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WKU Art Prof. Actually Defends ‘Vandalism’ of Pro-Life Cross Display With Condoms as ‘Learning’

Western Kentucky University Pro Life Display Desecrated By Art StudentThere’s a battle brewing at Western Kentucky University between a pro-life group, an art professor and at least one student. Hilltopper’s For Life, a student-led anti-abortion group, is claiming that pupils desecrated and vandalized a pro-life display by putting hundreds of condoms on top of some of the crosses that comprised it.

The display, which had been approved by the university, is now the center of intense debate. A member of Hilltoppers apparently caught Elaina Smith, the offending student, as she and another individual were putting the condoms on top of many of the exhibition’s 3,700 crosses. According to sources within the pro-life group, the student claimed that her actions were part of an art project for her class. When Smith refused to stop desecrating the display, campus police were called.

Here’s where the situation gets interesting. Authorities refused to stop Smith and allegedly said that her actions were permitted by the First Amendment. Even more bizarre is the response that came from art Professor Kristina Arnold. In a statement that was released, she did anything but take a stand against Smith and her actions.

“Learning and debating are not always pretty or polite processes. Critical engagement with ideas can get messy,” she wrote. “If we are asked to introduce our students to all the tools of debate and engagement, they will use these tools. The use and discovery of tools, and the use and discovery of voice is exactly what is occurring on our campus, on both sides of this current discussion.”

Smith, too, is doubling down and defending herself. In an e-mail message that was sent to the pro-life group Students for Life earlier this week, Smith apparently defended her actions:

During the week of April 16th, the Hilltoppers for Life’s pro-life display remained un-interrupted. The student body tolerated this intrusion without major incident. The voice of the pro-life community was heard. On the last day of this event, I attempted to add to the visual dialogue with my own voice and was met with strong resistance. I take this subject very seriously, and had hoped to remind people of the effectiveness of condoms and other forms of contraception in preventing unwanted pregnancies. I do not ask that everyone agree with my point of view or the way in which I tried to express it. However, I stand by my actions. I do not believe that I impeded anyone else’s freedom of expression. I did not break any laws. I did not damage any property. I voluntarily removed the condoms even though I was not required to do so. At the time, I thought that the matter had ended there. I do not feel that I should apologize for attempting to exercise the freedoms that we all are entitled to.

In the letter, Smith is clear about the fact that she doesn’t believe an apology is warranted. Yet, Western Kentucky University President Gary Ransdell released a contradictory statement this week claiming that an apology had been issued by the student (i.e. Smith).

“No member of our University family should impede another member of our family’s freedom of speech or creative effort, especially when it comes to exercising religious freedoms,” Ransdell’s statement read. “The offending student has apologized. This matter has been dealt with properly, decisively, and brought to a conclusion.”

But according to the e-mail that allegedly came from Smith, she feels no need to apologize. Naturally, Hilltopper’s For Life is flabbergasted that the situation has unfolded as such. With the professor purportedly defending Smith and with the university seemingly attempting to put a stop to the rhetoric surrounding the situation, the group is standing up for its rights. Starnes has more:

The Hilltoppers For Life are now represented by the Alliance Defense Fund. They’ve sent a letter to the university demanding answers and an official apology.

“It appears that several WKU officials knew this vandalism would occur, did nothing to stop it, and allowed it to continue,” wrote attorney Travis Barham. “Our clients were exercising their First Amendment rights, and it is the duty of WKU officials to protect those freedoms, not passively allow them to be violated.”

The Alliance Defense Fund sent a list of eight demands to the university. In addition to a public apology, they also want to know who purchased and supplied Smith with 3,700 condoms. They also want assurances that the student will be punished for her act of vandalism.

With the school claiming that the situation has been put to rest, but will Hilltoppers still pushing for resolution, it’s likely further discussion will be taking place in the coming days.

(H/T: Fox News)

Comments (89)

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  • deadend
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:45pm

    Elaina Smith good arguement for condom use, too bad her parents weren‘t taught in pubic school to put them on banana’s.

