10 Commandments Removal From VA Schools Causes Student Unrest
- Posted on March 1, 2011 at 1:56pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Some students in Giles County, VA* are upset after the local school board voted twice in as many months to remove framed copies of the 10 Commandments from its schools. A group of teens from one local high school says the move is causing dissension, with some students even coming close to physical blows over the issue:
WVVA reports:
The Giles County School Board voted Tuesday to removed framed copies of the Ten Commandments from its schools — for the second time in as many months. Now some students are speaking out against the decision.
Some students have posted the Ten Commandments on their lockers. One group from Narrows and Giles have ordered t-shirts to express their opinions on the issue.
The commandments were first removed in December, 2010 after a complaint.
At one point, the board reversed its initial removal decision. But that changed after the Freedom From Religion Foundation threatened to sue the Giles County School Board on behalf of residents who wanted the Commandments removed after they were re-posted.
That group issued the following statement to WVVA:
Along with the ACLU of Virginia, we are monitoring the situation to ensure that the school board does not attempt to skirt the law and put the Ten Commandments back into Giles County Schools. Any such attempts to violate the Constitution and Supreme Court precedent would constitute a losing legal battle for the school board.
The Blaze contacted the American Center for Law and Justice, which many times represents defendants in religious cases such as this, but did not immediately receive a response. The local superintendent refused media requests from WVVA.
*We’ve updated the article to reflect that Giles County is located just across the border in Virgina, not West Virgina.
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old guy in SC
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:31pmThe problem is not only the ACLU, but the blood-sucking lawyers who intimidate the school districts, etc. with lawsuits that would exhaust the coffers of most of them. This school could go to court to protect their right, but it would cost the students because of the expense. With this and the unions picking our schools’ pockets, I wonder what will happen next. BAN THE PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS AND KILL ALL THE LAWYERS.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:01pmSue the lawyers for creating a hostile enviiroment for the schools.
Report Post »Also on a side note is it any wonder why Satan was a lawyer in the movie the Devil’s Advocate
lynnissmart
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:31pmHow did we let our country get so out of control????
Report Post »SPEAKTRUTH
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:41pmBecause people dont understand it is freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. They twist it to mean what they want it to mean and the Christians have let the few that say they are offended have their way. The supreme atheist Madeline Murray O’Hair started the fight taking religion out of the schools and they found her and her family in the desert mutilated in barrels murdered by some of their own kind. They didn’t have a nice ending and neither will those that go against our Lord our God YAHVEH and Jesus Christ Yashua, God says in the back of the book that we win! Then let all the hating deniers whine and cry to their Maker and they will receive their justice
Report Post »lainpa
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:31pmnoticed that it said “a complaint” ? Does that mean 1 person complained? Oh for pete’s sake! Tell this person he better not go to DC and see the Laos Deo on top of the Washington Momnument or any of the other references to God and the 10 Commandments throughout all government buildings! Down with ACLU! UP with ACLJ!
Report Post »RaiderNationKissArmy
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:30pmDonaldh is right, Giles County is in Virginia. WVVA is based in Bluefield, VA and serves both sides of the state line (get it WV VA). I know I’m right because Giles used to kick the unholy crap out of my high school in football.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:25pmDavid Barton said on Glenn’s program this passed Friday that the reason why is that there are multiple versions of the 10 Commandments in different religions like Judaism and Christianity (same Commandments, just numbered differently). If they were identical, there wouldn’t be a problem, from what I gathered, but that sounds real, real suspect to me.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:16pmNo, the main problem is the first commandment – Thou shalt have no other gods before me. When the state puts up a sign that says this it is establishment of religion. It tells people who follow other religions not based on ancient Hebrew scriptures that they are wrong to do so. This is why states always back down in these cases. They know they will lose because they are wrong.
Report Post »Nigel2
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:24pmhttp://bearwitness.info/GeorgeSoros.aspx
Christianity is under assault. I am sure the same school district will have copies of the Koran in the school library.
Report Post »ConstitutionalPatriot
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:17pmCan some one tell me the ‘legal’ reason WV schools cannot have the Ten Commandments posted? What does this have to do with the Constitution and the Supreme Court anyway?
Report Post »luvweather
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 1:13pmThe reason that religion has to stay out of schools is the same reason that the State has to stay out of your religion. The Separation of Church and State works both ways. Everyone’s quick to jump on the schools for removing the 10 Commandments, but how would you feel if the “liberal” leaning biology teacher had the right to go into your church and put a disclaimer sticker in your Bible saying, “Creationism is just one Theory as to how life began. Some believe that life evolved from single-cellular organisms.” You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:16pmI’ve posted this a couple of times, still seems relevant to the created chaos that is only just beginning around the world.
“The dictator state has one great advantage over reason: along with the individual it swallows up his religious forces.
Report Post »The State takes the place of God; that is why, seen from this angle, the socialist dictatorships are religions and State slavery is a form of worship.
But the religious function cannot be dislocated and falsified in this way without giving rise to secret doubts, which are immediately repressed so as to avoid conflict with the prevailing trend towards mass-mindedness.
The result, as always in such cases, is overcompensation in the form of fanaticism, which in its turn is used as a weapon for stamping out the least flicker of opposition.
Free opinion is stifled and moral decision ruthlessly suppressed, on the plea that the end justifies the means, even the vilest.
The policy of the State is exalted to a creed, the leader or party boss becomes a demigod beyond good and evil, and his votaries are honored as heroes, martyrs, apostles, missionaries.
There is only one truth and beside it no other. It is sacrosanct and above criticism. Anyone who thinks differently is a heretic, who, as we know from history, is threatened with all manner of unpleasant things.
Only the party boss, who holds the political power in his hands, can interpret the State doctrine authentically, and he does so just as suits him”.
C.G. Jung from the late 50’s
ChiefGeorge
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:48pmRight on!
I ask where is their founding documents, where is their book of faith? You cannot find one. Their beliefs are scattered all over the world in various texts, articles, columns, laws, policies. Their high priests are anyone who agrees with them and puts forward their agenda. The lay people are deceived but still put forth their agenda. They seek more laws and regulations to corral the people because they have taken away any sense of accountability and responsibility that they are no unruly mobs ripe for their agenda of mass control through dependency to the mighty State. They seek only mass equality without regard to differences in people and even gender. They wish to wipe clean these differences, wipe clean the idea of Love between and Man and a Women who then become bonded in marriage, they call it obsolete. Wipe clean the idea of individualism…..the very thing they have used to get us here today but now want to make us a collective force under their control and guidance.
Believe me, I’m old enough to see the transformation over the past 30 plus years. It didn’t start with our current Dear Leader, it started after the 60′s revolution and my generation was the first experiment. I have since seen the light and it is awesome. This is not light, this is utter darkness and we are headed there faster than a rocket car!
Report Post »Goohuman
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:15pmThe ACLU and any law that stifles peoples’ freedom to speak, worship or publicly gather must be abolished.
Simple as that. You go girls.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:50pmPersonally I think the 10 Commandments ought to be publicly displayed in schools.
They are simple moral precepts, most of which have analogues in non-Biblical religious traditions.
That said, I’d like to remind you that without the ACLU there would probably be a whole lot less freedom of speech than we currently enjoy!
Report Post »rightwingheroes
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:14pmI really wish Government would leave us alone.
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:55pmI really wish people would quit forcing their religion down my throat.
