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Wis. State Sen: We’re Willing to Hide for Days, Weeks

CHICAGO (AP) — Democrats who fled Wisconsin to block a vote on a sweeping anti-union bill could stay in hiding for days or even weeks.

Democratic state Sen. Jon Erpenbach (erp-UN-bahk) spoke to The Associated Press at a Chicago hotel on Friday. He and fellow Democratic senators left Wisconsin on Thursday to delay the near-certain passage of a bill backed by Republicans and GOP Gov. Scott Walker.

Thousands of protesters have also flocked to the Capitol in Madison, Wis., to demonstrate against the bill.

Erpenbach says there’s no fixed date for Democrats to return to Wisconsin. He say all 14 Senate Democrats will meet somewhere in Illinois on Friday. He would not say where or exactly when.

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:06pm

    Arrest the for theft!Stealing tax payer time and Money!Toss The Bums in Jail.

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  • thebertmanlives
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:05pm

    Prepare for the end, Beck Heads, This is how it will look…For you.

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  • roxee
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:04pm

    http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2011/02/17/wi-showdown-democrats-not-needed-for-regular-business/ I think WI does not even need the little hiding children!

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  • suran
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:02pm

    Who is footing the bill for the coward-Dems hidey-hole motel rooms? Hopefully, not the taxpayers. I suspect a union or other special interest group? Find this out and you might find out the true organizer(s) behind this ridiculous fiasco.

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    • thebertmanlives
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:08pm

      The American Working Class, WHAT IF?

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    • shilde58
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:11pm

      I imagine it is the union thugs…Obama’s buddies….hopefully they can lock them up!!!

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  • nostromo
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:01pm

    From the comments I have heard and read, Wisconsin teachers have disgraced themselves with both their arrogance and ignorance. And I taught for 10 years before starting my own business.

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  • dawg of gawd
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:01pm

    How’s it feel to go up against the party of hell no?

    Swim in you whiney conservative punks.

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    • Insipid
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:08pm

      Better than the party of “Spend mo, yo !”

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:10pm

      Another unionista goon no doubt?

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    • LLATPOH
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:28pm

      Least we can swim. :)

      It was a joke, couldn’t help it. Please report my post for removal.

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    • ClockKing
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 4:28pm

      Pretty damn good dawg. We been itchin’ for a fight with you lowlife scumbags. Coward lazy punks.

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  • Luvthyfreedom
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:01pm

    This will not work…..the people have awaken and are now aware of the democrats tricks. We must stay engaged and support those on the right side.

    Will be interesting to see how the main freak media covers this.

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    • Warphead
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:19pm

      There is a pro Walker rally scheduled for Saturday in Madison, WI. I encourage all to attend and show your support. The liberal media has made it appear that “everyone” is against the Governors plans to have the teachers start to pay for some of their benifits. Come out in force and let them know how far off from the truth they really are.

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  • missy8s
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:56pm

    No more negotiating with UNION TERRORISTS.

    Union terrorists have absolutely no role in government, what they are doing in Wisconsin is CRIMINAL as it falls under the legal definition of a “wildcat” strike.

    PERIOD!

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  • Jezreel
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:56pm

    This would be a very good time to use this situation to remove those congressmen and replace them with better men. I know that there has to be a law or somekind of clause that would be used against them for their behavior. We need to get the men out that have no backbone and replace them. I don’t even see why nobody has even mentioned anything about impeaching Obama in the first place.

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  • LilAnn2012
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:55pm

    Actually, I would prefer it if you never came back (as one Wisconsinite to another). I want Gov Walker to introduce an emergency bill that will allow the vote to go through as those Senators decided their support for the protesters is actually a lack of representation. Those districts that now have no representation should have an emergency votes quickly elect people who will be willing to do the job.

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  • RightPolitically
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:55pm

    Once again, The Left proves exactly how little regard they have for the democratic process. By hiding out, they prove that they don’t want a vote to occur because they know they will lose it. That translates into their complete UNWILLINGNESS TO RESPECT the will of the people! At heart LEFTISTS are FASCISTS……

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  • thebertmanlives
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:54pm

    Stay Strong, American heroes of the Working Class. The Cowards will Fall.

