Would ‘Fully’ Endorsing Mitt Romney ‘Undo’ Much of What Ron Paul Has Accomplished? He Seems to Think So
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Texas libertarian and former presidential candidate Ron Paul recently explained in an interview with the New York Times why he chose not to speak at the Republican National Convention, saying the mandatory endorsement of Mitt Romney would “undo everything” he has done with the bulk of his career.
Apparently convention organizers offered him a speaking role, but only if he gave a “full-fledged endorsement” of the former Massachusetts governor and agreed to have his remarks pre-approved.
“It wouldn’t be my speech,” Paul explained to the New York Times. “That would undo everything I’ve done in the last 30 years.”
He continued: “I don’t fully endorse him for president.”
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USA Today adds:
Paul is speaking today at his own rally at the University of South Florida, in an event that’s separate from the GOP gathering where Romney will accept the Republican nomination…
Paul, a Texas congressman, stopped actively campaigning for the GOP presidential nomination in May. He earned 177 delegates through primaries and caucuses, according to an AP tally.
…Paul has a devoted and passionate following because of his small-government views, and his supporters have helped shape the GOP platform. Many, but not all, of Paul’s supporters will be seated at the convention and take part in its activities. [Emphasis added]
“We used to say most people found libertarianism by reading Ayn Rand,” David Boaz of the Cato Institute remarked. “In the last five years, most people have found libertarianism by listening to Ron Paul.”
Despite Paul‘s comments indicating that he won’t “fully endorse” presumed Republican nominee Mitt Romney, the RNC has still agreed to play a short film paying tribute to the man.
Paul’s son, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, was slated to speak at the RNC Monday, but the day’s events have been rescheduled due to severe weather.
Politico suggests Rand Paul will take the libertarian message to a wider audience, while Ron Paul will remain the movement’s “conscience.”
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Comments (469)
louise
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:20pmWhy would a real Statesman want to endorse a politician?
Why would someone who is a true conservative according to the Constitutional standard, want to endorse someone who is obviously “ok” with the RNC cheating RP out of his delegates?
I have news for all the politicians who say they are one thing, but their records say otherwise: We (the Constitutional/libertarian/conservative citizens) are the future.
Report Post »TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:40pmIn light of the alternative, the close race and the hesistation for Paulbots to vote for Romney, I think that Ron Paul should at the very least endorse the parts of the Romney/Ryan platform that he is in agreement with and I believe that Romney and Paul DO in fact have considerable amounts of common ground.
Report Post »louise
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:42pmI would thank you to not use the F-word in a reply to me. I am a 60 year young grandmother who still thinks that America needs people like Ron Paul to preserve Liberty.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:43pmGums, I am 55 years old and I can tell you Louise has more brains in her head than you any day and more honor in her little pinky than your entire body.
Report Post »louise
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:47pmThanks WestCoastPatriot
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:49pmWe don’t need Ronney boy endorsement, him & his cook followers r just sry loser. 2 old 2 grow up.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:54pmRon Paul is an American everyone should have cheered for. Instead the establishment, which depends upon giant government largesse, beat him down and made him look like a kook. Like Ross Perot, in five years we will dearly regret not listening to the prophet who told us the end is near.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:00pm” Paul explained to the New York Times. “That would undo everything I’ve done in the last 30 years.”
Report Post »Other than gathering nuts what has he done?
Gums
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:00pmOh and S.C patriot – my enemy – you should take a class on anatomy or pick up a book sometime. Nobody has brains in their pinky or their entire body.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:01pmHey GUMMY,
I like Ron Paul and voted for him in the Ohio primary.. He lost…..
I will be voting for Romney/Ryan Just like I voted for the McCain/Palin ticket in 2008.
Double nickels here paying my bills; making hard choices on on household economics.Mom & dad have been gone for decades.So please don’t characterize us paul supporters as childern/teenagers.
perhaps a little less division via insults; and look for our similarities. Maybe we the eole can turn the country around. If you want to criticize some one try obama.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:01pmGod bless Ron Paul
Report Post »TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:02pmYeah Gums. That was a little harsh.
As I referred to earlier, Romney’s stated plan to return what belongs to the states to the states and his plan to cut our spending problem and to lean toward founders intent are common to Paul. Their opinions on unions seem to be common too. I think that they’ll be in agreement on abortion too. I’d love to hear Ron Paul endorse what he feels he can. The sooner the better. I am giving up a lot of time and energy to assist the Romney campaign. I know that the Campaign 4 Liberty crowd has a lot of passion, energy and skills that would be seriously helpful. The road home will be progressive the same way that the road to serfdom and communism has been, so let’s turn this country around and incrementally fix things. We have a great start at doing that with ROmney and Ryan steering things and a Conservative/Libertarian/TEA Party/Constitution defending House and Senate. We have work to do. This is no time to dig in our heels in protest.
I am in agreement with much of Paul’s opinions too, but not immediately pulling back troops and creating a vaccuum in places where we currently have peaceful and useful bases..
I have great faith in what Romney intends to accomplish.
Report Post »Wdawg
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:03pmGUMS is the poster boy for Liberty! hahaha
Report Post »Hbtrux
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:04pmRon Paul was against Ronald Reagan, he violated his Oath to office many times.. why do you RP supporters sound more like an Occult then a voter??
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:11pmTo Ron Paul supporters. I’m sorry he lost, but as someone said, this is the MOST important election in our lifetime. We must unite against Obama or we will lose our freedoms and our Republic. Please let it go and join with us in voting for Romney. You will not know what you have had until you lose it to Obama who wants to destroy America and your lives in the process.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:22pm@GUMS
“Oh and S.C patriot – my enemy – you should take a class on anatomy or pick up a book sometime. Nobody has brains in their pinky or their entire body.”
Oh brother. Are you stupid, gullible or have no sense of reading between the lines?
As you stated, yes, no one has brains in their pinky. Thus the fact that she has more brains in her pinky, which as you’ve stated has no brain, than you have in your skull means…. come on, think about it…. think about it…. did it click in yet?
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:26pmTruthAndFreedom, “The road home will be progressive the same way that the road to serfdom and communism has been” How can you think that way? Progressives are NOT for getting back to the Constitution as it would take the power they want away from them, they believe in big government and Romney believes in big government. This is the problem. Did the Founding Fathers say we just need to have rules here like Britain in order to slowly gain freedom? No. We either want freedom or we do not, period.
Report Post »Romney has shown what he is if all of you would just open your eyes. How can you think that he has the peoples best interest in mind when his campaign and the establishment committed federal crimes in order to silence the people? Wake up, it is going to get worse.
Individualism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:29pmA constitutionalist or libertarian cannot endorse a nazi or a communist.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:31pmGary Johnson is your man if Paul doesn’t get nomination. Romney is not an option just like hitler would not be.
Report Post »Maddog1860
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:34pmSomeone might have already posted this but here it is anyway.
Read please.
http://www.infowars.com/2012-us-elections-obamney-vs-rombama/
Also, if you want to what is in a “man’s” heart, follow the money.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:41pmINDIVIDUALISM just a backdoor vote for Obama….. be honest.
Report Post »dukielouie
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:45pmThe RINO’S know that the public has been educated about the Fed, False Wars,private property rights “Un agenda 21/Sustaniable development’, crony capitalism, and the move from the constitution to Globlalization.Thank you Ron Paul. Thanks go to DeMint for supporting Rand in 2010. As the chair of a 912/Tea Party we are not sheep any more. Many tea parties are waking up and moving against the republican party.Rand Paul is our future.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:47pmBesides the obvious trolls on here, I cannot believe anyone who supports Paul or Johnson does not intellectually see what would happen if Obama wins. This isn’t the time to make stupid decisions or have arguments back and forth. Our very Republic and way of life is at stake. Please wake up before it is too late. If you haven’t seen the movie 2016, Obama’s America, do yourself and America a favor and see it. You will realize how this bickering is a waste of time.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:49pmObama is hell but even a vote for Obama is better than a vote for a white supremacist. we don‘t need Germany 1930’s happening here.
Report Post »floridareader
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:52pmWhen the only choice you have is better than the one destroying your country,you have to be selfless and commit to the good of others
Report Post »I like Ron Paul a lot, but he won’t be the choice against BHO. He needs to stop thinking on himself and start thinking in the good for our country. That kind of selfishness is what gives Obama strength.
NHwinter
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:52pmIndividualism – I think you are mentally challanged to think the way you do.
Report Post »TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:55pmWest Coast Patriot,
You misunderstood my comment. America is being destroyed in a progressive nature, meaning incremental instead of all at once with violence.
What I was saying is that we need to restore our country to what it was meant to be and it will also need to be in an incremental way. Not with progressive policy. Not with capital P Progressivism, but with incrental (progressive = not all at once) steps.
As James Madison said; “I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”
That IS how it happens. The road home follows the same in reverse.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:58pmif you read his cults book you would know what i am talking about.
Report Post »Kalish
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:00pmThe problem is that I seriously doubt that this country could stand another four years of obuma, I am not kidding, this election is more important thank any in recent history, obuma could send us in an irreversable tailspin, I like most of what Ron stands for ( not all) BUT he cannot win, at least if romney wins, we may be able to hold on until next time and maybe get Rand in ? or someone like Ron, romney is a big government guy to a point, but he is not a socialist or anti colonialist like obaum, just giving MHO …….
Report Post »TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:02pmIndividualism,
Germany in the 1930s? The National Socialist Party. BIG FASCIST SOCIALIST government. There was nothing small government about the Nazi Party.
The Republican Party, Libertarian Party, Constitution party, TEA Party are SMALL government.
Report Post »resme
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:05pm@nh ” We must unite against Obama or we will lose our freedoms and our Republic. ”
The recent rnc rule changed took away the republic, It’s now a majority rules democracy. Every election i’ve heard its the most important election of our lifetimes, blah blah blah. No thanks.
@truthandfreedom, Name me one country that has gotten liberty back in increments.
