate committee. No vote has been scheduled on the plan, but thousands of protesters have gathered at the Statehouse to demonstrate, just as in Wisconsin.
In Indiana, Democrats successfully killed a Republican bill that would have prohibited union membership from being a condition of employment by leaving the state on Tuesday. They remained in Illinois in hopes of derailing other parts of Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels’ agenda, including restrictions on teacher collective bargaining.
And in Oklahoma, a Republican-controlled state House committee on Wednesday narrowly approved legislation to repeal collective bargaining rights for municipal workers in that state’s 13 largest cities.
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Associated Press writers Ryan J. Foley in Madison and Julie Carr Smyth in Columbus, Ohio, contributed to this report.
*Editor’s note: This story only contains Associated Press content. The Blaze would like to remind readers that Gov. Walker’s bill does not eliminate all collective bargaining rights. State workers would still be able to collectively bargain regarding wages.
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Comments (143)
bvanryn
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:24amThese “representatives” are State employees. When a state employee abandons their job, they are AWOL (absent without leave). What are the state provisions for dealing with AWOL employees? Dismissal? Probation? Docking their pay? How long does an employee go missing before they are fired? The people of Wisconsin must demand that these employees resign!
Report Post »RickN
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:23amThe Democratic party thumbs it’s nose in the air at the democratic process. This provides further proof of the lefts disdain for the United States of America.
Report Post »iwalkalone
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:10amWhy would a clearly political entity like a union ever be allowed to negotiate for govt woirkers? The open bias displayed by the unions makes there every act political. Who do they represent ? the workers or their political allies? Especially since their ally is often the management they negotiate with. Public Employee Unions should be barred from politics.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:27amUnions are not “clearly political” in origin, though they have become so over time.
They should not be allowed to make contributions to political parties or campaigns.
Neither should corporations, posing as persons endowed with “freedom of speech.”
Report Post »BCNU
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:06amBolshevik was the FIRST labor unification entity (labor union)…….. was completely political……..
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 25, 2011 at 9:54amBCNU
What exactly is a “labor unification entity?”
The Bolsheviks were a political party, not a labor union.
Their party was founded in 1902, at which time labor unions, from the British TUC to the American AFL, had existed for decades.
Report Post »Will NV
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:07amAll unions need to be outlawed.
Report Post »They are nothing but rabble rousers.
Obama’s goons and thugs.
If they are not stopped, America is going down the drain, thank you Dems.
Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:19amCountries where effective union organizing has been or is outlawed:
Germany 1933-1945
USSR 1918-1988
China 1949-
Cuba 1960-
Proud company you want us to be keeping!
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:04amLloyd Drako
thinks there is no connection betwwen
Labor Unions and Socialism.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHA
idiot
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 2:05pmLloyd Drako
Here is something for you liberals to chew on. Obama said Walker is anti-union yet Obama presides over the largest union in the country (SEIU) who have no bargaining rights for salary or benefits. Just how do you explain that? I think Walker should tell the state unions they will get the same bargaining rights that Federal Union employees get from their hero Obama! NONE!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on February 25, 2011 at 9:49amDashriprock
“The history of all countries shows that by their own efforts the workers are able to attain only trade-union consciousness.” (Lenin, from “What Is to Be Done,” 1902)
Communists historically have had only contempt for unions (unless of course they control them) because they supposedly sidetrack workers from making political revolution in favor of economic goals like wages and benefits.
Blackhawk1
SEIU is a private-sector union. It has supported Obama, but he does not “preside” over it. Wisconsin public-sector employees are simply trying to keep collective bargaining rights which they’ve had for 50 years. Federal employee bargaining rights are a (pardon the language) red herring here.
Nice try, gentlemen.
Report Post »Blazing
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:07amI’m waiting to hear – and see – how much damage has been done to the Wi capital building and how much it will cost to repair and clean it up. Can this be billed to the unions?
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:04amThere should be a rule in place that gives members 48 hours to come in and vote. If they do not vote within the time alloted, which is a fair amount of time, they will be counted as a NO VOTE.
