Wis. University Allegedly Labels Prof‘s Movie Poster ’Unacceptable’ & Removes It
- Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:06pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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University of Wisconsin-Stout theater professor James Miller has become a firecracker in a debate over free speech after he posted a controversial poster in front of his office door on September 12. The poster was from the short-lived sci-fi television series “Firefly.” What did it say? Here’s a copy:
The poster’s quote was apparently deemed offensive by some, including UW-Stout Police Chief Lisa Walter, who took down Miller’s poster and e-mailed him on September 16. The higher education free-speech group FIRE (Foundation for Individual Rights in Education) obtained copies:
Dr. Miller,
I wanted to notify you that I removed a printed/copy (pictures attached) of a poster from the outside of your office. I don’t know if you posted it or if someone else placed it on your board, but it is unacceptable to have postings such as this that refer to killing.
I knocked on your office door while there, but it appeared as though you were not in your office at the time. Contact me if you have any questions.
Respectfully,
Chief Walter
Miller was none too pleased. His response to Walter avoided pleasantries:
Unacceptable to whom?
How dare you act in a fascistic manner and then sign your email “respectfully!” Respect liberty and respect my first amendment rights.
The back-and-forth continued, with Walter using her second e-mail to threaten Miller with disorderly conduct charges. Miller responded:
Don’t threaten me with charges that have no basis in reality–I am a committed pacifist and a devotee of non-violence, and I don’t appreciate card carrying members of the NRA who are wearing side arms and truncheons lecturing me about violence.
Later on September 16, Miller upped the ante by placing this new poster on his office door in reaction to Walter’s censorship:
He eventually went to FIRE for support after College of Arts, Humanities and Social Sciences Interim Dean Raymond Hayes scheduled a meeting with Miller about “the concerns raised by the campus threat assessment team.”
FIRE explains that it reached out to the university:
“On September 21, FIRE wrote UWS Chancellor Charles W. Sorensen, explaining that the posters are not a credible threat, nor would any reasonable person expect them to cause a substantial disruption. In Virginia v. Black (2003), the Supreme Court defined true threats, as an exception to the First Amendment, as only ‘those statements where the speaker means to communicate a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals.’”
Chancellor Sorensen has not yet responded to FIRE‘s call to end their censorship of Miller’s speech, apologize to Miller, and rescind its request for a meeting about the threat assessment team’s inexplicable concerns.
More than 200 Miller supporters have already written to UW-Stout Chancellor Charles Sorensen, demanding that he respect free speech at UWS.
(H/T: Gawker)




















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Comments (201)
Russman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:47pmSounds like a pinko ******* but I admire his taste in Sci-Fi. Another great Malcom quote is “If somebody tries to kill you…, you try to kill ‘em right back!”
Report Post »beverlee
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:01pmLove it!!! I wanted to capitalize the statement of my support for your good taste in scifi but the blaze does not accept all caps. Can you say censorship? Freedom of speech…freedom to cap!!!
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:17pmFirefly rocked. And passive agression is still agression. Prof was looking for a fight.
Report Post »Emrys
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:45pmThe prof had me in his corner up to the point where he wrote, “and I don’t appreciate card carrying members of the NRA who are wearing side arms and truncheons lecturing me about violence.” I still believe he had the right to post the poster, and that the campus police were wrong to take it down. That is fascistic. However, I do not like the professor’s words in this last quoted message, as it assumed, in a degrading way, that the campus cops must be NRA members.
This story sounds more like fascistic, liberal, campus cops who thought they had caught some conservative faculty member doing something they deemed violent and evil and contrary to the liberality of a college campus, and instead they encountered a fellow liberal pacifist.
Let the sparks fly!
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:50pmjust wanted everyone to know that i am one of those NRA card carrying members, also a national gun rights member, so if anyone wants to report me to attack watch, them please by all means do it,
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:57pmHe doesn‘t get that many cops don’t support the NRA because they don’t need to. They already have the right to carry guns. Some of them want to keep it a monopoly. Dimwits like this prof don’t understand that the NRA is the ENEMY of fascism.
