‘You Cannot Rehabilitate the Hoodie’: Geraldo Partially Blames Hoodie-Wearing for Trayvon Martin Shooting
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In a segment that is sure to garner attention, Geraldo Rivera said that the Trayvon Martin shooting can partially be traced back to Martin’s clothing choice: a hoodie.
To be sure, Geraldo did make sure to go after the shooter, George Zimmerman, who many believe to be motivated by racist hate. But he also offered a new theory.
“I believe that George Zimmerman, the overzealous neighborhood watch captain, should be investigated to the fullest extent of the law and if he is criminally liable he should be prosecuted,” Geraldo said. “But I am urging the parents of black and Latino youngsters, particularly, to not let their children go out wearing hoodies. I think the hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin’s death as George Zimmerman was.”
“When you see a kid walking down the street, particularly a dark-skinned kid like my son Cruz, who I constantly yelled out when he was going out wearing a damn hoodie or those pants around his ankles, ‘Take that hood off!’”
He went on to say that people associate the hoodie with crime.
“You have to recognize that this whole stylizing yourself as a gangster– you’re going to be a gangster want-to-be. Well, people are going to perceive you as a menace, that’s what happens.”
That wasn’t all, he added that while Martin is “innocent,“ ”I’ll bet you money, that if he didn’t have that hoodie on, that nutty neighborhood watch guy wouldn’t have responded in that violent and aggressive way.”
“You cannot rehabilitate the hoodie!” he exclaimed later. “Stop wearing it!”
“He wore an outfit that allowed someone to respond in this irrational, overzealous way, and if he’d been dressed more appropriately–,” he added before saying hoodies should be left for rainy days and track meets.*
You can watch the segment below:
*(According to the Associated Press, it was raining the night of Martin’s death.)
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Apple Bite
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:28amSorry, but the person make the clothes. Never let the clothes make you, who you are…
Report Post »9111315
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:32amHide your face and cop an attitude, get shoot. Your choice.
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:35am“Killed seemingly without reason”?
Why is nobody talking about other facts? Like a short Cuban law-abiding citizen being attacked and beaten by 6′2” thug dressed in hoodie? Cuban guy was covered in his own blood when police arrived? There have been a few break-ins in their GATED COMMUNITY recently? Looks like a self-defense to me.
Another “I don’t know the facts, but police acted stupidly” moment?
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:37amThe Race pimps have gotten in the First and Loudest word so far. It will be interesting to hear what actually happened, with BOTH points of view without the LSM Racial inflaming.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:38amThugs and those who excuse them (many the same who are now protesting this death) have made the hoodie part of their attire .. .like wearing gang colors … on this I agree with Geraldo (you won’t hear me say that often) it isn’t the good kids “fault” but it isn’t a safe thing to wear.
Report Post »EndTheGOPTEA
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:39am@Michael61 You sir are a fool.
Report Post »The kid was 100lbs LESS then the “Cuban”. He was walking back to a Family members home.. Get the facts before you speak… you may sound less like a idiot but I doubt it.
The 911 call is the kid screaming help you tool.
Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:46am@End whatever
Report Post »Your “boy” was 6-3 football player 17 years old and on suspension from school. So you sayin’ Zimmerman weighs 280#?
Michael61
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:47am@End
Happened the same day as Martin was killed.
http://www.yourjewishnews.com/Pages/17544.aspx
Couple married for 65 years killed during home invasion
Bunch of black teenagers dressed in hoodies breaked in, sexually attacked and killed an 85-year old woman, beaten a 90-year old man, stole their TV and their car, and left.
Why is it not a national news story? Why is it not a hate crime? Why don’t you care?
Walkabout
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:49amMy kids wear hoodies. They are comfortable & functional. A hoodie would raise your alert level 1 notch. If a person was wearing a hoodie in store/building it would raise your alert level way up. But Trayvon wasn’t in a building.
I don’t see a need for any shooting unless there was an active break in. Or he was being attacked?
