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Wyoming Ski Collision Kills Snowboarder & 5-Year-Old Girl

This is just about as awful a story as could happen on any day.  On a Christmas weekend it seems worse.

I’m sure many will read the headline and be tempted to blame the snowboarder.  And that may be the truth.  Hard to know at this point.  I only know that some of my initial preconceptions had to be set aside as I learned more.

Let’s start with the story from the Casper Star-Tribune:

Two people died Friday after a snowboarder collided with two skiers at Hogadon Ski Area on Casper Mountain.

The snowboarder crashed into a five-year-old girl and her mother as the two were stopped on a ski run, Sheriff’s Lt. Mark Sellers said Saturday.

All three were taken to Wyoming Medical Center. The man and the girl were pronounced dead at the hospital. The mother, who lives in the Casper area, was injured and remained hospitalized a day after the crash. An update on her condition was not available.

The accident occurred at about 2:30 p.m. as the snowboarder, a 22-year-old Casper man, was riding down a black-diamond run called Dreadnaught. The exact circumstances surrounding the crash remain under investigation by the sheriff’s office, Sellers said.

No one involved in the crash was wearing a helmet, according to authorities.

A shattering moment on a Christmas Eve.  Dreadnaught.  It means “fear nothing.” But this moment shows that we are all but a whisper away from that which we do fear indeed.

Without knowing these three, we can only transport ourselves into what we imagine them to be.  A mother watching her little girl take hold of the magic adrenalin found in winter adventure.  A little girl feeling the thrill of accomplishment knowing mom is watching and maybe Santa too.  A young man testing his limits and savoring things you will understand more in a moment.

A holiday Friday in a beautiful place.  And in a flash it’s over.

I don’t know what happened on this black-diamond run.  I do know that the friends of the young man made me pause as the last moments of Christmas night slipped away.

Some of you may feel you’ve read enough.  You might want to skip watching the video.  Or you will watch for a bit and then click out.  I almost did.  But there was something about the way the first young woman said…“shredding for him”…that didn’t quite make sense at first.  It soon did.

KCWY-TV:

One last run. Skiers and snowboarders know the pull.  Maybe everyone else was too tired.  “I’m just gonna go.”  And that was it.  His friends paid respects by “shredding for him.”  But you get the picture that he focused on “shredding for Him.”  Most 22-year-old snowboarders don’t make it a point to prioritize spiritual witness at every turn.

This, of course, does not undo the faith-testing ache of something so inexplicable.  And maybe I’ve mulled it all the more for having spent a beautiful Christmas week closely watching my youngest child who is approaching her fifth birthday in a few days.  I can’t promise deep wisdom in a late-night news post on The Blaze.

My mother did have a birthday two day before Christmas.  I gave her a new book by Phillip Yancey called, “What Good is God?”  Yancey nearly died in a terrible accident a few years ago.  A patch of black ice. The doctor told him to call his loved ones and say goodbye. Yancey has always wrestled and written about just the kind of thing that happened at the Hogadon Ski Area.  “Any discussion of how pain and suffering fit into God’s scheme ultimately leads back to the cross,” he once wrote.

It’s a hard thing to wrestle with in Wyoming tonight.

But let there be grace.

Can grace take hold in Christmas heartbreak?  Yancey once wrote a book called, “What’s So Amazing About Grace?”  There are a lot of question marks in his book titles.  You may have noticed a preponderance of posts on The Blaze today that evidenced terrible disquiet on a day wrapped in the promise of peace.  Last word to Yancey: “Grace is the most perplexing, powerful force in the universe, and, I believe, the only hope for our twisted, violent planet.”

The grace of the cross may be more a subject for Easter.  But the journey to Easter began in Bethlehem.  Amazing.