Report Post »Healingapostle
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:08pmI like a lot of what Ron Paul says, I just can’t see him as commander in chief, I think he would make an excellent secretary of the treasury though. I have to say though no one makes him look like a kook except him, I’m with him on sound money and less regulation, even willing to have the debate about legalizing drugs and what not, I’m even with him on pulling out of many of our bases around the world, just really not cool with the idea of Iran having nukes
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:10pmGUMS, Again, you show your ignorance. I did not say brains, but honor in her pinky. LOL It is a saying. Are you telling me that you have been so sheltered in your life that you have never heard that one?
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:12pmRon Paul
King of Earmarks
Report Post »db321
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:14pmLook here Paulbots – I love you all like Brother‘s and Sister’s, but you brought all of this on yourself. We Conservatives Republicans have been hearing your threats of how Paul was going to split the vote and run as an Independent since the Primary started. We read every one of your never ending copy and past bullet points of how Ron Paul Walks on water and no body on earth knows the Constitution better than Paul. Now that you are forced to pick a candidate that is in the race, it appears that many of you are going to hold your nose and vote for Romney. Welcome aboard!
Let it be clear, I hold no allegiance to any man. I learned a long time ago that men and Women will at times let you down. In my opinion Romney has 4 years to get it done. That means, that if I hear one word about any Gov Regulation that is being added to our budget, I will scream. I want to see cuts in the size of Government not growth Government.
I probably agree with many Paul bots that Romney if he were President 15 years ago, he probably would be a Rino and pass an expensive regulation or two. These are drastic times and the man that takes the office of President in 2013, better do two things 1. cut Govt Spending and 2. strengthen our Constitution so that people like Obama and Holder can never again do to America what they were trying to do.
If Romney doesn’t cut and balance – he is a one term President. But I really thing Romney is smarter than that.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:15pmSorry guys, If you truly want Obama out and Ron Paul is not an option, you had better seriously look at Gary Johnson. I am telling you, do not count on Paul supporters to see it your way to a progressive who helped commit federal crimes during the primary because we will not, que sera sera.
Report Post »str8blues
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:20pm@Chicago76 I don‘t know what you see that makes you think we can’t live without the influence of Ron Paul. He’s been in congress for 14 years and has only pass 1 bill in his career. Really? How many millions have we paid him for that 1 authored and passed bill?
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:21pmGary Johnson may get a whopping 1 % so sure , If you want to guarantee four more years vote for Gary, or Saul or Karl , or Barry.
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:22pmWhoever it was who said Ron Paul “was against Reagan”. Just wanted to educate you that Ron was a Reagan delegate in the 1976 Republican national convention in Kansas.
Liberty or Death 2012/1776
Report Post »TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:23pmRESME, What are suggesting? War? We don’t need it. We need pieces of Progressivism dismantled until that disease is removed from our government and schools, but it will always be advocated in society and in the Democratic Party. We need original definitions restored. We need regulating agencies removed or reassigned as advisory only departments. Congress legislates. I am for going as fast as we can and I believe that Romney/Ryan should do absolutely do that and have a plan in place to do that in as many places as possible, but we need to also educate all future generations to continue and to block Progressivism. Progressivism has been spoon fed to generations of students who now think that the government should do things from redistribute wealth to fix fast food orders. Name ONE country who achieved what has been achieved here! We can return government to it’s assigned duties, but it will NOT be done overnight. ROn Pul would not accomplish it. Mitt Romney will not accomplish it either, but he will take us far in that direction.
Report Post »mike del
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:25pmRon Paul has some things that he says that are possibly good ideas regarding economics but his other ideas like Isolationism that worked 150 years ago is ridiculous and legalizing pot which he ahs been saying since I saw him on the Morton Downey show sometime in the 80s is just stupid and not well thought out even though he has has 30 years to think about it. What I really don’t understand is how ANGRY his supporters get when commenting. To me, even if you are dead on with your point, your delivery is so way out there you lose credibility. I would prefer his son over him but Romney is th eguy now and everyone needs to get behind him because another 4 years of this anti American Socialist in the White House will destroy this country.
Report Post »nachoboy
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:25pmI am disgusted by having had to vote against the greater of two evils rather than for someone who actually stood for freedom of the individual. We have not had a true “statesman” in the White House” for more than 100 years. Initially, immigrants came here for freedom FROM what we are quickly becoming. Now, many come for a guaranteed livelyhood at the expense of others. Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin; neither will restore our Republic until they are forced to do so. If you don’t “dig in your heels” and support Ron Paul’s limited Federal Government policies, then you, in my opinion, are just as much a danger as Obama.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:26pmLouise Thanks for your input and you‘re right about Paul he’s the only constitutionalist conservative,libertarian whatever label needs to be used who knows the role of government.
Report Post »I wanted him to win but I‘ll have to vote for Mitt because at least he isn’t a Marxist and we can’t afford four more years of the fraud masquerading as president.
db321
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:33pmPaulbots – were was Mr. Ron Paul when a report came out a month ago on the Blaze that showed that we have 100 million people on some form of Govt assistance Today in America. I don’t care if that number is 200 million – WHAT I DO CARE ABOUT IS THE NUMBER WE SPEND ON GOVT ASSISTANCE. $800 BILLION. I ask Paulbot – Can Ron Paul do simple mathematics? Can he divide $800 Billion yearly cost by $100 Million Recipients.
Let me do the math for Mr. Paul – It cost our Govt $80,000 to pay out just ONE Welfare Recipient on a yearly basis. I don’t think Welfare Recipients are making $80,000 a year. Are they? Where is the rest or the money going. Why is Ron Paul not howling at the Moon on this one item alone. I sure would be.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:34pm13thImam, http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/18/libertarian-eyes-spoiler-role/
Report Post »A little more than the 1% you profess, and this is without the Liberty movement on his side yet. When we get the Liberty movement to get behind him, he will have enough support to get in the debates. After that, who knows, but we will not support Romney, no way. If that means Obama for another four, we will blame you and GUMS and GUMS, you will be our enemy and WE will not forget or forgive.
RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:44pmGUMS, Man, did you ever think to sign on and read the posts long enough to figure out who you can and cannot get along with, instead of just jumping in a ******* off everybody?
Report Post »Lighten up GUMS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJs
TRUTHandFREEDOM
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:46pmALL that I can say to those who write in Ron Paul, vote for Gary Johnson or anyone and do not vote for Mitt Romney is that you didn’t do yourself or us any favors. If Ross Perot couldn’t win, then Paul and Johnson have absolutely no chance. The candidates had their chance to reach the people in the primaries. Now, they would only take votes away from the Republicans because there is SO MUCH COMMON GROUND THERE.
Support them? You will have done two things; #1. Complained via vote and #2 assisted our socialism problem. No friend of Liberty helps Obama get re-elected!
The
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:46pmHBTrux, Paul is more like Reagan than any other candidate: http://www.policymic.com/articles/8544/ron-paul-is-much-more-like-ronald-reagan-than-mitt-romney-wants-you-to-believe
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:51pmDB321 So your point is government social programs are full of fraud,yes they are and they shouldn’t even exist in the first place.Since Paul has never voted for a tax increase or any unconstitutional program I don‘t know what you’re trying to get across.Even if he did call for a congressional investigation to look into all the fraud and waste in government spending how far do you think it would get? That‘s the whole point here our government has gotten so big and created so many unconstitutional social programs and agencies that we’re on the brink of financial ruin because government will not permanently eliminate whole departments and end the welfare state once and for all.Either way we’re going down because this much debt and the continued increased spending is unsustainable.
Report Post »WEBWITHDEB
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:52pmDB, I believe you are off base there. The statistic was for “government assistance” was it not? That would include all sorts of entitlements other than “welfare”, such as Medicaid, WIC, and earned income credits. Thus, a person on medicaid who ends up with a $.75 million dollar hospital bill would mess up that average. Also, I believe the COST of running these entitlement programs (all the administrative BS) would be factored into that average also.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:57pmYeah, it might ‘undue’ the 3 times he’s run for president and lost horribly. lol!
Report Post »Wool-Free Vision
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:59pmRon Paul? More like Ross Perot.
I am very suspicious of the stubbornly obtuse Paulbots who continue to campaign for him in spite of the obvious fact that he can’t possibly win, particularly the constant trolls who never seem to have a bad thing to say about Obama and democrats in general but go on long-winded rants at Conservatives, republicans, and Romney. Allow me to explain.
I believe that the DNC learned from Rush Limbaugh’s Operation: Chaos in the 2008 primaries and are trying their damnedest to pull off their own version of this tactic, Operation: Paulbot. You shills can deny it all you want, as I know you will, but this is the only reasonable explanation for this behavior.
You reserve all of your character assassination diatribes for the republican ticket, with only the most casual and half-hearted criticisms of the left. This is very telling. You can’t deny this, we have seen it for months now. The only reasonable conclusion is that, at heart, you are OWS-type activists who have been co-opted to do the bidding of your DNC masters, torpedoing the republican nominee while claiming you want to fix our broken system.
After Ron Paul’s betrayal today, I can only conclude one of two possibilities: Either Ron Paul is a bitter old politician who would rather torpedo the nation’s only hope at stopping the tyranny of the left out of spite OR he is knowingly playing the part of Perot 2012 for HIS masters. Either way, he can go to hell.
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:02pmI am a libertarian, but I would not support Ron Paul or his moonbat minions.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:08pmToltepeceno, What do you think about this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrU6hTWyj6s&feature=player_embedded#!
Report Post »Is this a sign?
soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:13pmSo if Romney wins, we will have Romney, McConnell, and Boehner making all the decisions in the republican party…..What fun
Report Post »Taldren
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:20pm@RepubliCorp, You mean other than starting the Tea Party movement (in 2007), Auditing the Federal Reserve, Warning since 2004 of the pending 2006 housing bubble burst, bringing the constitution back into the political debate, being the first and loudest on SOPA/PIPA, Being the only one supporting Israel on their bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities, and being the first to support Reagan? Other than those things? A LOT.
Report Post »You. Are. Ignorant.