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    • pavepaws
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 5:58pm

      I hope Professor Arnold is so open minded when her own “projects” are subjected to First Amendment rights. Turn about is fair play. Arnold has made the rules.

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  • DeavonReye
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:17pm

    Some “freedoms of speech” are just tacky.

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    • Macman1138
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:30pm

      This is where I graduated from in 1983 and I am ashamed of what WKU has become.
      And this, among other reasons, is why I do NOT give the university any money!

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    • IronSights
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 4:38pm

      “I attempted to add to the visual dialogue with my own voice”

      So in the future, if you disagree with someone you can use your own “visual dialogue” and your “own voice”. In this case was a physical action (application of condoms on the display). Sounds like we can smack someone upside the head (visual dialogue the red mark on their head, own voice your hand) for having a position we don’t agree with.

      I’m good with it.

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    • Sh3LLz
      Posted on April 30, 2012 at 9:35am

      @IRONSIGHTS

      Your reasoning is exactly why so called “christians” are marginalized. Always resorting to physical violence and assault. Thats exactly how radical muslims think.

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  • ProChoiceDude
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:56am

    As a student who attends the “leftist” university in question, I was searching for articles that might provide factual information and keep me up to date on the current situation. This is not one of them. The situation this article describes is almost entirely misrepresented.

    Please do not advocate violence as a means to any solution. It’s dangerous. No one assaulted the pro life students when they were voicing their own views.

    Please educate yourself on the actual facts before jumping to conclusions. It makes you look foolish when you don‘t know what you’re talking about.

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    • SAVAGEONE
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:21pm

      And where are the “Factual” stories located ??? NY Times, L.A. Times.. WKU University Newsletter… The University Funded Student newspaper…

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    • Starknerd
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:27pm

      ProLife Dude,

      If you know these words to be false then you must know some facts already. Please, enlighten us.

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    • ProChoiceDude
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:44pm

      Fact: Smith removed the condoms immediately after she took pictures for her class as proof of completing the assignment.

      Fact: Smith waited until the last night of the week long display to carry out her actions. Had she wanted, she could’ve done the same thing but in the middle of the day in front of everyone, but she chose to act with discretion.

      Fact: The pro life students present at the display when the so called “desecration” was taking place stated that they were fine with her actions as long as she cleaned up after herself.

      Fact: Smith’s statement was not motivated by pro abortion sentiment. She was attempting to make a statement about the value of condoms and other contraceptives in preventing unwanted pregnancies that might lead to abortions.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:58pm

      FACT: I attempted to add to the visual dialogue with my own voice and was met with strong resistance.
      FACT: I voluntarily removed the condoms even though I was not required to do so.
      FACT: I do not feel that I should apologize for attempting to exercise the freedoms that we all are entitled to.
      Her own email.

      So Pro you are a liar. I guess you forgot to read that part. And I really don’t you went to WKU.

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    • ProChoiceDude
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:19pm

      @ COFEMALE

      I’m not sure how any of your facts contradict mine. The “strong resistance” she refers to is probably the fact that she had the cops called on her. After the police established that they couldn’t prevent her from acting, they stayed around to ensure that she cleaned up after herself. The pro life students called the cops, but once it was established that she was going to remove the condoms they didn’t do anything else.

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    • Alessandre
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 5:50pm

      I do hope you take a logic course at some point in your university career. Calling the police is an action that says, I object. Ms. Smith states that there was strong objection so at least she seems to have a minimal understanding of what strong objection is. You seem to require violence or some similar action before such recognition. Did it occur to her to gain permission as Hilltoppers For Life did? I see no mention of that “fact.” Had she sought permission, HFL might have told her they objected to her desecrating the Cross once they could speak again – a request to desecrate the Cross tends to shock Christians. And she wasn’t even desecrating her own Cross! You have no understanding of what the Cross means to Christians. That’s another thing you might want to learn. At a minimum, Ms. Smith interfered w/ other student’s freed exercise of religion & freedom of speech. That is also a fact she doesn’t admit. A fact she seems to think is no big deal. I feel very sorry for you both. You’re unable to empathize, have impaired judgement & deadened sensibilities. The real fact is you‘re like children who haven’t reached the age of reason, like children whose souls & consciences have not yet been formed. You need to find a school that will help you grow up before you find yourself fired or behind bars because the facts of the real world don’t correspond to what you think is no big deal. Wake up! Desecrating another person’s Cross is a big deal! Desecrating any Cross is a b

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    • Alessandre
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 6:04pm

      sorry, “strong resistance” &, by the way, vandalism is a crime.