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  • scoutxlt
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 9:29am

    I Pray for the Family and Friends of Both of the people involved in this tragedy, and for the recovery of the survivor… it is truly a tragedy when any life is cut short, especially when they are both so young. But I have to say, from personal experience on a number of occasions… that thankfully didn’t end this badly, stopping on the hill while at times “necessary” is the most dangerous thing anyone can do. Especially on a Black Diamond run, where due to the terrain and possibly weather… your not always able to see obstacles down below you until your right on them. On one occasion in UT; I had a “Group” of novice skiers parked in the middle of a black dimmond run, hidden just below a rise…. and when I came blazing through the pack at a fairly high speed, there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING I could have done to keep from hitting them, the Good Lord was watching that day, and thankfully nobody was seriously injured, but it could have gone so, so much worse. People need to be aware of where they are “Stopping” on the hill, they need to make sure they are in an area where visibility is adequate, so that both themselves and people ABOVE them can see them clearly. I can not emphasize that enough… this was sadly quite likely an “avoidable” accident, but in no way am I pointing a finger, just stating the obvious… These sorts of “accidents” are avoidable, with some common sense & pre-planned rules on the hill… whether your skiing or boarding, the safety issue is the same. Don’t Stop in an area where visibility is limited… especially on a Black Diamond Run, due to the terrain involved… this Guy, I don’t doubt for a moment; had no time what so ever to react, and the sad sad consequence that followed is the result. Please be aware of your surroundings out there, for your own safety, and those who are around you… My Prayers to all involved in this truly sad sad event…

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    • thejackal
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:12am

      I agree that stopping below a knoll or in the middle of a run is inherently dangerous, but regardless. If you slam into a stopped skiier then legally it’s YOUR fault. It is always the overtaking skiier or the skiier higher on the slope that bears the responsibility. I’m sure that in time it will be proven that the snow boarder was at fault. I‘m sure he was ’shredding’ at the time.

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  • HTuttle
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 9:27am

    BTW, also frequently ski with RESPONSIBLE boarders.

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  • HTuttle
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 9:25am

    40+ years skiing without more than a blister, only to have my leg broken by reckless boarders playing SnowCross with a steep slope warning entry gate.

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    • thejackal
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:05am

      Exactly, they aren’t all bad, but the bad ones ruin it for everyone. “Rippin’, shreddin” whatever they call it, it means out of control. The thing about snowboarding it requires almost no skill. So you get these losers that board for a year and think they are ‘awesome’. I’ve been skiing for 37 years, including heli skiing in Canada and Europe, boarders are a MENACE. And cause accidents everywhere. No doubt this was his fault.

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    • mtnclimberjim
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:08am

      Hey JACKEL,

      You are a idiot. Boarders and skiers ride just fine together. I’ve blasted a few runs in my day with a few boarders. bout 40yrs worth. Even done a few sled rides. You are one of those asshats that think your better than everyone. Bet your one of those ******* that throw a tantrum when you miss a turn. Your laughable. You think the slopes should be segregated? All you dumb asses that don’t have a clue and are scared of the slopes need to stay on the bunny hill until you grow a set. If you want a helmet go for it, don’t tell me I have to wear one. The slopes are built to the riders ability. By the way we just got a new dump of fresh pow today, think I’ll take the fatties out.

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    • stoneflyMT
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:37pm

      Jackel, I imagine you’re the type of jerk on the mountain that nobody will ski with. You are the exact definition of elitist douche bag.

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  • HTuttle
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 9:22am

    “Rippin’ hard, like we always do” = boarding too fast and out of control.

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  • militarybrat1
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:59am

    My familiy and I just got back from one of our may ski/snowboard vacations. You CANNOT generalize one type of skiier or snowboarder. It is the idiots who do not want to pay for private lessons. This weekend an obviously good skiier purposely ran over my snowboard, my husband witnessed this. Then the next day two female yound skiiers where yelling at everyone to get out of their way because they could not stop. My family skis and snowboards, but we take lessons and ski defensively, I pray for both families. I believe it was an accident on both parts. My familiy stays away from black diamonds and we have been skiing and snowboarding for years. Why would a five year old without helmet be anywhere near one?