Hobbs57
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:30pmCoo Coo for Cocoa pops … If we pretend we are in the never never land of Libertarian land, then who cares if you are a 60 year old grandmother ?? Seriously, as Individuals, in the fairy tale land, we no longer ascribe to religious fundamentals which have previously determines the moral fabric of our land. IN this land, it is a free for all, to each their own, you earn respect or are trampled over. In this land where neither the government nor the majority religious body announces our moral inclinations, it becomes a melee of selfish self centered people, justifying unrighteous acts if they serve our individual self. Oh, yes, religious groups with the most people , power and influence will have the ability to persecute and regulate those who they don’t agree with, even chase them out of the land with state militia is they see fit. That is for you Individualism, and your bigot remarks about early writings of the Mormon faith you conspiracy nut-ball. Folks as yourself would be first to straightened up in this new land, for there would no tolerance for your ignorance. Majority rule would take on a whole new form in this place where technology would surpass security and law. All of which wouldn’t matter anyways, because with all the natural gas we have under our lands, we would be over taken by some 3rd world country like Mexico move across our open border and take over our precious land. Look around you, you Paulbot’s, wake up, it isn’t 1775 …60 or 12, you are all like
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:45pmHobbs, This is for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
Report Post »inblack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:54pmI’m voting for Romney. But he is no Ron Paul.
I would be disappointed if RP endorsed Romney other than to say vote for him to get Obama out.
Gary Johnson is a non-starter. If you are not pro life, you are not a libertarian.
I see it this way, Ron Paul would save the country, Romney will maintain it, Obama will destroy it.
Report Post »Copper Catfish
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:56pmWell, there is a big difference between RP and B0: RP wants to legalize marijuana for all, and B0 doesn’t, maybe so he can keep it all to himself? lol
Report Post »R2 have said they will audit the Fed, so RP can go home now.
XScramblerX
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:59pmDon’t give your support Ron! These republican jerks call you and your supporters morons. The supporters that won Congress in 2010. The heart if the tea party! The supporters who gave America a second chance, then they sh it on us. I would tell them to suffer with Obama for another round, we will gladly vote for whom ever you are backing! The republicans haven’t learned anything yet again!
Report Post »Oldmantex
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:02pmI just love how people criticize Ron Paul for only passing one bill in 14 yrs. DON’T you get it!!! The constitution is all we needed, the STATES should be governing the people NOT the fed. You are angry because the guy didn’t pass more laws for you to follow? WOW you people really are dense.
Im going to vote for Romney only because it will slow down the bleeding out of this great land, then spend the next 4 yrs getting more constitutional conservatives in congress.
My fellow Ron Paul peeps, just vote for Romney and buy us sometime to get more constitutionalists in congress. That is where we can enact true change, NOT with the POTUS.
If the roof is leaking you dont just walk away from it because you wanted a new roof and could not afford it. You patch the roof, and buy you sometime to save up for what you need.
We put Romney in office and then replace those in congress where the power lies, and then worry about the right POTUS down the road.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:03pmMitt Romney is another empty suit for the Rothschilds/Rockefeller un Federal Reserve.. He is financed by the same Sharia Compliant Banking Instititions as Obama.. Here is multiple choice Romney http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2×2W4GhSLlQ
Due to the notoriety of Brandon Ruab..the decorated 26 yr old marine who was taken in recently..it was discovered that in Virginia alone..there are 20 thousand civil committments that go unreported..people just dissappearing and being taken to mental institutions..This is where Romney stands on NDAA..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaIJSICjPos
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Report Post »saranda
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:06pm@hbtrux – in fact i think you will find that Romney was no fan of Reagan as recently as ten hears ago. just another that he changed his mind on in his fifties. honestly, does Romney have any core beliefs other than Jesus visiting America and all the other lds stuff.
Report Post »stopspendingourmoney
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:06pmI like Ron Paul and he was my first choice and I will always be a fan of his but for the good of my country I will vote for Romney, although I don’t think he will turn this country around I hope I am wrong. I can maybe see him slowing the car but it still goes off the cliff. We needed a Ron Paul to stop and turn the car around/country…
Report Post »Claudius
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:12pmI like Ron Paul but if he splits the Republican vote and gives Obama a second term – I’ll never forgive him. He needs to do what is best for the country and stop focusing on himself. I want to hear a statement from him saying that he doesn’t want a single voter writing him in on the ballot.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:30pm@Oldmantex,
Report Post »I’m sorry bro. I like your ability to think in terms of buying time by voting in the guy least likely to harm your goals, but when you claim it‘s people like me who criticize Paul for not passing any of the millions of bills he writes that don’t get it, I think you‘re the one who’s missing the point.
It‘s not courageous to stand on the sidelines claiming the rules are all wrong and you won’t play that way. You have to get in the game, and fight with your side to win. Paul’s whole shtick is summarized in this: I’m the only pure one here, and I‘m going to keep writing these bills no one wants to vote for while claiming it’s because I‘m the only one who hasn’t compromised his principles.
Silly man: if you’re the one with the right principles, how come you can’t convince a majority to play ball with you? True conservatives CAN work with people who agree with them on 90% of the issues. In fact, (and here’s the biggest place Paul is NO Reagan) true conservatives can work on an issue where the only side only agrees with them 20%–they BUILD on what common ground they have, instead of doing the COWARDLY thing and refusing to endorse the people who HAVE the POWER (remember, if you don’t win, you can’t change anything–the rest is just WHINING), while complaining that no one is listening to them.
Paullowers, stop withholding your support, and make the only right pragmatic choice left!
Mandors
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:32pmDidn’t read any of this chat drivel.
I have shoes more intelligent than Ron Paul.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:32pmRemember when Glenn Beck was against big govt, the new world order and said he was glad Obama beat McCain?
Report Post »But then he sold out to Israel and his neocon buddy Pat.
mamatango
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:35pm@ Louise
What SHE Said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Louise!!!
Report Post »Gums
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:43pmTo every Ronpot and Conservative telling me to be nice to these culties: Screw you, you, you, you, you, you, youyou, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you and you.
Um, if any of you conservatives think it is rational to try and sort these idiots out with logic I will tell you through experience, they aren’t logical. They are ideologues. They are no different than the Obots in 2008. In many cases they are much worse because they sincerely believe the U.S. is the problem, while many of them were just trapped in the spotlight.
Um, S.C. Patriot: I said before and I will say again: You are trying to pull a Nader/Perot on this election because you are so egotistical and fanatical that you can’t accept the fact that your old man Herr Paul LOOOOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So you want to bring the whole country DOWN in protest as the last whimper of a used up warped ideology that only works on the ignorant, the anti-American and anti-Semitic. YOU are MY enemy til death. I swear it. Every last one of you Ronpots that trying to pull this crap are.
Report Post »Wool-Free Vision
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:44pmClaudius, that is exactly what I was hoping to hear from Ron Paul today. This half-assed position he is taking is nothing short of a backhanded jab at the heart of the republic which he holds so dear. I have had a lot of respect for Dr. Paul and supported most of his positions, but I am with you: If this election is lost to the left by an equal or lesser percentage of votes than the write-ins for Paul and the votes for Johnson, I will blame Ron Paul’s ego as fully as I blame the democrats for it. He knows the stakes in this election, and he needs to fix this.
Why the hell couldn’t he have started sooner? We Conservatives were STARVED for a candidate like him in 2008, but now the stakes are too high and we MUST vote for the republican nominee. If he had been as vocal and stubborn leading up to the ‘08 election, he would have OWNED it – we HATED McCain. Now he will have to wait until 2016 to make his case again, IF we still have an election by then. That is how crucial this election is, and it is why we can’t afford to gamble on Ross Perot II: Because we are terrified of the consequences of losing.
Report Post »Wool-Free Vision
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:46pmClaudius, that is exactly what I was hoping to hear from Ron Paul today. This half-assed position he is taking is nothing short of a backhanded jab at the heart of the republic which he holds so dear. I have had a lot of respect for Dr. Paul and supported most of his positions, but I am with you: If this election is lost to the left by an equal or lesser percentage of votes than the write-ins for Paul and the votes for Johnson, I will blame Ron Paul’s ego as fully as I blame the democrats for it. He knows the stakes in this election, and he needs to fix this.
Why the hell couldn’t he have started sooner? We Conservatives were STARVED for a legitimate candidate like him in 2008, but now the stakes are too high and we MUST vote for the republican nominee. If he had been as vocal and stubborn leading up to the ‘08 election, he would have OWNED it – we HATED McCain. Now he will have to wait until 2016 to make his case again, IF we still have an election by then. That is how crucial this election is, and it is why we can’t afford to gamble on Ross Perot II: Because we are terrified of the consequences of losing.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:55pm@CLAUDIUS Then most of us will simply vote for the other Libertarian..Gary Johnson..
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:02pmI guess Ron Paul just doesn’t want to disappoint the one who moved him to go to Washington D.C.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:10pm@GUMS
You are a horrible disgusting person. Please find a foul moth liberal site to troll on.
Report Post »Kristina In Americaland
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:38pmObama will start a war to win this election.
Argue or agree?
http://kristinainamericaland.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/hell-freezes-over-chinese-state-run-media-get-it-100-right/
Report Post »Shran-For-President
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:45pmRon Paul cannot win so any vote for him is exactly what Obama wants. The idiots that voted for Perot in ‘92 thought they were making a statement, a moral stand; instead they gave Clinton the presidency – and Clinton took credit for the Reagan/Bush economic fruit – while he destroyed the very economy that created it. Clinton planted the seeds of our economic destruction with the Community Reinvestment Act which caused the housing collapse in ‘08. He trashed our economy in other ways too; remember that Bush took over a new recession that was worse than the one Obama inherited – but Bush got us out of it in 18 months. Clinton got in office because of idiots voting for Perot even though Perot could not win. They were making a statement. Attention Paul supporters, I agree with Paul on most things too, and would vote for him IF HE COULD WIN! But don’t let Paul take away votes from the only candidate with a chance to save us from Obama. Vote for Mitt just to save the country – you can still support Paul – he will still have his seat and can help make a difference. But he can’t help if Obama is in office; nobody can help if Obama wins.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:55pmGUMS, Bring it on wimp.
WOOL-FREE, He was running in 2008, but people were more blind then than they are now.