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  • paperpushermj
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:55am

    who purchased and supplied Smith with 3,700 condoms.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    .
    They most likely came from the personal stash of the Art Teacher

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  • Johann
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:49am

    Strange how the new symbol for the Americanized Obama leftists is the condom. The Christian cross has now been replaced by the condom cross in the American State. The good news is that this generation of American Leftist will become extinct soon; but not soon enough.

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    • Centurian
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:45pm

      It is the perfect analogy for the Obama regime: the condom.

      Funded by the taxpayers with one intent and purpose: to screw another without creating anything that is positive or will last.

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    • Alessandre
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 6:02pm

      w/o creating anything at all; even pleasure ebbs when that’s all one is seeking.

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  • Rayblue
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:46am

    Vandalism is mostly all they know. It extends from the psychological deformity of the childs desire to punish the father and please the mother. Which in assumed adulthood plays out in defacing a male representational object with a Freudian symbol of non-procreation. The cross only represents the male in that it is in their sight in the traditionally ancient archetypical form of the tau. Take away the power of the father and give it to themselves to please the mother. It’s easy to analyze their motives with the simplest tools of infant psychoanalysis.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:05pm

      Or their just narcissistic Leftist.
      .
      {but isn’t that redundant}

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    • Rayblue
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:21pm

      I do go on.

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    • Centurian
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:47pm

      Ray, why analyze…

      what ever happened to just calling someone CRAZY?!

      The left are better implied as being like a bowl of Grapenuts Cereal: what ain’t fruits and nuts are flakes!

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  • Cavallo
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:15am

    Vandalism is freedom of speech? Or is it only certain vandalism is freedom of speech, especially if the authorities support that vandalism?

    Cavallo  
    • ProChoiceDude
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:32am

      What the article fails to mention is the fact that after she had taken pictures for her art class, Smith voluntarily removed all the condoms herself. Her actions were carried out only hours before the WEEK LONG display was to be taken down and caused no permanent damage to anyone’s property. The police officers on scene stayed to make sure that she removed the condoms, but thankfully they realized that because she was not damaging the display in a permanent way, her right to free speech was just as legitimate as the pro life students.

       
    • encinom
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:42am

      @ProChoiceDude

      This is the Blaze, don’t expect fair or ture reporting. This site is for one thing, emotional, knee jerk reactions from paranoid and hate filled “christians” and tea baggers.

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    • booger71
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:42am

      She could have put up her own display without vandalizing some one elses, Dude

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:38pm

      @encinom
      The Blaze is also a magnet for trolls to cruise through, dropping inflammatory posts just for the sport
      and seeing the reaction for what you have done.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:04pm

      So Pro, because this was an Art assignment, that made it okay? Are you for real?

      So give me your address in Kentucky and I will come and show you my free speech at your home. Would that be okay?

      Encinom, you wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped you in the face. All you care about is whether someone impedes your free speech. You don’t give a rat patooty about anyone else free speech. You are right, everyone else is wrong in your pea brain.

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    • tzion
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 3:35pm

      @prochoicedude
      Did you read the article? It says that explicitly. Why don‘t you actually read the article before telling us what isn’t in it.

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    • Dr. Joel Fleischman
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:08pm

      Encinom- what smoking pot and scarfing down Cheetoes will do to you.

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  • Pontiac
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:57am

    [desecrated and vandalized a pro-life display by putting hundreds of condoms on top of some of the crosses that comprised it.]
    Maybe this is why women’s contraceptive expenses are so high. But it still in no way justifies government picks up that tab. In fact this further proves why it should not.