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  • givemelibertyorgivemedeath
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:53am

    Regardless of our opinions, there are two families that are heartbroken today and we should all show empathy towards them. In accidents there is always someone to blame, but blame won’t bring back either of them. Let’s move on and pray for the hundreds of people that are affected by this tragedy. Because name calling, and finger pointing isn’t bringing anyone back.

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  • SlimnRanger
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:36am

    such a sad story ,Dear God wrap your arms of love and mercy around both families,we never know why bad things happen to good people but it does,one day we all will have the answers as to the Why

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  • AzDebi
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:25am

    I thought that snowboarders and skiers used separate runs? I had a close encounter with a run-away snowboard a few years back…I was down from a fall part way down the slope when a loose board squealed past my head…my life could have been over in an instant if it had connected…wasn’t long after that that the resort created different runs for the different sports…My heart goes out to all those involved…they are in my prayers.

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    • thejackal
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:35am

      I don‘t know what planet you ski on dude but their aren’t seperate runs for snowboarders. Here on earth they are allowed to reek havoc on all the regular ski runs. The only exception being a half-pipe or boarder park, although skiiers are usually allowed on the pipes and parks as well. Don’t get me wrong, I think boarders are a menace. Most of them are ‘boarding’ way beyond their ability, and skiiers as we see here pay the price.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:48am

      @THEJACKAL…can‘t swear to it because I haven’t skied in 10 years, but I do know that Sun Rise Ski Resort here in Arizona did create different runs…at least I can say that they did for a while…WOW…if you are correct (and you probably are)…just those two sports combined on a slope would be a REAL TURNOFF for me if I had young children, huh?

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    • scoutxlt
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 9:49am

      There are a number of “Areas” that Do Not Allow boarders on the runs… they are Ski Only, this is in Utah… and doubtless else were as well. They do somewhat require different terrain modifications, although more and more they are blending… but still when you combine GS or Super G skiing & snowboarders, the net result is never good… At the end of the day though, its the responsibility of those “Down Below” on the hill to be aware of their location, stopping anywhere on a Black Diamond run for any amount of time, is asking for trouble… whether your on skis or a snowboard. Its not necessarily the case that someone is “out of control” speed is what is at play here, and you can be going quite fast and be in complete control…. That is until you pop over a rise, and there are people standing in the middle of your run…. then gravity & physics come in to play, and the human body is not built for that event. My Prayers out to All concerned… and be Safe out there on the hill!

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    • sethlevy
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 9:52am

      To Jackal: So, should the government now enforce your preference to only allow skiers on the slopes? If the snowboard problem is as big as you say it is, there is certainly a big enough market to warrant building a skier only mountain. Can’t do it yourself? Get to Deer Valley, Alta, or Mad River Glen which are ski only resorts. I have been skiing and snowboarding for 20 years and have never caused an accident on either. I am glad that ski only resorts like the ones mentioned above exist if only to get the stuck up skiers like yourself off the slopes where everyone else can share.

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    • REETZBEE
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:41am

      I‘ve been skiing for 30 years and the one thing that skier’s and snowboarders should do when they stop on the run is to get over to the side as far as possible and do not stop in the middle of the run.

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    • stoneflyMT
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:35pm

      thejackel is an elitist snob that thinks his way is the only way. I’ve seen plenty of skiers ski “beyond their abilities” as thejackel likes to say. Skiers are no better than snowboaders. thejackel is a tool

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  • thejackal
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:25am

    Snowboarders are continuously causing accidents. They are frequently completely out of control and ‘boarding’ beyond their capabilities. As an extreme skiier I see this almost on a daily basis. The next question is, why in God’s name was a five year old girl on a black diamond run! I blame the boader and the mother for this one. P.S. I wear a large spike on the top of my helmet for snowboarders, they suck!

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:38am

      Jackal, I used to share your feelings about snowboarders! They seemed to move in quirky and unpredictable ways. They always seemed to be just sitting there on the slopes, whole flocks of them, in the most inconvenient places. Worst of all, they seemed hellbent on scraping all the snow off the trails, leaving nothing but ice.