Report Post »TheLeftMadeMeRight
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:06pmWelcome to Madison Wisconsin, where a conservative bumper sticker will 100% guarantee your car will get keyed.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:15pmtheleftmademe right………………………..i live in florida and have a gadsten flag pin on my holster, let them try to remove it !
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:22pmTheLeftMadeMeRight
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:06pm
Welcome to Madison Wisconsin, where a conservative bumper sticker will 100% guarantee your car will get keyed.
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Put a conservative sticker on a liberal’s car. See how they like it :)
Report Post »republic2011
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:32pmAlways an interesting phenomenon when one of these useful idiots gets burned by the very system they are helping create. His reference to the NRA is probably something he likes to espouse in his liberal coffee shop drivel, but the fact of the matter is that the NRA would be the last one to attack his 1st or 2nd amendment rights. His fellow comrades would, and, they just did :-).
Report Post »schroeder123
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:12pmA friend posted this and is worth a read!
Report Post »Little known true story; that my father taught me many years ago; its SOMETHING EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO KNOW WITHOUT QUESTION, told through Ray Whitly……………………Here’s an interesting side bar. After the Japanese decimated our fleet in Pearl Harbor Dec 7, 1941, they could have sent their troop ships and carriers directly to California to finish what they started. The prediction from our Chief of Staff was we would not be able to stop a massive invasion until they reached the Mississippi River . Remember, we had a 2 million man army and war ships……all fighting the Germans. So, why did they not invade? After the war, the remaining Japanese generals and admirals were asked that question. Their answer……they knew that almost every home had guns and the Americans knew how to use them. The world’s largest army… America’s hunters! I had never thought about this…. A blogger added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and arrived at a striking conclusion: There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin .. Allow me to restate that number. Over the last several months, Wisconsin ‘s hunters became the eighth largest army in the world. More men under arms than in Iran .. More than in France and Germany combined. These men deployed to the woods of a single American state to hunt with firearms, and no one was killed. That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods
schroeder123
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:25pmamen brother. I have a RIGHT to carry . This is why we are free (somewhat) until we choose to really be free. WE must give our voice to our elected officials. We have the power. ! YOU are only there for a moment in time !
Report Post »svedka
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:27pmThat qoute was from the woman, the comitted pacifist was it not? Maybe he should just put up that fellow that was threatening to exersize his second ammendment rights on the kid handing out the constitutions….this world has gone mad.
Report Post »Doctor Nordo
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:02pmHey bro, read it more carefully. Walter is the fascist cop that the professor was arguing with.
Report Post »vonkrogh1951
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:10pmI‘m with you and I see more facist activity by liberal yahoo’s like him than gun toten NRA members!
Report Post »mils
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:22pmcommonsenseguy
i’m in liine right behind/beside you on this one…:)
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:04pm@ Schroeder123
Report Post »Nice story, but it seems like an urban legend. Why? Because when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, we were not yet fighting the Germans at all (they declared war on us a couple of days after the Japanese attack). It wasn’t until November or 1942 (about a year later) that our troops saw any sort of action in the European Theatre — and that was actually in North Africa.
HippoNips
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:07pmThe right to bear arms protects against fascism.
Many cops are NRA members because they believe in the citizens’s right to bear arms. Cops that don’t are the fascist enablers.
Report Post »RealAmerican2
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:16pmYou need to re-read the article ~ the professor didn’t make the NRA remark, Police Chief Lisa Walter made that remark to the professor in her 2nd email to him. If you read the article as it was actually written, it may change your mind about what you posted. Just a thought.
RealAmerican2
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:22pmMy bad! I can admit when I’m wrong! I was the one who needed to re-read the article! Sorry!
Report Post »WASTEDROCKRANGER
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:22pmYup, same here.
Come and try and take it commies
Report Post »hoopla
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:54pmBrown coats!!!