338lapua
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:03pm@foxhole The ten commandments are the words of God, they have absolutely NOTHING to do with or in common with religion. Therefore there is no harm to you that hasn’t already been done.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:28pmFoxholeAtheist, don’t look at it as religion if it bothers you that much. Look at it as 10 simple rules by which you can live your life. Can you imagine how the world would be if everyone did follow these 10 simple rules? It would be far better than any utopia a government could create. Personal responsibility for ones actions is much better than forced government compliance.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:32pm338lapua, very good point. Since FoxholeAtheist is an Atheist, and doesn’t believe in God, he can believe they came from anywhere he chooses. Either way, following these rules would make the world a better place.
Report Post »Catharsis
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:32pmYou’re forcing your nonsense superstitions upon us. The 10 commandments DO IN FACT represent CHRISTIANITY. YOUR faith, not mine, and it doesn’t belong in a public institution.
Report Post »Navyveteran
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:51pmFoxholeAtheist
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:55pm
I really wish people would quit forcing their religion down my throat.
————————————————————————————————————————————————— I agree and that also includes atheists!
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:54pm@fox
Report Post »how is posting the basis for the laws in our county forcing anything down YOUR throat? no one is asking the teachers to take all the students to the posting, shove their face in it, require them to memorize it…NOR requiring them to believe it Like it or not, the laws in this land were based on those 10 little rules for life, though you might have noticed that in fairness to those who don’t believe, we DON’T have a law saying you must not have a god before THE GOD,
I for one am sick to death of you atheists shoving YOUR beliefs down my (and my children’s) throat by not only denying the comandments yourself, but also forcing others to deny them, lets not put them out in the public, someone might READ them… God fobid!
I am also sick of the religion of evolution being shoved down my throat, and my childrens, pulbic school or not, it is EVERYWHERE… thank God more and more scientists are coming out saying it is impossible…
and while we are at it… I am sick of those who have such a problem with Christianity not working on Sunday’s (or at least most not working without extra pay), and by the way, do you get paid holidays where you work? Do you take that pay for Christmas (call it “holiday” all you want, but that does NOT change the FACT that it began as CHRISTMAS) or do you put your money where you mouth is and go to work on Christmas day and not take extra pay for doing it? Wait, do you even have a job??? or is your job to monior conservative sites and stir up stuff with your foolish posts? Wonder if you get “holiday” pay for that???
Our country was founded on these principles, if you don’t like it GO AWAY, perhaps you can start your own little athiest county and base your laws on whatever you want. Good luck with that, perhaps some land will be available in the Middle East soon! I am sure those muslium countries all around will be very good neighbors.
TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:25pmCatharsis, you’re misinformed, the 10 Commandments is not part of Christianity. Christianity follows the teaching of Christ Jesus. The 10 commandments existed long before Jesus walked the Earth.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 7:04pm@catharsis, matters not. You have no right to force me not to practice my faith, just as the state has no right to create and enforce an official religion. Also, the Jews were given the ten commandments as well, so they are already multiple faith recognized…. before we even get into the muslims and their recognition of Christ, therefore God, but their labelling him as another prophet. Sad that you would try to strip me of my rights so your selfishness can be rewarded.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:13pmThis story demonstrates how important the Supreme Court really is. The decisions handed down by the SCOTUS have more of an impact on our liberties and freedoms far more than the Legislative and Executive branches of our government. The Progressives have understood this for some time now……Conservatives had best learn that lesson too……and act on it. No more Progressive judges on the Supreme Court unless we truly want a “Transformational” America……..
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:41pmArticle III – The Judicial Branch Note
Section 1 – Judicial powers
The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
Section 2 – Trial by Jury, Original Jurisdiction, Jury Trials
(The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party; to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.) (This section in parentheses is modified by the 11th Amendment.)
In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.
The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.
Section 3 – Treason Note
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
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Amendment 11 – Judicial Limits. Ratified 2/7/1795. Note History
The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.
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I read nothing about the supreme court CREATING laws. I also do not read anywhere in the constitution where the 10 commandments shall not be displayed in a school.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:03pmI think Executive powers should also be limited from use/abuse by the President.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 8:47pm@TROLLTRAINER
That is why the Progressives refer to the Constitution as a “living document”…..to them, it is permeable and usable for “today’s” interpretation……in other words, the Constitution is only useful for supporting the Progressive agenda……any Conservative interpretation has cesed to have any meaning in today’s society. The SCOTUS has allowed this perversion to grow since the early 20th century and we are now reaping the whirlwind.
@ANNONYMOUS
Report Post »I agree. No more “Executive Orders”!! Especially those concerning domestic and cultural issues. They only serve to skirt the Democratic process and in essence allow the Chief Executive to write laws in the White House and bypass Congress……not a very “Representative Republic”, if you ask me……
trolltrainer
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 12:14pmHillbillysham,
You are right that the SCOTUS is doing far more damage than the other branches. They have way overstepped their constitutional bounds. We need to be aware of what they are doing and put them back into their proper place. They way to do that is to be careful who gets elected to the other branches. Congress needs the balls to stand up to the court and the president needs to appoint more conservative justices.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:13pmWHAT FOOLS THESE MORTALS BE…. as if by removing the 10 Commandments you will somehow free created mankind from obligation to do what is right. KEEP mocking GOD and see where it gets you.
COMMIES infiltrated our schools in the 60′s for the sole purpose of “rotting AMERICA like an APPLE rots…from the inside” these freak-Commie teachers have persisted in their atheism and they have shoved it at our kids. There will be a frightening place in hell for those who deny GOD. WHY would ANYONE with any brains deny GOD? Are you sitting in a chair? Did it ‘just come together’ or did someone conceive the idea of it? Design it? Build it? Is there anything on earth that just ‘came together’ ? NO. There is a GOD, HE loves us (don’t know why) but thankful HE does and these little brats who try to think they are somehow in charge are ruining our kids.
Report Post »teachermitch32
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:48pmHey Payyt,
Good post, and I agree. The idea of ridding the rotten apples stems from early, long voyages on ships. The apple barrels were daily inspected and the rotting ones removed completely because they would immediately infect the good apples and begin rotting them. Seems that the rotten ones need to be immediately removed and discarded or destroyed from these great United states.
Report Post »My2
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:12pmPerhaps the kids should make some t-shirts that have the 10 commandments printed on them and then just wear those to school. If some enterprising club did it as a fund raiser they could probably put up posters with a depiction of what the shirts would look like as well.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:22pmThey are having tee shirts printed that say “The Ten Commandments — not the problem– the solution.”
Report Post »MiddieMama
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:39pmAs a school board member in a small Indiana town – I would LOVE to purchase a t-shirt to show my support! Would you be ever so kind to let me know who to contact? Blessings!
Report Post »DonaldH
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:12pmI think that county is in Virginia
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:21pmRead the head line….WV = West Virginia
mamiesgirl
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:02pmYou are right – Giles County is in the great Commonwealth of Virginia. I wouldn’t be surprised if our AG Ken Cuccinelli argues FOR the school. The local paper (you can see it at http://www.roanoke.com) is full of letters to the editor concerning this case and many are arguing for the removal. So sad, the land of George Washington, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson. Patrick Henry, etc. is being infested with liberal progressives.
Report Post »mamiesgirl
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:04pmBanjarmon, it is in VA.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:00pm@mamiesgirl
Report Post »Is that where all the commuters from DC live? Sad indeed.
mamiesgirl
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 7:18pmAnonymous T. This county is in far SW VA and the commuters to DC live in Northern VA. This is what is so upsetting to those of us in SW VA. This has always been the most conservative area of the state.
Report Post »youguysready_letsroll
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 7:30pmNo DC commuters from Giles. It is near Virginia Tech in Southwest Virginia on the border with WV. it’s a beautiful area actually.
Report Post »randy
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:12pmGod bless those students who are choosing to keep the 10 commandments alive and well on their lockers and t shirts.
