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Woman Gives Planned Parenthood iPods So TX Women Can Avoid Hearing Fetal Heartbeats Before Abortions

Planned Parenthood Gets iPods So TX Women Can Avoid Hearing Fetal Heartbeats Before AbortionsPro-choice advocates have made their stance clear on the ultrasound bills that have been advanced in localities across America (hint: they don’t like them).

So, one woman has come up with a plan that she believes could help temper the requirement that a woman hear their unborn child’s heartbeat before proceeding with an abortion. Her solution? Fundraising to provide iPods to Planned Parenthood offices, among other clinics.

But before understanding why someone would launch a campaign to purchase these devices for clinic usage, one must first comprehend how these increasingly-popular sonogram laws work. On LifeNews.com, Lucy LeFever provides a specific description about how the newly-minted Texas sonogram mandate functions:

In many states, pro-life groups have successfully enacted laws requiring women to receive an ultrasound before an abortion procedure. Texas law goes one step farther, requiring women seeking abortion to hear their children’s heartbeats and a medical explanation of the sonogram.

Denise Paolucci, a 35-year-old who is the co-founder of the Dreamwidth web site, came up with the idea to offer women the popular music-playing devices after a trip to the dentist. Her doctor, in an effort to drown out the sound of his drill, offered her an iPod.

Planned Parenthood Gets iPods So TX Women Can Avoid Hearing Fetal Heartbeats Before AbortionsFollowing her appointment, Paolucci reportedly decided to set out on a mission to get donations in an effort to disseminate these same devices to Planned Parenthood locations across Texas (after all, if they can muffle the sound of a drill, why not use them to avoid hearing the sound of a fetal heartbeat?). Then, rather than pay attention to the mandated description of the child, women would be able to escape it by amping up their favorite musical selections.

“Here is something that is utterly miserable for [women] to have had to go through, and now the state is putting all of these micro-aggressions piling on top of that,” Paolucci said of abortion and the ultrasound mandate in an interview with Salon last month. “We can’t fix the big ones. I can’t go down to Texas and overturn this law, but I can donate and I have and I will.”

According to Salon, she contacted several Planned Parenthood branches, heard back from a few and then posted the idea on her blog. In terms of her initial appeal for financial support, Paolucci reached her goal in about nine hours (bringing in a total of $1,060).

Late last month, she posted a message claiming that she’s not comfortable taking more donations until other clinics express interest (she is purportedly exploring independent venues to gauge their willingness to obtain the iPods as well). But that didn’t stop her from encouraging people to donate to Planned Parenthood.

“At this point I‘ve reached the point where I’m not comfortable taking any more in donations without another clinic interested in receiving donated goods,” she wrote on April 20. “Please donate directly to Planned Parenthood or the NNAF instead!”

On April 24, she wrote:

I’ve placed the first round of orders. Good news: yesterday morning I also received an email from the Lubbock Planned Parenthood requesting three sets of iPods/headphones in addition to the four requested from the West Texas clinic group, which I could happily do out of the initial donation collection. I also sent one spare pair of headphones for each clinic location, for a total of 7 pairs for West Texas and 6 for Lubbock.

After placing all the orders, and accounting for Amazon gift credt (both the credit we had on hand and the credit that others have sent me), there’s still about $250 in the kitty. I’m going to hold onto it for a week, in the event that I hear from other clinics also requesting gear (in which case I will let y‘all know that I’m fundraising again). If I don’t hear back from anybody else within a week, I’m going to put $100 of that ($50 for each organization) to gift cards for filling the iPods and send the rest as a directed donation to the two organizations.

Further updates as warranted!

It seems the pro-choice movement has found a potential way around these controversial laws. In the end, though, their efforts do little to change the legislative momentum behind ultrasound bills. However, some women, it seems, will have the ability, should they so choose, to drown out the explanatory mechanisms that clinics and doctors are mandated to share.

(H/T: LifeNews.com)

Comments (212)

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  • woebegone
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:22pm

    More power to her. If the government insists on intruding on me and my decisions, then like any prisoner of an insane regime I have the right and mandate to undermine their control at every turn, and I have a duty to escape. Where do I send my redundant electronics. Freedom isn’t free.

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    • A Lynn
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:41pm

      I try to be sympathetic but why do we have the RIGHT to kill a human being, just because it is growing inside of you? I used to think that once the heart starts beating THEN it is a life…well, that is what we are being BRAIN WASHED into thinking. It is a life once the sperm hits the egg…it is pre determined to be a person at that point. Yeah, I know that your baby can miscarriage but that would be out of your control.

      ABORTION is not the answer. I was adopted when I was 3 days old. My birth parents either could not or did not want to keep me. I am eternally thankful that I was given up instead of put out.

      Just because there are options in science doesn’t mean we have the right to use them. What is so wrong with having the baby and giving it up for adoption? There are plenty of people who CANNOT have kids while the ones that can are aborting. Sure, you body will suffer, sure you’ll go through 9 months of “work” but in the end you will know that life, that child, that person inside of you will be able to have a life better than you could ever give. A life much better than death.