      But, you know what? If you study their ways a little, as if theirs were a foreign culture, you can learn to ski happily with snowboarders all around you, and, as with foreign cultures, you can learn to appreciate what is unique about what they do, as well as what they have in common with you. They’re out having fun in winter, just like you, which is surely better than lying on the couch eating Cheezypoofs and watching other people play sports, no? Also, lots of them these days tend to congregate in terrain parks, where the chances of collisions with skiers are minimal. Don’t forget, either, that without them, a lot of ski resorts would long since have either folded or had to jack up ticket prices to levels few of us non-elites could afford.

      Many things combined to make this tragedy in Wyoming: no helmets, a bad choice of stopping places for the mother and her daughter, and–I’d say most of all–the young man’s decision to violate one of the basic maxims of skiing/snowboarding, “Never take that last run.”

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    • LONGTIMEMAMMOTHSKIER
      Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:44pm

      yep, “Never take that last run.” seems most of my friends get hurt on those

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  • Insipid
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 7:43am

    I broke my back in a somewaht similiar incident. A youngster was on a run had fallen and was sitting in the middle of the run because he was afraid to get up. Fortunately I missed him but I hit his ski that was buried under the run. The reality is that there was noone to blame as it was an accident. Throwing blame doesnt being anyone back nor does it heal injuries sustained in accidents. My prayers go out to both families as this tragedy will be one that affects them for many years to come.

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    • Yell0wsh0e
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:50am

      snowboading scum

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    • Insipid
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:11am

      Umm, was on skis. As mentioned in many previous posts, “The Blaze” is a perfect name for this site. So many people are just looking for somone to flame or something to argue about. Perhaps you should put that yellow shoe in your mouth with your innaccurate rush to judgement.

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  • JRAGWEED
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 7:26am

    I taught my youngsters to ski at an early age. Would never take them on a moderate run, moguls, and certainly not a black diamond. Those are for experts! What was the mom doing with a 5 yr old on a black diamond? Or was he coming off the end of the diamond to fast? A terrible tragedy that probably should have been avoided by the boarder. He is required to look ahead. May God bless their greaving families.

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  • GeauxAlready
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 7:23am

    Life is never fair. Hope the families find some peace……………

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  • wodiej
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 7:20am

    Tragedy that very well could have been avoided. Our society simply does not hold anyone accountable, especially youth, for their actions regardless of how reckless and irresponsible. Parents need to make sure they are teaching their kids that wrongdoing brings pain. If they don’t they will either cause it or be the victim of it. Actions have consequences that most often cannot be undone.

    I said a prayer for this mother this morning. She is going to need much help to get through this grief.

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  • panther440
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 6:42am

    And just why are they letting these kids (or anyone else) wear HEADPHONES to listen to loud music while skiing ?? I grew up in Colorado and can’t tell you the number of times I was able to save my own bacon because I was alerted to an out of control skier by the sound of their ski edges cutting ice or their screams to get out of the way ! ! What’s next ? .. TEXTING on skis ?

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    • thejackal
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:31am

      The moron boarder had the headphones on not the girl or her mother. I guarantee it was the boader’s fault, they are always skiing beyond their ability. They are a menace on the slopes, the way they continuously dart back and forth across the slope taking up the entire run, pushing all the snow off the run ect. I can’t stand them, they should have their own runs. By the way what was a 5 year old girl doing on a black diamond run, with no helmet, the mother is a moron. I guess she learned the hard way.

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    • LONGTIMEMAMMOTHSKIER
      Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:17pm

      ? .. TEXTING on skis ? probably
      I’m waiting for snowmobiles to come flying out of the trees on to the runs.
      $$$$$$$$ win out over rules and common sense.

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  • wolverine
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 6:32am

    This is typical of today’s culture it is all about me and the hell with antbody that gets in my way

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  • Societal Misfit
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 6:26am

    While reading this article two main questions popped into my head, the first was why, at the very least, according to information in the article, was the 5 year old not wearing a helmet let alone anyone that is going down such a run, second was what was a 5 year old doing on such a run. No I am placing blame, just a couple of questions that popped into my head while reading is all.