Report Post »TRUK62
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:58pmI think you nailed it EMRYS
Report Post »Cat
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:07pm…
OT
Heads up folks …
North Caroline Governor, Democrat Beverly Perdue, suggested the postponement of all state and federal elections for two years.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:35pmSCHROEDER123 your story is BS, get a history book!
Report Post »republitarian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:42pmYep. They thought they found themselves some sorta teabaggger. Joke’s on them. Love for Firefly is universal.
Report Post »WeeeDontNeedNoSteeenkinBadges
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 11:12pmThere’s “liberals” in them thar hills!
Saddle up, space cowboys!
“Space Cowboy – Firefly and Castle”
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRV7uRO9byg
jb.kibs
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 12:03amWelcome to Madison Wisconsin, where a conservative bumper sticker will 100% guarantee your car will get keyed.
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Put a conservative sticker on a liberal’s car. See how they like it :)
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how hilarious would that be… especially if they keyed their own car… :P
Report Post »gwssacredcause
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 8:52amAn adult puts language like this on a poster and it is not violent but a child draws a picture of a gun and gets expelled. The liberals should use some form of reason to see something wrong with that.
Report Post »The Meem
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 9:25amWould this professor respect the right of another professor with a poster depicting ” A pacifist standing by while 6 million Jews were murdered, or the million or so of Rwandans, or how about the 30 million in China under Mao. Or how about the 20 million under Stalin. Or the 50 million or so murdered in this country under something called right of abortion? ” He probably would not be to keen on that.
Report Post »rubydee
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 10:16amJB.KIBS,
Report Post »Keying their own cars. Now I would pay to see that. Very funny!!!
jujubmuse
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 2:17pm@Republitarian “Love for Firefly is Universal.” Quoted for Truth. This story is so ironic.
Report Post »N5DVC
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 3:48pmRest assured, in the last bastion of gun-hating constitution defying Wisconsin, the only people with ‘sidearms’ would be police.
Report Post »Miller is a pinhead on general principle (though he has the right to do so)
Police chief is a pinhead and should be charged with either theft or vandalism for removing his poster.
mindabove
Posted on September 29, 2011 at 3:22pmRegardless of the professor’s ignorant view towards members of the NRA, we can’t afford to have the attitude of “stand back and let the sparks fly” in this sort of situation. If his rights are trampled on then ours will be next.
Report Post »Firebrand
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:39pmI guess someone forgot to kindly remind the professor that you reap what you sow.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:48pmThe University of Wisconsin is the abortion clinic that gave us Progressives, and continues to crap them out at unprecedented numbers. That’s where their god lives. Joel Rogers.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:16pm@The10th
I appreciate you sentiment, but your metaphor is REALLY confused :-)
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:08pm@ Islesfordian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:16pm
@The10th
I appreciate you sentiment, but your metaphor is REALLY confused :-)
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What was really sweet was just months before Greece’s first plunge into the financial abyss, one of Joels student went there to teach the Greece who to make things right for the incompetence legally. Job well done, they took the plunge off the ledge of insanity rather than getting a backbone and standing on their own merit and personal responsibility. High Road Politics at its finest. It’s wonderful and a cozy feeling that Obama is one of that freaks disciples.
yiska8
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:39pmThe poster doesn’t bother me, but police tend to get nervous when anyone other than themselves talk about guns or say the own or have one in their vehicle. Of course they have to put their safety first, but removing the poster was too much. I realize these non-violent pacifist professors are a dime a dozen, and consistenly whine about everything, but he wasn’t inciting anything violent.Of course he’s also the kind of guy you read about who goes postal and never saw coming. I like the Fascism poster better. It reminds me of how this administration deals with people who go against them, verbally of course. Oh wait, I remember, it reminds me of the bully SEIU members who beat up a Tea Partier. Then all charges were dropped against the SEIU bully. Yup, that’s it alright.
“Fear the government that fears your gun.”
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:39pm.