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  • USA-CONSERVATIVE
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:51pm

    They are all meeting at Rahm’s house.

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  • 13thGenerationAmerican
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:51pm

    In February, 1988, Walker admitted violating Marquette campaign rules during his run for student government president and the Marquette Tribune deemed him “unfit” for office after finding Walker’s campaign guilty of “mudslinging,” and after reports that his campaign was throwing out copies of the paper that contained information damaging to Walker.

    Walker left the university not long afterward.

    College drop out or kicked out. Either way, Walker is a typical GOP hack

    13thGenerationAmerican  
    • thebertmanlives
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:59pm

      Careful, Do you know you have made the etetetet Blacklist?

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    • wipinitboss
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:04pm

      13 What you fail to see, as plain as the nose on your face, is that records of the Governor are made available… I’m sure he would be willing to provide a birth certificate too..

      Also, what you don’t realize is that these idiots must return to the state at some point. Unless the people who put them there wise up and prohibit their re-entry into the state.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:08pm

      Imagine that….two Soros operatives “fluffing” one another!

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    • 13thGenerationAmerican
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:17pm

      First They came… – Pastor Martin Niemoller

      First they came for the communists,
      and I didn‘t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

      Then they came for the trade unionists,
      and I didn‘t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

      Then they came for the Jews,
      and I didn‘t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.

      Then they came for me
      and there was no one left to speak out for me.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:21pm

      Must be hard to log out and log back in to your other account Bertman.

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    • dakotareal
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:20pm

      So, your name, 13thgernerationamerican, implies that you are an elitist. you prove that liberal dems/progressives concider yourselves “elite”. you think you should tell everyone how to live. ha! so easy to figure out progressives!

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    • ProgessiveFail
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 4:42pm

      Does anyone care what the trolls are rambling about? Don’t even respond, it’s a waste of your time.

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  • eat-more-bacon-USA
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:50pm

    Typical, pathetic, obama democrats.

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    • Hungry_i
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:03pm

      And to think the COIC* has thrown his office behind them. Outrageous, but not surprising.

      *Community Organizer in Chief.

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  • tobefreeinmt
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:50pm

    These dirt bags should all be impeached for derelict of duty. Are you guys in Wisconsin going to take this crap??? What happened to the Wisconsin I remember??? You people used to have some balls, now you just let these sleazy union thugs push you around and use you and your kids like tools. Stand the hell up and take your state back from these usurpers and criminals. You will have a chance to sweep these scum bags out the door (and hopefully into a prison cell) in November. It’s your state. Stand up for it!!!

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    • FreedomFighter2006
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:59pm

      Agreed. Come on WI, locate your balls and as the people of WI show them who they “REALLY” are suppose to be representing!

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:06pm

      Nope, it’s not their state anymore…..the progressives control it…By the way, got any room up there for a few freedom loving people?

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  • Bob_R_OathKeeper
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:50pm

    Liberals are cowards and are just one of our many enemies.

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  • 111gecko
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:50pm

    Now if we could just get all of the Dems from every other State to hide indefinately; we would have a good start….

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  • RightUnite
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:49pm

    Let them hide. The Governor of Wisconsin needs to lay off what ever amount of teachers he needs to to make his budget. If the Dems won’t do their job, then the Governor needs to do what he has to do.

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    • Sharkhaywood
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:58pm

      I agree. The gov said that if they didn’t pass this bill then 6,000 would be laid off. I say do it. And start with all of the teachers who pulled this sick out only to go protest.

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  • Hawt'n'Secksie
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:46pm

    Wow these guys are so clever. I am loving this ingenuity. They are amazing and most likely impeccably groomed.

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    • fatsomann
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:12pm

      With expense accounts, probably sipping margarita’s by the pool.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:28pm

      And smell of sandalwood?

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    • CatB
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:32pm

      If we can keep “finding” them we can keep them on the run .. come to Florida .. I would love to go and protest the WI DEMS!

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  • Its Gonna Getcha
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:45pm

    There should be criminal charges filed against these clowns. It should be illegal.