Report Post »HumbleCitizen
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 1:30pmAnd to add onto that, no taxpayer money to support the hotels, transportation or meals AND no pay while out of state since you can’t be IN state to do states business. Any “donations” will need to be declared as a political contribution (in accordance with all laws) and taxes paid on the fair value of those contributions.
After 7 days of skipping out, the seat will be declared abandoned and void, and then put up for a new election (to fill it).
Report Post »moreteaplease
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:56am“It’s not so much the Democrats holding things up, it’s really a matter of Gov. Walker holding things up,” Erpenbach said.
Report Post »******************************************************************************
Let’s see now, We know where Walker is but not the 14 Dem lawmakers….and Walker is the one holding things up? Just more “give me what I want instead of me having to adhere to the democratic process and cast my vote” BS from the left.
poster
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:55amWell, at least Mr. and Mrs. Obama and friends will be able to “Celebrate Motown” this evening at the White House. Finally, Motown gets its’ due. PAAAAAAAAAAAAW-TAY!
No mention as to what’s on the menu, or what mega-chef will be doing the honors. But rest assured, it WILL be good! The rest of us can just pull that belt a little tighter and sacrifice.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:51amdemocrats deliberately stopped being Americans a long time ago. they could have voted for an actual American, albeit it a bad one, named hillary.
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:02amHillary would have flipped out by now.
I keep waiting to here news of her going off
at a middle east conference
Stripping down then pouring water on herself
and annoucing that she is Queen of the Maypole
while singing ” Three little maids are we…”
if we are lucky
Obama will…..
Report Post »xm-1774u
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:48amhey dems waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa like a spoiled kid that takes his ball and goes home!
Report Post »kissmyazobama
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:48amElections have consequences…….should have got off your butt and voted like I did……..send the union packing…………
Report Post »RICK74
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:45amThe collective bargainig will let the unions get all the money back and beni”s back as soon as dem are back in whether State is broke or not, collective barganing lets teachers teach our kids that unions are good, ect….and of course that it is more important to be part of a union and no matter what the government is lying when it says it’s broke, tell that to the people of Illinois & Chicago who are now asking for a goverment bail out.Oh and by the way all that stimulas money in unions pocket all of it.
Report Post »LittleBigMouth
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:44amHave they checked China? The dems could be looking for funding in case the people and Walker fail.
Report Post »You always go to your friends in hard times. I could save them a step. If the unions have their way, they could fund this crap by selling the homes of the elderly….The homes will be empty – Right?
numbers
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:33amThis isn‘t democracy it’s a perversion of it. Besides we live in a republic not a democracy. Things are screwed up from people trying to make it a democracy when it isn’t. Senator Cafaro is wrong, public employees did cause the budget problems, not alone, but in concert with many other areas where states try to do too much beyond their resources. I’m tired of people trumpeting about the concessions workers agreed to since anything they agree to now can be won back later on. Remember, in the spirit of your own leader, Obama, the Republicans won. If Dems don’t like it too bad…that’s democracy not your efforts to subvert the will of the People.
Report Post »Salmad
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:32amThe fourteen state Senators need to be fired for insubordination. They should not be paid for the time spent hiding. If and when they do return, the speaker needs to begin censure proceedings and or impeachment hearings.
Report Post »Togger
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:22amSomeone should be checking to see who is paying for their hotels and other expenses, it would seem to me if some union or other outside group is paying it would be bribery or at least illegal receiving gifts. I hope the Repubs are on top of that.
Report Post »integrican
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 1:50pm@ Togger;
Report Post »If the unions are if fact paying for any of this, I would classify that as “Conflict of Interest”
I would love for someone there to look into that. mmmmmm? I Wandaaaa?
MyNameIsL
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 4:21pmSalmad and Togger: I agree whole heartedly. Why do we allow the liberal irresponsible free wheeling and free spending “politicians” to get away with work (non)ethics that no other worker in the country can get away with? Fraud, abuse, dereliction of duty. All because they don’t want to lose this vote so they go into hiding like the spineless, weak, ineffective, impotent, no-loads they are.