Report Post »It’s a Poster! Ya’ll pull up your panties Nancy…………….
teddrunk
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:34pmUW-Platteville: “Where the me are men, and are the women. “
Report Post »Milkman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:45pmHey I went to UW-Platteville …and I know you did too by your statement above….. But please complete the statement…. “Where the men are men, the women are too, and the sheep are scared!
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:18pmI was gonna add…..
Report Post »….and the cows are nervous!
caleejr
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:33pmI had to laugh at the second poster!
Report Post »alexegz30
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:32pmI remember the show and the quote. It came after the doc said he didn’t trust the captain and thought he would shoot him as soon as his back was turned. The quote illustrates how the captain doesn’t shoot anyone in the back, nor does he shoot unarmed men. He’s no coward, unlike the ones who removed the poster, who find offense in every corner.
Free speech is dying in this country and if the waves of censorship are not held back, we will all see the birth of a new age in oppression.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 8:57pmIt is tragic to see such disrespect for such a great show. But nay nay, as soon as you have anything imitating violence people freak out, just another example of what happens when a bunch of ninnies run the show.
Report Post »republitarian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:53pmOh sure. Posters of Malcom X holding a gun with the quote “By any means necessary” have been a staple on college campuses for forty years.
I like Malcom Reynolds better.
Report Post »Jabber
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 11:27pmRepublitarian-”I like Malcom Reynolds better.”
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmeee too. He’s yummy!
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:31pmUW-Stout Graduate degree in cheese making with a minor in bratwurst.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:29pmWhen you are at your job, you follow their rules. Most of them are an “all or nothing” policy to prevent others from going overboard with nude posters, Nazi membership drives and so on.
At work you meet your employer expectations and your clients…it is not your home.
Report Post »AlmostaCowboy
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:43pmCo-recto-mundo, Almighty. Mind if I call you Al, Al?
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:46pmthat is just the problem, the universities are all p c motivated,so as not to offend, but that has lead to people like him who think that they can do what they want and there is no recourse, and he is right, they will not fire him and they will not censor him, they { the universities } have made their beds and now they must sleep in them, free speech is just that, yes some is offensive,but it is free speech, had this been a conservative professor,they would have claimed he was offending some one or group, and censored him, but liberals, just like race baiters,they will not be censored not matter who they offend. welcome to the new united nations of America, where liberalism rules and nothing else matters, unfortunately
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 12:13pmGood thing MY ‘rights’ come from ALMIGHTY GOD, – NOT the_almighty_creestof!
I have the GOD-GIVEN right to FREE SPEECH where ever and whenever I so choose.
I have the GOD-GIVEN right to CARRY FIREARMS where ever and whenever I so choose.
My employer has the right to fire me, imo, for any reason, including when/if I choose to exercise certain of my rights at the workplace, but that is my choice and theirs.
I may choose to temporarily suspend exercising my rights while at work, but I never give them up.
The problem arises when those who make those rules expect that they MUST be followed at all other times as well.
Just as the military must not follow unjust or unconstitutional orders,…..
I WILL NOT OBEY.
Orders We Will Not Obey
“The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army”
— Gen. George Washington, to his troops before the battle of Long Island
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/03/03/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:26pmI just don’t understand why an “committed pacifist and a devotee of non-violence” would put up a poster like that first one. I think he did it for the reaction and the attention.
Report Post »Part of Alinsky’s rules for Radicals-”the task of agitating: rubbing resentments, fanning hostilities, and searching out controversy”
davuf
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:28pmMaybe he likes the series ‘Firefly.’
Report Post »jenk99
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:47pmHe is probably a VERY dedicated fan to boot, as most Joss Whedon fans are. You can be a pacifist and enjoy every line, even the violent ones, that Joss Whedon writes.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:05pmNever saw Firefly, but I read and collect comic books and have read Joss Whedon’s work.
Report Post »RemasteredBastard
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:20pmTrue. Firefly appeals to a broad cross-section of humanity. It even has Brown-coats.