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    • Anse
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:59pm

      “It is a life once the sperm hits the egg…it is pre determined to be a person at that point.”

      this is as arbitrary as any definition of “life” you have a problem with

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    • Gingerland62
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:04pm

      Alynn a fetus/embryo are not human beings, they MAY become one, I have a feeling a lot of home schooling is going on, because if you took biology you would get that.

       
    • Anse
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:29pm

      No Lynn’s right, a cell definitely counts as a human being. Now if you’ll excuse me I gotta run down to Supercuts and abort my hair

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    • kkentucky
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:30pm

      Why is it that the left only consider it an “intrusion on me and my decisions” when it comes to abortion. When its about salt in food, trans fats, what health coverage I decide is best for me etc etc…
      then its ok for the government to intrude.

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    • 4xeverything
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:33pm

      @A LYNN
      Thank you for telling your story. As a birthmother, your story and those that I hear like yours are the reason that I chose adoption (not that abortion was ever even an option for me, I’m 100% against it) for my son when he was born. I must say this though, I can say from my own experience that I wanted my child more than anything…he was always loved and wanted. I just knew that my own selfish wants paled in comparison to what was best for my boy. A stable, loving home with parents who could give him everything that I could not at the age of 17. Please, don‘t ever think that you weren’t loved and wanted.

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    • Anse
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:42pm

      “, what health coverage I decide is best for me”

      I think it‘s hard to be a compassionate person to any degree and think health care should be unavailable to anybody in this country but let’s not get into that

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    • woebegone
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:48pm

      A lynn–my original answer wasn’t posted so here is the abbreviated version. I am very happy that you were adopted and that that worked out but in the end this is not the point. (BTW many adoptions and fosterings result in heinous abuse as there is no genetic investment in the child–but that’s another discussion) What is at stake here is the role of government. Big government whether it is Left leaning or Right leaning serves no purpose but the oppression of people–and frankly I am sick to death of being oppressed. I am a full grown woman and anyone that presumes to tell me what I am supposed to do with my body is an idiot (this is the Big Government Right Wingers), I am also sick to death of being held prisoner by taxes and regulations which afford me nothing and are clearly eroding the ability of the individual to achieve independence. In the end my life, my choices are my business–or should be. Except both the Left and the Right think they have some stake in controlling me. Please, do us all a favor Mr. Government Man fix the roads and bridges protect the borders and leave me alone. The government is an institution without wisdom–so smaller is better.

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    • ICanComment
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:48pm

      @Gingerland:

      You said “Alynn a fetus/embryo are not human beings, they MAY become one, I have a feeling a lot of home schooling is going on, because if you took biology you would get that.”

      How do you know? Because your biology teacher told you so? Ah, so the educators and experts know best. Isn’t scientific method supposed to encourage the scientist not to take any information for granted? (Not that I have a scientific degree or anything. What do I know?) Prove it’s not a human. You’ll say, “prove it is.” Dogma does not constitute science, even when the “experts” make their claim. Please try again – circular logic and having a feeling doesn’t convince me as a scientist and engineer. Neither of us can prove or disprove that a fetus or embryo is or is not a human being. (except by changing the definition, which is certainly something, but it’s not science.)

      Hint: insulting people, stereotyping them, and then insulting an entirely unrelated demographic of people who educate their own children does not exactly compel people to believe your argument. (Unless, of course, they already agree with you. So what was your point, anyway?)

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    • nannyatnannydotgov
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 11:20pm

      @Gingerland62

      I am so impressed that you had biology in a school! I was home schooled (now I feel so dumb next to you). You must be very smart! You should be able to tell me what else the fertilized egg will turn in to! I’ve often wondered why I have never heard of or seen a human fertilized egg that turned into anything else but a human. I learned of some human fertilized eggs resulting in imperfect humans, but I was taught that imperfect humans are still humans. Was I taught wrong? Please tell me what you learned in biology in that school. Did you get to see something in biology in that school that didn’t result in a human? Please tell me what it was! Do you have pictures?

      I’m so mad at my Mom now for home schooling me! I could have been as smart as you! I told her, back then, that teaching me to be a moral, loving, giving, accepting, intelligent human, might cause me problems if murderous, moral less, self indulging, ignorant humans start trying to turn everything she taught me upside down! Dang her! She even taught me stupid things like, “If you don’t want to bring a human into the world, don’t fertilize a human egg!”. I believed her, how stupid of me! Now, with your guidance from biology in that school, I know I could have run around fertilizing human eggs and some of them wouldn’t have been human! Thank you so much! Wow, you are so smart!

      Everyone, please, learn from Gingerland62! Take biology in a school and you can be as smart as Gingerland62 too

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    • mauijonny
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 11:23pm

      Decisions can, and often do, change when different information is presented. I’d also like to say that this girl was inspired by using iPods at the dentist to “drown out the sound of the dril…” As we all know, having your teeth drilled is just exactly like listening to a baby’s heartbeat right before an abortion.

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    • Stoic one
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 11:35pm

      The moral conversation aside.
      The Supreme court spoke it and it is so.
      FINE
      The FED has been forbidden, by congress I believe, to NOT fund abortion. As the fed should not being a lot of other things with taxpayer monies.