Report Post »FreedomFighter2006
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:31amThey’ve started a movement in the demon-cratic party, “If you don‘t like a bill or don’t get your way, just leave the state.” Can someone tell me how they are allowed to stay in office when they pull this crap?
Report Post »planter
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:30amTruth with resolve will prevail
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 6:39pmdon’t count on that
Report Post »Keveeee
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:29amThese bozos should be fired. We have the same thing going on in Indiana. I don’t care if they are republicans or democrats. If they don’t show up for work to represent the people they were elected to serve and get PAID dang good money to serve. SHOW UP FOR WORK!
Report Post »What would happen if someone in the military decided that they weren’t going to show up because they wanted to make a statement or avoid making a decision? What happens if I don‘t show up to work so that my employer isn’t able to do a job that I disagree with?
FIRE THEM NOW!
Thomas
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:29amIf you are a Teapartier, 9-12er, libertarian… whatever…your time is now…. For freedom boys… the time is now… Stop your posting…. stop your whining to a friend… get in the mix and fight…. at the end of the day let your kids know what an American stands for….
Report Post »felina g
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:49amWhat do you mean “fight” ?
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:04amCan anyone say troll inciter. Beware the Rotten Democrat apple.
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:40amBy the way, Standing in the Blaze brown tees are only $25.00 today – Big LIKE!
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:01amBy the way, Standing in the Blaze brown tees are only $25.00 today – Big LIKE!
SLEAZYBRAINDEAD HIPPY
I take it Earth is not your native land.
Report Post »CONSERVATIVEINCONNECTICUT
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:29am“It’s not so much the Democrats holding things up, it’s really a matter of Gov. Walker holding things up,” Erpenbach said.
this is truly bizzarro world…and i want off!!
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:58amPush the self help button
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:29amAll the shirts are brown
(All the shirts are brown)
And these guys are gay.
(And these guys are gay).
They’ve been skipping work)
(they’ve been skipping work)
But they still want to be paid
( they sill want to be paid)
They’d be safe and warm
Report Post »(IThey;d be safe and warm)
if they had something to say.
(if they had something to say
Big Time Union Sceaming
(Big Time Union Sceaming) on such a winter’s day.
banjarmon
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:57amGood one!!
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:59amwell done!
Report Post »sleazyhippo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:37amIt is interesting that the singular and best-functioning component of American culture is our military component. It is also the most purely socialist segment of our society, in nearly every aspect. There is nothing further distinct from John Galt capitalism than a platoon of deployed soldiers. I think this shows that it is the heart and mission that matter, and not how property ownership is considered, or material wealth.
Report Post »lylee
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:48amThat’s nice but who are you going to get to sing it? Certainly not the Mamas and Papas. Maybe you could get Ray Stevens with Pat Boone doing harmony.
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:54amWhat are you saying?
Glenn and Stu cant harmonize?
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:57amSLEAZYBRAINDEAD HIPPY
Our Military is not socialist according to Marx
try reading Marx for once instead of just copying
what your Dear Leaders are saying
Report Post »MaggieRose
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:17am@Dash… rockin’
@Sleazy… and to think my Army soldier is over there to protect your right to vomit out such things… I don’t trust myself to say anything else
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:25pmYou had a GOOD cup of coffee this morning, didn’t you?
You ROCK, DashRipRock!
