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Woman Launches First Lawsuit Against Idaho‘s ’Fetal Pain’ Abortion Ban

Woman Sues to Overturn Idahos Fetal Pain Abortion Ban

BOISE, Idaho (The Blaze/AP) — An eastern Idaho woman has filed what is believed to be the first lawsuit in the nation to directly challenge the constitutionality of a so-called “fetal pain” abortion ban.

Jennie Linn McCormack filed suit in federal court against Bannock County’s prosecuting attorney, contending Idaho’s new law banning abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy violates the Constitution.

Idaho is one of six states that have enacted such bans in the past two years. The bans are based on the premise that a fetus may feel pain at 20 weeks. LifeSiteNews.com has more about the development of this concept:

The science behind the concept of fetal pain is fully established and Dr. Steven Zielinski, an internal medicine physician from Oregon, is one of the leading researchers into it. He first published reports in the 1980s to validate research showing evidence for it.

He has testified before Congress that an unborn child could feel pain at “eight-and-a-half weeks and possibly earlier” and that a baby before birth “under the right circumstances, is capable of crying.”

Below, learn more about abortion restrictions, like the fetal pain ban, that are being put in place across the nation:

McCormack, who was briefly charged with having an illegal abortion, is seeking class-action status in her lawsuit against prosecutor Mark Hiedeman. The suit also challenges other parts of Idaho abortion law.

McCormack was charged with a felony in June after police said she took pills to terminate her pregnancy last December. Police found the fetus in a box at McCormack’s Pocatello home Jan. 9, and an autopsy determined it was between five and six months gestation. Police said McCormack told them she didn’t have enough money to go to a licensed medical professional, so her sister helped her access abortion-inducing drugs online.

A judge later dismissed the criminal case without prejudice for lack of evidence. That means the prosecutor may refile charges if he chooses, unless the federal courts stop him from doing so.

In the lawsuit, McCormack challenges the lack of access to abortions for women in her region, as well as the ban on abortions after 20 weeks.

She notes there are no elective-abortion providers in southeastern Idaho, forcing women seeking the procedure to travel elsewhere.

McCormack was unmarried and unemployed at the time of her pregnancy – with an income of $200 to $250 a month – and already had three children. She couldn’t afford the time or money it would take to travel to Salt Lake City to get an abortion, the lawsuit says.

If McCormack prevails, it will be a win for women across the region, said her attorney, Richard Hearn of Pocatello.

“If we’re successful, they’ll be able to access legal and safe abortions in southeastern Idaho,” whether performed with medicine or surgically in a clinic, Hearn said Wednesday.

Hiedeman could not be immediately reached for comment.

Idaho law bars women from getting abortions from anyone but licensed Idaho physicians, and requires that second-trimester abortions be performed in a hospital. Women who purposely cause their own abortions, or who get abortions from unlicensed physicians, face up to five years in prison and up to a $5,000 fine.

McCormack is asking a judge to find that those criminal sanctions are unconstitutional, in part because they wrongly burden women in regions like southeastern Idaho that lack abortion providers.

Another Idaho law, passed during the 2011 Legislature, bans abortions once a fetus has reached 20 weeks on the belief that fetuses begin to feel pain at that stage. Idaho was one of five states – along with Kansas, Alabama, Indiana and Oklahoma – that enacted bans modeled after a fetal pain bill passed in Nebraska in 2010.

The situation may be more complicated as time progresses. Arthus Caplan, a professor of medical ethics at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, claims that an overall change in abortion methods may also add intrigue to the fetal pain debate. He says:

“It’s headed in an interesting, fascinating and important direction because the future of abortion is pharmaceuticals, not surgical procedures.”

Thus one wonders: Will pills that induce abortion, as they develop, be considered mechanisms that cause fetal pain?

McCormack says the new law violates the Constitution because it doesn‘t contain an exception allowing for abortions if necessary to preserve the mother’s health, and because it prohibits some abortions even before a fetus has reached viability. Roe v. Wade barred states from prohibiting abortions done before the age of viability, and other legal rulings have since determined viability occurs at 22 to 23 weeks gestation.

That contention echoes an opinion written by Idaho Attorney General Lawrence Wasden’s office, which advised state lawmakers that the fetal pain bill could be found unconstitutional under the 14th Amendment.