    Report Post » Its Gonna Getcha  
    • thebertmanlives
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:56pm

      Why? Walker is just serving his Corporate Masters like any good slave.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:58pm

      It probably is. I haven’t read the Wisconsin Constitution, but I will bet my bottom dollar that SOMEBODY is!

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:17pm

      @thebertmanlives
      Walker was elected by the people of the State of WI, not corporations. Leave it to you to say something stupid like that.

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    • Whostolemypig
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:55pm

      Wisconsin Law

      946.12 Misconduct in public office. Any public officer or
      public employee who does any of the following is guilty of a Class
      I felony:
      (1) Intentionally fails or refuses to perform a known mandatory, nondiscretionary, ministerial duty of the officer’s or employee’s office or employment within the time or in the manner
      required by law

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    • Deepdiver58
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 9:20am

      @THEBARTMANLIVES
      Corporate masters? Cite your reference or you are just another bought-and-paid-for mouth(y) picece of the Progressives.
      At one time the unions may have had a real position to help the working people in America. Now, they are holding the strings of Obama and Dems in congress.
      Speaking of Dems… does anyone remember the cowards in Texas a few years ago? The Dems (cowards) did the same thing: ran away so they did not have to vote on something they did not like.

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  • Patriot
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:45pm

    Time for new rules. It is pathetic that the worlds finest democracy is being mocked by its own members. I live in Madison. I legally voted, and by God I want my will to be done. It’s time for the Republicans in Wisconsin to be a little creative too.

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    • CatB
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:30pm

      Start google ing .. .you know the progressives love Google and will see the top ones of the day …

      Home School Wisconsin

      Impeachment Wisconsin

      I know it sounds ‘easy” but they really do watch this!

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  • tenn3535
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:44pm

    How is that possible?? Impeach them for failing to uphold the Constitution or treason. There’s gotta be something to charge them with. Imagine if they were republican instead of dems???? Oh boy MSNBC would have a field day. Where is the logic in any of this??

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    • Nobamazone
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:51pm

      I agree, how can this even be possible? IT IS THEIR JOB! They were hired to do it, they are paid to do it, if they don’t do it, they should not have the job.

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:52pm

      They are supposedly elected officals. Wouldn’t those be fraudulent elections if they leave their appointed positions, for any reason.

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    • FreedomFighter2006
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:55pm

      Where are the lawyers at… Someone has to be able to get them with something… The law can’t actually say, “The senate has the right to come to work if they want to or not…!” I’ll donate to a cause to boot those idiots out of office. Someone let me know how I can help. (FYI: I’m from Nebraska)

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:04pm

      Logic is the last thing being contemplated right now. I’m starting to think that these democrat cowards who ran to Illinois should be brought back in CHAINS and locked to their seats! Add in now that several state governments are stating that they will refuse to enact any of the CommieCare plan, and the Feds are now stating that they will FORCE the states to enact the law, and we are in for a very wild ride this spring…sounds like the Supreme court is going to have to quit dodging the bullets and “judge up”!

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    • Hoosier Daddy
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:06pm

      I read that willful refusal to perform their duties was a felony in Wisconsin, punishable by fines and imprisonment. Don’t know if this applies in the strictest sense, but I hope the Governor is looking into it.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:49pm

      If refuse to do my Job because I don’t like it I get fired. If a soldier refuses to do his job he get court martialed. If a lawyer refuses to do his job he loses his liscense well these state senators have done all three so the answer is simple……fire them and declare them non-residents of the state.

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  • gramma b
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:44pm

    Democrats. Ya gotta love them. When they lose elections, they resort to mobs and refusing to show up for votes.

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    • 7.62AirMailComeGetIt
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:53pm

      Where are the FEDS that can go across state lines and bring them back????

      Have a judge issue a warrant for their return…..