Report Post »ablisterin
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:03pmFinally, some children that still think for themselves. God bless them.
Report Post »veruca salt
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:36amBorn into a majority Christian country, raised in a Christian home, taken to a Christian church from a young age, their societal norms revolving around the Christian church, and all the pressure from parents and friend to conform to these norms. Yes, you’re correct, these kids have been raised from day one to think critically about the validity of posting the Ten Commandments in governmental buildings.
Report Post »Lily1943
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:10pmOnce again the progressives shove their agenda in our faces.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:00pmLet me be clear that I support the display of the 10 Commandments in schools and other public places!
Still, can‘t you understand the progressives’ point of view, which is that display of the Commandments is an attempt to shove a Jodaeo-Christian agenda in their faces?
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:21pmWhich country based on ‘no religion’ is successful?
Report Post »ablisterin
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:29pmChristianity is not forced on anyone. It’s each individuals freedom of choice to accept Christ. Liberals on the other hand find it their duty to force you into supporting thier beliefs (sort of like muslims). It’s the collective salvation crap that obama spews at every opportunity he gets. He knows how to save us all from ourselves.
Report Post »godfather
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:42pm@VanGrungy
All the Scandinavian countries are very non-religious and they are all strong economically. In fact, some of the most innovative technologies come from these countries.
Report Post »ENTITLEMENTSBLOW
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:07pmOne complaint and they take it down? We really need to stop catering to lone complainers, this is getting ridiculous!
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:53pmSo when the Muslims take over and you’re the only one left, I guess they don‘t have to listen to you since you’d be a lone complainer.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:36pmits in the constitution. put it anywhere you want but not on public property.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:54pm“its in the constitution. put it anywhere you want but not on public property.”
Show me, I must have missed it!
Report Post »ablisterin
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:59pmI can’t find anything related to this in the Constitution. Someone’s been blowing hot air up your butt & you enjoy it too much.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:32pm@ablisterin
Then you can not read or have no understanding of anything and survive by being spoonfed information from Beck and other extremists.
trolltrainer
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:46pmEncinom, please show me where it says this in the constitution! It is not in there. It says the federal government shall NOT meddle in established religion.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Even someone as blind as you can surely understand the context this is written in? Congress cannot forbid the posting of the ten commandments in a school. Not without amending this first. The Supreme Court has no power to make law, only to interpret law and give an OPINION on it.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:51pm“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…” The 14th Amendment has made the State governments subject to the Bill of Rights also or is your arguement that while the Federal government is limited by the first amendment, the states have no prohibition to limit first amendment rights?
The Public School is an agency of the State, its employees are state employees. The action of the school in showing favoritism to a religion is a violation of the establishment clause. Its simple, the difficult part is to get christian fanatics such as yourself to see the truth.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 7:47pmWho is showing favoritism?
Here is the 14th amendment:
Amendment 14 – Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
You have lost me on your argument. But let’s forget the 14th for a second and just go back to the first. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Okay…So how is the government making a law regarding the establishment of any religion or prohibiting the exercise of any religion? It is a non-starter, you cannot just add things into the Constitution at your convenience. Your premise is other religions are excluded. Says who? If any other religion has anything applicable then they should be allowed to hang that too! Say a history class studying the Greek Pantheon. I would not object to cutouts of the Greek gods on the walls.
What do you have against the ten commandments? Why do you hate God? ;-)
Report Post »scguitar
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:05pmI say let them sue and take it to the Supreme Court. We still have a first amendment
Report Post »IAMMADDOG
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:05pmThe only people that want the ten commandments removed are people who don’t want to be reminded that the things they do are WRONG.
Report Post »godfather
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:21pmKilling, stealing, and committing adultery are all inherently wrong. You shouldn’t need a text to tell you that. Furthermore, many of the commandments don’t really have much to do with leading a moral life. Rather, they are just directions from a jealous God.
This has nothing to do with people not wanting to be reminded that what they are doing is wrong, because the vast majority of people who don’t want public displays of religion are not doing anything wrong. Instead, many people just don’t want a public institution endorsing religion. If the ten commandments were replaced with a Qur’an, a statute of Buddha, a Book of Mormon, the scientology cross, or any other non-christian religious symbol, I’m guessing you would not be too happy about it.
Report Post »godfather
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:26pmcorrection – statue of Buddha
Report Post »lynda1276
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:04pmi always wonder just which one of the ten people have a problem with…
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:15pmThuo shalt… (They don’t like to be told what to do!!!!)
Report Post »Paul G
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:21pmIf you’re a liberal?….All of them
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:47pm“Thou shall not covet thy neighbors goods” for starters.
This is a socialist statement.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:43pm“Thou shalt have everything thy neighbor has.”
THAT is a socialist statement.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:55pmNo, troll. That is theft.
If individuals are forbidden to covet or want material items then you have no basis for capitalism.
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:20pmMr Butcher…
Umm.. When you don‘t covet other people’s ‘stuff’, you go out and work for and earn your own ‘stuff’
that’s Capitalism… unequal wealth distribution based on individual wants and needs and personal desire…
Socialism is equal sharing of misery.. there is nothing to covet because everyone is dirt poor…
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:26pmMrButcher,
You are a smart guy and i like you. But once again your exegesis is woefully lacking. The Bible does not tell us that we should not “want” things. Only that we should not envy others for what they have. We should live within our means and realize that things of this world are fleeting. It is the same message Jesus tried to give to the rich man in Matthew 19. The point was not that we should give everything away to get to heaven, it was that placing money above God will keep you from Him. It is the love of money…or your neighbor’s house, wife, manservant, maidservant, ox, ass, or his wife’s ass…(sorry, couldn’t resist…). You do not want to do a David on Uriah for Bathsheba. But there is nothing wrong with wanting a good ox or ass. Just so you get them in an honest way.
There is nothing socialist in the Bible, but there is quite a lot of sacrifice for others. There is a difference.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:46pmThanks, Troll.
But I beg to differ on this point.
The prohibition of coveting makes it sinful to want anything material. It’s a “thought crime.” Here’s the full text: “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour’s”.
The last part “nor anything that is thy neighbor’s” is pretty clear in abolishing one of the main motivations of capitalism. If you see someone with an ipad or a cellphone or a car that you find appealling and then the idea comes to you that you’d like to posses one as well, you’ve just committed a sin. It doesn’t say you should go out and work hard and earn enough $ so you can buy one. It says it is wrong to even have an idea based on want. How is this not similiar to socialism?
I’ll go further. Here’s the famous Karl Marx quote on communism:
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”
You find the same idea in the bible. Here’s the books of Matthew and Acts:
“Matthew 25:15 And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to each according to his ability. And he went abroad at once.
Acts 2:45 And they sold their possessions and goods and distributed them to all, ACCORDING AS ANYONE HAD NEED.
Acts 4:32-35 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, and laid them down at the apostles’ feet: AND DISTRIBUTION WAS MADE UNTO EVERY MAN ACCORDING AS HE HAD NEED.”
Clearly, the case for biblically endorced socialism is there.
Lastly, I’d hate to not point this out, I’d like to highlight the blatant sexist nature of this so-called commandment; the tenth commandment considers wives to be possessions no different from an ox or an ass.
Do we really want our school-age daughters being told that in the eyes of their future husbands they have no more worth than an ass or an ox?
Cheers
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 7:34pmSome good points.
