Crime

Wounded Military Vet’s Guns Confiscated by D.C. Police — and He Can’t Seem to Get Them Back

Lieutenant Augustine Kim has an understandable desire to preserve his own safety since he was wounded on duty in the Afghanistan war. Moreover, the South Carolina native has always been an avid collector of guns but, when he was deployed overseas, wisely made the decision to move his gun collection from his otherwise vacant home in Charleston (where they could be stolen or otherwise inadvertently accessed) to his parents’ home in New Jersey.

District of Columbia Refuses to Return Lawfully Owned Firearms to Wounded Veteran Augustine Kim

Augustine Kim

Upon returning home from his tour of duty, Kim wanted to take the highly valuable collection (worth several thousand dollars) back home from New Jersey to South Carolina, and set out back home in his car with the weapons secured in accordance with every relevant federal law. However, on his way, he stopped at Washington, DC‘s Walter Reed Memorial Hospital for a doctor’s appointment. If he’d known what would follow, he probably would have rescheduled at a hospital in a different state.

What followed? Emily Miller at the Washington Times explains.

After his appointment, Kim set out back home. Unfortunately, he got lost on the way, and was pulled over by Washington, DC police, who accused him of driving with a suspended drivers’ license (this wasn’t actually the case — a clerical error was responsible for the mix-up). However, because of the nature of the offense, the police officer involved called for backup, told Kim he’d have to go to the police station to sort it out, and asked permission to search Kim’s vehicle. Kim, apparently unaware of the absurdly restrictive firearms laws in Washington, agreed, assuming that his painstaking attempts to transport the guns correctly would get them passed over in short order.

He was wrong.

Among the guns Kim was carrying was a Colt Carbine AR15 rifle – a weapon the District of Columbia considers to be an “assault weapon” and has banned.

District of Columbia Refuses to Return Lawfully Owned Firearms to Wounded Veteran Augustine Kim

Colt Carbine AR15 Rifle

Kim tried to explain that he was only trying to transport the weapon home to his home state of South Carolina, where possession of it is legal. However, the police told him that because he had stopped at Walter Reed, he was guilty of owning the gun at a place other than his home, and was thus in violation of DC law. He was arrested on four felony counts — charges that could conceivably have resulted in as much as 20 years in prison — and was allegedly mistreated during his time in DC jail.

Kim must have figured out he was dealing with an irrational legal system, because he engaged the services of Richard Gardiner, the very attorney who had represented Dick Heller, a firearms owner whose case — District of Columbia v. Heller — made it all the way to the Supreme Court and was the first case in which the Court began to hint that it would acknowledge a fundamental right to bear firearms. Gardiner negotiated the charges against Kim down to one misdemeanor charge, which was summarily dismissed in May 2011 after Kim kept out of legal trouble in the district for 9 months. The entire legal mess essentially went away.

However, for Kim, the story hasn’t ended yet. Why? Because the District of Columbia still hasn’t returned his guns. Rather, the DC legal system has hemmed and hawed and delayed in every way it can to avoid returning the firearms to their rightful owner, who has had all the charges against him dismissed.

“This is legalized theft,” Gardiner told the Times. “The charges were dropped, and they don’t give you your property back?”

Whether this is simply an epic case of bureaucratic oversight or an instance of willful refusal on the part of the district to do its job, the fact of the matter is that it is inexcusable and probably illegal. Hopefully, the public outcry about this incident will make the district take the hint.

And hopefully that will happen before Kim’s upcoming deployment to Kosovo.

(H/T: Washington Times)

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  • Hades
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:08pm

    Wow, I am kinda shocked at the hate for LEOs here. As an ex-cop myself I know for a fact that most officers are not like the people described above. I have stopped many people in my time and one of the first things I ask is if there are any weapons in the vehicle. If there are, I take possession until the traffic stop is finished, then I hand them back their weapon with a smile (and unloaded of course) and tell them to drive safely. I have never had a problem with anyone carrying a weapon legally. The officers I worked with are really big into 2nd Amendment Rights and would never conduct themselves the way the officer(s) in this article did.

    But it is hard trying to keep your job and do that right thing. Sometimes you can’t. When I was working in a small town in Missouri, I was told not to ever stop anyone that was on the City Council, a family member of the City Council, or anyone belonging to the Elks Lodge (yes I’m serious). When the Chief told me this I was dumbfounded. He was scared of losing his job, and I certainly didn’t want to lose mine. But I told him that was unconstitutional and not fair to the other citizens. I was then told my services were no longer required.

    I guess my point of all of this is that, there are some bad cops. But there are certainly a lot more cops that will put themselves in harms way both legally and physically for the general public than there are those who will not. Do not say we are all the same. See us individually.

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    • argonautS166
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:27pm

      I once had a 1851 colt cap and ball pistol (replica) stolen from me and when it was recovered days later it was stolen again by the San Diego PD, Right out of the Property room. Someone likely thought it was a an original colt. That was the last I time ever trusted the police. and that was in 1978.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:52pm

      So what you are saying is that as a police officer, you would not enforce the law even though that is what a police officer is meant to do.

      How were these police officers wrong? They arrested him for AN ILLEGAL ACT. However, because you don’t like the law, you believe the officers were wrong for enforcing it.

      You say you never had any problems with people who were legally carrying guns. The problem is that under DC’s laws, this guys was not legally carrying this weapons. That is a big f—n difference.

      So, it boils down that you were a bad police officer because you would only enforce the laws you thought were just.