      If you a woman want an abortion FINE pay for it out of your own pocket or have private charities fund your medical procedure, or have your sovereign individual state pay for it with state taxpayer dollars. NOT the fed.

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    • A Lynn
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 11:45pm

      @GINGERLAND62 very amusing that you would make such a bold assumption that you “have a feeling a lot of home schooling is going on, because if you took biology you would get that.” NO I was not home schooled and YES I took biology. I could make assumptions about you, I could assume your young, that you don’t know what it is like to be have a life living in you, that you don’t believe in god, and that you don‘t know anything BUT I don’t make assumptions.

      As a matter of fact my own mother was a first grade teacher for 33 years in PUBLIC SCHOOL and is not a fan of homeschooling. I myself see nothing wrong with homeschooling but do feel kids need more social interaction that JUST home schooling with siblings only.

      AND if you really want to know, up until I have become an adult, I am 30, I thought the same way about abortion as you did BECAUSE OF WHAT I LEARNED IN SCHOOL. I used to think…(ah, it can’t possibly be a “person” if it is just a bunch of cells. It can’t possibly be a life until the heart starts beating.)

      I realized later is that the heard starts beating at 6 weeks pregnant (4 WEEKS AFTER CONCEPTION) Then I realized what are we adult humans… we are JUST A BUNCH OF CELLS that have organized completly…Also although not completely developed, all the major body organs and systems are formed. The heart also forms, and it begins to beat on the 25th day after conception (about 6 weeks after the last menstrual period), and a heart beat can

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 12:13am

      @WOEBEGONE

      “Don’t Mess With Texas” is our ‘do not litter’ campaign slogan.

      If we feel that way about ‘litter’, imagine how we feel about ‘trash’.

      God bless Texas!

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 1:30am

      “YOU and YOUR DECISIONS” ? Really….it’s not a CHOICE…it’s a BABY.

      YOU know what causes pregnancy. R U trying to tell people that all of these pregnancies are from ‘rape’ ? or…R U using abortion like it was birth control. You also know how to avoid pregnancies or are you too lazy to count dates. Or just sleep around and don’t want to be bothered?

      Our lives do NOT belong to us. They belong to GOD. You didn’t create you and your main purpose on this planet is to get to know GOD, be who HE created you to be and then Have the next generation. GOD is a CREATOR. HE is not a destroyer. YOU KNOW HOW to NOT GET PREGNANT…don’t go killing innocent little babies because you are simple-minded.

      I‘m all for women’s rights…the right not to be sunk in a hole up to her neck and stoned, a right to get equal pay for equal work…a right to stay home and be a great wife/mother (which is the basis for most successful families and kids) … to be able to drive, marry whomever she wants etc. But not to kill babies.

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    • Cesium
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 3:35am

      I’m not commenting on the argument of life verses choice debate.. I’m commenting on the medical ignorance of commentor A Lynn that so many others also have.. as said ” It is a life once the sperm hits the egg…it is pre determined to be a person at that point.” This is absolutely not true! Between 2/3 and 3/4 of fertilized eggs fail to implant! There is no telling that life begins at conception at the level of the embryo.. Science has struck this century old religious fallacy down like Thor’s Hammer!

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    • RiggerMan
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:11am

      @Cesium.. There is a problem with your logic. They do not abort the eggs that fail to implant. they abort the ones that do. The ones that successfully implant if left to nature will grow into a human being. Therefore, there is basis to ALynn’s argument. An abortion is only to remove a living being from the womb of another. If that is a choice one wants to make, then they must suffer the consequences. I believe it to be the most abhorrent thing that our society has come to accept as normalcy, but I do not believe that a government can stop it. However, I also believe that a government should not fund any organization that promotes it either.

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:30am

      For, lo,as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in my ears .the baby leaped in my womb for JOY! Luke 1 V44- John the Baptist, in his mother, Elizabeths’ womb,HEARING Mary.
      Make NO MISTAKE. Those having a non theraputic abortion, and those doing it, are guilty of MURDER of a pre-born child. The baby can also HEAR the I Pod music,while being aborted! God will SEVERELY punish those who hurt little chidren,including pre-born babies. REPENT and ask for forgiveness or suffer ETERNAL punishment in the lake of fire.

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    • hi
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:51am

      But you I bet you are one who was all for forcing mercury-laden light bulbs on us all.

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:36am

      Why don’t they just stick their fingers in their ears and keep repeating, nah, nah, nah. Perhaps they could give them devices to play movies, like women loved romantic ones, so they can day dream about their next slutty physical relationship, while they get rid of the result of the last one.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:38am

      Sperm hits an egg there is life. To kill that life is called MURDER. And that comes from GOD. Get over it and let’s stop this mass murder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • liberty49
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 1:14pm

      It is sad that women might so easily be manipulated by ‘drowning out’ the sounds of their own baby for fear that they might decide not to murder it after all. But, then, they have been ‘snookered’ for almost 50 years into believing that the baby was just a clump of cells and a ‘fetus’ and not a baby. Sad.