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 1:10pmsleazyhippo,
Report Post »So are you advocating for a military control population and industry. If you are it’s call communism
Go to China they’ve got all the communism you want.
tower7femacamp
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 5:56pmRubin the Red Nosed Bank Jew
had a very fiat nose
and if you ever spent it
you would say 1 times 10 it grows
all of the other bankers use to laugh and call him names
they never let poor Rubin expose their Derivative Games
then one foggy 911 night
Cheney came to say
Rubin with all the money so lite
won’t you hide the crime tonight
then all the criminal bankers loved him
Report Post »as they shouted out with Greed
Rubin hide all the Enron Trades
and you’ll go down in history
Psychosis
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:27amok here is my prediction………………..republicans will win this battle just like in Oklahoma
we will finally win a small step in the long trip to fixing this country, and neutering the unions/democrat circle jerk
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:09am@sleazyhippo…..troll poop. Go peddle your stupidity somewhere else.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 6:49pmNo childish remark from DASH daycare ROCK on the Rudolf
Report Post »song ??? I wonder why ?
grandmaof5
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:27amThese people need to quit using the “middle class” as their excuse for whatever bargaining the want to do. Who do the slugs think pays their high wages and benefits? Certainly not the people whose income is too low to pay taxes – it’s the middle class that carries the burden of their priviledges. The ends justify the means.
Report Post »ruffnex
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 11:07amI’ve heard several of the “Felonious Fourteeen” say they FLED because Gov. Walker was trying to RAM the Bill through. I seem to remember the Dems. “Ramming” Bills through in the DEAD OF NIGHT and BEHIND LOCKED DOORS.
Report Post »To them I say, in THEIR President’s OWN words….THIS TIME……WE WON!
democratgirl
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:12pmSign the RIGHT TO WORK petition from Rand Paul, here:
Report Post »http://righttoworkcommittee.org/rprtwa_petition.aspx?pid=sg1c
smithclar3nc3
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:27amDemocrats said Gov. walker was limiting the peoples voice now thats laughable. It was the democrats who were holding the peoples voice hostage. While protecting the public unions which makes up less than 10% of the populations the 90% who actually pays the salaries of public workers weren’t having their voices heard.
Report Post »Boss J
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:57amI am watching them debate the bill right now and it’s got me on the floor. The dems are so flustered that they can’t even speak.
Report Post »I am especially enjoying how they keep trying to parrot what the Republicans said when the dems were jamming all their garbage through in congress.
democratgirl
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:06pmhttp://righttoworkcommittee.org/rprtwa_petition.aspx?pid=sg1c
Sign the RIGHT TO WORK Petition HERE.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:21am“You can’t dictate democracy. You are limiting the people’s voice with this agreement this morning.”
Report Post »Hey buddy, that’s what I was saying as Obama nad Pelosi shoved Obamacare down my throat! How you like it?
hopefulmainer
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:27amWell said Gonzo! Well said. But the republicans had class and didn’t run and hide!
Report Post »leftiesaredangerous
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:28amNo kidding. Are these people blatant hypocrites or what?
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:29amooo. ooo. Wonder if there’s a live stream of this? Is it too early for pop corn?
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:32amDoesn’t matter if they cut a deal and accept paying more into their benefits. If collective bargaining remains, they are simply waiting for the day when the climate is right for them to rape the taxpayer again. Don’t forget folks, 80% of private sector workers don’t even have a pension.
Report Post »http://guerillatics.com
Stuck_in_CA
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:33amWisconsin Assembly live feed:
http://www.channel3000.com/localvideo/index.html?v=live
Report Post »cnsrvtvj
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:35am@Gonzo – Right on! The President keeps talking about how leaders need to respect the will of the people. How can he even say that with a straight face? How about the fact that the Democrats in Wisconsin left the state. Are they suggesting that has somehow not limited the debate? These people are something else.
http://www.donsmithshow.com – see the Time for Choosing video
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:35amlets get this bill done. He doesnt need the dems there to pass the part of the bill that gives the rights back to the people paying the salaries of these people.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:36amif democrats think the people dont support, they can elect a new senate and reverse this one. it is how our republic works. Like obama throwing out laws and subverting the courts claiming things are unconstitutional, democrats refuse to play by system. i hear the unions cry that they have the peoples’ support, well in next election, vote them in and change it. but this crowd of democrats should be impeached
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:37amAs long as they follow their state constitution, they are not “dictating” policy…Dems want to change their constitution, then they can change it when they get back in power (if they EVER do!)…If the Governor continues to hold out, they will cave! I also heard that the reason they flee their own state is to go to one that has a Democratic Governor…less likely to be arrested and sent home! Interesting…Also, don’t these idiots realize that if they keep it up, the state will have to file bankruptcy and then they will lose… ALL ….OF THEIR PENSIONS! Ignorance…total lack of concern for the taxpayers!