       
    • Jezcruzen
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:58pm

      HADES, the authority you were loaned, including carrying your weapon, came from the citizens. That did not result you in having power over the citizen. You had no more rights or authority when you worked as a cop than any citizen has. Too many cops have either forgotten that, or were never taught that fact in their academy.

      While it is legitimate and reasonable to want to know about weapons in a vehicle that you stopped, requiring the owner to retrieve that weapon and give it to you caused you and the occupants of the vehicle more risk. Once you know about the weapon and its location, it was more safe to leave it alone. You unloading the owner’s weapon, possibly a weapon you were not familiar with, compounded the danger to all involved.

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    • Furious American
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:59pm

      DTOM is an idiot. I bet you are the first to call the police if someone takes your parking spot.

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    • eagledown
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:00pm

      @HADES Thank you for your integrity. I hope your right about “The officers I worked with are really big into 2nd Amendment Rights”; and they uphold there constitutional oath’s and that they DISOBEY any unlawful and unconstitutional orders are imposed on the american people.

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    • Ken. P
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:35pm

      Why do you need to take their guns during a stop if they are not prohibited to own them & what gives you the right to unload them? Why do you feel the need? See thats a large part of where the distrust comes from. From a human rights point of view you as a LEO have no greater right to be carrying a gun than we do. You say “of course unloaded” as if someone besides a cop cant be trusted to be handed a loaded gun.

      Your other excuses dont cut it either. If your chief asks you to do something wrong or illegal you dont need to obey. But instead of standing proud you’ld rather preserve your job & abuse the public that is paying you. I’m not really picking on you, its an industry wide thing. Police bend the rules & look the other way to save their jobs every day. Yet they expect us to hold them up like they are doing us some super service by working as a LEO. Nobody said its easy, but if you are just going to follow orders regardless of the legal or moral implications then you really deserve no more praise than a sanitation worker because you are just putting in time to collect a check, a hero most LEO arent.
      These officers in DC violate everyones civil rights every single day as a matter of policy, as do the police in 40+ states. The only ones that dont are AK, VT, WY and maybe a couple more that no longer have any carry restrictions. If you need a permit to carry your rights are being violated & if LEO enforce those laws they are violating your civil rights.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:36pm

      Hades

      All I can say is that is that the city government & PD are like fish head & fish. The mores & attitudes of elected city politicians are unduly influencing the LEOs. If you have a rotten fish head it will spoil the rest of the fish.

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    • Bluedog78
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:41pm

      @HADES, get used to the cop hating, the editors at the blaze frequently post anti police stories. Red meat for the dogs. The only time you’ll see a sympathetic story about cops is if a cop is killed on duty, and even then alot of posters celebrate. I remember when the female park ranger was murdered in Washington state a few months ago and the blaze put the story up, alot of posters were pretty happy about it.

      As for this story, hope the guy gets his guns back. I wouldn‘t like being a cop in DC because of laws like that but I’m not going to fault them for enforcing the law where they work.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:44pm

      Godfather.1

      The city council could make walking down the sidewalk while chewing gum illegal. by law the LEOs are required to enforce it regardless if the city council are a bunch hypocritical morons.

      The council breaks laws left, right & center.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:47pm

      Godfather.1
      “You say you never had any problems with people who were legally carrying guns. The problem is that under DC’s laws, this guys was not legally carrying this weapons. That is a big f—n difference.”
      ***
      What is the right way? Triggerlock, clip in separate container in a locked cased intombed in concrete vault the dimensions of Jupiter?

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:50pm

      DTOM_JERICHO (CREATOR VINDICATOR), I of course do know what has happened to you but one can only assume that you have done something to get arrested a number of times. Actually I hope that I am wrong. Apparently you may have run afoul of one or more of those cops like the one in Cincinnati that The Blaze ran a couple of stories on in the recent past. I hope they have found a way to get rid of that guy now. I am a former cop too, and I have to say that I have met a number of those types myself, but that is not typical for all cops. As far as the states starting police departments it is essentially blessed by the 10th Amendment.
      As for a standing Army and Navy which were activated by the U.S. Constitution established during the Revolutionary War It seems to have slipped the minds of writers of our current Constitution since the Army and Navy were still standing. This has been debated my centuries now and I believe should have been corrected with an Amendment rather than to just let it stand. Frankly, it is a good thing that the military remained when the British again attacked us in 1810. Anyway, back to the debate. Some defer to the fact that the current Constitution did not state that it superseded the war time Constitution. While others say that once ratified it did supersede the considered former Constitution. Tis a mind fick ain’t it?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:50pm

      Washington D.C. seems bent on bending people over.

      http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2012/mar/13/miller-dcs-gun-law-deception/

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:57pm

      @Walkabout

      Did you read the article? It said that the gun he was carrying is illegal in DC.

      “Among the guns Kim was carrying was a Colt Carbine AR15 rifle – a weapon the District of Columbia considers to be an ‘assault weapon’ and has banned.”

      Guess what, if a law makes something illegal it is still the law. A court could later strikes it down or repeal the law but cops are still supposed to enforce it whether they agree with it or not. It is not a police officer’s job to decide which laws are constitutional and which laws should be enforced.

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    • iceblast
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:06pm

      The police officer tried to say, that just because he stopped his vehicle and got out, it was the same as living in that state, and having that guns then was illegal. So, if you never stopped his car he would have been fine.

      If a police officer asks you to allow them to search you vehicle, just say sorry, but no. I never trust the police, they are more trouble most the time then help. What they don’t know about you, won’t hurt you.