Report Post »Cops wait for back up; a neighborhood watch person can’t wait for back up? Are they tougher?
jzs
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:51amSure. And women get raped because of the clothes they wear.
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:56am@walkabout
Report Post »Your kids wear hoodies- makes you proud -doanit!
Locked
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:58am@Michael
“Why is nobody talking about other facts? Like a short Cuban law-abiding citizen being attacked and beaten by 6′2” thug dressed in hoodie?”
You mean the Hispanic man who had 11 years and 100 pounds, not to mention a gun, against the teenager armed with Skittles? Oh, and that he followed the kid for several minutes, and ignored a dispatcher’s advice to wait for police or meet up with police.
“Cuban guy was covered in his own blood when police arrived?”
“His own blood?” Got a cite there, scotty? He had blood on him… that’s somewhat expected when you pick a fight, and especially when you SHOOT SOMEONE.
“There have been a few break-ins in their GATED COMMUNITY recently?”
… so racial profiling a black teenager is acceptable, and shooting him is ok? Come on now…
“Looks like a self-defense to me.”
Let a jury decide.
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:07am@End. I witnessed this a few years ago:
- Two black teenagers wearing hoodies attacked an elder Jewish woman in her own driveway, overpowered her, took her car keys and stole her car. Unfortunately, that was New York neighborhood, so I didn’t have a gun of course, and they got away. Just try to get a concealed carry permit here…
- Twenty (20) black teenagers wearing hoodies attacked a man in front of his appartment building without a reason. Thankfully, he had a black belt in karate, and we quickly came to save him, so he got only minor injuries.
When you see a bunch of black teenagers wearing hoodies, you better run.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:08amI’m 99% sure that Zimmerman saw an unfimilar young man dressed in typical gangster attire . He approached him asking what was his business in the neighborhood in typical black fashion the young man became irrate as if Zimmerman was being racist stepping up to Zimmerman not realizing that Zimmerman has a right to defend himself with deadly force
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:09amJust let this be a lesson. If you are an uneducated punk and likes to wear hoodies in warm weather,
people will NOT respect you, trust you, and you are more likely to get shot !!!!
If you think the Government owes you something, and if you think any entity other than the Government has destroyed your life, you are a moron.
Quit thinking RAP is cool. It Su@k$ !!!
Quit thinking Tattoos all over your body is “Da Bomb”. It looks like you got drunk and doodled on yourself with a Sharpie.
Quit wearing Pants around your thighs. It is THE MOST RIDICULOUS “fad” I have ever seen in my 47 years. It was derived in prison by “bottoms” that they were open for biz.
Big rims are not Impressive in the least. It just shows that you have no sense of priorities, and waste your money on the most ridiculous insignificant Cr@p.
You need to learn about the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.(The Loan)
The Holiday Banking Act of 1933 (the bankruptcy)
The Bretton Woods Agreement of 1944 (the transfer of the lien)
The creation of the United Nations in 1945 (The new creditor of the corp’s bankruptcy.)
The Bush E.O. #12803 – The Infrastructure Privatization Act (The Liquidation and foreclosure)
This will give you something productive to do, will garner more self respect and respect from others and you are least likely to get shot. ( from people other than the Corporation’s agents, for releasing information that threatens the “Corporate” Security.)
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:13am@Locked. It was reported somewhere that the Cuban had head injuries and blood on his face and hairs. His clothes were also dirthy and covered in grass. Unless he did it himself, he looked like he was attacked.
Do you really think that police would let him go free without charges otherwise? They believed he was attacked and it was self-defense.
Of course if it wasn’t self-defense in reality, he should go to jail, no questions.
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:24am@Locked.
I suppose you are white. Have you lived in a poor black neighborhood? like real ghetto? like real projects? Bet $1 gazillion you haven’t.
Well, I have.