    [Authorities refused to stop Smith and allegedly said that her actions were permitted by the First Amendment]
    Since when did the First Amendment protect you when you “vandalize” other peoples property?

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  • G-WHIZ
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:52am

    How-bout…we just go to your property…after-all, it’s visible from the “public” street…and cover your house-etc with condoms…Don”t Complain…It’s free speach…YOU SAID SO about your “display”.

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  • HorseCrazy
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:50am

    disgusting. colleges are for higher learning which these days means nothing. these kids cannot get jobs because they are taught by leftists and trained in the ways of communism instead of learning how to be self sufficient they are taught to apply for their free money grants and loans and become dependant and in debt from the 1 day, we have got to stop funding this madness and open colleges for those who actually want a career, not a liberal indoctrination.

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    • ProChoiceDude
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:45am

      Kids can’t get jobs because the generation before us managed to take the foremost economy in the world and ruin it. We’ve been told all our life to aspire to something more than flipping burgers, but when we graduate with $50,000 in debt, the same people chastise us for “being to proud” to accept a job at the local McDonalds.

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    • Ne_FAL
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:58am

      Wrong prochoicedude You do not have the right to tamper with ,modify , alter without permission of the owners of a art display . The word permission is the key word . What was done was politically motivated vandalism condoned by university staff & protected by the dirty university cops the fact that several instructors were in on it can be prosecuted as conspiracy to violate civil right under color of authority & I hope it gets that far in the legal system.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:16pm

      Yeah, Pro you are a tried and true Liberal blame everyone else, but yourself.

      Everybody, but you is at fault.
      We made you go to college and pay the rates.
      We made you take Liberal Arts rather than get a degree that hires.
      We made you wake up in the morning.
      We made you go to sleep at night.
      We made you open a credit card account.
      We made you do everything you are doing today.

      Please tell me what else am I making you do that is not your fault?

      Times are tough for everyone, not just you kids. You need to recognize right now the Obama policies are not working – we have proof; I am not sure Republicans will do better, but I have greater hope with them. I’ve been struggling since 2010, I am 60. I don’t blame everyone else for my situation. I have choices. The choices I make will be good ones or bad ones.

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    • Alessandre
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 6:26pm

      @Prochoicedude, loans are your choice. Many work their way through school. Why don’t you? (I worked my way through Barnard & Columbia so I’m not talking cheap or easy.) M parents died when I was 5 & I was left w/ nothing & no one so I worked hard in school. As a teen, I stayed in an abusive foster-family because I knew changing school districts meant being trapped for the rest of my life so I stayed & got into an Ivy League school. I worked my way up from a paralegal to a case manager & finally earned more than most associates – I’ve pulled week long over-nighters because that’s what my job required. Right now I’m disabled but I derive my income from a disability policy I paid for while I was healthy. I pay for my own health insurance though it’s 1/4 of my income. At the same time I’m planning for a new career that will allow me to rest when I must but earn enough to live comfortably. As far as I’m concerned, as long as I can use my mind & have the grace of God, I can earn a living. Complaining feels good for 5 minutes but isn’t worth much, Living & working are more fun. Don‘t decide you won’t have a job. Make sure you can do much as as possible & be willing to work hard. Remember, this is the USA & you can build a life for yourself. Past generations, other people have inherited much worse than you. Just work hard, trust God & learn the difference between right & wrong. What Ms. Smith did was wrong. If you don’t know that, there‘s not much hope you’ll succeed at

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  • MammalOne
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:46am

    Nothing to see here but freedom of speech.

    Next.

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    • JGraham III
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:15am

      I wholeheartedly agree! But, O Cosmopolitan One….you must also agree that “art” is in the eye of the beholder and of course the enlightened professor would have no offense if someone were to write their comments across the face of her ‘best’ work. Freedom of Speech after all..

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  • RANGER1965
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:44am

    Folks,

    It always comes down to force. Who has the chops and the endurace to keep on fighting? Answer that question and nine times outa ten you can predict the winner of almost any battle.