    That said this is such a tragedy for all involved. Could it have been avoided? I am sure it could have but tragedies happen all the time even when the best precautions are taken. Right now all one can do is pray for all those involved.

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    • Highland
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 7:46am

      Yes, perhaps the 5-year-old shouldn’t have been on or near the black diamond run and she should have worn a helmet. Thankfully, the nanny state may take care of our children in that way, too. Have you not heard of the couple whose child died sledding and now they want the federal government to REQUIRE all children to wear helmets while engaging in winter sports? *sigh*

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    • timm84
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 3:03pm

      my problem is black diamond is a higher speed/more difficult type of trail, they should not have been on it, and certainly not stopped on it

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    • LONGTIMEMAMMOTHSKIER
      Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:14pm

      Could it have been avoided? Yes, the Uphill shredder should have stayed under control or gone in with his “shredding” friends. The mother and 5year old had a right to be anywhere on the mountain they wanted. The rules of the mountain dictate Uphill is responsible for avoiding downhill. The fact that they are “shredders” says it all.

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  • Sergio Q
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 5:34am

    too much sorrow , may they rest in peace & the truth be known

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  • DeltaHawk
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 5:31am

    Heart breaker, Only God knows why!

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  • BiteMePETA
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 4:50am

    Here come the helmet police… as if we need more laws to control us…

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    • wireplay
      Posted on December 27, 2010 at 1:44am

      We don’t need legislation to wear helmets. People who ski/board a lot and live in those areas wear helmets out of common sense.

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    • LONGTIMEMAMMOTHSKIER
      Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:04pm

      wireplay is right, if you’re on the mountain enough common sense tells you to wear one, love my helmet and didn’t think I would

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  • Fabian_Hunter
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 4:35am

    Another reason NOT to ski during the holidays… or on weekends… or without a helmet!
    God bless their souls.

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  • joe3
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 4:25am

    His friends said it all, moto-cross, sounds like an adrenalin junky who’ killed a 5 year old girl in front of her mom because he cant watch where he is going. Real shredder, there is a rule on a ski hill, if you cant see it don’t ski it. I wont get into it, but I will say I have personally handled this situation many times. Its one thing if you want to handle yourself like a jerk and get yourself killed. Its another thing when your actions result in someone getting injured or killed. 24 year old adrenalin junky jerk. Its easy to be in control and ride with caution, obviously this kid was not worried about hurting someone else. He’s a murderer, just like a kid in a sports car who wipes out a family. Sad thing is if he survived, there would be no jail time. This poor girls mom will be dead inside forever cuz that s.;” head had to get his rocks off. Was it wort it sport? I do not care what the situation was, even if mom was in a tough spot, this was not her fault. I skied 150 days a year for 10 years, and never caused a situation remotely like this. I keep eyes on the back of my head, and watch out constantly for some bandana wearing douch bag who does not care if he wipes someone out. You want an adrenalin rush, go into the Marines and get your ass shot at. Ski resorts are for families, make your mountain dew commercial some place else.

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 4:41am

      sometimes anger is understandable, but you seem to not take into consideration, that this adrenaline junie , was getting his rush in the one location that one should be getting that rush………on a black diamond rated slope

      what was a five yr old doing stopped on a black diamond slope?

      this was nothing but a tragic accident, and both sides are complicit with the decisions they made

      I pray for both families as they try to deal with loss

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    • joe3
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 4:59am

      You need to be even more careful on a black diamond, your going to blame the kid, WTF is wrong with you? Look I scrape peoples sorry asses off ski hills for a living. I deal with scum like this kid who do not give a crap who they hurt. No this is not where you get your adrenalin rush, its where you make dam sure you do not get hurt. You really are going to say its this 5 year olds fault for being with her mom stopped on a steep trail, guess what, everyone stops on steep trails. People teach kids on steep trails. You don’t fly over blind spots where some one could be. I got news, no helmet would have made a difference. This murderer ran her over. Its a fact, when her mom reads comments like yours it will wrongly kill her. Yea Im angry, I have been covered head to toe in someones brains. It was a preventable accident, simply watch where you go. Its the mentality of this hack that killed this little girl that makes me mad. Ski mountains have people all over them, watch where you go and stay in control. I don’t give a F904 what kind of trail it is.