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    • AmazingGrace8
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 3:26pm

      Everything is getting so crazy, here could be a new one. Say the mom hears the baby’s heartbeat with the iphone, the iphone paid for with taxpayer’s money, and the baby is “spared-death”. The baby grows up and for whatever reason (fill in the blanks) just thinks her life stinks and looking around for someone to blame. There are honest/ good/bad & despicable lawyers but just say the grown-up baby wants to sue(her rights violated) her mom, the clinic, the iphone manufacturer, the US taxpayers etc.(fill in the blanks) for “making a recording of her without her permission/ knowledge”. Crazy? Yeh, right….ask McDonalds & the hot coffee lawsuit.

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    • Gideon300
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 3:32pm

      If a fetus/embryo is not a human being, then, it cannot become a human being. A complex organism cannot change into another species altogether. A fetus/embryo is human, it is just part of the life cycle of humans. To deny this is to deny the existence of oxygen.

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    • HumbleCitizen
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 4:03pm

      Abortion stops a beating heart.
      A HUMAN beating heart.
      A BABY beating heart.
      http://www.100abortionpictures.com/Aborted_Baby_Pictures_Abortion_Photos/

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    • 4xeverything
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:09pm

      I love the science argument that says an embryo/fetus is not a human being. What is a a human being? I was taught that a human being was made up of a collection of cells that were given instruction on what to form by DNA. The moment a sperm fertilizes an egg a new strand of DNA is formed. Hence, a new human being is formed.

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    • jamesfrancis
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 9:06pm

      I don’t get it? Why is it cool to kill babies in the fetus , but not cool in the delivery room? I don’t get it? Why can’t we just kill people if we choose to? I mean seriously,I should have a choice to kill if i choose , right? educate me

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    • AdrianRuehl
      Posted on May 6, 2012 at 3:01am

      ‘My body, my decision’?

      So its ok to destroy another life because its your body? What about the body growing inside you?

      ‘My body, my desicion’ pfft…I don‘t think any doctor would amputate an arm because you simply walked into their office and declared ’this is my body and i just dont want this arm anymore.‘ They’d think you were a bit nuts. But for some reason its ok to murder another human being under the same excuse.

      Abortionists and their twisted reasoning make me sick

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    • wakeus_com
      Posted on May 6, 2012 at 1:37pm

      Kind of like Hannibal Lecter listening to “Goldberg Variations” as he slaughters people.

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    • FreedomsFury
      Posted on May 6, 2012 at 2:57pm

      Yeah just because you deny the Truth doesnt make what you want to believe the Truth, this isnt Glenn Becks book here there isnt multiple truths, there is The TRUTH and just because you turn on your stupid little false reality of some music doesnt mean that the little Life in your belly doesnt have a heart beat that you are about to destroy. I see all you little eugenics loving people out there,(hiding behind the veil of planned parenthood) and your thought of dont allow that 16 year old girl that came in to planned parenthood a chance to see that 2 month old Baby in her womb is fully formed or else we wont be able to perform our satanic Blood Sacrifice by pouring some saleen solution on the baby and watch it leap around in the womb as the skin is burned off his innocent body, but hey now she can go to parties and get drunk and enjoy her senior year. THATS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT RIGHT I WASNT SMART ENOUGH WITH SEX TO NOT GET PREGNATE, BUT HEY I KNOW THAT THE BABY IN MY WOMB ISNT REALLY A LIFE, AND I DONT WANT TO HAVE MY LIFE DISCOMFORTED IN ANY WAY, SO DOCTOR WOULD YOU PLEASE CRUSH THE BABIES HEAD AND SUCK HIS SKULL AND BRAINS OUT WITH A VACUUM… WAKE UP

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    • theresnoplacelikehome
      Posted on May 6, 2012 at 3:07pm

      @ Woebegone- I agree with your statement in the sense of the government’s intrusion in many aspects of our lives being out of control. I consider myself a libertarian and believe as you do that we must undermine this consent push for more and more of liberties being taken from us by our government. However, to wish this campaign more power I do not agree with. Let me explain why. I do not mean to be divisive I simply wish to give a personal spin to this issue. At 17 years old, sitting in a planned parenthood office, I was informed that I was pregnant, I was told that I was too young to have a child and that I should have an abortion. I was not given other options by the clinic worker, just that I should have an abortion. With no support from my family, being young and naïve as to how that one moment in time would affect the rest of my life (I am 38 years old) I choose to have an abortion. There is not one day that does not go by that I do not think of my child. He would have been 21 years old at this point in my life had I choose to give him life. I believe with my whole heart that if I had been given an ultrasound and heard my childs heart beating I would have choose life, regardless of those around me telling me to have an abortion. In the sense of liberty and freedom, what about the childs right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Have we become so hardened as a society that we do not value each and every life that God breathes his spirit into

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    • Tu Madrina
      Posted on May 6, 2012 at 10:15pm

      ICANCOMMENT, maybe your textbook is missing a few pages? It takes 48 chromesomes to develope a child: 24 from its father and 24 from its mother. What’s the difference between a embryo/fetus developing and nursing inside the womb as for the one that’s nursing outside of the womb? A stage of development is still a stage of development and killing a stage of development whether embryo, fetus, infant, toddler, pre-teen, teen, adult or senior is still murder!