      Hope this guy gets his guns back. They probably can’t find them. That cop probably took them home, and doesn’t want to give them back.

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    • 1947
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:15pm

      DC isn’t in America but Commie Land

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    • 1947
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:24pm

      This action make some wonder why the men and women fight for the USA when DC doesn’t stand by the 2nd amendment . Hitler did the same thing in Germany and he started the FIRE……..

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    • Ray2447
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:27pm

      Maybe he should get U.S., Attorney General Holder to represent him. No, wait a minute, he only helps criminals have access to guns – not honest, honorable U.S. citizens. :-/

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    • turkey13
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:35pm

      I’m sorry this fine young man went thru this ordel. While he was deployed he missed all the news on D.C. Those guns can’t be returned to him – they were delved out to his Captian and his squad members. The officers in D.C. probabnly have some of the finest collections in the country. I would love to take my 4 grandsons to see the Capital and the Smithsonian but they won’t recognize my Carry permit and if they did they would find some excuse to steal my gun. My 3 sons would like to take their families there on vacation but can’t for same reasons. Good thing I saw it 35 years ago!

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    • cmonnow
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:47pm

      What are you talking about ? Bad cops ?? They enforced the law. The arresting cop doesn’t have much to do with it after the arrest is made – and the arrest was legally made.

      What about states rights ? Assault weapons bans have never been found to be unconstitutional. The officers found illegal weapons and they enforced the law.

      And it doesn’t matter that the man was a soldier. The same law applies whether the person is a completely legitimate person or a drug dealer.

      Likewise, constitutional protections of search and seizure apply. Had the soldier been more alert, he should have refused consent for a search. A recent case before the D.C. District Court a person who was obviously a drug dealer got a free pass even after the police found a loaded gun and used shells in the car because the dealer asserted his rights and did not give consent to search.

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    • cmonnow
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:50pm

      Ken P. – the right to bear arms is not a human right but a constitutional right. Not the same thing.

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    • Melvin Spittle
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 8:06pm

      Bad apples are making it bad for all of you then. It‘s up to EVERY officer to gain back the public’s trust rather than look the other way when one of your own takes a huge dump on an otherwise law abiding citizen. Do you watch the news? A week does not go by when we all see a report of police corruption or their complete disregard for 2nd amendment rights. Here in the People’s Socialist State of Kalifornia, if you are not a cop, you are one of the little people. The police are ignorant of the voluminous gun laws of this state. A common man cannot know the complexity of gun law in this state and it is left to lawyers to argue. In this state, they wait for you to step over the line. It is not a matter if you will step over, it is when. They can then not only seize you legally carried guns, but can then seize all guns in your home (they know exactly where all the guns are due to mandatory registration).

      My ex neighbor reported that I had military style grenades (I had grenade crates that I use for storage). The police department then proceeded to check my gun registration records and noticed I owned several guns (most inherited rifles and shotguns). I received a visit from the SWAT team just before 5:00 am and all guns seized during the search for the non-existent grenades. I had to pay a fee to get all of my weapons back (almost $1700). Our LEO leadership in this state hates gun owners and they take every opportunity to express that hate.

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    • marklabelle
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 8:21pm

      Thank you for your patriotic service. I agree with you. There are bad people everywhere. I thank God everyday that we outnumber them.

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    • Zuitsuit
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 8:36pm

      You are shocked by the fact that so many people hate cops,,what planet have you been living on?

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    • Truthbeliever2
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 8:40pm

      I think the misunderstanding here is that the cops did there job and did it lawfully; it’s that DC is a cesspit full of corrupt lawmakers who care nothing for the freedoms the Constitution is supposed to grant us.

      Constitutional Liberty??? What’s that?

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    • cous1933
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:21pm

      cmonnow,

      I disagree with your assessment that the right to bear arms is not a human right. The most basic natural right that God gave us is the right to our life. The right to defend and preserve our own lives is implicit in the natural right to life. The Founding Fathers understood that and considered the Second Amendment a natural and inalienable right.
      Jefferson wrote “No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another; and this is ALL (emphasis mine) from which the laws ought to refrain him”.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:42pm

      The Second Amendment – Right to Bear Arms.
      “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be INFRINGED.”
      This is MY RIGHT to OWN and to BEAR ARMS PERIOD!!!!

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    • addie
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:47pm

      Where I live, they dont bother to ask because more than half of the population in my county has a PCC and the ones who dont can still legally carry a fully loaded gun in an unlocked glove compartment. Asking someone here if there is a firearem in the vehicle is like asking if they have a motor in the vehicle.

      I am guessing half the people here would laugh at you if you asked for their gun for a traffic stop and a lawyer would file a suit against your department the next day for violation of your rights. Here’s a fact you seem to forget, most law abiding citizen legally carrying a gun will say yes they have a firearm in the vehicle and those are not the ones you need to fear! The ones who deny it and you walk away clueless are the ones who will use it on you!

      So asking for and taking the gun of law abiding citizens for a traffic stop is not only dangerous as it could go off reaching for it while someone is already nervous for a traffic stop, it is plain stupid!

