Woman Commits Suicide in Car, Posts ‘Danger! Chemicals Inside! Call 911′ Signs on Window
- Posted on June 6, 2011 at 7:54pm by
Billy Hallowell
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — The suicide of a young woman in the Hollywood Hills might have seemed just another sad Tinseltown story but for large notes plastered on the window of the car in which she died: “Danger! Chemicals Inside! Call 911.”
Police and coroner’s investigators had seen this before — three or four times in the past year — and they knew the danger was real to them and the neighborhood. Had the chemical cloud escaped from the car with people nearby, many others could have died, according to authorities. An evacuation of residents was contemplated but never carried out.
Equally troubling was the fact that directions for the chemical suicide method, first publicized in Japan, were obtained from an easily accessible website through which the woman formed a suicide pact with a stranger who backed out at the last minute.
Police Detective Kevin Becker said 23-year-old Ana Gutierrez, an unemployed resident of suburban Culver City, had formed an online friendship with the man in a suicide chat room.
“She had financial problems and couldn’t find work. Both of them had some issues and they decided it was time to go,” Becker said.
From information provided by the man, whom Becker refused to identify, the two decided to use a method described on the suicide site. It involved mixing chemicals into a toxic brew that when released would kill anyone in the vicinity instantly.
“I’ve seen plenty of suicides but not like this,” said Becker, who went to the scene on the morning of May 23.
Someone who had seen this sort of thing before was Los Angeles County coroner’s spokesman Ed Winter, who also went to the upscale neighborhood not far from the Hollywood Bowl.
“That was our third or fourth one in 12 to 15 months,” Winter said. “They originally popped up overseas. The most publicized one was in Japan where a porn star posted that she was going to do it and she did.”
Winter said his office has been aware of the website, which gives instructions for a mixture of chemicals including hydrogen sulfide, which was used in the Hollywood case. He said the mixture is incredibly lethal.
“One big breath, and boom. That’s it,” Winter said.
He said there were about six bottles of chemicals in the car where the woman was found.
Ana Gutierrez
For officers working the case, it brought back memories of a 2009 incident in Pasadena. A shopping center was evacuated after a 23-year-old man carried out a similar suicide, posting notes on the outside of a car with a skull and crossbones warning of chemical dangers. In that case, the car was locked in 100-degree heat but there were no injuries to officers who wore protective gear to open it.
Winter said coroner’s investigators have learned of about 35 cases nationwide in the past two years of people killing themselves in a similar way. The common link is the use of lethal chemicals in an enclosed space, usually a car, and the signs posted to warn that there is a potential for a larger catastrophe if the poisons are released into the area.
While most suicides affect only the deceased and their families, these cases have the potential to kill strangers.
According to Becker’s reconstruction of the incident, Gutierrez and the man met up in Hollywood, had some food and quite a bit of alcohol.
“He told us he couldn’t hold his liquor and he got sick,” said Becker. “He got out of the car and stumbled away. No way would he have been alive if he had stayed in the car.”
Becker said the man wandered away, then came back later to check on the woman and found her dead. He walked to a nearby hotel and called 911. Becker said the man mentioned the notes on the car referring to a chemical, and police raced to the scene followed by a Fire Department hazardous materials crew in protective suits.
“Coincidentally, the hazmat officers had done a training exercise on chemical suicides the week before,” he said. “If they didn’t know about it, the officers could have been injured.” And if anyone had opened the door while the chemical was active, he said they could have been killed.
As it turned out, the door was open and the woman had fallen out on the passenger side of the car, he said. By the time authorities arrived, the fumes were dissipating.
“This is a do-it-yourself method,” Becker said. “It forms a toxic cloud.” Once released from the enclosed space, it dissipates quickly, he said.
Police and fire officials cordoned off the area around the scene for several hours and warned residents about a possible evacuation, but it wasn’t necessary.
“It was very unnerving,” said Mike Chessler, a TV writer who lives near where the car was parked. “I looked outside and saw a police car blocking my garage and the body was lying across the street between the car and the curb. And then there were suddenly so many people here.”