J.martin
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:35amAll this talk about him looking like a thug just because he had a hoodie on. Im a female and i wear a hoodie everyday going to school. Does that make me a thug because i have a hoodie on. Or does it change because my boss gave us these hoodies with our company logo on. Yes i put my hoodie over my head when walking to class because i have a class at 7 30 am and it cold. He can’t say it was self defense due to the fact that he left his car. Im all for him following him and writing down what he has on where he is going BUT getting out the car WITH A GUN go up to him he no longer was fearing for his life. Just because he has been suspended does not mean he is a bad kid. I’ve been suspended im a bad person, no i have never gotten into trouble at all not once. I can really care less what skin color this child is, nobody has the right to gun down a child. No parent should out life their child. The fact is that people are just putting labels on everyone without knowing who the person is. I know first hand, Im 23 and look like a 16 year old one of my classmate thought just because young black(which she didn’t want to admit.lol) and she sits in the back she is going to have the worst attitude, But outof our little group im the peace makers. People just cant judge somehow how they look because most of the time you will end up looking like a fool
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:40am@Michael61
Well, I lived last year in a community where whites were the minority, but I wouldn’t describe it as “ghettos” (for one, it wasn’t urban). Was interesting to come home from work one day to see a SWAT team busting down my neighbor’s door. Found out later he was a big-time drug dealer. Who knew, right?
But personal anecdotes aside, I have no idea what your experiences have to do with justifying a self-appointed neighborhood watchman following, chasing down, confronting, fighting with, and shooting an unarmed teenager.
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:47amPeople dont kill people
Report Post »hoodies do
USAMEDIC3008
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:48amHowever people in uniforms
Report Post »do get shot at alot..
liberty4cross
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:57amSeveral years ago my urban friends told me that teenagers in their community were all dressing in a white tee-shirt and blue jeans because when someone committed a crime the police all points bulletin would go out for a male wearing a white tee-shirt and blue jeans and it would make it very difficult to find a suspect. I thought he was kidding until I went driving around with him at night in Atlanta and sure enough everybody was wearing the gangsta uniform. I usually don’t agree with Geraldo but I see his point based on my past observation.
Report Post »MAMMY_NUNN
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:59amHoodies are the apparel of choice for the Unabomber and most robberies.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:03pm@Walk
my kids where hoodies as well on cold days or rainy days. but they don’t have the hood constantly on and over their faces… they don’t have baggy pants down around their mid-thigh where you can see all of their butt hanging out… and their hoodie is also the correct size for their body and doesn’t extend down to cover said butt hanging out…
now that being said…i agree with Geraldo Rivera… your attitude, your dress, and how you carry yourself give people (rightly or wrongly) notions as to your intentions and they make judgement calls on those perceived intentions… we all do it and anyone that says otherwise is lying or a hypocrite.
did that mean the kid should be shot? NO!!!
did that mean the guy could chase him down and demand things of him? NO!!!
DON‘T CONFUSE the statement Geraldo made about how you dress and how society will judge you on that into meaning this boy deserved to be shot because he wasn’t dressed more “white” or “cuban” or whatever else way you perceive people should dress…
I fear no man or woman when I walk or am out in any neighborhood or public space…BUT my internal threat meter does increase when I see a person or group acting, dressing, and behaving a certain way… especially if they are around my HOME and my FAMILY. There is no FEAR or RACISM but healthy suspicion and concern.
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:11pm@Locked. Two points.
1. Looks like there was a struggle between two of them. Maybe George tried to stop and restrain Trayvon until police arrives, maybe Trayvon became agitated and attacked George (not knowing he had a gun). Police drug tested Trayvon because he was probably high…
Anyway, it looks like George got beaten and shot Trayvon in self-defense. He didn’t just kill him in cold blood.
2. About police and the neighborhood watch captain “acting stupidly”. Well, living next to a real bad ghetto neighborhood makes you very suspicious to young men wearing hoodies and behaving erratically. Of course it is profiling, but not just racial profiling. Race, age and sex are the three most important characteristics people use, but wearing hoodies and behaving erratically (probably being high on drugs) are the most important here.
Btw, wanna bet that some police officers arriving on the scene were BLACKS? Imagine that, black police officers are racially profiling all the time just like white or Asian or Jewish or whatever police officers.