Report Post »exdem
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:37amI hope everyone of them sees the end to their cowardly careers and are never re elected.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:39amunion boss stand to lose billions in dues, they are going to fight for every dime, by stiring up fear by the union workers.Union boss getting the workers all ginned up agaist the taxpayers.
Report Post »saajidkara
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 9:44amCouldn’t say it better myself. Like both your posts.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:01am@buckofama…..the stench is certainly unique. Worst in the morning when the cleaning staff hasn’t been there for 8 or 10 hours. Sad they can’t even clean up after themselves. The duct tape on the marble is going to be worse to deal with. Pine sol and Mr clean will make the eau de squatter dis appear.
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:18amThis REPUBLIC was based on INDIVIDUAL rights. Unions are the total opposite. They are fighting and protesting over COLLECTIVE bargaining rights. They force members to join the Union to get a job. They force the state to automatically take out the dues. The Unions then take the dues and spend them on FAR-LEFT union supported candidates that flee their jobs. The Unions do all of this COLLECTIVELY without letting their members have any say on how to spend THE MEMBERS money !!! They say this is about BARGAINING RIGHTS and NOT about money. Everything they BARGAIN over has to do with MONEY !!! Sick days, Holidays, Pensions,Health-Care and personable days are ALL about MONEY !! The teachers of this country have put them selves on a pedastal and are trying to say they are more important than they really are. Many abuse their sick days and then the states have to pay a SUBSITUTE teacher or they get to collect them and get paid for NOT using them.
TERM LIMITS NOW !!
FAIR TAX NOW !!
Report Post »RICK74
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:19amObama chanting at SEIU meeting how he’s going to take over the USA and use the public service unions to do it watch this people…….. http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2011/02/video-obama-leads-seiu-chant-after-vowing-to-paint-the-nation-purple.html. this is why we can’t have public unions no vote for the people.
Report Post »jamesctheman
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:25amWHy doesn’t someone introduce a bill barring Unions in the state? WHy don’t these Govenors just deem them unconstitutional like Obama & the DOJ on the DOMA did? If Obama can dictate his decrees to the Nation without process the govenors should be able to do the same within their own state. If we’re going to make them scream then really give them something to scream about. Why? Because we believe the rule of law is the truth & due process should happen before the bill is inacted. That‘s why we who believe in the Republic of America don’t pull these stunts. We know these moves don’t serve the best interests of the American public.
Report Post »Boss J
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:26am@Stuck_in_CA- Thanks for the link! I am getting a great laugh from watching this cry-fest.
Report Post »getalong
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:35amSeems to me Unions have plenty of money. Pipefitter’s union just bought a private golf course in MN, and the AFL-CIO has just put down 50 million to buy a public housing complex that houses mostly Somalian “refugees” in Minneapolis. Anyone care to explain what that is all about?
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:36am“You can’t dictate democracy. You are limiting the people’s voice with this agreement this morning.”
Aren’t the democrats that are hiding in Illinois dictating democracy by their action of leaving and limiting the voice of the people?
Report Post »mikelivi
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:38amIts not the dems holding things up it walker?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The dems are out of the state!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh my God!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do they even hear what the are saying?
Report Post »joey g
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:42amright on…i feel the same way…
Report Post »count_me_in
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 10:44amKind of funny right?? Does this make them the party of NO now?? or just cowards??