First, the problem we are having with Exodus 20 is the word covet. The inference is you should not want your neighbor’s goods. Not that you shouldn’t want identical goods. You are not to take your neighbor’s ipad. If you want one, then buy your own. I do not know where you get the idea that you are not to want anything material, the very idea is ludicrous. Did Jesus not use Judas as His treasurer to handle the money? You do not see any Israelites living in poverty, heck, look how opulent Solomon’s Temple was! The idea is you are not to scheme to take your neighbor’s stuff. I suppose you can argue the point, it is what it is, but your interpretation is in the minority. I suppose that does not necessarily make it wrong though…I have precedence for what I am saying. The Ten Commandments fall into two categories: How to treat God and how to treat man. Jesus summed it up perfectly: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul, strength, and love your neighbor as yourself. It has nothing to do with asceticism, after all, if no one “wanted” anything how would anyone survive?
Matthew 25 are lessons on being a good steward, of using what God gave you wisely. It is ironic that you would choose one of the most capitalistic passages in the Bible to try and prove socialism! God gave the most talents to the man who would invest the wisest. God was displeased at the man who simply hid the money and did not let it work to make more money. But notice that none of the three men gave their talents away!
Acts 4…You picked well there, and this passage is the single problem for those who are arguing that the Bible does not promote socialism. In truth, this is communism. Jerusalem was poor, as evidenced by Paul’s collection for them throughout his epistles. You also missed Ananias and Sapphira who were both struck dead by God for not giving up the total of the money they received for the sale of their property! That would seem to clinch it! But…They were struck dead for lying, not for keeping the money. One thing to remember, this was voluntary. We are never told whether it was conditional for joining the church, I would like to think it was not but I could be wrong. At any rate, they did not have to join the church. Also, nowhere else are we told of this tradition. From Paul’s epistles we see that there were conflicts between wealthy and poor Christians in other churches. We also see many poor churches in the Gentile world giving generously to Jerusalem. But nowhere else do we see a communal “pot” like we do in Acts 4.
But that is irrelevant because nowhere are we TOLD to do this! You will find many things being done in the Bible that we are not told to imitate. The fact is as Christians we are supposed to give generously. We are even told that the more we give the more we are blessed. I can verify this. It is a pleasure to give to good causes, history bears out that Christians have always led the world at this. But this is not socialism, it is charity. If I cannot make money then how can I give? The more I make the more I give. The more comfortable I am the more I can give away. I have no love for money, it is simply a tool that enables me to do God’s work. That is the idea. I live well, and I do not apologize for that. I worked hard and I have been blessed. If/when God calls me to move, to go into a 3rd world country or whatever…Then I will go. Gladly. That is the idea.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 7:51pmHeh, rereading what I wrote I screwed up big time! I said you do not see any Israelites living in poverty then went on to say the church in Jerusalem was poor! Lol!
Forgive me. We are talking about two different time periods. In pre-exile Israel they were the dominant power for much of the time. In Christ’s day Jerusalem belonged to Rome and the Jews were heavily taxed. Sorry about that discrepancy.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 10:13pmUsually it is the one that speaks of Adultery.
Report Post »graywolf11
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 8:17amMr. Butcher is the local athiest, nice guy though (from what i’ve read). Covet=wanting things that other people have in a jealous way. On other words “Thou shalt not be jealous of what your neighbor has”. So, you can take it either way–> “I’m gonna get my own stuff“ or ”I will be happy with the blessings I have and not worry about what others have”. I think God meant the later.
Report Post »Beware of Romans
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:03pmGod help us!
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:02pmNo to 10 Commandments
Report Post »Yes to sharia law
ACLU .
Catharsis
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:44pmThink about it. The first commandment states that you shall have no god before me. Which god is this? It is the Christian god; again, it does not belong in a multi-cultural/diverse public institution.
Report Post »Soldiers_Son
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:55pm@CATHARSIS
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:44pm
“Think about it. The first commandment states that you shall have no god before me. Which god is this? It is the Christian god; again, it does not belong in a multi-cultural/diverse public institution.”
God is a religion neutral term. It can be interpreted in any number of ways. God can be Allah, Yehwah, Jehova, Mother Earth, your car or whatever you claim as your personal god. There is nothing in the ten commandments that make is specifically Christian, and in fact were put to stone before the term “Christian” was even coined.
So, how does something that is essentially religion neutral not belong in a “multi-cultural/diverse public institution”? Especially when the following of said commandments would be huge benefit to anyone willing to actually do them.
Report Post »Catharsis
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:20pmOh please, the 10 commandments in that form only appear in the confines of Christianity/Judaism. Every person who sees it, knows it’s origin. Also, professing the existence of a deity is not secular in and of it itself.
Report Post »Soldiers_Son
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:43pmYou do know that this country, including the drafting of the Constitution and subsequent laws, were founded upon the idea that there is a God? Please go back and read the words of the founding fathers. While not all were devout worshipers, they were all believers in God to some extent or another. This country was founded, with one of it’s main purposes, for the freedom of religion. And so to have a religious display in a public place is in perfect harmony for all government institutions, as long as they do not infringe on your rights or force you into any religion (which the display of the ten commandments does neither).
You would also be wise to know that the ten commandments appear in the Qu’ran because Moses was and is a highly revered prophet in Islam. So, the displaying of the ten commandments is not a Judeo-Christian only teaching, and the reference to God can cover more than just what you try and limit it to.
And not everything has to be secular.
Report Post »poohbear
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 10:02pm@ RobertCA
Yes and American needs to wake up quick! If the 10 Commandments are being taken out of our schools and the Muslim dietary laws are being implemented in our schools and taking our kids to mosques on field trips is happening.. it’s clear to me that there is a bias. Gone are the days of seperation of church and state. I believe liberals want a culture war. I say bring it on..Don’t sit around America and wonder why this is happening, stand up and do something about this!
If we have to do what those folks in Wisconsin are doing to keep our God, culture, and freedoms..so be it!
Report Post »emertz8413
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:02pmYes, by all means, watch them like hawks, heaven knows we don’t want them to “skirt” the law!!! You’d think the ACLU would have better things to do. Once again we have to apease the complainers!! JUST DON”T LOOK AT IT !!!!!!
Report Post »TennesseeConservative
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 7:20pmThe only commandments I know the progressives have is but 2.
1. Thou shall not tell the truth about anything.
2. Refer to commandment #1.
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:01pmThe ACLU is an enemy of America. May God bless America.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:43pmThe ACLU needs to get A clu(e)
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:23pmI thought it stood for the American Communist Lovers Union?
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:44pmWere you aware that the ACLU originated for the purpose of defending civil liberties against the excesses carried out by the government under the arch-demon Woodrow Wilson?
Report Post »JoeBtfsplk
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:03pmGone surfing – do you surf? I do.
Where do you surf? At the moment I’m in WA state – brrrr!
Report Post »BCNU
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:34pmPressure your comgress-critter to STOP federal (your/our taxes) funding to ACLU !!!!
Report Post »jCo68
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:01pmThe ACLU does not receive any government funding. It’s funding comes from membership dues, contributions, and occasionally fees from legal cases.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:53pmBCNU:
The ACLU does not litigate civil rights cases, it litigates civil liberties cases–there is a difference.
It is non-profit organization, and has not made millions at the expense of taxpayers or anybody else.
The provision of the US code which you cite allows compensation for attorneys pleading civil-rights (again,not civil liberties) cases, but does not require it.
Report Post »BCNU
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:57pmThe ACLU is also 501-3(c) tax exempt…….
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:22pmBCNU:
Report Post »Yes, the ACLU is tax exempt–as are churches.
grandmaof5
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 1:58pmNow there is a reason to demonstrate and strike!
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:15pmYou got that right granmaof 5…bless you.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:15pmABSOLUTELY! And, the students seem to be getting their point across. Something about “Freedom of speech!”