Claudius, I have given up the notion of writing in Paul as I believe that with the blatant federal crimes the RNC and Romney campaign have done in the primary, they would figure out how to turn those votes to Romney. We will put our support behind Johnson. Here is something that could be a sign: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrU6hTWyj6s&feature=player_embedded#!
Report Post »audiemurphy
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:06pmC’mon Louise .
Report Post »Lets be honest. Ron Paul has some good points but the man is delusional and off kilter at the best of times. He attracts nut bars to him and that says it all.
I respect your age but seriously Ron Paul as president haha hahahahahahaa
“ old people although slow and dangerous behind the wheel can still serve a purpose ”
- quote from dumb and dumber
Wool-Free Vision
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 11:34pmWest Coast Patriot, I know Paul ran in ‘08. I think what I was really asking is where the hell were YOU in ‘08? And by “you” I mean you legion of Paulbots.
I remember dealing with O-bots by the thousands on message boards like this, but Paul supporters were very few and far between. I was wide awake and praying for some alternative to the spineless RINO McCain, but most of the folks who are so vehemently promoting Paul this time around were still chugging the DNC/white-guilt/blame-Bush Kool-Aid back in ‘08 when a third party candidate might have actually had a chance.
Come back and try to win me over again in 2016. If Romney doesn’t live up to the platform, you will have my undivided attention, and I’m pretty sure that I speak for the vast majority of Tea Party Conservatives when I say that. But first we must take care of this most pressing business of getting the czar-appointing, executive-privilege-abusing, teleprompter-reading, money-spending, tax-raising, gun-running, fiat-spewing, Constitution-destroying, caliphate-instigating, class-warfare-mongering, race-baiting, back-room-dealing, handout-promoting, crony-capitalist, industry-killing, slander-slinging, partial-birth-abortion-advocating, dissent-sowing, ally-snubbing, enemy-abetting, ring-kissing, community-agitating deceiver-in-chief OUT of OUR Oval Office.
I am already afraid of the ways he will screw us for 3 months as a lame duck, but 4 more years is absolutely terrifying.
Report Post »UnCL3
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:45amWriting in L. Ron Paul is the same as voting for Obama (as LOTS of the Ronulans did last cycle).
I hope you enjoy what freedom that’s left if Obama gets elected again.
If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.
Report Post »Airgun
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:53amHmm, I was selected as a delegate in my hometown, and what I saw was an overwhelming vote for Romney by the public who voted in the primary; however almost all the people left after casting a ballot, so almost no-one saw that the people who stayed behind were Paulistinians who ignored the will of the people who voted and elected each other to the delegate slots at the national level. Strange, but that’s exactly what happened when Obama was elected, on top of all the fraud.
Report Post »The problem with Ron Paul is 10% his policies, and 90% dishonesty by his supporters, who seem to subscribe to the lefty mantra that the end justifies the means- so screw the public and the rule of law.
its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:31amrecords show you havent done a whole lot for the years youve been there. we may get them to finally audit the fed. we would be better off to get rid of them all together by putting them in jail for all the money they have stolen over the years.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:00amOLDMANTEX You nailed it with the ‘well what has he accomplished in congress in 14 yrs’? That’s the complaint we hear from those simpletons,somehow they equate creating new laws and regulations to giving us liberty and freedom from government. They have issues with logic and reason and I also agree we‘ll have to vote for Romney to buy some time because if the jug eared Marxist is left in power we won’t last another four years.
Report Post »IsThereADifference
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:31amGUMS
Report Post »Republicans should have chosen a better candidate. They chose progressivism and they will LOSE because of it.
When Mitt Romney loses this race to Obama I’m going to seek you out and laugh in your face everyday. Jackass
The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:08pmI WILL VOTE FOR GARY JOHNSON IF SOMEBODY CAN ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS
1. What chance does Gary Johnson have of winning? A percentage chance would be nice
2. Why do you think a Romney presidency is absolutely equatable to Obama’s?
3. What if Gary Johnson loses by a landslide, i.e., getting 1-2%?
Report Post »bubblesofjoy
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:06pmAmen!
Report Post »Claudius
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:40pmAnyone who writes in is voting for Obama. There is no third choice. If you put Johnson or Paul, you’ve voted for Obama and shirked your responsibility toward the Nation. If you help Obama destroy the country by giving him a second term, then like Obama, you will have to answer to the Founder of this Nation for destroying it. God would not put us in a situation with no right choices; you have a choice to make and cannot sit on the sidelines. Those on the fence have chosen Obama and will be held accountable for their votes.
Report Post »Jan Conroy
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:11pmLouise, you are old enough to remember the fable about the dog in the manger. Ron Paul and his cultish followers are acting like that dog. Ron Paul CANNOT get himself nominated as the Republican challenger to Obama, so he would rather Romney not succeed in unseating the most anti-American president in the history of the Republic. That makes Ron Paul; and his Paulbot followers traitors to the Republic, not the patriots they like to promote themselves as being. Mitt Romney may not be the ideal candidate to take over the reins of the Republic, but, electing him is a far better plan than throwing a temper tantrum — like a bunch of spoiled three year-old brats told that they cannot have a second cookie — and letting BO retain the power to destroy us all. I used to respect Dr. Paul, but familiarity breeds contempt — the more I see, the more I dislike. He puts himself before the Republic, that does not make him a statesman — it makes him a treasonous bastard right up there along side Benedict Arnold and Barack Hussein Obama (or whatever his real name is).
Report Post »Panman
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:16pmAll I want to say in regard to this story is the following: I have been following what has been going on with the delegate process for the last few months, and in particular during the last few weeks. And if anyone had even suggested that something like what the GOP has been doing with their tricks and downright dishonest actions to keep Ron Paul and his people away from the convention, I would have told them they are CRAZY!
Well, now it seems it is the leadership in the Republican party who has gone CRAZY! This is not very much to do with an honest democracy, does it? And topping it all of, now they will allow Ron Paul to speak IF he agrees to: a) Fully endorse Mitt Romney. b) Have his speech censored by the GOP leadership BEFORE he gives it.
What is this? The former Sovjet Union? How well I understand my US friends when they have had shed tears in front of me talking about what has happened to their country!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:20pmThat’s what gets me as well. What kind of terms are those anyway, and who in the hell would accept them, regardless of the politics in question?
Of course the Blaze if filled with RP haters who are, as always, out in force and sneering just like the Left does when THEY too do character attacks and ad hominem. Not a one of them bothered to actually *read* the article in full, or they’d be embarrassed, snarling at a man who won’t allow a group to censor his words as a condition of attendance.
Report Post »louise
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:31pmPanman, Ghost of Jefferson….excellent posts from you both,
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:04pmRepublican party is still controlled by RINOs and corrupt beaucrats
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:25pm“Paul chose not to speak at the Republican National Convention, saying the mandatory endorsement of Mitt Romney would “undo everything” he has done for the bulk of his career.“ For 10yrs of that ”career” he put out a very nice newsletter. Other than that what has he done?
Report Post »amtsoundsmith
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:15pmIf Ron Paul is a Libertarian why does he STILL have an “R” next to his name???
Report Post »usedCZARsalesman
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:27pmActually GHOST, most of the comments I’ve read (of course, not all) have been directed to RPs followers…I agree with you though, you MUST let the man speak and say WHATEVER he wants…the people deserve to hear him
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:46pmI am a registered Republican but believe in libertarian ideals. Libertarianism isn’t just a party, it’s a thought process. You can still be a Republican (capital R as in the party) but believe in libertarianism (lower case L, as in the ideals).
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:10pmAmerican Soldier, Do you think this could be a sign? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrU6hTWyj6s&feature=player_embedded#!
Report Post »If this is a sign of something that is going to happen, it could blow the entire general election up.
inblack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:29pm@PANMAN – this is how the two party system works, the winner sets the rules as RP could have had he gotten more than 10%.
@AMTSOUNDSMITH – Yeah you big govt chicken-hawks neocons would love for us to leave the party – then you wouldn’t win any seats – idiot.
Report Post »ThankBabyJesus
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:10pmI’d vote for 1000 people before I vote a Ron Paul isolationsidency
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:13pmYou clearly have no idea what isolationism actually means, and have bought the DEMOCRAT inspired definition without even bothering to question it.
I’m not going to explain it to you, you need to figure out what actual isolationism is on your own.
Report Post »grimmster
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:39pm@ghost.
Report Post »My question to you is, do YOU know what isolationism is, and please dont quote wikipedia…
For all you paulbots, paul has been in politics since the 70′s, all he IS, is a politicain,no matter what he says, or you believe he says.ron paul is not nor ever has been a soultion to the problem in washington, he has ALWAYS been a part of the problem.Just because the only three things that has ever been on his platform are, legalize elicitedrugs, isolationisn, and audit the fed, doesnt mean he will FIX a damn thing.Stick a fork in that old idiot, hes done……
MontaraMissileMan
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:03pm@Grimm: Yes, but he has also not sold out his convictions and continues to not sell them out as he has shown today. You wanted a good man of character and you were given the chance to elect someone who would have done something, but instead you have picked someone who has no back bone, no character, and is an easy target of the current administration.
You had a chance to vote for Liberty but instead you bought into the lie. Good luck in the next 4 years after Romney gets stomped. I’m prepared, I hope you are too.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:04pm@ThankBabyJesus
Report Post »That makes you an interventionist. Thoughts?
jadams1214
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:10pm@grimmster so all the babies he delivered is something all politicians do.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:53pm@THANKBABYJESUS
You are clueless. Spending other peoples money, a $1 trillion annually, so you can play global bully and policeman is beyond interventionism, it is immoral.
We have no need to poke our noses into other countries civil wars.
Try reading the constitution and the federalist papers to learn what is appropriate for the US govt to do. It sure as hell is not this. We could spend 1/3 as much and have all the power we need to protect our country. Intervening in other countries makes us the aggressors or Saudi Arabia’s patsy, or Europe’s patsy, or Israel’s patsy.
Report Post »Gums
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:09pmRon Paul is an IDIOT. Who cares? Screw him and his cult like groupies.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:18pmGUMS, Your attitude and others of the same is going to give us another four.