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    • SgtB
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:52pm

      Whenever you start leaving your weapon unloaded in the back seat of my car while we are both standing in positions of equal power, then I’ll believe a single word you say. As of right now, police are just an extension of an unconstitutional and right depriving bureaucracy and they should all take a good long look at what they are and how they can either change or get a new and productive profession.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 10:59pm

      @Godfather, you sir, are a freaking moron! It is not illegal to travel through ANY STATE OR DISTRICT with ANY FIREARM! First off, it is a right that we have as human beings to provide our own safety and security. Personally, I’d have rather shot the pig and spent my life in prison than to have my rights violated by him. But I digress. Furthermore, it is a national LAW that you may transport a weapon through any state regardless of the “legality” of said firearm in the state through which you are passing. This law was passed through Congress and signed by the President some decades ago.

      When will ignorant morons like yourself wake up and stop eating the crap cakes that the media is feeding you?

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    • SgtB
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:02pm

      @ Cmonnow, if I could find you, I’d put a bullet between your eyes for even suggesting that I do not have a human right to self defense, to use my own intellect, and the access to free trade. You sir, are an enemy of myself, this nation, and of Liberty. You should die a traitors death and your body should be drug through the street for all to see and learn from.

      ….Was that a little too harsh? I really don’t give a damn because it is how I think.

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    • Aidan MacAnBhaird
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:29pm

      You are absolutely correct! Most officers are our best advocates in time of need. I also have a big question for the DCPD. While it is illegal to own some firearms in DC, this man is not a DC resident, & inner-state transportation laws between counties applies. Beyond that, he was provably transporting firearms between states, which requires federal firearms transportation laws to usurp every municipality between point A and point B. For those that do not understand this, imagine being pulled over in a town on your way to a place outside your state, and your insurance company does not do business in that state; this is common by the way. The individual cannot be convicted of having inappropriate or no insurance; they are neither a resident of that state or the municipality.

      Not only did this fine young man NOT break the law, DCPD has now committed a federal crime by not returning his property. They have impaired his 2nd amendment rights grievously in the delay tactics alone. DCPD neither followed the letter nor the color of law.

      Thank you for the time you devoted in protecting us citizenry. We can be a handful sometimes!

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    • flashback@liarinchief
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:52pm

      VET’s beware check your local and Federal laws before you claim you have PTSD.

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    • snufy
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:11am

      I am a former D.C. police officer. I only know what I’m reading here, but if this is the true story, it seems like the officers were fishing for something. I never had much time to mess with traffic, as I drove from one crime scene to another. When I did make a traffic stop, I never asked about weapons in the vehicle unless I had probable cause. I always looked around inside the vehicle, and asked the driver to put both hands on the steering wheel until I was sure it was reasonably safe. I never asked anyone to let me search their vehicle unless I had reasonable suspecion to believe they had something illegal. If the driver is placed under arrest, then a vehicle must be inventoried. On the other hand, there’s all kinds of officers out there…most are reasonable and professional. A few are not. People have a federal right to transport guns from one place of storage to another, and it seems that that officer was being a little too eager to make something out of it. I can’t believe the soldier appeared to be a threat to anyone, especially after he told them who he was. Common sense seemed to be short, here.

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    • flashback@liarinchief
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 12:50am

      Are you aware Veterans are on Homeland Securities watch list.

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    • christopher.duncan2388
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 3:10am

      All you guys who are attacking hades for taking temporary possession of someones guns obviously have no experience in any kind of law enforcement… Hello, turn on tru tv for 20 minutes on one of their world‘s dumbest episodes and you’ll see that performing a traffic stop is one of the most dangerous things a cop can do, I would rather take and return a gun from someone than have them shoot at me an my way back from my patrol vehicle

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    • loriann12
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:34am

      He was transporting his guns and took every precaution he could. It‘s illegal to own a certain gun if you’re a resident of DC. He’s not a resident of even that state (Maryland) but is a resident of South Carolina. He should fall under the laws of South Carolina unless he had it sitting on the seat beside him which could be intent to use.

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    • All American American
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:08am

      Why even ask? If you stopped me and asked that entirely personal question and I replied that I was not carrying any illegal contraband and was in compliance with all State and Federal laws, would you just let it go? Would you pester me further? Would you make some excuse to detain me (the ol’ standard “I smelled alcohol/marijuana/etc”)? Would you call for back-up? Call the dog out and have its handler touch the MJ in his pocket then touch my vehicle so the dog “hits” on the trunk?

      Why the “hate” for cops? I dunno, could it be that most of you are no longer peace officers and instead are Revenuers for the State? Collecting taxes in the way of speed traps and such? And when crime does strike, you’re too scared to act on it especially if the perp was a city councilman or family member or heaven forbid a member of a protected class (blacks, gays, etc)?

      Tell me, did YOU have the integrity to resign when your chickensh*t boss told you to ignore crimes committed by the City Council? If not, you have NO RIGHT to ask why most ordinary folks hate cops. You just answered your own question.

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    • DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:48am

      Never been arrested for anything… yet. Though that’s an ad hominem attack and an admission of defeat. I asked for the provision, not your opinion. I did not ask for an amendment that you think should have been added. Wow, what sound reasoning that you would think to talk of an amendment that SHOULD be added and not realize that you are saying cops are unconstitutional by that very fact that it has not been added. Rest easy little sheep. Theblaze has removed the comment and free speech. Truth has no agenda? Only if it doesn’t prove Beck wrong.

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    • wdittgasn
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:50am

      Apparently there must have been some nice weapons in the collection….. I am sure that they took the guns so that they could make off with them….. They don‘t return the guns because they are in the officer’s home!!!

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    • wdittgasn
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:55am

      GDfather you are a jac k a$$…..