Chessler said he suspected the woman and man might have been the same people he saw about a month earlier sitting on a curb across the street from his home.
Becker said he didn’t know why they chose the location. The case remains under investigation, he said, and the woman’s distraught parents were being interviewed.
FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller said the bureau has been made aware of the Hollywood incident but has no direct involvement.
“We collect intelligence on these incidents, clearly because of the potential for criminal or terrorist uses,” she said.
Attorney Douglas Mirell, who has handled cases involving Internet crimes, said the only way for someone to try to shut down the website would be to find the internet service provider for the website and investigate whether the website operator is violating the ISP’s terms of service contract.
The website operators, however, may be protected from prosecution because they are neither encouraging nor discouraging suicide. Nor are they selling the ingredients for the chemical mixture.
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Comments (88)
NuffSaid
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:40pmI thought it was interesting the to suicide kit comes in a six pack. Do they include the warning stickers for the car windows too?
Report Post »GaGirl35
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 2:09amI thought it was interesting that two people that had no jobs or money….had the money to go out drinking, where they drank TOO MUCH $$$$….had the money to buy chemicals….had the money for gas….had the money for lunch….had a car….had any money at all….went to a public area….thought to put up signs to warn people of chemicals…drunk people don’t think, I used to drink, especially really drunk people that are puking sick and broke…..hmmmm….sounds like they had some money to me and something to live for….. OR something isn’t right about this story. It looks like a cover up to me. I am guessing people will just start falling out soon and they will call it massive suicides……something is very fishy here. It stinks bad!!!!
Report Post »God bless.
BrianA
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:39pmif these people are going to kill themselves why do they take their car to a public place were it might kill other people to?
Sad yet pathetic.
Brian
Report Post »chips1
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 11:23pmHave you seen the prices they charge in Los Angeles for private parking lots? Public parking is the way to go.
Report Post »karenm
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:37pmThat comment by Miss America speaks volumes. She said the story didn’t matter and lets move on. I am sure people who knew this woman realized at some point she needed help but decided to move on. This is an important story. Would you rather be talking about Weiner?
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:35pmPS – Patty, I’ll accept an apology any time.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 5:40amShe obviously missed the bottom line that indicated it was a quote. Doh!!
She sure did jump on your case though! haha
Report Post »flsnipe
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:29pmGood way to be selfish and kill some one else while your offing your self! My agency has responded to a couple of these we had extensive training its crazy to put that much effort into it when you can just do it the old fashion way.
Report Post »PurrrpleMtnMajesty
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:19pmI don’t condone suicide, but this was potentially more than suicide. Seriously, what’s the difference between her and a suicide bomber? Yes, there was a warning, but what if someone had not handled it correctly and many would have been killed. Wow…what on earth is this country coming to.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 5:38amWell first of all, let’s begin with intent. The sole purpose of a suicide bomber is to take down as many others as you can. Clearly a significant difference here as this woman posted warnings to prevent further deaths.
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:04pmHow sad for her and her family! Depression is real and kills!! With the state of the economy and the world……………lots more where she came from:(
Report Post »lonewolf57
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:02pmSuicides are meaningless enough in the good times and will be even more common in the coming hard times,the rates are probably rising exponentially is this economy.As ConservativeMomofFour said,…….”have strong souls to fight this evil as long as we are on the right side (god’s side) we will make it through and it’s going to be tough but, do not lose hope, i love you all friends and enemies, may god be with you, each and everyone of us.”
Report Post »LastAmerican
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:58pmWell at least they warned with signs on the car. What a shame.
Report Post »OLDEMTNOH
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:53pmand you wondered why they prohibited liquids on a plane.
Report Post »ConservativeMomofFour
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:40pmpeople are losing hope, they can not see the light at the end of the tunnel (so to speak) anymore. i can not believe they actually have a suicide website, how evil, where is the responsibility, or just the common decency to not have a website like this. what is this world coming to? god will see us through all things please do not lose hope, things may seem difficult and we are surrounded by so much evil in these latter days, but we all chose to come here to live in these times, to be born when we were born because we have strong souls to fight this evil as long as we are on the right side (god’s side) we will make it through and it’s going to be tough but, do not lose hope, i love you all friends and enemies, may god be with you, each and everyone of us.