Report Post »Big_Mike
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:25pm@Locked —-http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/022712-man-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation#ixzz1phFMGCu4
A man who witnessed part of the altercation contacted authorities.
“The guy on the bottom, who had a red sweater on, was yelling to me, ‘Help! Help!’ and I told him to stop, and I was calling 911,” said the witness, who asked to be identified only by his first name, John.
John said he locked his patio door, ran upstairs and heard at least one gun shot.
“And then, when I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on the top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point.”
If you are going to voice such a strongly held belief, it helps if you know what you’re talking about.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:46pmI get wanting your child to wear appropriate fitting clothes, but Im sure Geraldo rocked some bell bangers back in the day! He’s nowhere near the mark on this one!
Report Post »scruffycat
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:51pmI think I mentioned this about Hoodies yesterday. If you are out after dark you are immediately suspicious strike 1, if you are wearing a Hoodie you are doubly suspicious strike 2, and if its a dark grey or black hoodie then that is strike 3. Anybody out after dark are stopped and ID’ed. If you are wearing a hoodie you are put into the back of the squad car until they figure out what is going on. Thats how it is around here. Oh yeah, Midnight curfew for under 18 also.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:16pmMichael-
Report Post »The cuban followed the guy. The cuban harassed the kid, most likely called him something. If in fact he did get his rear kicked, he deserved it. Where is the pictures showing the his injuries sustained during the scuffle? Perhaps his face was covered in the blood of the kid his just shot. If some one followed me around the neighborhood like this guy did, I would have beat his a__ as well.
Obama_Sham
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:20pmI like wearing my fuchsia and lime green polka-dot hoodie…
Report Post »drago
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:35pm@end, mateytwo et al, aka encinom.
Report Post »Stfu you little puke,once again you cant pull your head out of your ass to tell the truth to save your soul.And do me a favor, please walk through my neighborhood wearing a hoodie……
Michael61
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:41pm@Locked. Do you think what I told about my experience were anecdotes? Well, another one.
Every day when the public school door opened at 3 PM or whatever, everybody living or working on the main streets would prepare for the stampede. Hundreds of crazy teenagers dressed in hoodies, of course, would fill the street. They would jump on top of parked cars, throw food and drinks, scratch cars with their keys, or write graffitis on them. One guy just took a baseball bat and broke every window in every parked car. Normal people would not dare to go out, and even police were nowhere to be found.
Do you like my anecdote? This is not a single accident, it has happened day after day after day.
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:47pmBtw, that public school had armed guards and metall detectors, which found a few guns and knives every day. They had the whole room full of confiscated weapons. School “children” were routinely handcuffed and police were called a few times every day to arrest especially unruly “children”.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:50pmgeraldo is either as dumb as they get or he is flippent about the fact that a young boy was hunted and and killed by a man with a gun. why was trey screaming prior to being shot/ wzimmerman called 911 as a cover for his intent to pursue and murder trey.he uses racist comments and though colol calm and collected gets perturbed at being told by the opertor where to meet the police. he desents from the operators instructuons as he has plans of his own i.e. to hunt down tray and kill him. Why we don’t know but this had nothing to do with an incident as the only incident that occurred was zimmerman hunting down trey and killing him.geraldo is as clueless as a skunk or in total denial.This had zero to do with trey’s wearing a hoodie.if geraldo mentioned womens attire who are raped he‘s wouldn’t have a show.
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:57pmBtw, I have utmost respect to a black businessman working on Wall street, or to a black computer programmer, or to a black math professor.
It probably took a lot of character to overcome the peer pressure, to get education, and to become successful.
Take Herman Cain for instance. If you missed it, every redneck in the South wanted him to become the selected Presidential candidate. 1000s of typical rednecks were driving around in Georgia and Tennessee in pickup trucks with the confederate flag in one window and the portrait of Herman Cain in another. 1000s of rednecks were volunteers for him in the South.