Report Post »Gums
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:29pmThis coming from someone who will throw away his vote and sign in Ron Paul?
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:40pmIt’s amazing to me that Tea Party members who supposedly dislike the Republican establishment, but will go and vote for the establishments choice.
They are the establishment for a reason, because they only care about advancing the parties name and power.
Both establishments in both parties only care about their party, not actual policies.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:41pmGums, I have given that idea up. With the criminal activity in stripping delegates, committing federal crimes, I believe they would find a way to give those votes to Romney. If Romney is the nominee, which I believe he will, I will start to campaign for Gary Johnson and push the Liberty movement in that direction in order to get him in the debates. No voter who is for Liberty and freedom will vote for Romney. Just stating facts.
Report Post »Gums
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:56pmS.C. Patriot: So you’re goal is to try and give Obama another 4 years. Okay, you are my enemy. All of you are. I will never forget it or forgive it.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:08pm@GUMS
Let me translate Gums statements for you all.
“You don’t support my moron? How dare you! You’re the problem. You think for yourself? What a fool!”
Report Post »Constitutional_Conservatism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:12pmGums, you are the reason we won’t vote for Romney. Show us some kindness, stop cheating us and then MAYBE we would support Romney. Unfortunately it is too late for that. RON PAUL 2012!!
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:52pmas much as i would want to get rid of Obama we can’t replace him with someone much worse and who would be a mass murderer and a ruthless dictator of people.
Report Post »Kenszen
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:02am@Individualism Could you please tell us all how you come to this assessment of Romney?:
[He would be a] “mass murderer and a ruthless dictator of people.”
Please?
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:42pmNDAA (read: Brandon Raub). USA PATRIOT Act. Supports Bernanke. Supports ridiculous foreign entanglements.
If this is not enough, I’m sure there are others who would fill you in with chapter and verse.
These are the reasons Romney will not get my vote.
The Paul campaign lost me, too, when they started waffling and getting all wishy-washy and namby-pamby. Rand Paul’s actions really twisted my tail.
I’ll vote Johnson. I may not agree with him on abortion, but that will not matter if we’re in re-education camps, anyway.
Report Post »winin2012
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:08pmIf Obama wins, Ron Paul’s movement will be dead. If Romney wins, Ron Paul’s movement will live to fight on through Rand Paul and a million Americans who believe in him. Don’t let the movement die–Vote for Romney.
Report Post »derby
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:16pmThank you!!!!!!!!!!! Four more years of executive orders and Obamacare will put the death knell in freedom. We have to win – please Ron Paul people – wake up!!!! We need your energy and help to defeat Democrats!!!
Report Post »PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:16pmI am not a liberal, I am not a conservative and frankly I have no loyalty to ANY party or way of thinking. In fact I’m 28 and have never voted in a presidential election. 2008 I overslept at a friend‘s house with the intent of both of us going out to vote but really we didn’t care. So really not a hypocrite, just a person that doesn’t have a right to complain. In these last four years I had a conversion on top of thinking I was already a Christian (only a CINO before but I had an eye opener) and all the apathy and self destruction melted away to be replaced by convictions. Cold hard uncompromising convictions. So yes it’s cowardice to vote against your convictions and principles or whatever and though I may not understand why, but the thought of voting for R&R gives me an icky feeling worse than voting for Obama. If it‘s Gary Johnson up to bat for small government then I’m all for it. I say it again, voting against your principles is cowardice and Obama should win just for that.
Report Post »PutMoreOnMyPlate
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:20pmGod bless Paul for sticking to his principles ;) This country ain‘t worth saving for people that act out of fear if it’s not to defend those principles.
Report Post »derby
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:48pmA vote for Ron Johnson is a vote for Obama. And as for Ron Paul not being allowed to say any darned thing he wants at the convention to nominate Romney, well it would make no sense to allow him to speak if he’s not going to help unify the party. That is the ENTIRE POINT of any party convention – to unify the party. Ron Paul people never intended on unifying – I know – I talked to plenty of them. It was Ron Paul or no one for them in the Republican Party. He and even his different ideas would be welcome at the convention if he was dedicated to unity, but he never was and never will be.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:08pmexcellent point!
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:22pmPutMoreOnMyPlate – Please go see the movie – 2016, Obama’s America. After seeing it I hope you and the Paul supporters will then know how important it is to unite for Romney/Ryan and not give your vote away to a third party. So much is riding on this election, we need your support.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:25pm@winin2012
Report Post »As neither Romney or Obama will restore the Constitution, the Ron Paul (Liberty) movement will continue
Individualism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:34pmNo Gary Johnson is the next person for them to go to. Gary Johnson will follow the constitution, Romney and Obama are like Hitler and Stalin.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:38pmDERBY: BINGO! the convention isn’t a Ron Paul rally! If his Bots want a Ron Paul love-in then start the NeoLib Party and rent a room.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:13pmIndividualism, I just saw this new video from Gary Johnson, could it be a sign of what is to come? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrU6hTWyj6s&feature=player_embedded#!
If it is, the general election would get very interesting.
Report Post »ChrisPax
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:07pmRon Paul is the man.
Report Post »nobull14
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:07pmRon Paul should have retired a long time ago , Ron lost the primary and now should crap and get off the pot .
Report Post »FloridaFarmGirl
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:06pmRon Paul has had 30 years and he accomplished what? That’s what I thought, pretty much nothing. Go retire Mr. Paul and enjoy the rest of your life, the rest of us need to get things done.
Report Post »Todd P
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:19pmYes, and please do it soon!
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:06pmSo what is preventing you from getting things done, besides excuses
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:14pmHi Soybomb315,
How are you doing today?
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:15pmFloridaFarmGirl
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:06pm
Ron Paul has had 30 years and he accomplished what?
================================
If only the other 434 member of Congress during that period of time had accomplished “nothing” too…
Progressives simply love for the government to do “something” or to give them “something”.
Report Post »Constitutional_Conservatism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:16pmThank you for your kind words. Still not voting for Romney.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:31pmSo do you agree with everything that Congress has done in the last 30 years? the last 20? The last 10? The last 4? It blows my mine how Congress has a single digit approval rating and how we all complain about everything Congress has done, from decades of over spending, over regulating, over taxation, taking away our freedoms with The Patriot Act, NDAA and bailouts after bailouts, and you sit there and complain that a man, ONE man, who stood up against those other politicians that you hate so much, and you criticize him for that?!
He has been against the grain of the SOP in Washington. We wanted change in Washington, so what do we do? Criticize the one man who, more often than not, stood ALONE against his fellow representatives.
This line of thinking makes absolutely no sense to me at all….
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:55pmGary Johnson has accomplished much more than Romney and has a much better record as Governor.
Report Post »RANGER1965
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:00pmIf you write in a vote for Ron Paul, Jesus Christ, George Washington, Rush Limbaugh, or any other figure real or imagined, then you are voting for Obama.
You may not like it. You may have the highest of ideals, and reasoning for doing it. But it’s still nothing more than a lame and childish vote for Obama.
Don’t let foolish pride drag you down.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:10pmOr the actions of the Theater of the Absurd Conservative Players confuse you with their scripted posts of Media Matters play acting. Glitter Troll Bombing the Blaze with so-called Ron Paul comments.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:12pmFalse
That claim implies that our votes belong automatically to a party without our choice being involved, and if we do exercise our own free will, because a party refuses to offer up anything except refried mediocrities, that somehow you get to assign our votes to the other side as you please.
If you can‘t earn somebody’s vote, don’t blame him, take a minute to point the finger back at yourself and your own party for not being effective or offering a “product” that others want to buy.
Your logic makes no sense, and must necessarily be disregarded until you present qualifiers or a new argument.
Slainte.
Report Post »Fatheroftwo
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:13pmSorry! Don’t buy your reasoning! Whatever name I choose to write in IS the person I VOTE for! It is the people who vote FOR Obama that elect him NOT the other way around! Romney has a long way to go to prove himself better than Obama!
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:21pmRon Paul really needs to separate what he’s accomplished from what he has said as part of is platform, once he comes to terms with reality maybe he could stop complaining and help us oust the Marxist socialist.
Report Post »Todd P
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:24pmCorrect. Any vote that does not go to R&R does not help him; it does however increase the chance the chance that O will win if it is close. Only someone’s arrogance would allow their vote to be wasted when it could be used to preserve the Constitutional nation. O will surely destroy the country utterly in the next 4 years. There are only 2 people who have a serious chance at being president in 2013 – and RP is not one of them. Therefore, a vote for anyone else is wasted.
ROMNEY / RYAN 2012
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:27pmFather : ” Romney has a long way to go to prove himself better than Obama.” At least you are an honest Lefty. Not dying to pose as a Ron Paul supporter. I completely disagree with you . Barack Obama is an anti-capitalist , divisive, class / race baiting , angry man. He is very good at all of the aforementioned. Sorry that you do not see behind the Smoke , the Mirrors and the Teleprompter.
Report Post »ExTex
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:35pmAgreed. What Paul supporters (Libertarians) fail to recognize is that the battle they fight is in the Primaries. Once you lose the battle in the primaries, it’s too late to make your case and do any good for THIS election. Ron Paul has ZERO chance of winning in November. Therefore, you’re just throwing your vote away. Voting on principle is mute at this point. You should’ve made your case during the primaries when it counted. Now you’re just representing the “Coulda Woulda Shoulda” bunch.
While I, as a conservative, agree with libertarians on most issues, I disagree that voting Republican is the same as voting Democrat. Marxists have taken over the Democratic Party. And while there progressives in the Repulican Party, the party platform is not based on progressive ideals.
And lasty, if Ron Paul doesn’t want to help or support his party, then he should stop running for office under the Repulican party and switch to an Independant or Libertarian or whatever. I get tired of seeing the R by his name when he does nothing to support the R that got him there.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:35pmGary Johnson is on ballot in all 50 states and he best record as governor and best positions.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:38pmI’ve made the decision to vote for Gary Johnson.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:53pmThey want to punish the neocons with Obama for not kneeling at the alter of Paul. Get it? As if they such power……they couldn‘t even win Paul’s home state of Texas.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:23pmAmerican Soldier, If Paul is out, which that is what it looks like with the criminal activity of the RNC and Romney campaign, I have come to the same conclusion and will be campaigning for him to all Liberty voters.