It’s not the first time Idaho lawmakers have passed abortion laws that they were warned likely would be found unconstitutional. In the past decade, Idaho has spent more than $730,000 to defend restrictive abortion laws that ended up being struck down by courts. Those costly rulings prompted legislative leaders in recent years to require that abortion-related legislation be reviewed by the Idaho attorney general’s office.

Republican state Sen. Chuck Winder, who sponsored Idaho’s fetal pain legislation, didn’t immediately return a phone call seeking comment.

The National Right to Life Committee said Wednesday it believes the law will be upheld.

“Unborn children recoil from painful stimuli, their stress hormones increase when they are subjected to any painful stimuli, and they require anesthesia for fetal surgery,” the group’s legislative director, Mary Spaulding Balch, said in a statement. “We are confident that the Supreme Court will ultimately agree and will recognize the right of the state to protect these children from the excruciatingly painful death of abortion.”

Janet Crepps, director of the U.S. legal program for the Center for Reproductive Rights, said laws like fetal pain bills are both unconstitutional and bad policy. They also are “demeaning to women and their doctors” because they don‘t take into account how each woman’s situation is different, she said.

“When you think about all the regulations that are piled onto abortion, it just clearly becomes impossible for doctors to provide them and women to receive them in a situation like McCormack’s,” Crepps said. “It’s a really sad situation.”

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  • loriann12
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 9:04am

    “McCormack was unmarried and unemployed at the time of her pregnancy – with an income of $200 to $250 a month – and already had three children.”

    Then she should have kept her legs together. They did a study when my now 21 year old was 15 months old and having heart surgery to see if he felt pain as they took the breathing tube out. they asked for permission to take a blood sample out of his A-line to prove that he felt pain. I granted permission, because I know he felt pain. Poor thing tried to cry, but couldn’t make any noise because the breathing tube temporarily made him lose his voice. It was like a whispered cry. A 5-6 month old child is capable of life outside the womb. I know, my nephew was born at 6 months, 3 months premature. He’s now active duty Navy.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 9:31am

      I jumped over to Huffpo to see the same story, and to read their blogs.

      It blows my mind at just how much a lib supports the murder of unborn babies. If the headline was switched around, and it was puppy, it would be a completely different story. The libs would come out in droves and go crazy over a puppy, and the thought of it feeling pain. A human on the other hand means nothing to them.

      And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 9:43am

      Perhaps a little off topic, but related.

      Lots of anti abortion folks on the blaze. Many with religious/Biblical convictions. This post is for you (especially ladies that attend church).

      If you are ever sitting comfortably in your church pew with your Sunday best, and in walks that sixteen year old girl who has on the short skirt, over done make-up, tight fitting top, visible tatoo….. When she sits down, if you are not the lady that will walk up with a warm smile, and put your arm around her shoulder, and make her feel welcome, and be kind and loving, then you have no place ever writing or speaking so much as a word against abortion.

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    • angelcat
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 9:59am

      Ranger, and I also tell her that her dress is inappropriate for church and is sending a bad message about her, whether it is true or not. People are judged by their clothes, speech, demeanor and need to make peace with that fact.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 10:12am

      @angelcat

      Throw a rock into a pack of dogs, and you will know which one you hit, when it begins to growl.

      Thus the reason so many people are turned away from church. You might find that it works better to let God convict hearts, and keep your standards to your self. You might want to set an example and not declare one. When people change on the inside, it will show on the outside. To many christians wanting to change someone on the outside, and leave the inside as it was.

      That young sixteen year old girl (who may be pregnant) will hit the door running and not come back when you start preaching about how she is dressed. Show her some warmth, kindness, and share the gospel with her. If she gets right on the inside, she will feel out of place real quick wearing non appropriate clothes. Once again, let God do the changing, just throw out some seed.

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 10:35am

      @RangerP, are you sure you‘re not my church’s pastor? You said a lot of the same things he tries to send out every week. He says that what happens within the church walls for an hour every Sunday is not nearly as important as what we do as Christians the rest of the week. We are taught to sow the seeds, just like you said, because you never know when that seed might finally take root. We are to hate the sin but to love the sinner. We may not understand why some people do the things they do (such as killing their unborn babies) nor wish to tolerate those actions, but we are still to love them just the same.