Report Post »Ira WIlson
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:37pmReply to THEGREYPIPER:
An Israeli diplomat wsa about to give a speech to the General Assembly at the United Nations.
He began : ‘Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Moses: When he struck the rock and it brought forth water, he thought, ‘What a good opportunity to have a bath!’
Moses removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock and entered the water. When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Palestinian had stolen them!
The Palestinian representative at the UN jumped up furiously and shouted, ‘What are you talking about? The Palestinians weren’t there then.’
The Israeli representative smiled and said, ‘And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech..’.
True story.
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:26pmCute!
Report Post »@ Coyote2
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 10:01pmHaving lived with them, Moses would have known it was a worthless lying greedy thieving jew parasite anyway.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 5:35amRacist much?
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:30pmA sad story. This economy DID NOT HAVE TO HAPPEN. It was caused by SOCIALIST POLITICS and will take many more lives before it is ended!
Report Post »@ Coyote2
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:54pmYes and it’s called the “FEDERAL RESERVE” and there is NOTHING “Federal” about it. It’s 100% greedy parasitic jew banks. They create money out of thin air and borrow it out at usury. Jesus threw the greedy bastards out of the temple once for this. I believe He will do it again, SOON!
Report Post »@ Coyote2
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:54pm@GREYPOOPER
Tell me where that’s wrong!!!
Report Post »Mikhail Kennedy
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 10:53pmCoyote
Report Post »You always gotta bring in your Jew hatred into every story. Get a life you loser.
Allah is Satan and Mohamed is his demon.
Miss America
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:26pmOk, kill yourself with a car full of chemicals. A tragic story, but do we really not have more important things to focus on? I don’t mean to sound cold-hearted, but, there are bigger things occuring here. It’s sad to be sure, but let’s cry for a second and move on.
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:17pmThink this is Miss Arabic!
Report Post »Chappy123
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:22pmWhat a shame.
Report Post »caexpat
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:21pmPeople make choices, most of them bad, some worse then others….This was her choice..to bad!
Report Post »NOTYERHUCKLEBERRY
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:19pmTragic incident. I fail to see what is so bad as to take one’s own life.
Report Post »I guess a bullet, rope or cliff isn’t good enough any more. We must put others in danger. That would be murder, wouldn’t it?
Amazing what one can find on the net. I love it. It is wild and wooly, just like the old west. Let someone censor one part, and the whole thing in gone.
Aaron in Polk County
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:18pmAnother tax payer lost, oh wait, she was a moocher. no lose. nothing to see here. move along.
Report Post »Navyveteran
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:11amAaron that isn’t evern remotely funny. This is why this country is going down the crapper because there is no importance to a humans life anymore. This is a sad tragedy I hope and pray that ppl will pray and talk to God before committing suicide.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:12pmI had no idea ppl were killing themselves this way.
If its that easy to get ahold of these chemicals, whats to stop Al Qaida from using this method on us?
Report Post »InversionTheory
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:52pmThe ingredients are common household items… Heck, just mixing bleach and ammonia will do the trick. Nothing can stop terrorists from using method, unless we want to give up household cleaners…Or perhaps we can treat anyone who pays too much attention in chemistry class like a terrorist.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 5:31amInversion… BINGO!
Report Post »We could all be a bunch of 2 years olds, putting safety plugs in the light sockets and using rubber knives too!
The government wants to babysit us but the terrorists have endless means to kill if they chose. You can’t prevent everything but somehow we keep finding new ways to hinder our lives in the name of security.
one yrs. food ration like Glenn says..
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 7:22am@CHIEFGEORGE.. I see a future liberal EPA brewing inside of you… Go and rehash your conservative ideology, otherwise you may end up fighting for laws that ban everyday under the kitchen sink cleaning items.. You wouldn’t want that would you ?
Report Post »Brasil2520
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:08pmThats an option for Weiner
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:05pmFunny you mention that.