Report Post »Fatheroftwo
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:43pmBarber2:
Report Post »Anywhere in my previous post say anything about who I will vote for? Obama WILL NOT get my vote! Romney has yet to earn my vote! Maybe you should learn what it is you speak to before you speak! That way you don’t look the fool!
West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:53pmFatherofTwo, I am also, and Barber2 is quick to bash just like the left that he calls everyone that does not agree with him. If Ron Paul is not in, which that is what it is looking like from the criminal activity of the RNC and Romney campaign against him, I hope you will at least look at Gary Johnson. http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/
Report Post »Those that say a third party cannot win are wrong. In this election, people are fed up with the status quo, they are not in support of Romney (they all say he stinks so bad that they have to hold their nose to pull the lever).
Watch out people, this could be a sign: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrU6hTWyj6s&feature=player_embedded#!
Fatheroftwo
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:48pmWest Coast Patriot:
Report Post »Thanks for the tip! I’ve been seeing more of Mr. Johnson’s name pop up lately and I will be doing some investigation! Peace Brother!
SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:43pmGary Johnson well he’s just a Johnson.
Report Post »Verity58
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:59pmIndividuals are elected to office not parties, by backing the party system you are backing collectivism, people are so dumbed down that they are no longer capable of logical thought.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:08pmSome people so dumbed down that they become sycophantic followers of a wildly unpopular Loser in his repeated, humiliating failures as a Presidential candidate.
Report Post »derby
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:24pmYou really don’t understand politics if you think this. The two party system, as flawed as it is, has helped to ensure our freedom. Look at parliamentarian systems around the world. Ultimately, individuals align with one another to form ideological pseudo-parties to push their world view forward and to gain and keep power. When this doesn’t happen, they have to dissolve and start again because they can’t get anything done at all. Chaos ensues. People in both parties have widely varying viewpoints, but they come together in order to actually get something done.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:57pmGary Johnson is your next man to vote for after Paul.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:56pmRon Paul, biggest RINO of them all.
I’ve noticed how paulbots like to throw the RINO term at any politician with an “R” after his name, yet we all know that RP would more benefit a party like the Libertarian or the Constitution party. Only RP wouldn‘t bother with them because he knows he wouldn’t have a shot in hell with them, so he mascarades as a Republican.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:03pmEverybody thanks you for your ritual public display of libertarian/Ron Paul hate. You have performed well and as expected by the collective.
This story was about Paul not giving an unconditional nod to Romney, and the GOP only letting him speak if THEY get to choose his words for him. Politics or no politics, no good man would speak under those terms, they’re downright Soviet to “demand”.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:06pmI have often wondered why the heck here guys are considered ” republicans.” They are a separate group by their own choice. If these angry ” hold-outs” tear up the convention, then the reason these guys have stayed here is quite obviously a Democrat drone ploy to Divide the Conservatives and throw in some anarchy. By their actions they shall be known.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:09pmKickinBack, You just do not have a clue of what the GOP is supposed to be.
“If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.” – Ronald Reagan
The RNC has become as corrupt as the DNC therefore becoming the same. They violated many of their own rules, changed the rules to suit their ends, violated federal law in order to nominate their chosen candidate from the beginning. The RNC is responsible for everything that caused all the rest of the candidates in the beginning to drop out or suspend their campaigns, but I do not expect the blind to research this or maybe not have the skills to research effectively in order to find the truth. The truth does not live here at the Blaze as they block many truths that I have tried to post. They are part of the MSM. Go on living blind, Romney is not going to defeat Obama. If you have the fortitude, watch this entire speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWeG30xyZXc&feature=youtu.be
Report Post »I doubt you will as you want to remain asleep.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:14pmYes Barber, a simple disagreement about ideology is necessarily a Democrat plot. They’ve fuddled you again, dang nabit.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:52pmGhost, I didn’t say I hate libertarians, you said that. Don’t be so quick to pass the hate around…Only it’s expected of your kind, so I won’t bother anymore with you.
WestCoastP, If you want to get your point across, don’t write a ******* book. Seriously. If I want to read tabloid rhetoric, I’d rather go to supermarket and pay for it.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:59pmZionists are Zionists not Republicans.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:48pmHi Mutiny,
Looks like I got one part of my two part question to you (back on the bear story) answered in this story.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:49pmOops, looks like I got “both” questions answered in this story.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:17pmThe-Monk, Again, I posted this very story on The Blaze before they did, all because I get my news from Daily Paul: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/scare-tactic-obama-says-romney-holds-extreme-positions-of-house-gop-that-he-would-push-through-if-elected/
I do not want to take credit, but only point out, The Blaze not only lags, but blocks many of my stories just because they show Romney in a bad light. In fact I have been trying to get some breaking stories you will not see on the MSM or The Blaze that is going to put Romney’s run for President in dire jeopardy, but The Blaze will not let it through, shameful to keep everyone in the dark.
Report Post »I have saved most of my blocked posts in a word doc. I try over and over again to no avail. So much for truth.
The-Monk
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:44pmHi West Coast Patriot,
As for blocked posts PLEASE try this. Look for words that contain these 3 letters in a succession.
C U M. Here are two examples…. c i r c u m s t a c e s and i n c u m b e n t .
Any word containing these 3 letters in succession automatically blocks the entire post. I made The Blaze aware of this last week and they are trying to resolve the “software glitch”. You MUST use spaces like I did above for the post to be allowed.
Please check your saved posts and give me some feedback. TIA
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:02pmHi West Coast Patriot,
Also, please do this for me. Check your saved rejected posts for words that contain “bad” words or curse words. Like the c u m issue. Send them to me using spaces and I’ll run tests on them. This will help everyone. TIA.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:07pmThe-Monk, I tried ten times:
Report Post ». I wish all Republicans would wake up to what is really going on. We are not a Republic anymore, and if you really look at how our government has been operating for three decades, really look, you may start to understand. We have been under the thumb of an oligarchy for quite some time. Both parties are run under this oligarchy and it does not matter who becomes President if they are the p i c k of the establishment.
When you look at the way the RNC is handling the prImary and the conventIons, I t becomes apparent that they are just as corr upt as the DNC. When t h e establishment GOP f orced delegates to sIgn an affi davit stating they would vote for Romney on the first round with the t h r e a t of p erjury c harges, that viIolate d f ederal law, 42 USC 1971 (b) Intimidation, threats, or coercion. The RNC v i olated rule 11 when they started backing Romney before he was the only candidate running. After Ron Paul won the plurality of delegates, by following the rules, in seven states, the RNC tried to change the rules to ten states, when that failed, by one vote, they started s tri pp ing duly elected delegates of their seats. Now they have c h an g e d the rules and have allowed a presumptive nominee, not nominee, to have d ictator style power at the natl convention. Are you guys really OK with them them doing all this? No matter how much you disagree with Paul on some issues, you agree that election fraud is bad
The-Monk
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:12pmHi West Coast Patriot,
PLEASE READ MY ABOVE POSTS AND REPLY.
This also goes for anyone else you is having posts that never post. TIA
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:24pmThe-Monk, I guess that one posted just fine below, I just do not know. I tried to send a link here but it will not go through. It is from The Hill news. ???
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:48pmRon Paul can’t endorse Romney. Romney is the poster child politician Ron Paul stands against. I can’t believe the slimy worm thought RP would speak after editing his speech. He truly doesn’t get it and niether does the media. This article is a perfect example. Saying he built a strong following on small government. Sure that’s part of it, but civil liberties, warmongering, and the federal reserve are all issues that draw people into RP’s camp. I don’t know how to make people get it, but it’s irrelevant now. Romney and the GOP can suck it, as far as I’m concerned. They‘re as corrupt as the democrats and that’s just disgusting. Maybe they’ll find themselves again once they get their asses handed to them by the worst president in US history. I‘m praying for a miracle that people realize that voting for the two party system means they’re voting for complete trash and go for Gary Johnson, I suppose. Regardless, the two party system is a beast that needs slayed before we’ll ever return to greatness.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:02pmJust: If you think living under this “ two party system” is tough , wait until you experience Obama’s next four years under his ONE PARTY System. This Big Brother guy is toxic to individual freedoms. Please WAKE UP.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:13pmHi Justangry,
I’m starting to see something else at play here. (Not The Blaze but with the system and Obama)
I‘ve been watching what’s going on in the middle east since BO took office. It’s not pretty. I can see the protracted effort for a Caliphate and BO seems to be supporting it. Without this happening in the World today, Dr. Paul would likely have more support. It’s his foreign policy that scares people.
I’m wondering if part of this US (Obama) support for a Caliphate is directed to scare people away from Dr. Paul.
What do you think?
Report Post »derby
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:14pmI wonder if JustAngry will share his or her age and who he or she voted for in the last Presidential election. These people are totally toxic. Many, if not most of them, are not Republicans and hate Romney more than they hate Obama. They were never going to vote Republican if Ron Paul was not the nominee. Ron Paul is all about Ron Paul and these suckers buy his schtick hook, line and sinker. They claim to care about freedom, but don’t want to stop BHO who is DAILY stripping our freedoms with executive orders, through his czars and appointees, and through dependence and debt. BHO people stay up nights thinking of ways to strip our freedom. Romney-Ryan will not do this. If you want libertarianism to have any chance in the future, we have to get rid of BHO and elect those who will repeal Obamacare. This needs to be the number one focus. If you think Romney is as bad as Obama, you are just deluded. I am 100% sure these people are planning something dubious at the GOP convention to try and destroy Romney.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:22pmJustAngry, I agree with you. When you look at the way the RNC is handling the primary and the conventions, it becomes apparent that they are just as corrupt as the DNC. When the establishment GOP forced delegates to sign an affidavit stating they would vote for Romney on the first round with the threat of perjury charges, that violated federal law, 42 USC 1971 (b) Intimidation, threats, or coercion. The RNC violated rule 11 when they started backing Romney before he was the only candidate running. After Ron Paul won the plurality of delegates, by following the rules, in seven states, the RNC tried to change the rules to ten states, when that failed, by one vote, they started stripping duly elected delegates of their seats. Now they have changed the rules and have allowed a presumptive nominee,not nominee, to have dictator style power at the natl convention. Are all you “Hold Your Nose” Romney supporters really OK with them doing all this? No matter how much you disagree with Paul on some issues, you have to agree that election fraud is wrong.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:25pm@bar. Some of us are awake. It is Time to Stand. If obama wins will you Stand or hide? If romney wins will you Stand or go along to get along? Freedom has a price. At this time i’m not sure which is the greater evil obama or romney. I also don’t think voting matters, our “leaders” will do what ever they want until We the People stop them.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:38pmCircledWagons, You are right about our vote. Look at what they are doing. The RNC has now given a presumptive nominee dictator type powers to change the rules without voting from the floor delegates! They stripped duly elected delegates by ignoring and changing rules during the primary. Watch this: http://www.fox19.com/story/19356821/reality-check-rncs-last-scramble-to-strip-delegates-before-the-convention
Wake up people.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:07pm“At this time i’m not sure which is the greater evil obama or romney.”