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    • Missouri Mule
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:00am

      The sign by Chuck Norris’s mail box says it all:
      “We don’t call 911″
      Too many laws,
      Too many cops,
      Not enough Constitution,
      Not enough Citizens.

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    • txbigfoot
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:08am

      Hades, its not LEO hate its stupidity hate. They have NO right to keep those weapons with no charges pending. Unfortunately, stupidity is seen rampant in the police and their actions.

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    • Tombstone
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:20am

      HADES, from what I’ve seen, too many cops don’t appear to be trained in the technique of de-escalating a situation. Because of the perceived authority provided by the badge and gun they carry,many times will antagonize and bully a suspect and therefore create a much larger problem. The Kelly Thomas case in Fullertton! CA is a perfect example. I’m a 21+ years Army Veteran who was brought up to respect LEO’s. I have never been arrested or been in trouble with the law. In the military we were taught that when dealing with civilians in a combat zone you ALWAYS try to de escalate the situation and never provoke. I have to think that LEO’s are taught the same. Sit down and watch a couple of episodes of COPS. You’ll see example after example of cops pushing their weight around and antagonizing citizens.

      You may be individuals, but when I look at you, I don’t see Jim, Fred or Susan, I see a cop.

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    • Listen_then_think
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:28am

      @hades
      You are an oxy moron. You say you don‘t understand why people don’t trust, like, believe cops then you provide your own story of how you were asked to break the law and NOT serve the people who hired you?
      In my 46 years I have never once had a cop help me. I even went so far as to gather all the evidence required, pictures, testimony and invoces of a guy who stole more than 2000 dollars from me BECAUSE the cops didn’t give a crap. Even after I did all the work, handed them the evidence and told them where the guy was right at that minute WITH the stolen property, they still didn’t give a crap and did nothing. The only other encounters with cops were a few 1 mph over speed limit speeding tickets at 4 am and the cop went ballistic on me because I had the “nerve” to ask him why he pulled me over. EVERY cop I have ever known was an ego maniac on a power trip, or a short man trying to make up for it. So the only thing you did with your story is prove how dumb cops really are.

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    • thejackal
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:41am

      Apparently you don’t live in large metropolitan area. Cops there do not respect peoples rights. You sir are not the norm. I live in a rural state and will never travel to a large liberal city ever again. I also will never surrender my right to bear arms to a public sector hack. I could care less about what kind of ‘badge’ they wear on their chest. The Right to Bear Arms shall not be infriged for ANY REASON!

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    • OldVet
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:03am

      RJJINGADSEN
      Check your facts, The constitution originally called for a standing Navy and a Militia which was the equivalent to a reserve. There was no call for a “standing ” army. Other than that I agree with your post.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:41am

      Hades, I agree with your overall point that most cops are decent and good people. The problem as I see it is that they are forced by a system that isn‘t decent and good to do things that aren’t in any way to the benefit of the citizen or to society. The unbelievable mountain of ridiculous laws they are tasked with enforcing make it nearly impossible for them to do their jobs from the governments perspective without unduly burdening citizens. It’s a shame really. I remember when cops really were the “good guys”. I don‘t see it that way anymore and haven’t for a long, long time. To do a good job from the government point of view the individual cop must overburden the citizen or they will languish at the lowest ranks or be let go. Peace.

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    • AZRACISTBIGOT
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:03am

      Thank God I live in Arizona

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    • jerrygar
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:08pm

      Yeah, right. You never “worked” with New Jersey cops. Those brain dead idiots are cloned Nazis.

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    • jerrygar
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:11pm

      You write, ” sometimes it‘s hard to do what’s right & keep your job”. Isn’t that what every civilian cop in Nazi occupied Europe said as they shoved the Jews & others into the box cars ? You brain dead dopey cop !

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    • flashback@liarinchief
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 2:16pm

      Quota and revenue goals need to be abolished much like a public defender who gets the bragging rights for convictions and not saves.

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    • armyofnibiru
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 3:52pm

      when did Law Enforce Officers stop swearing an oath to the constitution? which is the supreme law of the land. its to the constitution not the mayor or city hall, govenor or the chief of police.the legilators swear the same oath and violate it almost every day.I thank the anunoky that the people of this country are civil law abideing citizens, well most are .when I was 15 a cop told me he was the law,I told him he was law enforcement.and if you were the law we’re a lawless land. he snareld at me and walked away.

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    • ENIGMA28724
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 4:39pm

      I am a reserve deputy in NC, and most if not all the officers I work with are of the same mindset as you [me included] If I don’t have something to arrest the subject on, the weapons are returned, unless the suspect has a sketchy record or is committing a crime. Then it becomes a chargeable offense. Common sense seems uncommonly absent in some jurisdictions [like NYC or DC]. I’m glad for your integrity you no longer work in the little town you referenced. And you don’t have to be worried about being called to federal court to explain unequal application of the law.

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    • Pinellas3
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:53pm

      Where in the Second Amendment does it say that a police officer is entitled to strip you of your right to keep and bear arms during a traffic stop for his comfort? We are not here for your comfort. Would you have had the audacity to try to take someone’s firearms in their home while talking to them at their front door? I don’t owe you anything in the way of “courtesy” on this matter, because it’s not courteous to try to disarm a citizens, it’s unconstitutional. If you are not willing to do your job amongst citizens who have the right to keep and bear arms, then you should find another occupation. I am sick of your attitude.