During his press conference, when Weiner reached under the lecture, I thought he might be reaching for a manilla envelope and pull a Budd Dwyer.
Budd Dwyer sure knew how to end a press conference.
Report Post »USAqh
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:07pmgo with the Lord … tragic
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:06pmAll we can do is hope that Weiner will follow suit.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:18pmThere are several “elected officials” who should follow suit, not just Captain Winkie.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:19pmDon’t be dumb Heavy!
Report Post »Maine932
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:40pmLol
Report Post »@ Coyote2
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:43pmAmen to that. It would be a betterment for all mankind.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 1:15am@Biohaz…
That’s CONGRESSMAN Captain Winkie to you :)
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:06pmCalifornia
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:48pmYeah, create some jobs…Trump for President!!!!…Bring back manufacturing, and companies home. All the rest of the candidates are the same when it comes to creating jobs(free market, small jobs)…If your retired then who cares right??? This country has 5-6 years to create massive jobs for the people in this country and not from around the world. If not, then get ready for a revolution. Just a word of advice.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 11:06pmInstead of issuing food stamps, why don’t they issue…….web site info? It’s a obamacare thing.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 7:59pmA suicide chat room?
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:26pmThat’s what I said exactly when I was reading this story .
Report Post »NuffSaid
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:38pmYep, room for one more…
Report Post »InversionTheory
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:53pmInternet Relay Chat (IRC) has channels for everything you can imagine…and some you can’t.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 5:25amNuffsaid… seems to be always room for one more because the newcomers keep checking out.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 7:57pm“Poverty is the worst form of violence.” -Mahatma Gandhi
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:15pm“I do not consider Hitler to be as bad as he is depicted. He is showing an ability that is amazing and seems to be gaining his victories without much bloodshed.”
“Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and in-human to impose the Jews on the Arabs.”
-M. Gandhi
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:18pmHear thou, my son, and be wise, and guide thine heart in the way. Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh: For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:19pm“She had financial problems and couldn’t find work. Both of them had some issues and they decided it was time to go,” Becker said.
I wonder who we can blaim for this????
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:29pmThey both had “quite a bit of alcohol”…Hmmm, how do we know he didn’t kill her with it and is coming up with this story to cover it up?
When they show proof that she purchased any of the chemicals or left a not of some kind…then I would rule this a suicide and close the case.
Report Post »Mannax
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 8:49pm@THEGREYPIPE
Lets put this quote in context shall we, though I am guessing that you don’t want it to be taken in context.
“I do not want to see the allies defeated. But I do not consider Hitler to be as bad as he is depicted. He is showing an ability that is amazing and seems to be gaining his victories without much bloodshed. Englishmen are showing the strength that Empire builders must have. I expect them to rise much higher than they seem to be doing.” M. Gandhi. 1940
This quote was done during the Blitz in Europe, before the major battles in WW2 (and the bombing of England) and was compared with the bloodshed of WW1. Also, this quote was done before it was found out in 1945 that Hitler was carrying out genocide on the Jews.
As for the other quote, it obviously came after WW2. Though in your attempt to quote in reverse order, I sense you are trolling in an attempt to say Gandhi was anti-semitic. You are a sad person.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:25pmGREY PIPER …you are full of it. THERE IS NO COUNTRY called PALESTINE. DOPE. and hot shot: Jews have lived there as long as ARABS have. JEWS were JEWS before Muslims were Muslims…like by more than 4700 years. THEY LIVED THERE IN PEACE with CHRISTIANS until fools like ARAFAT and Hamas etc. kept stirring up their ENSLAVED people and TOOK ALL THE AID MONEY sent to them…By the BILLIONS… In Arafat’s TUNIS Account and with his wife in PARIS…and that dope died of AIDS and had a house of little boys that moved each night with him (fool moved every night to keep from being bombed)
SO take it back, you ignoramus. YOU have no idea what the problem is and for YOU to say something as DEMONIC as “Hilter was not so bad”… There is a special place in HELL for you too, Dude.
I hope That Scott Baker does not allow this type of trash to stay on this blog.
SHAME ON YOU.