Hyperbole much? Its pretty clear which is the greater evil… It doesn’t take a rocket scientist… I’m not sure one is actually evil, perhaps ignorant and naive… One can only hope he has learned his lessons from past mistakes, if he wins…
The other is egotistical, thinks he is God, and wants to be a dictator… If we wins, it won’t matter what happens… We’ll all be locked up, tortured, and disappear…
In anycase doesn’t matter who you vote for, vote on principle fine. I’m sure other people think they are voting on principles as well, no matter what person they happen to be voting for…
What does matter, is united we stand, divided we fall…
Whoever, wins, we need to put fire to the president’s feet. Resist any unconstitutional actions… Even if that means we are locked away, never to see the light of day, or end up in mass graves… That will likely happen under current president, under a second term… Is that hyperbole? I’m not so sure anymore…
I think its less likely to happen under Romney, but still that doesn‘t mean it can’t happen. We must remain ever vigilent.
If anything, we must continue to clean up and reform congress, replacing it with better people… A strong, honest & true, congress can limit the powers of a bad president… But it will take all of congress with like-minded invidiuals to resist a bad president. If it is divided against itself
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:19pmRemember, until we the people take back congress, and put in true constitutionalists, there is less of a chance of ever putting in a better president. As long as a corrupt congress controls the ‘Electoral College”, the potential of corrupt presidents winning will always exist.
Reform congress, and we have a better chance of reforming the presidency.
We can‘t expect a ’benevolent‘ president to come in and ’reform’ the government for us, using executive power overnight… That is a form of ‘benevolent dictatorship” in itself. That would be resorting to the same actions that progressives have been using all along…
While a president could reverse actions through dictatorial executive orders, it would still leave open that the next president would go back to issuing new orders that reverses the previous presidents actions… No, the only way to make it more permanent is to reform congress, with like minded inviduals who are willing to use congress’s veto powers effectively. Who are also willing to impeach the president if he goes against the constitution.
Yes, we need to reform congress, and through them reform the executive branch…
We’ll also need to reform the judicial branch as well… Limit terms, etc. But that will also take time.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:35pm@Derby, No one in the republican congress has said a word about those executive orders. Most of the republicans in the congress supported all of the anti-freedom legislation BO signed into law. The republican congress could have defunded Obama’s ability to enforce anything if they were against what he was doing. The republicans are just as much for the police state as the democrats. Stop pretending they are any better than the commie in chief or we’re screwed. You can’t trust a party that rigged the primaries the way they have. You can’t trust a politician that has no regard for your rights. You can’t trust a politician that attended the bilderberg conference, has bank accounts in the Cayman islands, thinks he has the right to kill you if he believes you to be a terrorist, etc. He doesn’t give a crap about you or this country anymore than the douchebag in the office now.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:11pm@Monk, Hey sorry I missed your post. I don’t know man. I’m guessing it all has to do with oil to be honest, but your guess is as good as mine. I don’t know what people are afraid of except our politicians that keep letting people from Muslim countries into ours while the clerics are still calling for the Jihad. I‘m more worried about what we’d do to innocents in terms of collateral damage than what they would do to our military. Even if they did manage to pull off the caliphate.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:29pmJustAngry, Take a look at this and tell me if you think it may be a sign. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrU6hTWyj6s&feature=player_embedded#!
I just wrote Johnson’s campaign and told them that if this could be accomplished, Johnson would get all the liberty voters and maybe more and I would start to donate.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:04pmHe‘s much better than the other two that’s for sure. I guess there really isn’t any other option though.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:51pm@West Coast..I was hoping that Gary Johnson could pull out some kind of miracle like having Paul on his ticket..but I was told that he had already endorsed a judge out of California..Things could change..and I wish that they would..I enjoyed Gary’s video..I knew that he was going to be at the Paul Fest..I was dissappointed in Adam.. I hope that changes too.. Oh well..thanks for the video..
Report Post »Wool-Free Vision
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:36pmThank you SacredHonor1776. Your words are music to my ears. You couldn’t be more dead-on accurate with everything you said.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:29am@Sacredhonor1776. Thank you. your words are better than mine. God bless you.
Report Post »MDECKER
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:42pmSometimes a situation arises where a tourniquet need be applied. You will probably lose the limb but the bleeding must be stopped. Romney isn’t Ronny but, Obama must go!
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:40pmI’m not sure what Ron Paul thinks he has accomplished. Although Ron Paul has BIG ideas (some good, some bad), he has been completely ineffective as a legislator, having passed only one bill over his 30 year political career.
Report Post »Spankster
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:54pmI didn’t know he passed anything,all he’s managed to do is try to split the ticket and keep Obummer in the whits house.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:00pmTri-Ox, The Republican Party has become a joke. There are no conservatives left, and you fall under that category. Paul has accomplished a lot. He sat in a mostly progressive Congress and tried to fight for the Constitution for thirty years, but progressives blocked him at every corner. He has been shunned because he refuses to submit to lobbyists, refused to give in even to Presidents on principle and you say he has done nothing. He became a Congressman because of Washington leaving the gold standard and starting us down the road to destruction. He has predicted everything we are facing today for thirty years, only to be called crazy at the time. How could anyone get a bill through when there is such mindsets? He did in fact wake up millions of people to the FED, but it took a few decades to do so, he was such a driving force in the primary this year to get the plurality of delegates in order to successfully get his name placed on the ballot for nomination, only to see the establishment RNC and GOP along with a criminal campaign illegally strip those elected delegates from their seats. He will go down in history as the only sane voice of the people of his day. You people are clueless.
Report Post »All Pro
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:10pmPaul Ryan, recently announced as Mitt Romney‘s running mate, has spent about 13 years in Congress. During that time, only two of his bills have become law.
One of those bills came in July 2000 and renamed a post office in Ryan’s district. As the Huffington Post notes, the “post office on 1818 Milton Ave. in Janesville, Wis., is now known as Les Aspin Post Office Building.”
The other came in December 2008, when Ryan tackled the excise tax on arrows (bows and arrows). His bill “amended the Internal Revenue Code to impose a 39-cent tax per arrow shaft, instead of a 12.4 percent tax on the sales price.” (Ryan himself is a bowhunter and took a personal interest in passing that bill.)
Report Post »http://www.mediaite.com/online/rep-paul-ryan-passed-two-bills-during-13-years-as-congressman/
barber2
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:18pmPRO: “only two of his bills have become laws.” GOOD for Ryan. We need LESS not more of so much ! The laws. The regulations. The taxes. The czars. The regulators. Enough is enough !
Report Post »Gums
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:23pmI find it very interesting that Ron Paul is coming up with attacks on Paul Ryan. This guy is clearly a backstabbing traitor who is gleefully trying to split the ticket to give Obama another election. Who paid him? Soros? We know he wrote a bill with Barney Frank for George Soros. This lunatic wants to burn the country to the ground. All of the Ronpot groupies do.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:30pmHi West Coast Patriot,
“The Republican Party has become a joke.”
Agreed. Will you tell me your thoughts on this;
Report Post »What do Dr. Paul supporters think of the Tea Party (in general)?
Is the Tea Party larger or smaller or the same size as Dr. Paul supporters.
TIA
Todd P
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:30pmRP is the epitome of the career politician – and an ineffective one at that. I must admit that a crazy old druggie in the WH would be better than O, but I personally would rather have a team of financial experts focused on the economy and job creation. Let’s have THAT team for the next 8 years, and see if we can’t save the dollar – and the REPUBLIC.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:57pmThe-Monk, Ron Paul started the Tea Party. It is now bigger than just Ron Paul supporters when it was co-opted by the establishment Republicans. Although the people of the Tea Party want the same things that Paul supporters want, the establishment helps put up candidates under the guise of the Tea philosophies, but many of them are just the same old politicians, in other words: If a candidate has to move their position to the left, right or center in order to get your vote, they are lying to you.
Report Post »It seems to me that many just listen to the establishment reporters at the MSM’s like CNN, Fox News and the like and refuse to do what Glenn has said many times, “Do not take the medias word for it, do not take my word for it. Do your own homework, research everything yourself.” – Glenn Beck
Frank Lutz was on Stossel the other day and said you cannot be well informed if you are getting your news from just one source. In order to get informed you have to seek the truth in various places on the other networks to internet sites, conservative and liberal, then research on your own on the internet. I hope people stop being lazy and start researching more, it is a lot of work and takes a lot of time.
The-Monk
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:08pmHi West Coast Patriot,
You have no idea how much research I’ve done. And if you have noticed I DO seek the opinions of you, Soybom315 and Justangry. : )
BWS is another story. : (
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:42pmThe-Monk, I was not directing that at you, sorry if I came off that way, I believe that you are one of the most honorable posters on here. You are civil and have good ideas and I do research things you post on here. I always enjoy reading your posts, even when you are giving me a piece of your mind.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:49pm@BARBER2
So it‘s good when Ryan doesn’t accomplish anything in Congress but bad when Ron Paul doesn’t?