    Where does one person right‘s stop and another’s begin? Who determines it, and do they have the power to back it up.

    These were all lessons we learned as children on the playground, but the hustle bustle of the “Real World” makes us forget these fundamental lessons. That after all the fine words and admiration of civilization, in the end; we are still on that same gradeschool playground.

    Jackals, bullies, and mockers are rising like a swarm in this age. They respect nothing, but they do fear the strong, and the pain the strong can deliver them.

    Face them squarely, fight back and they will run like the cowards they are. It’s always been this way. They puff up, and bluster dire warnings. They promise all kinds of calamity, but when the moment of truth comes…nada.

    “The Long Night is Coming”

    RANGER

    The rules might have been forgotten, but they are as immutable as human nature.

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  • cannon12pdr
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:39am

    Sound like the “prof” needs a lesson in art like a large dumptruck load from a local dairy in her driveway. I would call it “ART de DUNG”.

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  • grimmy
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:10am

    When people start putting beat downs ,or worse on these low lifes,then this crap will stop I ask once again, when will people stand up,or are we all cowards……..

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:26am

      I have to agree. Clearly there is zero leadership at the University. If anything, the professors who mentioned “Critical engagement” was openly advocating that communist students had a right to violently oppose the non-Communists.

      If the American students at that University don’t stand up for themselves, no one else is going to do it.

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    • trix
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:56am

      I totally agree … I am patently against violence and always have been … on the other hand, all this is coming to critical mass shortly ( 2 to 4 years ) … I will fight back … so V. Jones, Sharpton, Holder, Obama, Pelosi, Biden, D.W. Shultz, Bashir Etc. … be careful what you wish for … you are going to get it … believe it … we will not go quietly …

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  • grannyjojo
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:08am

    Numerous problems here. 1. Vandalizing and desecration of a college sanctioned project. 2. Turning the statement of the project into an UNWANTED statement. 3. Interfering with a 1st amendment right. 4. Allowing a teacher to CONDONE and HELP with interference of a 1st amendment right instead of their duty to UPHOLD this right. And it is very curious who suppied this girl with the 3,700 condoms to desecrate the project. Condoms aren’t expensive but that many cost someone a bundle…..therefore I doubt the student paid for the condoms. What it boils down to is that when someone stands for pro-life, pro-christian they are NOT allowed the same priviledges that the OTHERSIDE is allowed. I am proud to say that I am considered by the otherside a “hater” because I stand with the Lord. This is going to continue to worsen, the Bible predicts it….man can’t stop it…..and in the end the LORD will REIGN forever and ever. I pray for the souls of the unredeemed. Lord, come quickly. “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess”

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:04am

    Perhaps someone could put a picture of Obama holding a scaple in one hand and a condom in the other hand standing next to a pregnant woman. Would that be a pro-abortion, pro-choice ad? What is good for one should be good for the other. A cross represents Jesus, so Obama is president and much lower in importance than Jesus, so no offense should be taken, right, since he is the most pro-abortion, pro contraception president in history.

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  • momsense
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:04am

    Everyone except Conservatives or Christians that is.

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  • Joisey
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 9:59am

    I hope this Jackass remembers her rationale when a mob tars and feathers her. Hey, they are just engaging in freedom of expression.

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  • Chromo200
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 9:56am

    I hope the university gets sued and looses it’s shirt. Ms. Smith is doing this for publicity hoping it will lead to a fancy job with a left leaning organization. Her prospects of making a living doing art is poor so she comes up with is stunt.

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  • biohazard23
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 9:56am

    3700 condoms? But according to Sandra Sl*t, er, I mean FLUKE, aren’t we to believe that women are being denied access to contraceptives? I guess Ms Smith didn’t get that memo……

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:11am

      She probably got the 3700 condoms from Planned Abortion (Parenthood) so WE got to pay for her vandalism.

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  • Kitkarr
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 9:46am

    I guess I’m confused here, what is the “attack?” Don’t condoms help prevent unwanted pregnacies and in turn prevent abortions? The 2 problems I see are the question that was brought up about who supplied 3,700 condoms (that would be nice to know, and would be another subject altogether) and the image of prophylactics atop crosses (that’s a more than a little disturbing).