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    • Hefsmaster
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 7:22am

      I’m with you all the way joe. Did you notice that stoner slowness going on too. I used to love to water ski, downhill, dirt bike,4 wheel all that stuff. It got to the point where i just can’t feel safe anymore. The part that ****** me off is when many of these types are not “feeling it” and “having fun” if it does not get hairy, radical out of control chaos that endangers them and others. . “Did you see that dude”… Like you said perfectly. Go relive the mountain dew commercial somewhere else. Like that corvette driver. There is a time and a place for everything.

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    • WAR PIGS CRAWLING
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:54am

      @Joe3…..where to start… (a) former Marine… (b) lucky to be alive… (c) 3 young kids that ski… (d) former 22 year old male.

      There is nothing “good” about this story. If you are ski patrol, you need to find another occupation…maybe an RA in a college dorm. Stay clear of law enforcement…I don’t want you standing next to me.

      Take your Ritalin.

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    • spinwizard
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 9:03am

      Thank you Joe

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    • Dirty Harry
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 9:45am

      Warpig, Joe3 nailed it!

      Unfortunately too many cops who think like you have spread into LE like herpes. It is you who needs to find a job more suitable to your temperment. I hear Sonic needs carhops.

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    • mtnclimberjim
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:10am

      JOE,
      Lot’s of decisions were made that day that may not have been the best. I understand your need to lash out. I’ve been a 2 planker all my life and I go with the rush. If you will look on the back of your lift pass you will see the warning that this sport can kill you. This is why why they have runs developed for the rush. I see the simple fact that some people ended up on a run they had no business being on . Same thing as walking onto a highway to take a shortcut. You have control issues and are one of those ass hats that ride the slopes looking for a fight. I‘ve seen people like you at every resort I’ve been to. You think your way is the only way. I can‘t imagine how many altercations you’ve had in your time on the slopes. Believe me your not all you think you are. My advice to you is that you find a different sport and quit looking for fights on the slopes. Prayers to the families.
      Merry Christmas

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    • joseph Fawcett
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:29am

      Joe, I can understand why you are very angry. I think that you are very bias therefore you anger is directed in one direction. That is ok in someway because that is you. From what I understand the slop this happen on was a steep difficult slop, right. It was then very foolish of the mother and daughter to be stopped and not moved off to the side out of the line of traffic. That is common sense taking in account that there are young men and women doing irresponsible skiing. If you are a ski patrol and you rescue people for a living on the slopes, then because of your comments. I have to agree with a couple of others who commented on your comment. You need to find something else to do for a living. This is eating you alive, man. You are not unbias and you have something effecting your judgement, anger. It will eat you alive and hurt many others and relationships with others. It is time to take a break and try to have peace return to yourself. Your attitude is not professional and should not be on the slopes rescuing others. you need rescuing yourself from this.

      My heart goes out for all three. There is not much to say, other than God is incontrol and we many have a hard time figuring out why. God has His reasons and purposes. Many times we just can’t understand because we have our own ideas, beliefs, and expectaions of how God should do things in our lives and the world. We are not God and we are not our own creator. We forget that we depend on God for every breath we take and every heart beat. We are just His creation, created for His pleasure, only created in His image. We were not created to be gods and be incontrol. We have become a proud creation and pride (there is no good pride) is the heart of our world. Pride was the sin of Satan. Thats what I think about all this, and about your comments Joe. BGB

      http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist

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    • timm84
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 3:02pm

      ahh the old ski vs snowboard crap. I have a better question mr ski resorts are for families. a black diamond trail (as the trail in question is) is one of the fastest and most technically difficult trails to ski/snowboard. They are very fast trails with turns and moguls. What the hell was a 5yr old and her mother doing on that type of trail. Why on earth would they STOP on this type of trail, seems to me they were in a place they should not have been