Report Post »TheGreyPiper
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:27pmEasy, Patty, you’ve pegged me wrong. I was making the point that Gandhi was a Nazi sympathizer and anti-Semite. I agree with you.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:29pmPS… AS A CO. OWNER IN THE LA AREA, I’M HERE TO TELL YOU that anyone can find work if they try…it may not be a part in a movie, you may have to work two jobs to make it, or take in or be a roommate, but to say there is no work is a cop out. To kill yourself is one thing…to do it in such as way as to perhaps cause injury to others is just bratty. Sorry you’re gone, you made a lot of lousy choices…and anyone who is feeling suicidal go somewhere quiet and get on your knees and spend as much time as it takes to tell GOD all about it. HE is there, HE loves us all…(I don’t but HE does) and you have no excuse to take any life…yours, your child’s, anyone’s. Those are the laws of the world. Figure it out. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get out and help somebody…and GROW UP.
Report Post »It doesn’t matter how you were raised once you pass 18… You have a brain, eyes, ears…use them.
SATAN wants all of GOD’S creations (us) to be miserable and die…do not help him.
TheGreyPiper
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:40pmYeah Patty, an apology, or at least an Emilly Latella “Ooh. Never mind.”
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 9:41pmYeah poverty sucks especially when you live in California…It sucks finding a job here…You make more money on welfare than most other states. Why get a job when the state and federal support you? If your going to be homeless, Ca. is the place to live. Awesome weather and a nice check. Check out the social programs before you take your own life..Peace Be With You.
Report Post »Ashley
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 10:33pm@Mannax Thank you for the clarification. The left is always taking things out-of-context in an attempt to skew the truth and re-write history to their own benefit. This is not 2008, we know the games they play now and can spot a lie or out-of-context statement really easily now . . .
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on June 6, 2011 at 10:40pmThe Bible does not define sin as a wrong choice. Sin is defined as filthiness.
Report Post »Fastsam
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 4:29amHow sad this is. It was all predicted just as racial relations going South again was predicted. The animals that have been let lose in the White House to run America have to be turned around and run out of America. People have lost hope and when that happens we are doomed to be controlled by a Government which does not have our freedom and values in mind.
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 5:23amMannax, he obviously spoke a little too soon, eh? (Regarding Ghandi’s comment of Hitler).
Report Post »one yrs. food ration like Glenn says..
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 7:10amUmm, I would rather rob a bank, and hey, if I get caught, 3 hots and a cot for years to come… That is a better solution (excuse the pun ).. The dude that backed out should be held on murder charges..
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 7:49amAn attractive girl a shame that people look towards suicide as a way out of temporary problems…..
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:44am@ThirdAcorn – “violence” against whom? Having come from a very very poor family, and having each pulled ourselves up by our bootstraps, I can attest that 1) being poor wasn’t great, but, it sure wasn’t “violence” we didn‘t have all the ’cool toys‘ and all the ’cool clothes’. We rarely had ANY ‘new stuff’. We made do. Heck, we didn’t even KNOW we were poor! We all worked very very hard and when we made a little extra money, we didn‘t go put a downpayment on a car we couldn’t afford or a house we couldn’t afford. We SAVED it. We lived the REAL AMERICAN DREAM. We finally had enough money to BUY a small piece of land with cash. We then built a house on it, piece by piece as we could afford it. WE DID IT. The government did not. When dad was unemployed, we did NOT sign up for food stamps, we moved in with family (before we had our own house). We lived with 8 people in a 3 bedroom house. THAT is how it is done. A hand out will never eliminate poverty. It can only prolong it. We gave to others while we were doing this, and God blessed us for it. Charity encourages good behavoir. Entitlement does not.
Report Post »OLDBIKEFIXER
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 11:36amI’m just waiting for the first time some idiot tries this in an open convertible… Ya‘ just know that it’ll happen sooner or later, right?
Report Post »CoyoteDKM
Posted on June 7, 2011 at 12:33pm@Mannax, your “putting the quotes in context” didn’t change anything at all. And what reverse order? Looks like his point, that no one is always right, no matter who they are, went right over your head.
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