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:20pm

    Democrat Priorities.Kill The Babies and Save the Whales.

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    • Gingerland62
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:45pm

      What is the conservative movement doing for the child in foster care? Cutting aide? Love the fetus, hte the child!

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 12:14am

      @GINGERLAND62

      How many kid’s have you adopted?

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 12:20am

      You forgot: legalize drugs, outlaw cigarettes.

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  • beckwill
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:19pm

    Maybe some compassionate soul will offer ipods to whoever puts her down so they won’t have to hear any pleas she might make for her life.

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  • lynda1276
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:13pm

    pure evil

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 2:28pm

      Absolutely…..I honestly don’t know how these people sleep at nite

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  • cassandra
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:07pm

    according to obama he wouldn’t want his daughter burdened with a baby , so he is saying he would get rid of his grandchild, instead of helping his daughter and his grandchild ( What a guy )

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    • Gingerland62
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:27pm

      Please find me the quote and when he said it because I don’t believe you. By the way would you want your 13 year old to have a baby.

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    • TumbleBumble
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:48pm

      GINGERLAND62 ~

      Listen to him for yourself…

      http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=obama+wouldn't+want+daughter+burdened+with+baby&mid=3336093C2717D31A70ED3336093C2717D31A70ED&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1

      Outrageous.

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    • Gingerland62
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:13pm

      He never uttered the word “burden” Did you watch the question he was answering? It’s easy to cut and paste to make a point, but did you answer my question-would you want you 13 year old BURDENED with a pregnancy or baby? I don’t know any one who would want their daughter to have a baby at an early age. Every child should be a wanted child. What is the GOP doing for foster children-cutting aide because once the child is actually born, the conservatives wash their hand of it.

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    • LimaBean
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:34pm

      gingerland….please do tell us what liberals have done to make foster care better, considering the state it’s in. I reallly would like to know your opinion on what will fix this problem.

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    • TumbleBumble
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 11:25pm

      GINGERLAND62 ~

      I didn’t cut or paste anything but a link to the president speaking his own words. You heard him, his grandchildren would be a ‘problem’. Burden… problem… you see any difference?

      He wasn’t just talking about if his daughters got pregnant when they were 13. He didn’t mention at what age he would consider the grandbaby a problem or or when he/she would be accepted by him.

      My husband and I do, each and every month, donate both to CareNet and Feed The Children. That’s how we help. It’s our responsibility, not the government’s.

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 12:42am

      @GINGERLAND62

      You’re right, he didn’t say burden(ed) – he said:

      “I don’t want them PUNISHED with a baby.”

      Thanks for the clarification.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 1:51am

      Cassandra: I don’t know how it is that these OBAMA LOVERS never hear what he says. Maybe if they DID they would know why we despise him so.

      He said this – it was all over the news – probably between 2009 and 2010. I’m sure they scrubbed most of this stuff off the web, but it’s probably still here. I’d love to have someone find the REASONS he and MOOSHELL GAVE UP their Law Licenses. :) People have more Secrets than the KGB…oh…wait…they probably ARE the KGB.

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:32am

      He is of his father, the devil!

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:20am

      Ginger..in regards to the 13 year old having a baby. Do you also support the Planned Parenthood policy of protecting the pedophile that got her pregnant in the first place? You know, the policy seen in videos several times of Planned Parenthood employees telling pregnant teens to NOT divulge who the father is, so they don’t have to, by law, report it to the police. How about Planned Parenthood accepting donations from racists, who want their donation used to abort, only a certain minority. Ginger, when it comes to destroying a baby, do you, like our President, support putting a baby, from a botched abortion, born alive, in a soiled laundry closet, so it can die because you prohibited medical care of it. Any answer to these? Or are they, like Obama, above your “pay grade”?

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    • Kathleen
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 3:52pm

      Obama doesn’t seem to mention what his daughter may want. What happens if like my sister who got pregnant as a young teenager, she wants to KEEP the baby? What then Obama??

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    • ljjkj
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 10:46am

      Here you go, Ginger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpWOYWIWVcg

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:06pm

    I can tell you, I worked in a big Church for many years. I talked to women that had come forward to repent of their sins and get right with God. I dont know how many told me they heard that child the killed crying in the night,,,many years afte the abortion.

    You can cover your ears now, but the child will cry out later…and you will hear that child.

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    • A Lynn
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:21pm

      I could not agree with you more. I know a woman who, when she was much younger, took the abortion pill for an unplanned pregnancy. TO THIS DAY she regrets it and would do it all differently again if she could. We are only in this plane one time and only have one shot at getting it right.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:53pm

      Na, Na, Na, Na, I can’t hear you … what’s that you say, a tomato , a potato .. Oh, a tornado ………………………… aahhhhhhhhh…..

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  • nathanoc
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:05pm

    It’s sad the lengths some people go to support abortion. Why not just walk in to the office with a blindfold and noise cancelling headphones.