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:06pm

      fire the teachers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • thebertmanlives
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:14pm

      @7.62AirMailComeGetIt
      Scalia or Thomas? Both have been bought by Koch Brothers

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    • littlecinders
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:34pm

      True, Gramma B. These senators, whose pictures will one day hang in the hall of shame, are also paving the way for Socialism and Communism to be the governance of the once beautiful America. Perhaps with more than a tinge of sharia law. I would like to know who is orchestrating the spread of this lynch mob mentality across our country………Is it the blessed one at the top? Barack means ‘blessed’ in Arabic

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    • Max jones
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 5:45pm

      LILCINDERS…saturday Nite live, Dana Carvey, as the church Lady, “Do you think it could have been………….Satan??”. Maybe just his most loyal servants, making ready his place.

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    • Sparky101
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 9:30pm

      The lead on CNN is “Dems Challenge Wisconsin Governor.“ ”Embattled Republican Gov. Scott Walker defended a budget bill that would slash public workers’ benefits and most collective bargaining rights…”

      Seems the lefty news will always try to spin it. They refuse to mention that the voters elected this body, and they are the ones who are being harmed, not the poor socialistic workers.

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    • TenStrings
      Posted on February 20, 2011 at 11:47pm

      An easy fix to this whole thing is: One heroic rebublican switch parties for just one day. Problem solved Dems lose. I’d do it –I’d have to take a long shower afterwords…But, yeah –screw the democRAT bastards

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  • leftiesaredangerous
    Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:41pm

    Cowards.

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    • PA PATRIOT
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:50pm

      They should be replaced by a special election with those who want to work for the people, not special interest groups. DO NOT TELL THE THE NEA IS NOT A SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP!

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    • Insipid
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:51pm

      Agreed. they should not be paid for any of the time that they are not in session.

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    • Lana40
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:52pm

      It’s time to stop playing nice. There’s enough Patriots out there, someone is bound to see one of the fouteen. Tackle their butts, do a citizen arrest and haul their yellow bellied cowards back to the capital. Unbelievable that we hire these folks, they take an oath, and STILL can do what they want. Arghhhh!!

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    • True American66
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:54pm

      At some point, it must be in the Wisconsin state law that, elected officials can be removed from their seats and replaced by Special Election for DERELICTION OF DUTY.

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    • poverty.sucks
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:55pm

      Great solution, calling a special election will get them into town to be tarred and feathered.

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    • pajamash
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:55pm

      I just have to wonder how this would play out if Republicans had fled in a similar situation?!

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    • American Capitalist
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:57pm

      It’s like Atlas Shrugged in reverse!! Instead of the conservatives leaving and letting it fail, the lefties are leaving and letting the state succeed

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    • booger71
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:59pm

      Impeach them or replace them

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    • thebertmanlives
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:01pm

      @cheezwhiz
      9/11 Really? do you want to go there?

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:03pm

      @ thebertmanlives
      What happened ? Something triggered something in you ?
      You seem to be toooooooooo eager to go there !

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:03pm

      I agree with everyone else, these legislators should be brought up on charges of abandoning office and fired. The teachers who walked out should also be fired. If you can find them picketing, when they called in “sick,” fire their butt.

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    • Hoosier Daddy
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:03pm

      Too bad the Mossad doesn’t take private contracts. We could hire them to grab one of those stinking cowards at their Illinois hideout and drag them back to Wisconsin and handcuff them to their desk in the Senate chamber. It would be humiliating, but do they really deserve any more respect than they have shown for the state legislative process?

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    • BMartin1776
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:07pm

      Cowards is the nice way to describe them.. If I say what I really think my post will get pulled and Ill get banned!

      When this thing is over an impeachment process must be initiated or the people with some common sense should push for recall/ vote of no confidence leading into emergency elections to replace them. I know this has happened in the past in TX and that is no excuse to continue such childish antics. I think all states should have a rule on legislators they must be present for votes. If not their vote is null and the State house will vote with them or without them WHEN legislators deliberately leave the state.

      Founding Fathers must be turning in their graves right now. They had the courage to put their lives on the line and stand for what they believe. Look at us today now “we” run and hide from a vote!

      STOP playing their game and start playing your game through http://www.savingtherepublic.com

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:07pm

      From what I heard, Rush said they were at a bar in Illinois across the state line. If they know where they are, why doesn’t someone bring them back. Also, they are using unauthorized State property to get there, there’s hasta be SOME law about that.