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    • dasbunker
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:36pm

      Hades:
      This article is not critical of the officers on the street just trying to do their jobs.
      This is about the bureaucrats that are steeling our freedom.
      I agree there are Cops on the street that thinks their opinion and sense of total power trumps the laws there are sworn to uphold.
      However it is my experience that this is not the norm among my local LEO.
      (I have not had the courage to open carry in Minneapolis though.)Their Police seem to be totally indoctrinated in PC.
      Maybe if D.C would allow lawfully licensed citizens to defend themselves by carrying a weapon, there would be a few less murders in our nation’s capitol.
      I have had a Minnesota carry permit (Thank you Tim Pawlenty) for 6 years and have carried canceled almost every day.
      I have been open carrying in my home state of for the last couple of months.
      I am surprised at the lack of response from people I interact with and the businesses that I visit.
      An armed society is a polite society.
      Allah FUBAR

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    • D-Fence
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 1:08pm

      Most police are just trying to do a tough job which has the potential highest price one can pay. Yes there are some bad apples but that’s not what happened here. It’s the system and the people running the system, i.e. politicians. Progressives have had it in for gun owners for a loong time, and their friggin laws are the means to burden the taxpayers into submission.

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    • philsoapbox
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 12:30pm

      Hello again, as I have told you before I locked the last lock on my trailer and now I could go on my way. Just one more qustion ser ( do you have any guns with you ) I said Yes I think I do have a gun with me packed away under the seat, then the words came out ( You are under arest ) I had been hunting in December 6 months ago in AZ, and did not think about having a gun with me until they had asked about it, got arested and put in jail, my rig put into inpond, talk to police about the 2nd amendment rights, tell it to the court, about 6 or 8 hours later, I got to see the court first hand, my court appointed guy told me to keep quiet and he will get me out of this for $1000.00 dollars. I did at frist and then I could see where all this is going. My I say something your honor, I told the story everything and got releast to myself if I could send them a statment from my home town showing that I do have a home in Arizona. From a policeman just before we got on the way to jail, he told me the next time you are asked the ???? ( do you have a gun ) ( just say no ) . I had no idea about the trouble
      I could get into by just telling the truth. (The truth shall set you free ) . Have a wonderful day and year !!! Remenber to work hard, the country full of dead bet;s is counting on you.

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  • Docrow
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:55pm

    I’m thinking those guns are long gone and nobody wants to admit it.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:08pm

      They went Fast and Furiously toward Mexico

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    • IDONTTHINKSO
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 5:16pm

      yes sir! They have done been divid up among the police force and he will be ignored forever!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:59pm

      NAIVETY… is thinking… your Government… which Represents you and which you Serve… is Pure of Heart and Honorable!

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    • mils
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 1:53pm

      headlines say..wounded vet…what does being wounded have to do with this?…what does being a vet have to do with this.

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    • fcbs46
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:47pm

      I had to scroll down all the way to your post to find an honest person, that didn’t use the reply to stop people from replying to their own post Cowards all of them. Godfarther1 is one of the biggest.

      Guns belong to people not to the state. It seems some government officials have gotten it wrong. Many things taken in arrests go missing each year but you never hear about the police stealing from citizens because that would be bad for the cities and states.

      Where is the accounting of these articules??

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  • coldarkstare
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:54pm

    another sad wake up call. on another note i would like to thank him for his service.

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  • Leadthemtothelight
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:42pm

    I found it ironic how many freedoms are lost under the cover of protection. This is yet a symptom of big government at it’s finest. We must take back the freedoms given to the idiots in WA. I am sick to death of hearing stories like this.

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    • cmonnow
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:52pm

      yeah – it‘s really stupid that we can’t all walk around with assault weapons. I for one would feel so much safer if everybody in DC had assault rifles, flame throwers, bazookas, etc.

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    • stumpy68
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 11:05pm

      If everyone was armed to the teeth at least it
      would be a politer place to be.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:18am

      @ CMONOW, It must be hard to live with such fear in your life. Obviously, you are a jack@55 and all you do all day is piss people off. I am a Marine and I have spent years of my life surrounded by teenage men carrying “assault weapons”, or as I refer to them properly, semi-automatic rifles and carbines. Never once in that time (even with some intense infighting between conflicting personalities) did I EVER see a weapon used in anger. The only crime that increases when guns are readily available is possibly suicide and that is even questionable because ever statistic I can find only compares the suicide by gun rates before and after, not all suicide rates to include overdose, hanging, blood letting, etc. The reality is that nearly every man and woman is smart enough to handle the responsibility of handling a weapon properly if they are given the least bit of training and supervision.

      I really hope that someone strangles you with shoelaces so that one day we can all have velcro shoes and everyone will be finally safe from shoelace violence.

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:39pm

    …
    With Obama in office, we are losing all our rights and freedoms, at a breakneck speed.
    Wish November was here, now.
    By the time November gets here, America will no longer be recognizable.

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  • gpk
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:38pm

    Probably in the hands of the black panthers by now.

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  • jammer19
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:32pm

    This is a man who was responsible for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of military equipment and soldiers lives, and the police take his guns. What in the world is happening to the country I loved and went to fight for? All I can do is shake my head.

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    • US-First
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:17pm

      What does that have to do with anything. When you are state side and off the base you are a citizen of the Unites States and a civilian subject to the same laws as every other citizen. I am certainly not going to speak poorly of the young man serving in our military but neither am I going to speak poorly of our civilian law enforcement officers w/o much more information than is given here.