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:19pmi just love how these JACK HOLES say that it violates the Constitution AND Supreme Court precedent…
ALL they care about is the Supreme Court precedent because up until the mid 1950′s the Supreme Court upheld the teaching of and from the Bible in schools, pray in public schools and at public events, the posting of the Ten Commandments, and manditory Pledge recitation.
So…if they care so much about Supreme Court precedent…why don’t they look back more than 50 years at some of the other decisions….
Hmmm….stupid bunch of JACK WAGONS!!
Report Post »TERMLIMITSNOW
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:29pmWell…..being a West Virginian I can tell the only thing that ****** us off more than having our rights denied is having folks from “outside” telling us how to run things. You haven’t seen the end of this story, we have lawyers here too, and most are christians.
Report Post »Ken
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:35pmIf everyone in the world lived by the Ten Commandments, we wouldn’t have most of problems the world faces! But all of us will be held accountable for everything we have done, good or bad. And that include these God haters and rejecters!
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:37pmI think it would be neat o get abou =t 20 thousand bumper stickers and stick them all over lockers, doors, cars and anywhere else. Screw those who want freedom from religion. I say drive them crazy…
Report Post »Creestof
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:39pmI will never cease to be amazed at how non-believers have such a problem with believers. It is not like we believe in Fords and you in Nissans…we believe in something and you don’t believe in anything.
It’d be like me saying I believe in the Easter Bunny and them getting all bent out of shape in their desire for me to change my views…and stop wearing my bunny ears to work. Ok, that last part they may have a point to make.
Maybe they are worried we‘ll go about those ol’ crusades again…funny, it seems to be those guys drying their bath towels on their heads that have all the hate and desires to kill.
Report Post »Templar Knight
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:44pmThese are the true good God fearing people and the ones that should be respected yet they will be the ones bashed by the left wing media and Obama’s cronies. It is shameful to have the 10 Commandments removed from anywhere as it is the laws of the land that we should all hold true to our hearts.
It is a crime how the muslim students can practice prayer and have the freedom of their religion in our schools. Yet when it comes to anything of the Christian faith it can no longer be found from within. What happened to “In God We Trust” and putting our faith in God? What happened to saying the pledge of allegiance in school every morning? What has this country become?
God bless the students standing up for the 10 Commandments and pray they will succeed in having them restored in the WV schools. Also shame on the WV school board for removing them.
Report Post »JoeBtfsplk
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:48pmGrandma;
Report Post »I agree. 10 Commandments should be in all public space.
missionarydad
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:50pmSince they took prayer out of schools our country has went to hell in a hand basket. Christianity is under attack while the same forces are sucking up to Islam. We as Christians and those who love this country and believe in our constitution need to unite and not only draw a line in the sand but start taking back territory.
Report Post »Star Spangled
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:51pmAgreed !!
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:56pmI got my dialing finger ready….who do I call? Oh yeah, will there be a janitor available to mop up the puddle by the phone :)
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:57pm28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:02pmGrandmaof5,
Agreed, and it is nice to see students taking on what is wrong with the nation to fight for what is right and good. I wish them the best speed and non violent success in their efforts.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:03pmI was wondering what they would do if the students had it printed on T-shirts .. I see someone is on it … now we will see what the school does .. seems that comes down to free speech .. it has when it was anti-American they were allowed .. but I would bet the school will not be so tolerant with the 10 Commandments as others have with the “haters”.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:03pmGood for the students. I fail to see how having the 10 Commandments violates the Constitution, as they mentioned at the end of the video. Now, someone should start an organization and sue those schools who serve falafel and let muslims do THEIR thing. It’s not an equal protection of freedom from religion. Example, the boy that got to carry the religious dagger.
Report Post »bassist237
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:04pmTrue, and I suppose it will be okay now to allow religious knives, and copies of the Koran too.
Report Post »Hoosier Daddy
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:10pmThis is what comes from having a “living” constitution. The freedom of religion morphs into freedom from religion and any mention of God in the public square becomes a criminal act. Oh, and you can murder your babies if you want to.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:11pm@TERMLIMITSNOW
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 2:29pm
Well…..being a West Virginian I can tell the only thing that ****** us off more than having our rights denied is having folks from “outside” telling us how to run things. You haven’t seen the end of this story, we have lawyers here too, and most are christians.
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Good for you, the students of WV, and the angry parents!!!
Keep us posted!
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:13pm“And God spoke all these words, saying: ‘I am the LORD your God…
ONE: ‘You shall have no other gods before Me.’
TWO: ‘You shall not make for yourself a carved image–any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.’
THREE: ‘You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.’
FOUR: ‘Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.’
FIVE: ‘Honor your father and your mother.’
SIX: ‘You shall not murder.’
SEVEN: ‘You shall not commit adultery.’
EIGHT: ‘You shall not steal.’
NINE: ‘You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.’
TEN: ‘You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.’
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:15pmIf God had said, “Thou shalt not create unions for government employees,” the Ten Commandments would have been gone in schools L—–O—–N—–G ago!
Report Post »SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:31pmWe have allowed our education system and media to be taken over and controlled by government loving leftists.Basically all information getting out to the public be it in the classroom or news outlets it totally in their hands.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:37pmCatb:
T-shirts?
How about something more imaginative?
I suggest tattoos, piercings intricately arranged, or hair braided into cornrows or retro hip-hop fades, 1993-style, spelling out the Commandments–in Hebrew!
Report Post »ConsiderThis
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:38pmNo wonder the Progressives want the Commandments out of sight.
All those “Thou Shalt Not,s” go against the grain of everything they promote.
Could there be a little bit of guilt going on there?
Report Post »Caveman
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:54pm1. No one says you can’t pray in school. It just can not be lead by a teacher or a school employee. If students wanted to, they could pray till the cows come home all day long just as long as it is not organized by the school. 2. The government should not be in the business of promoting anyone’s religion. Yes this means your religion, and since people are required by law to go to a PUBLIC school they should not be put into an environment where they could feel excluded by the majority of any religion. Finally, I believe that the only rule anyone needs to follow in life is the Golden rule.
Report Post »sedition
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 3:55pmThe 10 Commandments should be posted on every lamp post in America!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:05pmDoes anyone have the count on how many times the Ten Commandments are on buildings in Washington D.C. … ? I know it is a lot.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:28pmI wonder if these brainwashed kids can understand the difference between a private citizens freedom of religon and the constitutional prohibition against the establishment of a religon. From the comments here on the Blaze, it appears as if that difference is lost on the adults.
The Beckerheads here are protesting a small fringe group that is marching for Shira law and then in the same breath support the ten commandments being displayed in schools by the state officials, I wonder if Beckerheads can see the hypocrisy of their opinions.
nothingbuthetruth
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:31pmNow there has to be at least one lawyer who is a resident there that would defend the Ten commandments for free.
Report Post »GrandpaBob
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:40pmMaybe a “Code of Conduct” based on the Ten Commandments would be acceptable to all. It could then be legally posted everywhere.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:55pmEncinom
Heartless here. Usually I charge $75.00 for the lesson. But for you , Free
Sharia Law, Don’t follow it to the letter you get you head chopped off(Infidel) , or stoned to death ( Buried to the waist for a male , to the neck if you are female ), other punishments probably apply
10 Commandments Don’t follow them to the letter, you will be punished by (choose your religion’s supreme being or check other box )
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:05pm@CREESTOF and it would be mighty hypocritical of you to say that, while many Christians, even here on this site, would love to wipe Islam off the map. Just because you are less open about your true hatred for Muslims doesn‘t mean it doesn’t exist.