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  • burnbabylon
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:03pm

    John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
    20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

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  • LoriGirl
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:02pm

    Wait, I thought Planned Parenthood didn’t do abortions. No…that’s not it…How can there be a heartbeat if it’s just “tissue.”…Oh, wait, that might actually be a BABY with a beating heart YOU CAN ACTUALLY HEAR before it’s life is ripped out of the womb.
    Deaf, dumb and murder. How sad.

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    • tp4949
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:14pm

      No one said they didn’t. Are you lying on purpose?

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    • Fearnone
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:31pm

      At least he didn‘t stutter when he spelled his username like you freakin’ did. Notice that when used properly, username is one word mr. spellchecker.

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    • Gingerland62
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:42pm

      Why do throbbing globs of matter have more rights than living BREATHING beings. A fetus is not a BABY an embryo is not a BABY. Abortion is legal, and that is never going to change so stop trying to guilt out women making hard choices for their lives. There are three quarters of a million children in foster care in America. Why isn’t the so called pro life movement helping these children that are already on the planet! Love the fetus, hate the child .

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:18pm

      Having a heartbeat doesn’t make you a person. Fish have heartbeats.

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    • TumbleBumble
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:04pm

      CHET HEMPSTEAD ~

      How many fish do you have in your family? I’d really like to meet them.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:13pm

      TumbleBumble
      How many embryos do you have in your family? What do you and the embryos talk about at the dinner table on Thanksgiving day?

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    • TumbleBumble
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 8:37pm

      CHET HEMPSTEAD ~

      Really? They’ve all grown up to be PEOPLE. That’s the whole point. No scaly, bulging-eyed, fin-flapping aquatic creatures. Only beautiful human beings that had their beginnings as teeny tiny babies in their mother’s wombs.

      But I love to know why you think women can give birth to fish, because I don’t know of any.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on May 6, 2012 at 1:34am

      TumbleBumble
      They’ve all grown up to be PEOPLE.

      You just recognized that there is a difference between embryos and people – if the y grew up to be people, it follows that as embryos they were not yet people. That’s the whole point. They gave heartbeats, but they aren’t people.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on May 6, 2012 at 2:47pm

      Chet – Only a sick, evil monster would think that unborn babies aren’t people.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on May 6, 2012 at 2:48pm

      Gingerland62 – Those kids are in foster care b/c of irresponsible deadbeats like you who want to sleep around but don’t want to face the consequences of doing so.

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  • R4M0N
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:02pm

    Wow… The lengths people will go to kill a baby and not have to face the reality of it. I understand an abortion on those extreme instances where the life of the mother is truly at risk. I can even understand someone choosing an abortion in cases of rape (I wouldn’t fault a woman for not wanting to go through with it and then give the baby for adoption), but someone choosing to abort a baby out of nothing but convenience is something I can’t wrap my mind around.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 4:46am

      The state of the law today is that abortion is a right. I realize that a lot of people don’t agree with that, but there is a right and wrong way to try to change it. Allowing the state to dictate preconditions to exercising a right is the wrong way. You have a right to eat meat, though some people think that is immoral. Would you support a law forcing you “to face the reality of it” by dictating that you have to visit a slaughterhouse every time you order a steak? I don’t think so, because it would be imposing conditions on something that you have a right to do, and because it would be treating you like a child. It would be looking at you with the supposition that you are making an uninformed choice, instead of treating you as an adult who is to be accorded the supposition that they are making an informed choice.

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 10:57am

      I wonder if women realize that abortion is used in many places to select gender when adding a child to a family. Guess which gender is wanted, and which isn’t. Just guess ladies.

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    • bluegrandma52
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:26pm

      It boils down to where “choice” begins. If a woman chooses to have sex (even with contraception, which is not 100% sure), she also chooses the consequences, including the possibility of STDs or pregnancy. Those are possible consequences of that choice.
      Committing murder to avoid a consequence is generally illegal, except in the case of abortion. If a woman did not choose to have sex (rape, underage (legally can’t choose) or mentally incapacitated), or the pregnancy itself threatens her life, then her right to choose kicks in.
      We have been fed a pack of lies by the left. The choice of abortion by a woman who is not accepting the consequences of her own actions is murder. What a sexually active woman does with her body is her choice, until her choices involve another human being, who also must be accorded the right to choose. Smokers have been told “your choice ends at my nose”. Women need to be told “your choice ends at your baby’s heart.” At any stage of life, human life is precious and full of potential. My husband was adopted 72 years ago, and we are eternally grateful that his young, single biological mother gave him the chance to live, meet me, and raise a family of 4 beautiful children, 16 wonderful grandchildren and 2 fun-loving great-grandchildren. You don’t know who you may be killing when you choose abortion, perhaps my great-grandchildren’s future wife or husband.

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  • TexasIndependant
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:02pm

    easy enough …The state should post the heartbeats online of the survivors. the babies who’s mothers changed their mind. with their permission of course. Then the state should list the dead, county by county, city by city, clinic by clinic. It should be mandatory. Genocide must not be hidden or covered up!

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    • tp4949
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:14pm

      Why is it you wingnuts are so illiterate? Even your freakin’ user name is misspelled.