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    • Jimmiesue
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 12:25pm

      I was part of leadership in a very old, stiff and dying church. We brought in a contemporary worship band. Hired a wonderful youth pastor that reached out to kids and the church started growing. One Sunday morning one of the young adults invited her parents to church. They came on Harleys and were wearing very nice clean leathers. One of the Old ushers actually went to them when they sat down and told them they were dressed inappropriatly for church. They left. This was their first time in a church. I pray it was not their last. Made my heart sad.

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    • REALID 239823749828-HIF
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 12:48pm

      @RANGERP

      Dude, once again, you hit the nail on the head. Be thankful that the girl is in Church at all. Don‘t start preaching at her about the way she’s dressed. Maybe she doesn’t know any better, but maybe she doesn’t have anything else to wear. Good post.

      On the topic of abortion, my opinion is, it’s never ok. Keep your damn legs closed or your **** in your pants if you don’t want a child.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:35pm

      If a young girl walked into church dressed like that…I would welcome her with open arms…but if she continued to come to church dressed like that…you can bet your bottom dollar I would convey to her what kind of message she is trying to send out…afterall it‘s God’s house, should we not show more respect for our God?…I think so!…as far as the woman in Idaho, what part of killing a baby doesn’t she get..definition of murder, taking a human life…plain and simple.

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    • dorightfearnothing
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 3:01pm

      Thanks for sharing your story, God Bless you and your family for siding with life. My baby brother was born disabled and my parents were told he wouldn’t live long. We were blessed with 19 years with him, he touched many lives more then I realised until his standing room only funeral. Life is a blessing, a gift that has more value then anything, my brother taught me so much & I miss him dearly.

      There has already been so much loss of life and unrecognized potential as a result of abortion. For all we know the baby who had the brain power to cure cancer or develop clean fuel alternatives has been aborted, murdered and lost for ever… How dare us commit such atrocity, it’s disgusting. But thats just what I think.

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    • MainMan
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 3:05pm

      And they built the high places of the Ba‘al, which are in the valley of Ben-hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech; which I did not command them, nor did it come into my mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.” (Jer. 32:35)
      She will get hers and all that are like her.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 3:06pm

      ” just throw out some seed’

      And what form would those “seeds” take if not helpful advice about what form of behavior is most appropriate and prodcutive for a decent young woman. People are dying for lack of proper guidance while the world is too busy giving all the wrong advice. Anyone who turns and runs by helpful criticism doesn’t yet have the proper attitude to take it the message that should be coming out of the pulpit and from the altar. God offers salvation to those who seek it. If people aren’t ready to acknowledge that they need it they have come to church too early. Imagine a drunk with an open bottle coming to an AA meeting and being offended by someone telling him that he shouldn’t be drinking. If he wasn’t ready to admit that he was just waisting his (and everyone else’s) time.

      Any “pastor” that thinks Christians shouldn‘t be calling each other to account within the church hasn’t read 1 Corinthians

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    • TumbleBumble
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 3:41pm

      RANGERP -

      Even though I agree that some people could use a lesson in sensitivity, not all people respond to confrontations in the same way.

      Personally, I have always been up for a good debate. God has placed Christians in my life since I was young (first one was my babysitter). But it wasn’t until I met my future sister in law that she got in my face and challenged me on the things I believed. In my attempt to prove her wrong, I started researching and found that what I believe was incorrect. Most people would have been turned off by her approach. But that is how I was led to Christ.

      I do appreciate most of your posts. On this I must say that one size does not fit all. For each individual you need a counter individual to meet them where they are at.

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    • tersky
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 3:58pm

      RANGERRP~ It‘s been my observation that people who walk into church dressed inappropriately are either ignorant of the ’rules’ (My church expects men to wear ties, women to wear dresses or skirts, and all to be dressed modestly, which includes covering the shoulders and cleavage; but I have a cousin who went to her church in hot pants and a halter top.), haven’t anything else available right then, or they purposefully dressed inappropriately as a way of daring some judgmental twit to say something thus giving them an excuse to not come back.

      Anyone who takes the bait is a fool.