      LEOs have to enforce all the laws under their jurisdiction or they should enforce none of them. There should be no picking a choosing. If we don’t like the laws then we vote for legislation and legislators that will change them.

      Let the system work as intended and it will work.

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    • Ken. P
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:38pm

      No, LE do not have to enforce illegal laws, just as a soldier does not have to obey illegal orders. Wrong laws need repealing, not blind enforcement.

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    • wdittgasn
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:02am

      US_ FIRST….. They STOLE this man’s property because they are THIEVES!…. Like one of the posts said, these guns were divided up and he will never see them again…..STOLEN by the police…..

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  • falschimjaeger
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:32pm

    Disarm the citizenry and trample upon our rights. This is becoming more and more blatant by the socialists who are in DC. When the people are disarmed and freedom is lost, no liberal better whine about it. You (LIBERALS) are the ones who brought it upon us all.

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  • Bill Rowland
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:29pm

    A friend who lived in Hyattsville, MD within a block of the DC border was an avid hunter. He left home one morning enroute to Ft Meade. Because of a Boy Scout jamboree in a city park he was forced to cross the district border and drive about one block inside the district. He had a Marlin 22 rifle in the gun rack. When he was stopped he was arrestred and the rifle confiscated as a machine gun because it held more than 9 rounds.
    Thats how stupid the gun laws in DC are but they have so many shootings that even the cops used to stay out of certain parts o town after dark.
    Oh, he never got his gun back and was out money for lawyer fees and bail money. He did eventually get his suburban back but it cost him a big hunk of change.
    This is what Sweet Old Barack wants to do to all of us!!!

    OMG 2012

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  • Individualism
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:27pm

    anyone should be allowed to own any weapon they want incase those pig try to round them up to go to the fema camps.

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  • Mrtoohappy
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:26pm

    I guess he voted for the other guy. Isn’t that what Obama does? If you don‘t vote for him he’ll take everything you have.

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  • Mutiny
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:26pm

    You know there is still one of the three candidates that has never wanted to ban assault weapons. His name isnt Obama or Romney.

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  • vnachi77
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:24pm

    He’ll never get them back would be my guess, as they have probably already been destroyed or stolen.

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  • FromSeaToSea
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:21pm

    One more Constitituional Freedom fighter once He gets the His guns back.

    Day by Day the free loving peaceful people of the US are growing into a force.

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    • spirited
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:31pm

      When talking about our armed forces (troops) Obama did recently say, “…they’re …on MY behalf”.

      >Respect the soldier Mr. President; give him back his property.

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    • milo75
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:53pm

      They will wake up the real sleeping giant soon. I myself will not conform to this sick society! I remember what America use to stand for and this ain’t it. GOD willing people start wakeing up.

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  • formerdemdummy
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:20pm

    If anybody thinks that there are cops out there that won’t try to confiscate your guns when told to do so, you are dilusional. Believe me I have relatives who are cops and they talk a good one but when it comes down to their jobs or your guns. YOU LOSE!!!!
    Very sad for our great country.

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    • Cameraman
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:26pm

      This Folks is typical Police State Thuggery! Badge Monkeys working for their Paymasters Period! They do not SERVE you, they SERVE the Beast! Time to hit the Reset Button..3% We are in your rear View Mirror!!

      Semper Fi!

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  • FromSeaToSea
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:17pm

    All that……..when the constitution gives him the right to carry.

    1. SAY NOTHING – don’t talk to cops anymore people. First rule lawyers teach you. NEVER. Furnish ID if You have to and keep quiet.
    2. NEVER, NEVER allow a search of Your house or car. NEVER.
    3. NEVER GIVE UP PRIVATE PROPERTY.
    4. Assume the cops are enemies and not friends out to charge you with something. There are over 10,000 federal laws alone. No one knows all of them or their definitions. It’s crazy.

    When I was growing up we respected the cops and chatted with them. It’s an Obama – Bush police state world now.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:35pm

      Being from NJ, I can agree with NEVER let them search your car… NEVER!

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    • RLTW
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:56pm

      Great advice, interestingly it’s the same advice I received from all my old/young soldiers who are now Cop’s.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:25am

      It’s right there in the Miranda Rights. “Anything you say, can and will be used against you…” An officer cannot speak well of you in court. It is not their job to do so and it will be dismissed as hearsay if the judge or prosecuting attorney has anything to say about the matter. Furthermore, jurors are no longer free to interpret the meaning of a law, the intent of a person, or the criminality of his actions. They are picked to be mindless errand boys who follow the judge’s orders and are never allowed to exercise their rights. By all rights, the jury has more power than the judge in determining guilt or innocence and this was a power meant to keep the judiciary in check and give the Citizen real due process. With the death of real jury trials in America, so goes my faith in the entire system.

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  • CatB
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:16pm

    Isn’t it sad .. that the place where the Constitution resides along with the Bill of Rights and the Second Ammendment … you cannot have the liberties that it provides for. This is outragous .. I know that D.C. thinks they are a law unto themselves ..they are not … I wish some GREAT lawyer (Mark Levin and his friends at Landmark Legal?) would help this patriot SUE them for return of his property .. and LIBERTY!

    OMG 2012 … LIBERTY!

    We have Holder GUN RUNNING and this young man is the one in trouble? Bu ll sh *t

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  • circleDwagons
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:15pm

    What’s the big deal. He broke the law. He was lucky to get off without jail time. I’m sure that Romney will let him have his guns back. i’ve added to DC, to NY , CA and IL to places i wont go.