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    • dontbotherme
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 11:21pm

      TP – Why are you so rude & angry? If you have a cogent point to make, please do so. Name calling is the bait used by one who has lost an argument where one does not exist. God bless you.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 1:53pm

      TP Is a sad individual with a LOT of HATE inside. The subject of ABORTION always brings them out of the closet to defend murder… I think TP needs to read a book by a FORMER PP insider. A little TRUTH wouldn’t hurt and may even HELP! by Abby Johnson, http://www.unplannedthebook.com/

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  • A Lynn
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:01pm

    wow…I sort of answered my own question…on the Planned Parenthood website there is a page titled “Thinking About Adoption” it states “Millions of women face unplanned pregnancies every year. If you are deciding what to do about an unplanned pregnancy, you have a lot to think about. You have three options — abortion, adoption, and parenting.” WOW…the first option they list is “abortion” lol, if they didn’t want such bad press about being baby killers maybe they should try to change that around…let me…“You have TWO options parenting and adoption” there I fixed it for them :-)

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    • Cagey1
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:31pm

      Plan Parenthood makes no money if the woman chooses adoption or parenting. Of course abortion comes first. Kaching

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  • zoro51
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:01pm

    the heart n concious mind STILL CAN HEAR YOU MURDER YOUR CHILD *****! ipods wont take that away….

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:57pm

    Well, I just bet GOD IS soooooo proud of you. N-O-T!

    JESUS GOD, we are so grateful that YOU are uncovering evil on all its levels. Where before we have chosen blindness over sight, we are now able to see. And, because we now see, we choose sight. In YOUR PRECIOUS AND MIGHTY NAME, JESUS, we rebuke this servant of satan, her sick, distorted intentions, and we replace them with YOUR HOLY SPIRIT SURROUNDING AND PROTECTING THE INNOCENTS, the unborn and the mothers who carry them. THANK YOU JESUS for YOUR VICTORY over satan in this area. THANK YOU for forgiving our sick, twisted, apathetic attitudes. And, THANK YOU, LORD, for bringing us to our knees. In YOUR HOLY NAME, AMEN and amen.

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  • mrmarkjohnson
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:55pm

    Maybe they need some “medical” crack to further distance their consciousness from the decision they’re making.

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  • momrules
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:55pm

    Certainly, blot out the heartbeat of the child of God that you are going to murder. So much concern for the woman’s feelings and none at all for the child.

    How can God endure us and for much longer?

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  • TumbleBumble
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:54pm

    Wow. Does this show their determination to deceive or what?

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  • burnbabylon
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:54pm

    Leave the ultrasound equipment on for the abortion. Record it for Stephen King.

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  • blackyb
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:54pm

    Just say no to killing your child. Your child is not responsible for your going out and having premartial sex.

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    • palerider54
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 6:58am

      I agree BLACKYB, a woman looses her right to choose when she chooses to have sex.

      Of course the other side will bring up rape and incest for a reason to murder a unborn baby, but they forget to tell you that rape and incest accounts for less than one half of one percent of pregnancies that end in abortion.

      In their demon influenced minds this justifies all the millions of other abortions.

      Every women that kills her baby will be confronted by that child as an adult in heaven on her judgment day.

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  • A Lynn
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:53pm

    If a woman cannot deal with the reality of being pregnant (hearing the heart beat) they should not get pregnant. I am 30, was on the birth control pill since I was 16 and never had an unplanned pregnancy. While I know that there are many situations that may not allow someone to take the pill there are very few TRUE accidents getting pregnant. Unless it is RAPE (and you were not on birth control) getting pregnant isn’t an accident. Just like on the road an “accident” is always someone’s fault/error.

    It is a sick society we live in where women feel like they have the right to end a life for their selfish needs. I am not saying they have to KEEP the baby but what is 9 months out of your life and you can give that child to someone who can take care of him/her. Why don’t more people consider giving up the baby for adoption?? I was adopted at 3 days old! I LOVE my adopted parents and there is NO DIFFERENCE to me that my mother did not give birth to me!

    I am LIVING PROOF that abortion is NOT the answer!!! I would not be here in this world if my birth parents had taken the easiest way out!! Being pregnant is NOT a disease, it is not something to be ashamed of, it is something to appreciate and handle like an adult. I just wish more women would think more about the big picture than the immediate solution.

    BTW, does anyone know if Planned Parenthood provides avenues for adoption??? Do they go over this with the women when the women goes for an abortion consul

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:02pm

      So you would kill a baby in the case of rape? Sorry…you are pro choice and not pro life…It is MURDER any way you want to look at it. The rape will not excuse the Murder of a child.

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    • A Lynn
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:09pm

      actually NO, I would not abort a baby no matter, sorry if I misspoke. I was simply trying to make the point that it is only an “accident” if a woman is raped and then has a baby. I personally would still have the baby if I was raped and if I could not deal with having a child of my rapist I would give it up for adoption.