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:10pm

      Not only should they not be paid they should be brought up on criminal charges !!!!!! This is not democracy this is a hi-jacking of the voters voice that spoke during the last state elections. They are mere criminals who do not like the rule of law when it does not suit there agenda when they are in the minority. Imagine the outcry if republicans would have done this when the dems controlled all 3 branches on the national level when it came to the health care vote. This should end with jail time for every one of those politicians and impeachment proceedings bottom line.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:11pm

      I am waiting to see what Ohio legislators do when it’s their turn. Maybe we should be ready for them and block their bus.

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    • thebertmanlives
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:11pm

      @cheezwhiz
      3000 dead to support MIC, YES I WILL GO THERE. GETSOME.

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    • waggie
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:17pm

      I guarantee that if Wisconsin were to hold a special election right now to get these throw these 14 COWARDS out of office, not only would they lose their jobs, but all or nearly all of them would be replaced with REPUBLICANS. I don’t like everything I have to do in my job either, but I never decide to just not show up. This whole thing makes my BLOOD BOIL!

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    • cnsrvtvj
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:20pm

      Exactly leftiesaredangerous, these guys are cowards. When the going gets tough, the liberals leave the state and hideout. Sounds like a great campaign slogan to me. It has a nice ring to it. That is the typical liberal mindset in the spotlight.

      http://www.donsmithshow.com – see the lesson in civility video

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    • waggie
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:21pm

      It‘s like a small child having a temper tantrum when they don’t get their own way. Waaaaa, I‘m going to run away ’cuz I don‘t like what the governor’s doing! What a courageous, dignified bunch those democrats are!

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    • touch
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:23pm

      Cowards! Anti-American! Self-Serving! Weasels!

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    • CatB
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:24pm

      Replace the COWARDS!

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    • jagr1850
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:29pm

      they abandoned their elected post and now they are terminated by default….per derelictition of swore duty …..they were not hired to HIDE UNDER A DESK!!!!!!!!!!

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    • nptden
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:30pm

      The Gov should do like Reagan…if the teachers don’t go back to work…FIRE them….the legislators should be brought on charges…Let’s see what happens Sat when, citizens who pay the salaries of these ingrates show up…Time for the ‘people’ to speak not just a few ‘bully’ unions…Get tough.

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    • hauschild
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:34pm

      TRUEAMERICAN66:

      Good luck – Wisconsin is a progressive state, meaning anything like that was probably wiped off the books.

      What the progressive senators of Wisconsin have now done is set a new precedent that it is fine to break the law and/or any oath you take. This mindset is why the founders questioned whether America could rule herself. There were dirt bags like this back then, but just not as many.

      Hope all you dumb asses that voted for progressives are proud of yourselves.

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    • glennbeckisstooopid
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:34pm

      Kinda like these guys huh?

      http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/

      http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/14/republican-walkout/

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:44pm

      They broke the oath they swore to up hold and should be removed asap.

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    • hauschild
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:46pm

      glennbeckisstooopid:

      You‘re a prime example of what I’m talking about. You have no ability or will to reason.

      What you can’t seem to grasp is that there is no money none. Where do you loons expect to get it from? Even if you taxed the rich to 90%, you idiots have created such an intertwined net over the past 30 years that you’ll still bankrupt the country. You are aware of this, correct? Does it not bother you? If not, what are your motives as an American citizen???

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:47pm

      Not cowards, thay are preventing the fascist in the senate from stripping away the rights of the WI workers. They are being true leaders and patriots, preventing tin pot dictator Walker from destroying rights.

       
    • grandmaof5
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:48pm

      PA PATRIOT, Amen!

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    • Lantern
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 2:56pm

      @encinom
      Which rights are they stripping? Last I heard, they just want to balance the budget and that requires that some people have to help pay for their retirement and health care. Neither one is a “right.”