Who are the real racists? Democrats who instill in blacks feelings of inferiority and victimhood, or Conservatives who want those blacks to stand up, get education, become successful, and join the rest of Americans???
Report Post »Obama_Sham
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:26pm“I think they should keep the law the same and black men ought to arm themselves wearing dark hoodies and wait for a zimmerman type to approach them and blow their faces off.”
They already do…
Where you been? Planet Utopia?
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:40pmEveryone has an opinion but no one knows the facts yet. I’m not for or against either one but to automatically assume this is a vigilante race issue is not right. From what I heard, the young man was walking toward Zimmerman. How do we know he didn’t start something? Just because his girlfriend said what she did doesn’t mean she is telling the truth. Also it was stated there is alot of crime in the area. Yes the police said to stay away but if the kid was coming toward him, along with blood on Zimmerman, that would explain his self defense. All these people coming out and protesting before knowing what the real story is disgusting. Let the facts come out before passing judgement.
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:48pmI want to be the white man’s brother, not his brother-in-law. – Martin Luther King, Jr.
I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. – Martin Luther King, Jr.
Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love. – Martin Luther King, Jr.
Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal. – Martin Luther King, Jr.
Nonviolence means avoiding not only external physical violence but also internal violence of spirit. You not only refuse to shoot a man, but you refuse to hate him. – Martin Luther King, Jr.
That old law about ‘an eye for an eye’ leaves everybody blind. The time is always right to do the right thing. – Martin Luther King, Jr.
The ***** needs the white man to free him from his fears. The white man needs the N.e.g.r.o. to free him from his guilt. – Martin Luther King, Jr.
Report Post »Constantine Ivanov
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:10pmThere is a very sage Russian proverb: “greet him according to his clothes, take leave according to his wit.”
Report Post »Yes, it‘s true that it’s a person who makes the clothes, not the clothes make a person. But…
But what you wear is in many cases reflecting your mindset, your behavior, your nature.
A decent person would never wear saggy pants below his/her ass. So, if you see a person wearing such saggies, you already know that it is definitely not Yasha Heifets or Clint Eastwood but rather a robber?
toto
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:12pmWell, I finally agree with something Geraldo said. But he better watch out, speaking actual truths is verbotten in today’s press if it opposes radical left conventional thought. It’s the same kind of thing as hookers (and look alikes) not being responsible for being raped even though their dress and behavior is of the “bring it on” variety. Provocative behavior and/or dress, by some women or gang bangers, is no longer allowed to be considered a factor. Thank you, Gerardo, for a step back to sanity and reason. It doesn’t change the awfulness of the tragedy, but does shed some light. I am seeing a rush to judgement at this time. Blacks, led by the Sharpton types, are fully capable of a lynching mentality. Someone needs to also mention the two blacks kids that chased attacked a white boy with gasoline and fire, telling him he was white and deserved it, someone in the press, please ask Sharpton about this. No one, black or white should be more than equal, THAT breeds resentment, and is a terrible thing for our country.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:47pmAh so let me get this straight…. in the situation where a half glad woman gets sexually assaulted her clothing has no bearing. But a kid who gets shot by an individual who should probably not be allowed to carry a gun is less responsible because the kid was wearing a hoodie. Only someone associated with Fox News could come up with logic like this.
Report Post »SetUStrait
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:59pmMichael61 again you sound ridiculous.“republicans freed the slaves” cmon I know you think youre talking to the idiot fox news crowd that lets fox news urinate on them with lies, race baiting and hate mongering…Most people know that the current republican party was born from racism alone. The republican party employed the race based “southern strategy” to scare racist southern white Democrats into voting for them post slavery/civil rights era. Dumbass southern racist slave supporting, jim crow idiots fell for it and switched to the republican party. So since then the nasty racist republican party has been nasty and racist. Even to the point that the rnc chairman admitted it & apologized for their obvious republican idiocy. So your attempt to mislead like fox news, only works on those idiot hate filled fox drones. But admittedly fox does a great job because they’ve gotten their moronic fans to absolutely hate our Great President Barack Obama. But since you said conservatives love black people & want them to succeed, they should really love President Obama…right…?? He’s the most successful black man of all time & you hate him because he’s black?? But why.. taxes are lowest since 1950′s, more jobs created in 3yrs than 8yrs under bush, deficit is less than it was when he came in, killed osama bin laden, ended the iraq war etc…what’s to hate?? bush caused the recession, turned a surplus into a massive deficit, started a false war in iraq etc.. yet you love that foo
Report Post »SetUStrait
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:05pmHaha…Lol…obama_sham funny name. Cmon man you know what I mean….there are obviously not enough zimmermans getting their faces blown off by black men in hoodies. There’s still time….