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    • JoeySocal
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 7:18pm

      There is a lot of missing info in this story about the run. There are many many runs that cross into the bottom of a diamond run. 5 years old isn’t too young to be on a run like this. I was skiing bump runs at that age and I see many 5 yo kids that are incredible snow boarders as well. At the end of the day its the skier/boarder going downhill that is responsible for avoiding whats ahead. Its his fault. Not sure a helmet would of made any difference but you should always wear one. I never wore one until I went to Whistler and while waiting in line realized I was the only person without one. My prayers go out to all the families involved.

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    • joe3
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:25pm

      @war pigs, Ill try this again, last post did not show up. I read what I wrote, I can see how I came off as
      pissed off, but in no way did I say anything “good” came out of this. That would be insensitive. I feel bad for everyone involved. I was mad when I wrote those responses. I was a 22 year old also. I did not like hearing people blame the mother for this. I do firmly believe it was a preventable accident caused by the 22 year old. Either way posting at 4am on christmas was a poor decision. What I don’t want is for someone to read what I wrote and think I was glad the 22 year old was killed. If he survived, would not have been arrested. Im not so sure that is good. Please take another look at what I did write, if it comes off as me being glad this guy was hurt, then thats my fault for not writing clearly. I did not mean to imply that.

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:12am

      Joe3- His friends said it all?
      Your judgement is deduced from a cute teenage kid saying he cried for “like 15 minutes” To a kid that’s like “awhile”
      Your hateful rant is from someone who is obviously hurting.
      The hurt typically have a vicious “I’ll get them before they get me” attitude
      Sorry for your loss.

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    • LONGTIMEMAMMOTHSKIER
      Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:02pm

      I’m with you Joe. I see way too much of it. Mammoth has more than it’s share of out of control shredders, it brings them more $$$$. They are now promoting Acro-Bags they’ve installed in the boardparks. Rode the lift above it with a father that said his son couldn’t wait to try it. Have a neighbor that is a stuntman that says you can killed falling on one if you aren’t trained to do it correctly. Will be interesting. The mountain always has better lawyers than the injured. The winter industry is focusing on $$$$$ rather than safety risk or education..

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  • grandmaof5
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 3:56am

    God received two new angels and only He knows why they were taken with their lives still ahead of them. Our thoughts and prayers go out to their families and friends.

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  • dnaburns
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 2:42am

    This make me so sad for the people involved my heart goes out to them and may god watch over their souls. Now these days we are so quick to search out someone to assign blame to, when in reality sometimes tragedy just happens. So let‘s all just take a moment to thank the lord for our love ones and hug them tell them you love them just in case it’s the last time.

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  • walkwithme1966
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 2:42am

    Beautiful article Scott!

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  • Cherished Emblems
    Posted on December 26, 2010 at 2:36am

    My prayers go out to the families involved. May they find peace in Jesus Christ.

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    • RobertCA
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 3:21am

      Amen .

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    • tgarrett369
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 3:56am

      here today gone tomorrow. sad sad sad. be prepared to go at any time

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    • burnteye86
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 5:24am

      Your prayers would mean much more if they went out FOR the family. but, I believe that’s what you meant. I also would like to think that when someone says their prayers are going out FOR someone that they actually close their eyes and actually SAY a prayer.

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 6:17am

      Scott, we feel your compassion AND your pain, within your writing. If not for your telling us to watch the entire video, we wouldn’t know that important fact about the young man. Thank you.
      Pray for that mom. Her pain, and even guilt, must be awful.

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    • Tony
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 9:27am

      Amen.

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    • snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:14am

      Amen here.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:47am

      Tragedy indeed, at least they were doing what they wanted
      and no matter what you do everyone dies sooner or later
      it is how you live that counts.
      Some people are Brave and do things that are right
      even if it puts their life in danger
      Sonny Bono was such a Man
      http://www.tabloidbaby.com/Source/sonny.htm

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