Report Post »Suzanne
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:48pm@ Anonymous… That’s what I was thinking, also…
Report Post »Ohcomeonnow
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:53pmMaybe because Firefly is kick-ass, and for the record, “Mal shot first”.
Report Post »Citizen7154
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:27pmYeah.. Malcolm Reynolds is a fun character. Its a good, but short series.
Report Post »DanOblak
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:15pmI’ve never watched Firefly; but what I got from what appears on the poster is this: “I will not attack you from behind. I’m man enough to give you the same opportunity to defend yourself that I expect other civilized adults to grant me.” Now I could totally be off — but that didn’t come off as a threat to me at all. Anybody else feeling the same?
Report Post »TheSoundOf Truth
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:03pmThat is one of the all time quotes from the series. So what if he put up a quote from say, Erin Brokovitch? Then what would they say?
It’s a line from a TV/Movie. Ge over it.
Correction: a GREAT line from a GREAT series and GREAT movie.
Report Post »Jabber
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 11:36pmThinkin Ol Mal would say something like “You will keep a civil tongue in that mouth or I will sew it shut. Is there an understanding between us?”
Report Post »rubydee
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 10:26amTHESOUNDOF TRUTH,
Report Post »Didn’t want to watch Firefly but my husband convinced me. Now one of my favorite shows (I guess hubby sometimes is right about something) but I was disappointed when it ended. They put up with no crap. If we the people of the U.S. had this same attitude we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in.
We thought we were one of the few who loved it. We were wrong. Good to know!
capecodsully
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:26pmWhat is it about that poster that fascinates a “committed pacifist and devotee of non-violence”. Why are these wack job pacifists always so violent and angry? Give me a buddy with a calm disposition and a big gun any day. This guy has no respect for authority, and sounds like he could go postal any day now. You are at work bud, maybe you could hang your death threats on your own house, I’m sure your neighbors will love it.
Report Post »tbtall
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:25pmWithout any context as to the purpose of the first poster with the threatening message, how can this dialogue be sorted out? The tone of the initial poster was pretty threatening, and without knowing if this is a movie, a play, or just a snapshot of a discussion, how can this be sorted out. At this point, I am siding with the police chief, but with more context, it might be a different story.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:54pmThe “tone” was pretty threatening? That’s nonsense. The tone of teh poster had nothing to do with a threat. It was all about fair fighting. It was saying “I will only use violence against active and present threats.”
The mere mention of killing in a hypothetical sends some panties into a wad. Geesh.
Report Post »Rogue9
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:05pmContext? The context is a poster of Mal in pilot episode for Firefly. It is the one quote that defines his entire character for the whole series. It’s like having a picture of Darth Vader up with the quote “I am your father!”
Report Post »bhelmet
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:22pmHow dare someone use fascism against a communist.
Report Post »stinkybisquit
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:29pmHm hmhm hmhehe hehehehehe HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Report Post »Mustangdave
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:22pmthis should be interesting to follow…
Report Post »davuf
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:22pmJust another hall monitor Nazi. It’s amazing how much people little people in mundane positions think they have. It’s a poster with a quote defining a character. To think it would incite anyone to violence is stupid. This person at the university overstepped their bounds. Shame on the University for not making amends immediately.
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:21pmThey are starting to eat their own!
There is hope!
Is 2012 near?
tea
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:47pmThey always eat their own.
Report Post »Califmoma5
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:21pmBut don’t let me put aup a poster about the constituiton or the American Flag!
Report Post »shirelover
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:32pmdear God in Heaven! How could you even THINK of doing such a henious crime!!! whoops, I said the G word… ummm I mean… Horrors! How could you even think of … oh never mind, you know what I mean. ;-)
Report Post »Marky_D_Sahdd
Posted on September 28, 2011 at 6:46pmDon’t let them put up a poster with the ten commandments or the national motto! Then the gates of hell will open!
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:20pmUW-Stout, just down the road from UW-Hefty
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 7:26pmDon’t like Stout….eh Ted?