      In either case, the act of telling anyone they are dressed inappropriately for church is a waste of time at best. Unless they are blind, they know.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 6:04pm

      The cold-bloodedness of not caring if a child can feel pain at that stage of developement aside…..perhaps McCormack should worry more about keeping her legs closed? Three children, no father in sight. And how creepy is it keeping the dead child of six months gestation in a box? Someone just throw up on the wretched woman and tell her seek professional mental help.

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 6:05pm

      Rangerp- your arbitrary “scenario” is boring at best.
      Yawn

      it has nothing to do with the topic of murder.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 6:08pm

      RangerP…that’s all well and good but making the girl understand that she should dress more modestly for Church from now on is also a good idea. Lot’s of time for the short skirts and tats outside of church..a couple of hours without them won’t hurt her and may even build a little character.
      Unrelated but along similar lines…when did “flip flops” become acceptable business attire?

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 7:16pm

      Good comments on here. I think a few missed the point. Believe me, I am for high standards, and especially at Church. Biblically, older women in church should teach the young ladies.

      Perhaps my scenario was not the best (even bored some). The point I was trying to make, is that I think some fundamental churches get a bit upity and rule oriented when the unsaved show up. If they get saved and their heart gets changed, their attire will change also.

      Not sure if this is applicable, but when Jesus showed up and dealt with the maniac of Gadera, he did not preach about his clothing (he was not wearing any, and chains could not hold him). Jesus first delt with his spiritual condition. We see in follow on verses, that man was clothed and in his right mind.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 7:26pm

      @Libertyluvnmomma

      While my post may have bored you, ten other responded. As a matter of fact, you responded.

      How many folks responded to your post?

      As for you question about “what does this have to do with murder?” I will break it down Barney style for you. Take copious notes, and try to hang on.

      Many of us believe that abortion is murder

      Many of us get our belief from the Bible

      Many of us would like to see abortion rates go down, or go away

      Many of us attend church

      Some girls that are in a bad situation, may end up pregnant, may not be part of a church or have good upbringing, may never have gone to church, but because of their current situation, may go to one looking for help. She may be dressed like the world, but may be ripe for the picking (like wheat)

      My suggestion of being on the lookout for such a person, would advise that the young girl who looks out of place may be more receptive to kindness than an upturned nose.

      WIth kindness, and salvation, we might keep one more baby from getting murdered (via abortion) and may see one more soul go to heaven .

      Hope that was not to deep, or boring for you./

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:16pm

      Amen RangerP! Alot of people condemn christians, because of how we are, and if most would relax, they would probably know we are the best people, most generous, charitable, etc. To be christ-like is all these things and much more!

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    • ramburner
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:18pm

      @RangerP; I agree with your posts. God must be the one to cause change inside a persons heart. Jesus NEVER told anyone to stay outside, in fact he found a place to sit and hear the message of the day, right down in front in one of the best seats in the house! We who are Christian need to let God do what we cannot, that is; change the hearts of the wicked as He is the ONLY one who knows the heart. God Bless YOU, RangerP. You’re message was not only appropriate it spoke to the HEART of the matter. Abortions can be CURED – STOPPED; when the HEART has changed!

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    • Give_heed
      Posted on September 2, 2011 at 6:59pm

      Angelcat
      You hit the nail on the head, the rest of the posts ignored the problem. If the truth be hid it is hid from them that are lost.

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  • Secessionista
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:56am

    I imagine this would all go away if only women would stop murdering their own children by the millions.

    But some of them are too obsessed with “their body”, and their “right to their body”. How creepy, being too poor to have another baby and then having sex anyway, knowing full-well that you will be killing that poor defenseless child. This chick must have incredibly hot and intense sex, screaming to her partner “kill a baby, kill a baby!”. Like some type of wiccan ritual, it must be, offering a sacrifice to one’s god…

    Lady, if you are too poor to have a baby, you are too poor to have sex of any kind. You shouldn’t even go in a public swimming pool or jacuzzi, lol.

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    • one years food ration like glenn says
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 9:00am

      I despise abortion to the fullest but I must say do any of you remember anything at 20 weeks in the womb or 20 weeks out of the womb for that matter ? I don’t think she will win this one but I do hope that she does..

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    • one years food ration like glenn says
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 9:02am

      I guess i misunderstood the story .. cant get them all right..