@DUSTYLUV Ahhh yes, that’ll solve all the problems. Advocate being vandals as to terrorize those that don’t believe in what you believe in. I’m not saying the non-believers are innocent but neither are the believers. I could care less what you believe in, as long as we agree that we both have freedoms to live our lives in the way we see fit. You can keep your 10 commandments, most of them mean nothing to me. Stealing and killing, that’s all that really applies in a legal sense. As capitalist, we all covet one thing or another. You may not covet directly for your neighbors wife, but perhaps at some point you coveted to have a wife as great as what you’re friends have found, etc. And as capitalist, if we didn’t covet the success of our neighbors, you’d all turn into liberal democrats.
@ENCINOM Although I tend to agree with most of the people here, being an independent libertarian (note: both lower case), I’ve been pointing out the hypocrisy of The Blaze audience for quite some time now. They’ll never get it, even though they blame the left of doing the same thing.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:07pm“10 Commandments Don’t follow them to the letter, you will be punished by (choose your religion’s supreme being or check other box )”
Actually, this is one of the biggest misconceptions about Christianity. I can assure you with 100% certainty that every single one of us have broken at least one commandment at least once. Most of us trample on them daily. :-) The law has nothing to do with salvation.
Report Post »GetUpOnTheWheel
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:14pmIf Socialists had a 10 Commandments:
“And the Socialist state spoke all these words, saying: ‘I am the LORD your God…
ONE: ‘You shall have no Gods,except me.’
TWO: ‘You shall not make for yourself a carved image, unless it is a sanctioned art work approved by the committe of the whole’
THREE: ‘You shall not criticize the state. If you don’t like Socialism, then just SHUT UP’
FOUR: ‘You shall work on the days you are told to work for the good of the collective.’
FIVE: ‘Honor the state and the whole. Your mother and father’s worth and honor is relative to their contribution to the state.
SIX: ‘You shall not kill, unless it is in the interest of the whole, in which case it is perfectly acceptable.”
SEVEN: ‘You shall or shall not commit adultery. We aren’t really sure what that is yet but are checking into and will get back to you.
EIGHT: ‘You shall take your neighbors possessions and we shall take yours.’
NINE: ‘You shall bear witness as it serves the interest of the state.’
TEN: ‘You shall covet what your neighbor has, then report it to the committee and they will then take it and redistribute it.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:16pm@ TROLLTRAINER…………You are exactly right the purpose of the law was to make people conscious of the fact that they are law breakers. It is impossible to keep the law. It is meant to emphasize the need for a savior, the only one who did keep the law, Jesus.
@ AMERICANSOLDIER……………I know you are set in your belief (or lack of beliefs) about God. But I cannot let you wrongly accuse Christians the way that you did. We care deeply for the Muslim people and what their final destiny will be if they do not repent and receive the forgiveness of Christ. With regard to their faith, yes I do believe it to be wrong and damning, but I would not by coercion or aggression seek to persuade anyone of the Muslim faith to become a Christian.
Report Post »Soldiers_Son
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:38pm@ENCINOM
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:28pm
“I wonder if these brainwashed kids can understand the difference between a private citizens freedom of religon and the constitutional prohibition against the establishment of a religon. From the comments here on the Blaze, it appears as if that difference is lost on the adults.
The Beckerheads here are protesting a small fringe group that is marching for Shira law and then in the same breath support the ten commandments being displayed in schools by the state officials, I wonder if Beckerheads can see the hypocrisy of their opinions.”
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Let me see if I can clear this up for you in a very simple and easy to understand way.
The Constitution does two things for religion:
1) It prevents the government from establishing a religion and requiring people to follow it.
2) It protects people’s right to worship how they want.
What it does not do is protect people from religion, as you somehow think it does.
Now, for the part you do not understand by your statements about Sharia. Sharia is a religion that is the same as the government and forces people to obey it where it is established (notice above where I said that the Constitution prohibits and protects against this?). Sharia law in it’s very essence goes against our Constitution and would actually be illegal if fully implemented while our constitution and federal laws remain as is and unchanged.
On the contrary, the ten commandments are a set of laws that are fully compatible with the Constitution. The ten commandments do not establish a religion or do they force you to do anything. They can be taken as suggestions or ways to improve your life as a whole or to be ignored at your personal discretion. The fact that they are on display does not take away your freedom to live them or to deny them as you wish (although some of them are laws such as Thou Shall Not Kill). The government does not force them on you or do they necessarily live them.
As a result, displaying the ten commandments does not take away a private citizens personal freedom of religion nor does it constitute the establishment of a government religion. But Sharia Law would do both. This is why it is not hypocricy to denounce one and support the other. They are very different. Very different.
And for your reference, here is what the constitution says:
Amendment 1
Report Post »Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
encinom
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:47pmDo you understand that there is no difference in the argument madde by the radical, fringe imam regarding Sharia law being imposed on the US and Christians seeking to impose christian dogma and beliefs in public schools?
Both arguments are offensive to the First Amendment and the Establishment Clause. This has nothing to do with private beliefs and everything to do with the State endorsment of one religon or the other. The US is legally a secular nation. We do not have a state religon.
Also the 10 Commandments are displayed in courthouse throughout the nation along with other historical sources of American law, from ancient Rome, Greece, Babalyon, etc.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 5:51pm@Soldiers_Son
A display of the Ten Commandments in a religous context, by a public institution, say a school, is an offense to the First Amendment. Such an act is a demonstration of the government favoring one religion over another a clear violation of the establishment clause.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:00pmEven the kids are starting to get it. Must piss-off O’carter .all that money to indoctrinate (wasted)
Report Post »Soldiers_Son
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:22pm@ENCINOM
If that is the case, then what religion is the government favoring by displaying the ten commandments?
Please correct me if I am wrong in this, but didn’t Moses received the ten commandments from God long before the term “Christian” was ever coined and wasn’t he considered Jewish for all intents and purposes. Not only that, but Moses is revered by just about every religion today and almost all of them use his words and teachings, which in include the ten commandments (and just so you know, that also includes Muslims who use have his teaching frequently in the Qu’ran and believe that the Torah was written by him).
So, if this is true, which religion is the government favoring in displaying them? Oh that is right… no one religion has a monopoly on the ten commandments and they are accepted by just about every religion on earth as part of their base beliefs.
Could it be that your argument is not that it really supports any one religion, or shows favoritism, but rather the mere fact that they are religious in nature? And that is what really offends you.
Report Post »Creestof
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:32pm@AmericanSoldier
I’m not denying anything. I compare those in the middle east with the beverly hillbillies. A bunch of 3rd world goatFOKers who discovered “black gold” on their property, became instantly mega-rich overnight, entered a CIVILIZED world the next day…all without ever having to evolve beyond their medieval, inhumane, horror of a history.
And all anyone in the actual civilzed world has done, is sell them whatever item, technology, weapon they wanted. It’s like arming a chimp with a RPG because they crap gold nuggets…it’s still a chimp with a RPG.
I have to wonder what the middle east would look like today if oil had not yet been found there yet…perhaps they would have developed as a culture with an open mind towards other societies and cultures. Perhaps they would have developed some other usable commodity/technology/invention other than sucking oil from the ground. Perhaps they would not still view their woman on the same level as their farm animals…and lust after both equally as well I might add.