Let’s look at his other accomplishments, like voting with the side of those that gave us the bailouts, Patriot Act and NDAA. Yea, those are GREAT accomplishments!
Report Post »loneindividual
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:40pm@Mutiny
As a former Mormon, I know exactly the deep philosophy they have. What is unsure, is if Romney is still Mormon. Even Evangelicals should be concerned if that is the case.
Hopefully Ron Paul gave considerable judgement based upon what he knew (which is supposedly more than I) and went with what his heart told him. I‘m sure it isn’t fluttering for Mitt.
Report Post »winin2012
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:59pmReally, questioning Romney‘s religion and not Obama’s? I wonder if you are really a “former Mormon”? However you feel about Mormons, would you feel better with 4 more years of Obama? Strip away the religion from both candidates and what do you have? Capitalist vs Socialist/Marxist. Pro-Life vs Pro-Death (late term and partial birth abortions) Freedom and Liberty vs Big Brother government in every aspect of you life. I cannot imagine RP want more Obama, can anybody?
Report Post »loneindividual
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:05pmwinny…where the hell did you get the idea that I wasn’t voting Romney?
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:39pmWhy would or should Paul endorse romney? If romney was a man he would have invited Paul and all his delegates to the convention.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:59pmIsn’t this a GOP convention ? Not a Romney convention ? How could he have the power to invite anyone ? Duh.
Report Post »Todd P
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:35pmRP is a RINO – he is much more aligned with O‘s liberal views that R’s conservative views. Maybe O should invite him to speak at the DEM convention? Or maybe he and Ross Perot should form a joint ticket (hehehehehe….. JOINT ticket, get it?)
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:45pm@baber2. So romney is a puppet. does he not have any convictions of his own? he just follows his handlers?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 9:03pm@todd
Name some policies Ron Paul and Obama share. I can name plenty of policies Obama and Romney share though. Do research, try again.
Report Post »SUNBURST
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:39pmA write-in vote for Ron Paul (or anyone else) is no different than a Obama moron vote. That moron vote that he is counting so heavily on.
Report Post »In fact, it’s probably worse than that.
You all must know that. Don’t you?
If there was EVER a time for an “I’m making a statement here” vote, this is NOT IT.
RP supporters, PLEASE PLEASE swallow your pride, hold your nose…do whatever. But please just use your head here.
If Obama wins a 2nd term, you RP supporters and ALL the rest of us Americans will have A WHOLE LOT MORE to worry about than losing out on the initiating of the great Ron Paul agenda.
PLEASE don’t equate YOUR vote to the Obama moron vote.
Daveed
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:26pmWhen would be the right time to vote 3rd party? That is why we are in this mess we are in because the RNC and DNC are both the evil twins. There are some in there that are worth voting for but I can count them on the 10 fingers and have some left over. It is do or die. I am tired of voting between two people I would never have voted for in the first place. I am not knocking Romney. He is not conservative if he authorized socialized medicine in America. Maybe that is what Obama was for, to garner in Romney? The LDS church has alot of people ready to fill the manpower for a one payer system. The lies are so deep piled on each other from WA. DC that nobody knows the truth, except God. If I vote against my conscience then that is a sin. Have Rev. Hagee preach on that. If I don’t vote that would be a sin, because I think I always should. However, the process for electing a US president has been warped and perverted. The pool of politicians in DC have been warped and corrupted to it’s core. They all need to be replaced. The obama campaign sounds like a bunch of 3rd graders. The whole thing has a hint of baloney sandwich, all over again like the last election. Would someone really stand up and tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help them God!
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Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:37pmRon Paul endorsing Mitt would look bad for both of them…but a wink to the other certainly means that Ron Paul is gonna give Romney a chance to further what they mostly…(more than half) of what they agree on.
I’m pretty sure Ron Paul would have dealt with Iran if Congress officially declared war. That’s the least he asks…that process ACTUALLY MEANS SOMETHING because our government STANDS FOR SOMETHING.
Too bad Romney will act unilaterally. Anything Congress does afterwards is simply based on polls and the influence of the Elites.
Report Post »Capt_Gregg
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:00pmRon Paul is putting his own ego ahead of the good of the country by not urging his followers to wholeheartedly support Romney, even if they think of him as simply the lesser of two evils. At least Paul and Romney agree on many points — Paul and Obama agree on nothing! If Paul’s followers truly want to see his ideas implemented, they’ll have to start with Romney. A write-in vote for Paul is a de facto vote for Obama, a man whose victory would be the death knell for ALL of Paul’s objectives. If you REALLY support Paul, hold your nose if you must, but vote for Romney.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:24pmNo, actually, a vote for Obama is a vote for Obama.
You do not own votes and get to assign them as you please. You own your vote, alone. Nobody else’s. If your party fails to offer a good choice, then your party is the failure, not those who refuse their bad product. Your logic is specious and full of holes I’m afraid.
As I said though, I am voting for *Ryan*. Had Romney not selected a Randian and/or libertarian, he would have earned one less vote, mine, I guarantee it.
Report Post »Gums
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:26pmGregg, you are wrong. They both think America is the problem and they both want to collapse our system. Obama and Ron Paul have very very much in common. Don’t let that anarchy/libertarianism fool you. They both want to take us down.
Report Post »loneindividual
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:08pmCapt_Gregg I’m voting Romney you dolt. He was my first choice to begin with BECAUSE of all that I knew about it.
ps: He doesn’t make funny handsigns like Paul does…although I suspect it’s cuz Paul is doing it to mock the establishment.
Report Post »John 1776
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:36pmSee the movie 2016. I would rather vote for Bozo the Clown than Obama.
Complete incompetence beats out determined destruction any day of the week.
I think Mitt will be a good “Stepping stone” away from the cliff we are about to slam into. Him and Ryan make a good team. NOT PERFECT by far, but a good team. Once the run-away cancer has been stopped, we can look for leaders that will take this country in the direction of the founders, but for now, we need to slam on the brakes on the Obama Runaway Train!
Report Post »Rob
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:36pmAnyone that doesn‘t vote for Romney at this point is on Obama’s side…PERIOD! Suck it up, vote right, and act like children another time.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:41pmThat’s a false choice. The GOP has to earn our votes, our votes do not “belong” to them in any way shape or form. If they cannot earn the votes of individuals because they keep offering up mediocrities and RINO’s, that’s *THEIR* problem. They are entitled to nothing.
That said, I wasn’t going to vote for Romney until the day he picked Paul Ryan. I will now officially vote for Ryan (and I guess by extension, Romney).
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:46pmNo!!! We are on the side of the founders and Liberty. I will not vote for someone who has no problem breaking/ ignoring rules. The convention is a joke why don’t we just save time and money and poll for the President?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:52pmGHOST: Divide the Dumb Conservatives ? Or are conservatives really that dumb ? If a freight train were bearing down on me, I don’t think I would quibble over which shoes to wear in my exit outfit. The Far Left, anti-capitalist Democrats are the freight train…
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:01pm@Barber
Your analogy makes no sense. You’re being born down on by a freight train, so your solution is to jump in front of another freight train bearing down on you? I don’t get it?
I said I was voting for Ryan, so rest easy. Had Romney picked somebody less Randian libertarian though, sorry, my vote my choice, neither you nor the GOP own that or can assign it on your own whim as you please.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:14pmGhost: Obama is the only fright train I see ( Freudian typing slip ! ), but I share your praise for the choice of Ryan , and I share your concern for ending the spending. Obama is toxic .
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:07pmRon Paul himself acts like a spoiled child why would his followers act any different.
Report Post »Don’t get your way “Go ahead and hold your breath” see if I care.
Individualism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 6:56pmsorry no nazis allowed in America.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:35pmHere come the Paulestinian kooks in 5..4..3..2..
Now, where’s my fetus burger??
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:40pmIsn’t that a gold plated fetus burger?
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:35pmRon Paul has never “Accomplished” anything as a lawmaker. He was a career agitator, nothing more.
Report Post »Gregb
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:33pmguess the ego grows with age
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:24pmYeah because endorsing a guy with the same major policies as Obama is no different than supporting Obama.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:35pmObama thanks you for being a useful idiot!
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:39pmRon Paul once again demonstrates he’s not going to sell out his convictions. The Ron Paul supporters need to take over the Republican Party just like how communists took over the Democratic Party. Ron Paul and Libertarians shouldn’t start a 3rd party. It won’t work. The best thing is to take over the Republican Party since it’s already there and established.
Report Post »Rob
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:39pmchild
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:44pmWhat did he say that was incorrect?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:46pmGood: Four more years of Obama’s “policies” and our “ small government” ( wink, wink ) guys will be in permeant lock down! Yeah, just can’t wait until Mr. Big Brother Obama’s flexes his “ more flexible ” muscles if he wins. Wonder which group of his useful tools will be the first to be thrown under the bus ? So surprised that Joe is still in the picture ( muzzled am sure ! ) Or the first group of his non-supporters to ” be detained ?”
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:47pmSILYY: How fun: Anarchy , Hitler, and Stalin all reborn and fighting it out in America ! ? Count me out…
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:48pmSIlLY, sadly for you and Dr Paul, it takes actual votes, not straw-polls, to “take over” the Republican party.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 4:57pm@good
Yes, I am the useful idiot for voting for the guy who is an exact opposite of Obama. You are the genius voting for the guy that has the same policies as Obama. You have seen the lists of common policies Obama and Romney share. You ignore them because they scare you. Once you realize the GOP has sold out and outside of what to spend the borrowed money on, if gays can get married, and abortion(Even this one Romney is weak on) you see these parties are the same.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 5:01pmMUTINY, The only time you’re ever right about anything is when youre attempting to be Sarcastic. It’s ironic and hilarious.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 7:00pmGary Johnson is close enough to Paul to be voted for.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 8:59pm@indy
As far as I know Gary Johnson is pro choice. I will never vote for a pro choice candidate.
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:11pmI am a constitutionalist and a Mormon with a conscience. I therefore cannot vote Romney this year, I don’t care what you threaten me with. I am done voting the lesser of two evils – so don’t count on my support this time around. Been there done that with Bubba Bush.
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