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    • Caniac Steve
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 9:14am

      I noticed she has 3 other children and can barely afford those what is she doing having unprotected sex ?? sounds like & using PC logic and reason.one would think she could,would,and have loved herself enough to set herself up to fail like that…unless she did it on “purpose!! gasp…she wouldn’t do that to prove a point would she ??

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    • spreadthefaith
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 11:07am

      Do you not think you had a right to your life? the good news is that God who created you says“yes” He actually commands that do not murder. the forefathers agreed.I do not believe it will be much longer and legal abortion will end. As a wise man once said…“God needs to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah” if He doesn’t punish us and other nations that promote the paganistic ritual of abortion.

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    • dmac2225
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:40am

      @spreadthelies…. I had no idea my mother and father are GODS! That must be the case since you claim a “god” created me and everyone else. See when a mortal woman‘s egg is fertilized by a mortal man’s sperm and then manages to attach itself to the wall of the mortal woman’s uterus there is a potential for a mortal human to develop. No “god” required or in evidence.

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  • GENEPAGLIARI
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:52am

    We talk about all that Mao killed. The same for Hitler, Stalin, Ghengis Khan etc. In another ten years we will reach a number, as a nation, that will have murdered more than all those put together.

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  • DanWesson455
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:37am

    Just too bad your Mom didn’t abort you. Dip Wad.

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    • DanWesson455
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:42am

      At about 23 or so weeks. We could have tested if there is pain. Eh?

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:57am

      I’m currently 20 – 21 weeks pregnant and there is NO WAY you can tell me that that squirming, kicking, hiccuping little guy in my womb is not a living human being. This twit killed her baby when she was a little further along than I am. After already having had children, she had to have felt that baby moving around. That’s a feeling a mother never forgets. How in the world this breeder could choose to kill her child is beyond me.

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    • glittersky
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 3:28pm

      BIO- Congratulations!!! I started crying when I read this story. I’m a mother of two little ones, one a little boy of 6 months, and I cannot fathom ever inflicting any pain on them, especially death. Satan has a real hold on this world. Babies are a blessing and if someone cannot afford an unplanned pregnancy, there are always organizations, churches and programs willing to help. God bless that little baby. :(

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  • ConservativeHippie
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:32am

    Evil won’t come as a nasty looking devil, it will come cloaked to be non threatening and look just like you or I. That way it doesn’t scare you unless you are paying attention. These people are evil. Look at their eyes, they always give them away.

    How women can murder their own children is beyond me. As a mother of 5 I find it disgusting.

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  • notatoomah
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:28am

    Lack of evidence? How many people do you know that had a miscarriage and left the fetus in a box in their house? Guilty people always try to hide their sins, and now, after she got caught, she wants to challenge the law that she broke. the judge that dismissed the original case is a pawn of the left. Liberals make me sick.

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  • krisfaction74
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:27am

    The modern holocaust must be treated as such!

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  • mikester8888
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:24am

    I wonder how history will show what our actions have been? This may be the age of murderous tyrants that looked at profit over life. I hope God comes down on all of us. We have stood by and done nothing. Shame on this nation and its people. The radicals grew up and took over the country and we let it happen.
    When the true America takes back over the White House “Rep, Dem or Tea” its my prayer that when the truth is exposed, that these murderers are brought to justice. Maybe God will spare us……and maybe not!

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  • hidden_lion
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:24am

    Abortion is simply the modern version of human sacrifice, but for baser reasons. Inconvenience…Such a heartless and evil excuse. It was convenient for her to have sex out of wedlock. She obviously knew what happens when you do that, she has other children. The devil has taken control of our society.

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 4:15pm

      I hope she loses custody of those she allowed to live. They deserve better.

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  • sojournsend
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:24am

    What’s so sad about this is each child IS a life! By banning abortion, no one is stepping on the rights of any woman. It’s called abstinance. It’s 100% affective every time. If you don’t want children, don’t have sex. Abstain. And don‘t tell me you can’t, it’s an animal instinct. Our ability to reason and make a choice is what makes us a bit different then any animal. God created us from the womb and each and every child as well. I feel for the women who have bought into the idea they have a right to sacrifice their children to the god of convenience, but that’s what the Destroyer does–sacrifice God’s children.