Want a better example…go find one of those pygmy tribes in New Guinea and give them a bunch of tanks/automatic rifles/RPG’s/flame throwers, spend a month showing them how to use them…and then show them a weeks worth of American TV and a year’s worth of Playboy before handing them a map to the nearest westernized city. Then sit right back as they take over the population and demand that they too start wiping with leaves, inserting bones in their noses, eating fried spiders and praying to their holy coconut resembling Clak Gable…or be beheaded and eaten on saturday night.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:35pmexactly Grandma,i am so sick of being told we are required to bow to the ACLU,This nation was not founded by Muslums,or athiets or homosexuals,this nation was founded by Godly men praying and seeking God’s will and make this the best nation in history,it’s past time we all take on the ACLU,Leave the 10 commandents in the schools and in front of state capitols,no longer be silent .As for me and my house we shall serve the Lord God
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:39pm@ CAVEMAN………….Wow someone didn’t like me posting truth I had listed about six links to stories of children being expelled or suspended from school for praying in school. It was not led or influenced by any teachers. So your 1st assertion is completely bogus. I let you look them up yourself since putting links on here tend to get your comments removed.
Report Post »Upsetcitizen
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:40pmFine, no 10 commandment then, No praying on school ground either (no Muslim pray time in school). No refusing to participate in school activities because of religion either (stand up and pledge your elegance to the flag).
Report Post »Upsetcitizen
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:42pmAllegiance
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:45pmSoldiers_Son
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 6:22pm
@Soldiers_Son
“If that is the case, then what religion is the government favoring by displaying the ten commandments?”
Simple it is favoring the religions of Abraham. There is no context within Buddism, Hinduism, Shintoism, etc. for the 10 Commandments. Government at al time must be neutral with regards to religion.
Report Post »Soldiers_Son
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 7:14pm@ENCINOM
Let’s just take Buddhism as an example. While not exactly the ten commandments, they have their first five precepts, which are:
1. Refrain From Killing
2. Refrain from Stealing
3. Refrain from Lying, Slandering, Gossiping and Spreading Rumours
4. Refrain from Sexual Misconduct
5. Refrain from Taking Intoxicants
In addition to these, they also have the Eight Fold Path which is a guideline of how to live, similar in many ways to the ten commandments. You can find more here: http://www.boloji.com/buddhism/00110.htm
So, while they may not be exact, they convey the same ideas and many are close enough to leave no doubt that they share much of the same beginnings, inspiration and/or common sense that inspired the other.
Weather you want to accept it or not, the ten commandments are for all intents and purposes religion neutral until you (as an individual) put your bias on them. There is also nothing in the constitution that prevents the display of them in public places. As was stated before, the constitution does only two things in regard to religion: it prevents the government from organizing a religion and forcing that religion on you and it protects your freedom of religion by allowing you to worship as you see fit. The displaying of the ten commandments, even in a public place, infringes on neither of these two things.
Report Post »GEETAR
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 7:26pmWhat happened to us? We should pat these kids on the back for even knowing about god . The ragheads and commies can put up and say anything they want ,but kids believing in God is forbidden. This is a type of freedom of speech and their papers should pe put back up and anyone touching them should be prosecuted for hate crimes.If we have to let terrorist give speeches in washington against our way of life then they better damn well put these kids ten comandments back up!!!!
Report Post »Marcia
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 8:28pm@WATCHTHEOTHERHAND, you are SO right!! It‘s been awhile since I’ve read the Romans 1:28 passages, but they surely do fit in today’s climate, don’t they?
Report Post »hud
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 8:47pmThe Chinese water torture method for the destruction of the nation, one drop at a time and one day no more nation.
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 9:12pmGod Bless Those Students For Standing Up! We can stand up with those kids by emailing the Giles County School Board and letting them know America is watching.
Everytime I type out an actual email address, the blaze deletes my comment. So, I’ll just say, it’s very easy to find the e-addresses for school board members by going to their website. :)
Report Post »AmericanPower
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 9:13pmjust wait until they replace the 10 commandments with some sharia crap, then someone will be goin down.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 9:19pmSo whats new. I have been watching this kind of thing for a half century. Tomorrows headline will be about some homosexual victory. Sickening
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 9:21pmmissionarydad
Report Post »Thank GOD for these young students! I am sooooo sick of our govt pandering to the muslim and islamic “religion”. Our govt has turned into yellow bellies, with ****** the size of a grain of sand, if that.
If OUR GOD is continually being removed from every facet of our country, why? Will our govt force us to become muslim, or of the islamic faith? That is true “separation of church and state”, and no other. I fear for my country. I fear for my children, grandchildren, and friends. We The People…American citizens MUST take back our country, and it won’t happen by putting on blinders, putting your head in the sand, or thinking “that will never happen”…it will. WAKE UP AMERICANS! Contact your reps…speak out, and loudly while you still can.
P C BE DAMNED
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 9:59pmi sometimes wonder if when we as Americans enact laws allowing the murder of countless millions of unborn children and laws approving of homosexuallity if we are not the ones forcing Gods laws out of our own lives. Are you sure we are not the ones who told God to go away. I admit I am an American with innocent blood on my hands and I have allowed perversion to thrive in this country by not fighting it with everything I have. God forgive me, please.
Report Post »P C BE DAMNED
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 10:07pmTROLLTRAINER
Report Post »I beg to differ. The law has everything to do with salvation for without the law the Bible says there is no sin and therefore if there is no sin we do not need a Savior (Jesus). It all ties together and is very logical. If there is no speed limit laws you cannot break a speeding law. The law reveals sin. It also gives us a better way to live as the principles contained therein are superior to all other religions. No offence just FYI. Thanks
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 10:09pm@ MARCIA…………Amen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 10:54pm@SOLDIERS_SON
The 10 Commandments are not neutral. The first three Commandments would exclude poly-theist religions of the Hindus, Shintos and Shiks. Again your point to Buddhism, but again the First Amendment would exclude this religion also.
You are picking and choosing which Commandments are relevant and over looking the first, a violation of the first three.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 10:56pm@ PCBEDAMNED………..You and TROLLTRAINER are really both right. I may be presumptuous but I don’t think TROLL was trying to make a doctrinal statement that the law was not important or good to live by. I think he was trying to say we all break the law and are not justified by observing the law. That is why I responded to him in the affirmative. What you have stated is also right. It is through the law we become conscious of sin.
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin. Romans
Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. Romans
Know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified. Galatians 2:6
Remember we are under a better law than the law of Moses. The law of the Spirit……..But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control.
The law of Moses is very good and very beneficial and upheld by faith in Christ but the law of the Spirit in my opinion is even better. For what the law was powerless to do….impart life. The Spirit does do and the fruits listed above are the evidence of this in a changed heart and life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »cnsrvtvj
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 11:13pmThe more they take this out of our society, the more the society declines. Even if you aren’t religious, it does provide a structure in our country that is rapidly deteriorating.
http://www.donsmithshow.com – see the Society in Decline video
Report Post »black9897
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 11:30pmI live like 3-4 hours away from there in Hurt Va, and this is just ridiculous. Can’t have those evil 10 commandments in school. Someone might get offended…*gasp*
Report Post »snidley-whiplash
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 11:45pmW illing T o F ight
Report Post »Robert W
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 1:33amAnother nail in the coffin of this country. God is NOT a disinterested spectator!
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:48amThe never-ending war against Christianity…
Report Post »Gerrymanderer
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 7:15amLong live the Establishment Clause.
Report Post »glennbeckisstooopid
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 9:56amToo funny the “students” are upset??? I doubt the students give a crap. If they really cared or really followed the commandments they wouldn’t have almost came to blows over it. I love how “ God loving christians” are so ready to come to blows over trivial things like this. If you really are a follower of Jesus Christ it would not be necessary to display them as a reminder of how to behave. You would already know how to treat your fellow humans. But then again from what I’ve seen here, maybe the ten commandments should be the first thing you all see when you come here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzEs2nj7iZM
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 10:17am@ GLENNBECKISSOOOSMAAARRTT………………..Your age old argument of denigrating Christians because they have sin, crying hypocrite! hypocrite! Will not excuse your lack of faith as you face judgment. You will not be able to justify yourself by pointing to the sin of others in any way. I can say with all honesty that I would love to talk with you face to face in a personal way and share with you why I have the faith I do. I used to be an atheist and had much angst against Christians, so I know where you are coming form, however, other sinners are not the measure of which to condemn Jesus or what He taught or reject the salvation that he offers. Which is the whole point of Christianity, acknowledging that we all have sin and need a savior to redeem us from the curse of the law and eternal death. I will pray for you today and hope this doesn’t offend you. I hope you will consider my words and think on them rather than just dismissing them. Thank you.