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:07pmLOL…Stout’s fine
Report Post »randy
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:19pmLove his second poster! and Lisa Walter needs to be fired!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:47pmIrony abounds. He doesn’t get that Lisa Walter is but an expression of militant pacifism inherent in PC establishments. I can guarnatee that she is no “card carrying member of the NRA”. Lots of gun carrying officers aren’t. Why would they be. They already have the right to bear arms through their job. Why would they want others to have them?
Report Post »CentralSurvivor
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:17pm“There Will Be Blood”.. There is no fixing the government. The only question is how far up your a** are you willing to let them go. All your life people have told you that violence is not the answer. Care to take a look at history? Care to look at your own government? Care to look at your police? Violence is absolutely, and unequivocally, the ONLY answer. Delude yourself if you want to. Write a letter if you want to. Call your congress critter but “there will be blood”
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:27pmso so true!!!!
Report Post »the stupid americans just need to wake up!
davuf
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:27pmViolence is an answer to several questions. How would you characterize his behavior? Violent. It is also the answer to fascism, communism, terrorism and murderers. It is not a solution to win a debate in a free society. Rights are infringed upon in America but they are not disregarded as a whole. The only force maintaining our rights are the voices of the citizens. Speak up, vote every time and don’t sit down. But now is no where near the time for violence. If it starts it will be destructive for everyone involved and your odds of success are less than 10%. Violence has a tendency of excusing abuse to rights and consolidating power.
Report Post »Marengo Ohio Patriot
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:38pmDAVUF
Report Post »10% uh? what hole did you pull that stat out of?
guess what…freedom was never free….if your not willing to give your blood for it, you do not deserve it!!!!!!!!
davuf
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:07pmYeah… how big is the tea party again? Popularity is not necissarily something people are willing to die for. As a soldier and a gun owner I’m not afraid of violence; but I’m not naive about it either. Freedom’s were abridged in every conflict this country ever fought aside from the Revolutionary War.
A freedom/rights movement should be fought in the hearts and minds of the citizenry. Win arguement and the government through debate and elections. Once the people believe in freedom the government can use controlled violence on the 10% die hard communists and socialists as they break the law and commit treason.
Report Post »TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:56pm@CentralSurv. No comment. @Davuf You are the only post found that is rational and thanks well said.
Report Post »BubbaT
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 10:00pmBravo!
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:17pmFirefly was a great show, alas as all to often really good things on TV tend to get cancelled.
Report Post »davuf
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:31pmGreat show!
Report Post »Vaccaro117
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:31pmYay, someone else who likes Firefly!
Report Post »TunaBlue
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:31pmBloody Great Show!
Report Post »jenk99
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:59pmThat is because Joss Whedon is AWESOME!!! I have not watched Firefly, as I didn’t want to be disappointed when the show ended, as I was with Buffy & Angel.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:25pm“Serenity” was not a proper compensation for Firfly’s abrupt end. Whedon doesn’t do movies very well.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 5:28pmPlus, he ruined the Ravers. They were supposed to be insane in the series, not berzerk. There is a difference. Insane people are still intelligent. They can use their braisn. They just use them in a bent fashion. Berzerk people aren’t really using their brains at all. There is no way the Ravers in the movie could organize themselves into anything, let alone be a threat to the Federation forces.
Report Post »Ohcomeonnow
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 6:08pmLove my “Firefly”!
Report Post »republitarian
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:57pmMy avitar is a screen grab of River’s “instinctive shooting.”
Report Post »Rogue9
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 9:57pmNothing in the verse can stop the signal.
Report Post »ilovethiscountry
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:16pmThat poster is not a threat to anyone. Cops overreaching again!
Report Post »a_lady_patriot
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:15pmI love his fascism sign! I can think of a few others I would post in place of the movie poster.
Report Post »afishfarted
Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:23pmYeah, and I suppose “taxed enough already” will be the next one to be considered violent and threatening
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Posted on September 27, 2011 at 4:15pmwonder who the ”pacifist” was so afraid of he was trying to threaten them off with the firefly poster, to begin with. stupid poster for a college campus, TOO.
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