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    • A Lynn
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:19pm

      @BADDOGGY You misunderstood my post, I appreciate you pointing that out. I was simply trying to state that getting pregnant isn’t an accident unless you are pregnant BUT that still does not make abortion OK….I had a followup post which stated.
      “wow…I sort of answered my own question…on the Planned Parenthood website there is a page titled “Thinking About Adoption” it states “Millions of women face unplanned pregnancies every year. If you are deciding what to do about an unplanned pregnancy, you have a lot to think about. You have three options — abortion, adoption, and parenting.” WOW…the first option they list is “abortion” lol, if they didn’t want such bad press about being baby killers maybe they should try to change that around…let me…“You have TWO options parenting and adoption” there I fixed it for them :-)”

      As a woman if I was raped I would still have the baby. Only IF I could not face having a child of my rapist I would put it up for adoption. Thank GOD I have never had to be faced with that situation. However, a child is a child and I could see keeping him/her because they would be from me.

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    • momrules
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:22pm

      Baddoggy………I don’t think that A Lynn is condoning abortion for rape victims. She is just explaining that with few exceptions that is the only accidental pregnancy. No where in her comment did I read a justification for any abortion.

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    • A Lynn
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:22pm

      damn, these posts take a while to update…sorry for the duplication :-)

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    • A Lynn
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:28pm

      I mean *darm… ;-o

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    • A Lynn
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:29pm

      Thanks @MOMRULES :-)

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    • DRAGONSEED
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 3:59am

      “While I know that there are many situations that may not allow someone to take the pill there are very few TRUE accidents getting pregnant.”
      You need to do a little more research before you make such claims. There are plenty of women who conceive unintentionally, even though they were on the pill or IUD or other birth control.

      It is interesting, the way so many people (at least on these posting sites) seem to want to “punish” (the Big O’s word, too) those who do become pregnant unintentionally.

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    • DRAGONSEED
      Posted on May 7, 2012 at 4:24am

      Interesting article. This story shows the lengths people will go to defend their stance on this divisive issue.

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  • blackyb
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:51pm

    Just say no to killing your baby. That baby never forced you to go out and have premartial sex. The wages of sin is death. Why should your child die for your sins? Wouldn’t it be easier for all concerned if you did not have sex and kept yourself busy doing something to help yourself and your family in this life? Go to work, get a skill, grow up and quit thinking that dropping your drawers is an answer to your lonliness. Get busy and be somebody responsible, then you will lot have time to concentrate on your baser wants and needs. You will gain control over your life and will not have to kill your child.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:26pm

      It would be better if people were mature end responsible enough to not conceive babies they can’t take care of. But some aren’t. Being an immature idiot is a reason to not have a baby, not a reason you should have to have one. It’s better for all of us if irresponsible fools snuff their progeny before they are born until they grow up and are ready to raise them properly.

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on May 6, 2012 at 2:50pm

      Chet – So the irresponsible idiots shouldn’t have to suffer the consequences for their stupid choices?

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on May 6, 2012 at 3:44pm

      No the rest of us shouldn’t have to face the consequences of their actions. There are enough people in the world who were raised by irresponsible idiots. We don’t need any more.

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  • FASTCOMPANY
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:48pm

    What a classy woman.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 9:07pm

      I truly hope you are kidding.

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 12:22am

      As the late, great Rodney Dangerfield said in “Back to School”:

      “Give me a call sometime when you got no class”.

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  • Cedi
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:46pm

    What an evil sick woman…………

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 7:29am

      I hope they have Ipods in hell so she can’t hear herself wailing.

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  • dealer@678
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:45pm

    Gov. Perry will find a way to fix her wagon

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  • chips1
    Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:45pm

    Lucifer is having a ball. Collecting souls has been as easy as collecting votes for Obama.

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    • Angel_light
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 8:56pm

      I couldn’t agree more

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    • Gingerland62
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:02pm

      How self righteous us of you, knowing who will go and who will not go to those imaginary places. You know that today’s concept of hell was created by Dante in the 14th century right, 1300 years after Jesus died. Jesus met the devil in the desert after fasting for “40 days and 40 nights” when I studied theology we fasted for 4 days and that’s all it took to start hallucinating, wow Jesus had quite a trip. Many religions do not believe the soul or spirit enters a person until they are brought into this world. Christianity decided almost 2000 years after Christ died that abortion is an abomination. Because Christianity marginalizes women, a male dominated religion which has erased almost all mention of the women of Christ.. Remember though the women were the only ones who remained with Christ until the end. Abortion is a legal procedure, and groups of people who torment women making incredibly personal decisions, are not acting Christian at all. They could be going to hell too. They would be more Christlike devoting there energy to caring for forgotten and unloved children in foster care or homeless families. But judging people is an ugly thing.

       
    • 4xeverything
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 10:12pm

      Except the Devil doesn’t have to pay for his.

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    • dontbotherme
      Posted on May 4, 2012 at 11:57pm

      Ginger: After reading your angry & acerbic posts, one can only assume that you have been pained by life. Your “history” of Hell is completely flawed as is your denial of Biblical truths and History. May God have mercy on you & bless your heart.

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 12:44am

      @GINGERLAND62

      Reminds me of a poster I saw once…

      Everything I needed to know about religion I learned in theology class.

      Or something like that.

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    • RedBaronConservative
      Posted on May 5, 2012 at 1:21am

      Well Said!

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