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Posted on March 2, 2011 at 10:26amtrolltrainer
Posted on March 1, 2011 at 4:46pm
Encinom, please show me where it says this in the constitution! It is not in there. It says the federal government shall NOT meddle in established religion.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Even someone as blind as you can surely understand the context this is written in? Congress cannot forbid the posting of the ten commandments in a school. Not without amending this first. The Supreme Court has no power to make law, only to interpret law and give an OPINION on it.
What do you have against the ten commandments? Why do you hate God? ;-)
Report Post »First which God are you claiming he hates?( be more specific please.)
I noticed you said “I would not object to cutouts of the Greek gods on the walls.” (Because they are a myth maybe?)
How about a copy of the Koran in all the class rooms.
I hear all the time how “Muzzlums” shouldn’t be allowed to have a place to pray in schools.
Hypocricy much. IOKIYAR I guess.
trolltrainer
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 12:11pmP C Be Damned,
Of course you are right. As Watchtheotherhand has already mentioned I was talking simply about salvation by faith alone. Of course the law still applies, though there is great debate on how much the levitical law does apply to us today. Things like sabbath day even but how about food and cleanliness laws? The point of the law, as has been mentioned, was to show us how dirty we actually are. As Matthew 5 says, Jesus did not come to destroy the law but rather fulfill it. He supersedes the law. Love your God before everything else and love your neighbor as yourself. These are the key ideas. Of course we should try to obey the 10 commandments, but what did you do last Sabbath day? (Saturday)
Beckisstupid/beckisnuts/encinom/whatever name you are going by today,
First, I find it sad that you would come in here and try to double team someone with alternate aliases. You really are a mental case, that alone should be reason enough to not even bother with you.
But I will. You write:
“First which God are you claiming he hates?( be more specific please.)
I noticed you said “I would not object to cutouts of the Greek gods on the walls.” (Because they are a myth maybe?)
How about a copy of the Koran in all the class rooms.
I hear all the time how “Muzzlums” shouldn’t be allowed to have a place to pray in schools.
Hypocricy much. IOKIYAR I guess.”
There is only one living God. You can worship anything you like, but Yahweh, Jehovah God is the only God. But do you think the Greek or Romans who believed in their gods thought of them as myth? I know any other god is a myth, so how does your silly reasoning even apply? I do not care what you worship, I can only tell you about Jesus Christ, but it is up to you to find truth. I really do not care, most people are going to end up in hell. It is too bad, but all they had to do was accept the free gift of salvation. It is their stupidity they did not. Especially those who have been told the gospel message over and over.
Why should a copy of the koran be allowed in the classroom if the Bible is not allowed? Again, your logic is astonishingly stupid. However, I would not mind korans in the classroom as long as Bibles are allowed also. I do not mind Muslims being allowed to pray as long as Christians enjoy the same freedom. In fact, I will FULLY support this. I would even support a separate prayer room where Muslims could spread out on their rugs and bow to Mecca. Sure, why not? As long as Christians have the same freedoms.
Hypocrisy? Maybe on some subjects, sure. But I have nothing against the freedom of worship. It is one of our rights. It seems like you are on the side that wished to take that away.
Report Post »Curator_JDR
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 12:34pmThe Ten Commandments are an updating of the 7 Laws of Noah (Noahide Laws) which have been with humanity for thousands and thousands of years.
This historic interview on Israel National Radio explains how the Ten Commandments were derived from the 7 Noahide Laws and lifts the veil of confusion off of ancient history. This is CRUCIAL KNOWLEDGE for modern times. http://www.marcrubin.com/judean-eve.ivnu
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 12:35pmI want to go even further than my previous post because this needs said. Though this thread is old and will probably not be read my many more.
Not only do I support korans and Bibles in school, I encourage classes to actually teach the basis of different religions. Hopefully they would be a bit more truthful than the current run of the mill college level “history of religion” class, but I have no problem talking about any faiths. The purpose is not to indoctrinate or debunk, but rather to inform…To educate. The whole reason why we have schools in the first place. Why not lay it all out on the table for the children and let them decide the truth? Christians do not have a fear of this! Only atheists.
Further: The whole creation/evolution controversy is easily solved. Teach both! But teach the honest truth about them. The fact is we do not know what happened and never will. There was either an intelligent creator or there was not, it was an accident. Everything else boils down to those two choices. So teach the facts. Teach what religions say and teach what current evolution theories say. I homeschool my kids using a Christian curriculum. But I can guarantee that they know more about evolution than 95% of the people in here. More because they know the truth behind the various theories.
Let’s quit fighting and trying to hide the truth. Let’s lay ALL knowledge out on the table. I do not fear teachers teaching Islam, evolution, or liberalism. Just as long as there is a proper balance with Christianity, creationism, and conservative principles.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 1:56pm@ TROLLTRAINER……Amen !!!! I agree, if we have the Truth (and I am most convinced we do) then there is absolutely nothing, and I mean nothing, that we should be fearful of being taught with full disclosure. The truth, reason, and facts I am most convinced are on our side. We need only be faithful to proclaim it. Science is most definitely God’s science. In fact, most early scientists were strong men of Christian faith. Science is merely the discovery of God‘s creation and the principles that govern it’s relationships. Unless of course you won’t even entertain the possibility that there is a creator, which is a presupposition based on a bias before even considering the weight of the evidence. God bless you TROLLTRAINER. Have a great day.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on March 2, 2011 at 6:50pmgreat to see young people standing up for whats right. God forbid a quran was banned from the school. the aclu would hop on al gores jet to be there pronto.
Stand strong Young Americans- We stand with you!
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 3:19amyup, demonstrate and strike. let them know how it feels. let the school board know how you feel. threaten to take your kids out of that school, that many families will collectively hire private teachers and that they will have to pay for it. Oh yes, they will pay.
Taking charge of our lives and public morals again……I’ve had enough of this kind of mentality thrown at me…have you?
Report Post »I CHOOSE THE RED PILL MR PRESIDENT
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 4:01amRight. Because the 10 Commandments are so horrible. No killing, no stealing, no lying, no cheating on your spouse, be nice to your parents, don’t worship money,… Such silly ideas. They should be removed from every public place because the public has no need for such extremist views…
Report Post »neverfinal
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 9:07amHow can so few, win against the masses that want our God given rights upheld. It is time to go up against these few trouble makers. We have our rights and it is time to stand up against these ungodly evil forces. Tolerance is starting to look like a sin to me. Let’s all order t-shirts for our kids to where to school. One for every day of the week. We have rights and we need to stand up for what is good and Godly. Come on Christian’s, this can’t be done without us. Close the gate of evil, that is trying to get in. It is up to us.
Report Post »aprilopatt
Posted on March 3, 2011 at 11:04pmWhat happened to the CHRISTIAN’S rights? Where is the ACLU for the kids the want to post the 10 commandments? I guess if they were any other religion they would have the right to post their beliefs.These Children need all the support they can get for standing up for what is right. They are the future of our country and there faith makes me proud. God Bless And I believe in what you are standing up for.
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