Report Post »democratgirl
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:02pmYou all know that Obama is behind the scenes and they will penalize Wisconsin in some way to prevent Gov. Walker from getting his way, right? There are no more states’ rights anymore, not as long as the Democrats are running this country. WATCH WHAT THE LEFT HAND IS DOING during all this. There are things going on we don’t know about yet……that will take away Wisconsin’s rights. Personally, the taxpayers of Wisc should be calling on the Governor to fire all those Democrats who refuse to come back and vote. Afterall, it is we, the people, who votes for them and pays their salaries, so it should be we, the people, who fires them. If I did not go to work without good reason, my company would fire me. I have seen unions protect alcoholics, drunks, druggies, people who show up late on a daily basis, etc. These unions have gotten out of hand and while they are good at some point, there should be 2 sides to every coin: the right-to-work while unionized. Wisc is NOT a right-to-work state and therefore the unions are in control. It will never change unless the people of the state, the taxpayers who pay taxes to Wisc, stand up and stop this. The Governor is speaking for we, the people and I think he is doing a great job, but he needs to do so much more, like GET THE ATTORNEYS INVOLVED MORE and keep Obama and his hacks out of it. Put a bill on the ballot that Wisc should be a RIGHT TO WORK STATE. When that passes, then fire all the union people and hire those who want to work for the kids and not the unions. The union can still be there, but it would then be up to the worker whether or not they want to pay union dues. If not, they can still work. There was time when we needed unions UNTIL they became corrupt with ruthless men and women who only wanted power and money. It is sad, but a necessary fight we need to take as citizens: DEMAND A RIGHT-TO-WORK STATE FOR ALL STATES.
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jzs
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:04pmFOX’s Shep Smith and Juan Williams weigh in: support the Unions!
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/shep-smith-pretending-wisconsin-is-about-a-fiscal-crisis-is-malarkey/
End of career move at FOX for Shep I’m afraid. He actually expresssed his own opinion instead of the fair and balanced FOX talking points. I guess he didn’t get the memo.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:12pmGonzo for Attorney General!
Report Post »Hooray for Gonzo!
Thank you, Sir!
democratgirl
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:17pmjzs:
Report Post »I don’t watch Shep that much, but he is entitled to his own opinion. Remember, FoxNews IS supposed to be FAIR and BALANCED, with both sides giving their views. Shep always seemed to me, to be center right anyways, so it is no surprise if what you say is true. I do not think he will be relieved of his duties. But, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, and possible CNN may just offer him more money and he may take it. If so, good luck to him as nobody I know watches those stations. I know when I watch FoxNews, they do show opposing views and I LIKE THAT, I really do. I want to know how the other side feels so I CAN decide for myself. Giving only one view is what the Democrats do. So, leave Shep alone. He will either be applauded or his ratings will go down. THE PEOPLE (VIEWERS) WILL DECIDE HIS FATE.
Showtime
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:20pm@jzs
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 12:04pm
FOX’s Shep Smith and Juan Williams weigh in: support the Unions!
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In a manner of speaking, I support unions, but not for government employees. Government employees already have protections. Private industry involving coal mines and other places where there is a level of danger need unions to protect their safety on the jo. Otherwise, the workers would be in greater peril in case of a disaster.
Shep Smith would be served well if he is replaced. He’s a nut case.
Report Post »beckisnutsisnuts
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 5:09pmShep is a distant relative of Jack Elam, the dude with the third eye on the twilight zone episode ‘Who’s the alien”
Report Post »Rights of Man
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 8:07pm“But the republicans had class and didn’t run and hide!”
No, the Conservatives just stood there and took it, the lousy cowards.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on February 24, 2011 at 8:59pm“Seems to me Unions have plenty of money. Pipefitter’s union just bought a private golf course in MN, and the AFL-CIO has just put down 50 million to buy a public housing complex that houses mostly Somalian “refugees” in Minneapolis. Anyone care to explain what that is all about?”
The fact that the Unions are funding and supporting Jihad is stunning.
Stunning. The Blaze should be all over this.
If The Unions plan on implementing violence via Somali muslims, then serious problems are at hand. These aren’t your normal run-of-the-mill vandals and rioters. They will use the opportunity to visit pain upon the unbelievers.
A shocking development.
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