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    • Knight Templar
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:43pm

      Is an illegal law (Constitutionally) still a law?

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    • babylonvi
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 8:09pm

      The courts have found the D.C gun laws unconstitutional yet they still enforce them. The officers are liable, In addition, he WAS in transit and just leaving the vehicle does not change that. You might need gas, food, a restroom break, etc. You MAY even need to stay somewhere over night. The cargo in the vehicle was still packed and transported legally. The fact that police THROUGHOUT the country continue to arrest people, and even get convictions on laws that have been found illegal or sometimes m don’t even exist, just drives me CRAZY with embarrassment for the law enforcement profession. One particular illegal activity is arresting someone who is taping police activity in a public place. THIS IS NOT ILLEGAL! The courts have spoken on this, yet, they continue to arrest people for this.

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    • ICEDRAGONNITE
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 8:23pm

      Knight Not according to the Constitution. This comes under the heading of nullification. When a bad law is passed the Jury can override it on Constitutional grounds. The legal system really hates this but the jury has the right. Don’t let them bully you into doing it a certain way. If its unconstitutional then that’s what it is.

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    • JohnHW
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 11:00am

      To ICEDRAGONNITE. For some reason, as a former paralegal who knows about jury nullification, I always seem to be kicked off of juries. I was once asked (after all the other juror prospects were out of the courtroom) what I knew about jury nullification and I replied that this was the way our founders used to keep the three branches from imposing unconstitutional laws upon the citizens of this country. First time the prosecution kicked me off a jury.

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  • AIDANMAN
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:15pm

    now this soldier knows the meaning of ” all enimies , foreign and domestic”

    welcome home to the UNITED STATES.. what’s left of it

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  • The_Almighty_Creestof
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:14pm

    In other words, they have “vanished” from the evidence locker and are in some corrupt policemans house….or maybe Eric Holder stopped by on his way to Mexico for the weekend.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:10pm

    What guns…..those guns were sold. Do you have proof we have them……who actually took them from you. When you have a name of the individual that has them, we will ask for them back. Until then, sorry we can’t help you. By the way, exactly what right were you quoting that gives you the right to own these weapons of mass destruction? The 2nd only gives you the right to bear arms, such as muskets and single shot hunting rifles. Not such a deadly weapon as an ASSAULT Weapon.]

    Now if you were transporting these to Mexico, we can talk….Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean.

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:27pm

      tHE 2CD AMENDMENT CLEARLY STATES THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BARE ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
      tHE 10AMENDMENT CLEARLY STATE ALL POWERS NO GIVING TO CONGRESS OR DENIED CONSTITUTIONALLY SHALL INVERT BACK TO THE STATES.
      The 2cd amendment denies the states and D.C. the power to infringe on citizens rights to keep and bare arms. This soldier needs to go to the supreme court with this one.

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    • theprofessor1031
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:55pm

      @johnjamison Thank you! I was beginning to think I was the only one around here that actually understands the Constitution. Even the NRA and gun owners don’t get it anymore. The argument has been changed to, “you need to know the laws of wherever you go regarding guns”. No WE DON’T! The 2nd amendment GUARANTEES our right to carry in any state or city in the U.S. Any laws passed by a state or local municipality are in direct violation of the 2nd and 10th amendments. I hate that the NRA believes that any time a pro gun law is passed in a state, it is considered a win. WRONG! How is it a win, when laws are passed to overturn laws that are unconstitutional in the first place? Good Lord it just gives me a headache realizing that people who claim to be for the Constitution, don’t even get it.

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    • mikerupp1986
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:56pm

      What John said :)

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:40pm

      If you couldn’t tell, I was being sarcastic about the second amendment. That is the “Leftist” arguement. They want to argue also, it gives us the right to arms, but not to ammo. Stupid leftist, logic ain’t for kids.

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  • Common Sense 24
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:10pm

    There was an instance like this in Longview, WA recently except the owner had broken no laws.
    http://tdn.com/news/local/owner-of-gun-involved-in-accidental-shooting-struggling-to-get/article_cb05bdd4-7fa8-11e1-9d32-001a4bcf887a.html

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  • burnteye86
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:08pm

    another story for Facebook

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:08pm

    Teh guns are in Mexico.He will never see them.

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  • Mil-Dot
    Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:06pm

    LEOs used to be good people that used common sense. Now, they are goons, jack-booted thugs turned loose on the public to do the bidding of criminal politicians.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 4:18pm

      Never trust LEOS or PISCES. Their stars are never aligned.

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    • mikerupp1986
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 7:03pm

      It’s funny how someone will use a zodiac sign. That stuff is a myth, and I’ll have to say that what is happening in our country just shows that people are turning away from God more and more everyday. I’ll say this, nowhere in scripture does God say man is supposed to kill one another, commit adultery or hate one another. It’s not in there, though I do believe the 2nd ammendment to the fullest. Big Gov’t will have everyones weapons in due time. Obama said it himself and so I guess if anyone is gonna stand it should be sooner than the next election because there are alot of people all for him including my neighbors. Very scary, but all of this is prophecied as far as Globalization and a one world government. It’s coming fast so open your eyes, if they take the 2nd ammendment right from us they will have all sorts of ways to control the people because no one will be allowed to have any guns. Heck I‘m a one time felon for drinking and driving 4 times and so I can’t own a gun. Be thankful for that right because it can be gone in a second. P.S. I never killed anyone but thank God my eyes are open now and I am over 2yrs sober going on 3. God bless!!

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