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    • thegrassroots
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:13pm

      Here are e-addresses for the four most outspoken of the wimpy, run-away senators:

      Jon Erpenbach = Sen.Erpenbach@legis.wi.gov
      Chris J Larson = Sen.Larson@legis.wisconsin.gov
      Mark Miller = Sen.Miller@legis.wi.gov
      Tim Cullen = Sen.Cullen@legis.wi.gov

      Help to burst that delusional little bubble they’re all living in by letting them hear Loud & Clear & Alot from True Americans All Across The United States of America!

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    • hauschild
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:26pm

      ENCINOM:

      At least have the stones to qualify your statements accurately. When you misleadingly state that these leftist senators are “standing up for the working people of Wisconsin”, have the stones to accurately define who “the working people” are.

      What you loons conveniently withhold from your statements is that the “working people” in your world are government workers. In Wisconsin, there are 300,000 of them. Besides the fact that 300,000 state workers in a state of 5.5 is ridiculously high, the cost of ONLY INSURANCE to the Wisconsin taxpayer is 22,000 PER GOVERNMENT WORKER. 22,000 times 300,000 (simple calc even for a lefty) is what? And, why do government workers – who produce no good – deserve such a ridiculously generous medical plan? Then, there’s the current pension contribution, which is what, 12.5% of their bloated salaries? What do most private sector workers get that incidentally have no tenure or job security, yet produce actual goods? 1 to 3% of their salaries matched into a 401k, which is not guaranteed like a government worker’s pension?

      You’re an idiot – pure and simple. I hate to name call, but how can anybody with a conscience defend the way government workers are treated? It’s near treasonous. You’re destroying the country with your greed.

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    • chazman
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 3:31pm

      They should all have to face a recall vote!

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    • CyberJocky
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 4:08pm

      Well If they are hiding and too cowardly to attend. Couldn’t they now be considered incapacitated? What is the proceedure for replacing incapacitated legislators?

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    • hud
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 4:15pm

      To the Gov don’t pay them, cut off credit cards, repossess cars, etc and they’ll be back soon enough.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 4:18pm

      @Encinom

      Have you read the bill? 

      What rights is this bill taking from “unions”? 

      Is the State Legislature of Wisconsin a “Union” in form? 

      These 14, being a part of the States “union”, are breaking the “Union” rules/code of conduct and work ethic so are in violation of the very thing they say they stand for…..How embarrassing for you and them!!!!! 

      You call them Patriots but yet they are running from the problem….Patriots do not run from problems but run to them. So wrong again you are. 

      If you can not answer question 1,2,3 truthfully, then please shut up. Thanks….

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    • Max jones
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 4:38pm

      to ENCINONOM and any other wannabes here on site….If the unions were a little bit pro- common sense, at all, we would not be in the fiscal position we are now in. I have worked in an environment where there were union workers and contract workers, doing the same job. The contract workers made &3.00 less per hour than the union men…Supposedly, the hourly difference was to compenste the dues and other union expenses. The job I had was to audit and rate production levels and quotas daily. Contract labor was 20% more efficient per dollar, across the board. If Management could have legally breached their union contracts, they would have, in a New York minute. I was told years later, that the company was swallowed up and forgotten.
      I’ve seen both sides and I KNOW exactly what is going on with the unions. To me it looks like pure greed. It is a power trip and as such is most certainly corrupt.

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    • Max jones
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 4:56pm

      Encinonom….I just love you man!!! Your positions are so ignorant, that even a dumbazz like me can blow them all apart..Essential government workers shoud not be allowed bargaining rights, for security’s sake, period. Non-essential workers should be pink-slipped. If they are non-essential, what the hell are we paying them for?
      Compenstion for govt. workeers should not exceed the average compenstion in the private sector, categorically.
      Common sense.

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    • Max jones
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 5:30pm

      I’ve read a couple of posts here that state these wisconsin senators are protecting the rights of “the people”. I hate to be the one to break it to them, but “the people” , are they, that put the conservative majority in thIs body. Tyranny is defined in one way as ‘the minority rules.’ If these scheming devils believe in what they are doing, by defying the majority, (as have Obama and Pelosi), then they need to be prosecuted. There HAS to be some legal recourse. If we can find it, maybe we could try to use it on other shameless, thievin’, progressive abortionist scum.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:12pm

      For whoever reported or deleted my post…. olo ….. Some sign language for ya….