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  • biohazard23
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:21am

    These pro-baby killing women tend to have no problem with muslim child brides being raped and killed by their much older husbands, honor killings, and other forms of abuse against women and children, yet they scream bloody murder when someone wants them to look at other options besides killing their unborn babies. These are baby human beings being killed! It’s not an unwanted appendage an appendix or an extra toe!!

    Why oh why do liberals fight tooth and nail to preserve the murder of unborn children and then mock and condemn those who wish to save them? Is it wrong to want to prevent abortion from being used as a form of birth control?? Is it THAT BAD to protect children? Is asking people to have some sense of personal accountability really too much to ask? In the mind of a liberal, YES.

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:29am

      *LIKE an appendix…

      Not enough coffee this morning. :)

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    • Happy Killmore
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 9:23am

      Yep. And they HATE the death penalty. How evil is that? It’s practically the definition of it!!! They scream and yell about a non-existent Constitutional right to kill the most innocent, defenseless thing there is but desire to save the most evil among us. I think it’s the single most telling thing about how wrong headed that side is.

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 9:49am

      @Happy, they also think that exposing kids to guns will increase gun violence, but that teaching Kindergarteners all about the finer points of sex and it’s many “alternative” forms won’t lead to promiscuity and the unintended consequences that go with it. Oh, and they feel that pedophiles can be rehabilitated. Disgusting.

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    • JustNo
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 10:13am

      No, of course it’s not wrong to stand up for the lives of the unborn. The physicians, the advocates, the politicians, the lawyers, and the participants that keep this evil industry going are doing satan’s work with a smile on their faces.

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    • Happy Killmore
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 11:29am

      @Bio
      If only they thought pedophiles can be rehabilitated!!! They just had a story on here about they want to decriminalize it altogether! They talked about teaching children how enjoyable sex is so that it’s okay. This is a disease!!! It’s a cancer on society of the sickest kind!!!

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 4:17pm

      Go easy on the coffee if you’re pregnant ;)

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  • The Catbird
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:18am

    This crowd truly sickens me. If it were the only available option, these Deathers would fight for the right to terminate the life of a post-natal child with a claw hammer. Lady, yeah, our Constitution affords you the rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness… The very rights you wish to rip from the Human in your womb.

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    • stoptheliesbho
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:29am

      “Lady, yeah, our Constitution affords you the rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness… The very rights you wish to rip from the Human in your womb.”

      I couldn’t have said it any better. How selfish can some people be???

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 4:19pm

      She has no human in her womb, she already killled him or her.

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  • Talbot
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:06am

    Everyone who believes in abortion ought to have to watch what happens to a child during one. A child that is only a few weeks old has everything that an adult has, except they are only about 3 inches long. I mean everything too. Everyone that believes in partial birth abortion, like Ocommunist, should have to sit in a tiny little room, and watch one on a big screen. Abortion is murder, plain and simple.

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    • Happy Killmore
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 9:28am

      I think that even if he were forced to do that, he wouldn’t care in the least. To him it would be like killing a bug. That side either just doesn’t get it or relishes it.

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  • johnconnersmom5
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:05am

    So it was better to end this baby’s life and put it in a box than to carry it to term and give it up for adoption? It seems that option would have been free. When did children become a financial inconvenience instead of a life to be cherished?

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    • Happy Killmore
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 9:34am

      If she was that poor then what about surrogacy? They pay ALL the mother’s expenses and even buy healthy food! Sometimes they even pay a stipend to the mom. I’ve heard of this for moms who are not being surrogates but simply putting the child up for adoption. There are childless couples out there VERY willing to do this and can afford it. Her story is crap. She probably did all this to push an agenda to begin with. Why keep the baby’s body in a box anyway? Seriously, WTH???

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  • searching for the Truth
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:02am

    The main reason the lobby of abortion rights is soo dynamic is guilt. Is it a sin? Yes! Will God forgive you? Yes! You’ll have to repent .

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    • searching for the Truth
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:14am

      In Heaven there is a ” Hall of Souls.” Innocent souls gathered together – all crying out . The Angels look upon the innocent souls, and when they reach a certain number , God’s Wrath is poured out. The Lord knew us before we were conceived.

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:22am

      Amen.