    Though I don’t agree with draping sexually related items across crosses, I fail to see how it is anti-pro-life. She should probably put up her own crosses with condoms instead of using someone else’s display, though.

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    • Action-Not-Just_Words
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:18am

      When you literally desecrate a religious symbol… that pretty much can be considered an attack. While God can take care of himself… the right to peaceful protest by the pro-life students should not be so arrogantly disrupted by an dim wit and supported by those in power…

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    • Kitkarr
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:52pm

      Agreed that condoms do not belong on crosses, but if we ascribe so much importance to “religious symbols,” at what point do they become idols? And isn’t this whole debate over pro-choice vs. pro-life? There was no attack on either as far as I could tell. That‘s why I’m confused about the “debate” here. If it’s about destroying religious symbols, it makes more sense, but if its something about pro-choicers spouting off again, it isn’t very clear to me.

      The way it appears to be, is that a person or group of people set up a display in remembrance of all of those children that are selfishly thrown out with the trash every day, and then someone not involved with the original person or group of people added to the display. This, at the very most, is messing with someone’s property, property that very well could be considered private. Maybe I don‘t understand the condom weilding menace’s true intentions.

      I am Christian, so I do not like the image of a condom on a cross, but at the same time, I am not very comfortable with the image of a cross to begin with. It’s slippery ground when one starts bowing to it and kissing it and things of that nature. Just to be quite honest, I don’t even like the fact that most pulpits are higher than the pews. It’s all a bit heady to me.

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  • MBA
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 9:43am

    The only learning going on here is disrespect and intolerance. What a disgusting commentary on education.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 9:38am

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    Miss Smith should be made the schools conjugal visit girl till the condoms are gone……..

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    • ProChoiceDude
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 11:36am

      What the article doesn’t mention is the fact that SHE REMOVED THE CONDOMS IMMEDIATELY AFTER SHE HAD TAKEN PICTURES FOR HER ART CLASS. For you to suggest that anyone should be violated in a sexual nature as punishment for personal expression is as sick as it is terrifying.

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 12:19pm

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      @PROCHOICEDUDE

      Just think of it as Art, we could even take pictures………

      I was just thinking like a Liberal……Now I have to go wash my brain……

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    • Alessandre
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 6:42pm

      @Prochoicedude, you’re right, @Spankdamonkey is wrong to suggest sexually violating Ms. Smith. And you’re wrong. You really must take a course in logic & rhetoric. You imply that because Ms. Smith removed the condoms immediately, she has not committed a crime. She did. Vandalism is a crime. You also imply that “personal expression” is not a reason to sexually violate Ms. Smith. Your argument is she only expressed herself & doesn’t deserve such harsh treatment. You fail to say that no one deserves to be sexually violated. Perhaps that‘s why you can’t accept Ms. Smith’s actions were wrong. Have you asked yourself why she did not seek permission to engage in “self expression”? The HLF sought & gained permission. Does your school have such a requirement &, if so, does if make an exception for those engaging in “self expression”? @Spankdamonkey was being coarse & boorish but I‘m sure he’d be right there protecting Ms. Smith if anyone did try to sexually violate her. Still, his remark is terrifying & I’m glad you know it. But it‘s also terrifying that you don’t understand right from wrong, that it’s wrong to vandalize & desecrate another group’s possession, that it’s against the law. You need to grow up & develop your conscience. HLF received permission. Why didn’t Ms. Smith?

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  • barber2
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 9:35am

    Can a society , which allows wide personal freedoms , survive if many of its citizens are anarchists, nihilists, and narcissists ?? That is the question.

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  • momrules
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 9:33am

    Maybe Smith just used her year supply of condoms for her project.

    All kidding aside this is the typical hypocricy of the left. If a pro-murder(abortion) group had had their display vandalized by a pro life group they would be suing and screaming and stamping their little liberal feet in self-righteous anger.

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