      Two solutions:
      First hold the vote with out them. I’m sure in the state statutes there is a way around elected servants who run and will not show due to knowing they will lose. If special appointments/elections need be done do it immediately. 

      Second if you can’t vote without them or hold appointments quick enough, then shut every part of that state government down until they return. If these 14 idiots are willing to sacrifice the whole state of Wisconsin for their small minority then let it sit on their shoulders until the whole state demands their return. 

      There is no difference in the 14 who cowardly left and Whoopi and Joy walking of when Bill Oreilly was on the view. These 14 are traitors to their state Constitution and to the people of Wisconsin. They should be treated as cowardly traitors….. 

       

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    • _waTson_
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:17pm

      Let me dumb this down for the State Union Lovers!!!!! Here are the facts you don’t get:

      1) The average teachers wage in the State of Wisconsin is $60,000.
      2) The average teachers benefit compensation package is $40,000. (Pension, healthcare, etc)
      3) Wisconsin has one of worst rated Public School System in the Nation (sorry but these are testing facts, not mine).
      4) Currently there is more money being paid to teachers then going into classrooms.
      5) This bill is not Anti-Collective Bargaining of wages/salaries ONLY with respect to (benefits, i.e. pension and healthcare).
      6) If the bill does not pass then those complaining about their Collective Bargain “RIGHTS” being taken away must not understand that the other consequence is, the State will be FORCED to lay-off 5,500-20,000 people.
      7) State employess wages are paid with TAX PAYER dollars, not Union money. They work for me and for you.

      This is not complicated math, or thought, or reason.

      Please forget whatever class you have yourself in (Republican, Democrat, Union Member, Black, White, Muslim, Teacher, Janitor, Martian, etc.) is SOOO not important anymore. The only thing that currently matters is fiscal responsibility.

      WE must stop allowing State Unions to demand that our States give something they DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO GIVE. WE must stop allowing State Unions to threaten the people they work for.

      Finally, shame on the 14 Democrats in Wisconsin that lacked the courage to ‘suit up and show up”. You know the ones that ran like C H I C K E N S and are hiding in a RESORT while they people they work for are gathered in the Capitol, missing work, some not being paid, while schools are closed for kids, etc., why bus loads of Union member from other states gather to protest and riot. In my opinion, well, umm they ought to get their ‘walking papers’ first.

      God Bless Governor Scott Walker and the citizens of the State of Wisconsin.

      Contacts/info:
      Governor: Scott Walker, 115 East Capitol, Madison, Wisconsin 53702. 606/26-1212 email: govgeneral@wisconsin.gov
      Wisconsin Senate Page: http://legis.wisconsin.gov/senhome.htm
      The Bill: http://nxt.legis.state.wi.us/nxt/gate

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:49pm

      malfeasance, misfeasance, Nonfeasance, take your pick or all from these low-life cowards. Give them all the boot and put them in jail where they belong.

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    • FungalWarrior
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 1:15am

      Sounds like it is high time for a recall election to be held for dereliction of duty. If I was a Wisconsin resident, I’d be furious at the Party of NO-where-to-be-found an looking to kick their butts out of office. They should put a rider on the budget vote to support orphan services and senior health services, so by not voting the dems will be guilty of starving orphans and wanting old people to die…it is what the libs would do if the tables were turned….

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    • Mikeyyy
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 2:05am

      This is very polarizing. I don’t think they have fully calculated the ramifications against them by this position. No one knows the outcome. It’s like the line from the movie The Truman Story: How will it end?

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    • US Citizen
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:39am

      Are the taxpayers of WI paying for this boondoggle in IL????

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:59am

      And when they crawl back out from under the rocks they ought be welcomed back with a nice cozy jail cell– or at least discover they are locked out of the Offices they abandonded when they went into hiding.

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    • HD_DOCTOR
      Posted on February 19, 2011 at 7:10pm

      Fire all lawmakers and teachers who do not show up for work by Monday.

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