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    • Conservitive Ticker
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:31pm

      Thou Shalt not Kill. Murder comes pretty close to being an Unforgivable sin, but still requires a type of forgiveness on our part. To forgive one of murder is one of the most difficult thing for anyone of us to do. Especially when it comes to children. God will answer upon the head of those who commit these heinous crimes an hundred fold if they repent not. Forgiveness still requires repentance and recompense for ones actions and the turning of ones heart to god or the atonement can have no effect on that persons soul.

      Someone once said,”Forgiveness is a sweet and noble quality of the godly soul.” Someone also has said, “that forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heal that has crushed it.”

      I pray for the strength to be able to forgive every day, because I would not be able to do it with out Gods help.

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  • GERATMO
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 7:59am

    Its an inconvenience to drive to SLC to murder your child? It just sounds wrong.

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  • SUEB
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 7:59am

    go to utube…..look up SILENT CRIES….see for yourself….It is horrifying to see an abortion…this is what should be taught in schools. To see an umborn child back away from the objects to end its life. My heart is breaking. What is this world coming to. Where have our values gone. What are we teaching our children? God help us all. I pray for all of us born and unborn.

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  • Tyson
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 7:56am

    They will deny and oppose anything that stands in contridiction to their blood lust to end the lives of the unborn. LIFE, LIBERTY and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. You enjoyed your Pursuit of Happiness, the consequences are the creation of a life which now takes precidence over your liberty and further pursuit of happiness until you give birth to that life. Ending that unique life(not a part of a part of a woman’s body, a different, unique and distinct DNA) is very clear, the taking of an innocent life is murder. Pretty straight forward.

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  • shirelover
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 7:55am

    Or, there are thousands of couples who are doing everything they can to adopt a child. If you don’t want the child give it to someone who will cherish it.

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    • Favored93
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:28am

      See this is the biggest part of the problem! Have you guys seen how tough it is to adopt a child in this country?!?!? It is cheaper to get one from China or Russia!!!!
      They make it intentionally hard to adopt or to give your child up for adoption that women… (and guess were the largest percentage of abortions come from…that’s right black women)… take the easy, lazy road and head straight to planned parenthood to murder their child!

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 4:23pm

      Adopt, or find away around the infertility that saddles so many decent people who would never kill a baby no matter what. It‘s one of those mysteries of life that I can’t answer- why does a woman like this get children when far better women and me live broken hearted and empty handed?

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 4:26pm

      That “me” was meant to be “men”, sigh, but it fits.

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  • liberalsarealiens
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 7:54am

    FIVE TO SIX MONTHS?????? That is nothing less than MURDER! PERIOD!

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  • liberalsarealiens
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 7:52am

    FIVE TO SIX MONTHS????? That is nothing less than MURDER! PERIOD!

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  • WireWizard
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 7:49am

    I wonder if she knows what causes that condition (pregnancy)

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:53am

      “McCormack was unmarried and unemployed at the time of her pregnancy – with an income of $200 to $250 a month – and already had three children. She couldn’t afford the time or money it would take to travel to Salt Lake City to get an abortion, the lawsuit says”
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      One would think she would have MUCH more careful. $200-$250/month? I would bet she is on welfare and every other social program. I know women who have 3 kids, work, and STILL have time to raise their children. Good men aren’t that hard to find, either. And…..where was the father in all this?

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  • cassandra
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 7:48am

    I guess she dosn’t care about the rights of an innocent baby, this woman is evil

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 7:45am

    That woman and her lawyer who looks remarkably like adriannahugginposts, should be present at an abortion but this time, not as a client to see with their own eyes, up close and personal without drugs or alcohol to deaden their pain, what they THINK they are standing for. They are soooooooooooooooo wrong!

    There should be no more abortion. Period.

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    • GERATMO
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:01am

      Agree, especially when someone else would love to adopt that child. Abortion is unnecessary.

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  • The_Almighty_Creestof
    Posted on September 1, 2011 at 7:41am

    I guess keeping their legs closed or demanding the guy use condoms or being on the pill is just too inconvenient.

    Much better to argue over the cutoff time of murdering a life.

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    • dmac2225
      Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:27am

      And how do you know she wasn’t on the pill and/or her partner did not use a condom? Were you there? I didn’t think so.

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