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:06pm@Geraldo
I think your goofy mustache deserves a beating!
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:21pmHas Rivera apologized yet? He will.
Report Post »mlite9
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:23pmAha…a new victim class ventures forth from the mouth of the Grievance With A Mustache: pseudo-ghetto clothing. Federal grants are sure to follow.
Report Post »BlenGeck
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:33pmI’t just time for Geraldo to go. Stick a fork in him…he’s done.
Report Post »RabidPatriot
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:07pmThe Stand Your Ground law does not apply to a primary aggressor (so says the writer of the law), an unarmed teenager was executed, a hoodie had nothing to do with it, racists of all races are pointing fingers at each other, and Geraldo is still an idiot.
Report Post »eroman10
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:02pmIf you believe that, go to a job interview dressed with a hoodie and pants so low that your underwear shows. This is the real world; first impressions are lasting impressions.
Report Post »bba1950
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:31pmDid the boy live in the gated community? If not, how did he get there?
Report Post »Zenzazin
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:37pm@Michael61 – “When you see a bunch of black teenagers wearing hoodies, you better run.”
Report Post »Just like when you see a bunch of white people wearing white hoods?
denise55
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:01pm@EndtheGOPtea
Report Post »maybe YOU should take your own advice. That picture of Trayvon looks to be a few years old because he sure isn’t 17 in it. It’s a nice little trick to gain an edge of sympathy for the victim. I drove a cab for three years and have been robbed at gun point, shot once, every one of the shooters wore a black hoodie to cover their faces from the camera. Lets be serious here….I still think the shooter hunted the victim down like a dog and shot him, but agree with Geraldo on this one.
svanzev
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:39pmWatch the video interview of the person who owned the house/yard where it happened. He saw and told police through his sliding glass door he saw Treyvon attack Zimmerman. He saw Treyvon get on top of Zimmerman hitting him in the face and slamming his head into the pavement yelling “your going to die tonight”. It was actually Zimmerman heard on the 911 tapes calling for help as he saw “John” at the door. John went up stairs to call 911 and heard the shot. He then looked out and saw Treyvon on the ground dead. Police showed up saw mud all over Zimmermans back and injuries to Zimmerman consistent with both parties stories and decided it was self defense. It doesnt matter if Zimmerman disregarded the dispatchers telling him they didnt need him to follow. He stated he had lost Treyvon and was on his way back to the car to wait for police.
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:43pmI never knew that hoodies were so threatening…
My daughter wears a little pink hoodie. I wear a USC hoodie. My husband wears one. We don‘t put the hoods up unless they’re cold, and we don’t wear our pants half down; never realized they were scary though.
I sell hoodies, in fact. I never knew that my Pi day hoodie, my “I’ve got the Obama Blues” hoodie, my American flag hoodie, or my “Father Forgive them, for they know not what they do” hoodies made someone look like a gangster (especially that last one, because we know that everyone wearing Bible verses on them is a gangster, LOL).
Report Post »jcvillar
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 1:16amThe clothes make the man. It is what it is.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 1:49amFirst~The answers are on the 911 tapes. This wasn’t about hoodies. period.
Second~When you have to reach back decades or centuries to make a case that Republicans are not racist, you’ve already lost the argument. Clearly not all Repubs are racist, but you need to read no further than the comments on FoxNews.com, FoxNation, or in here to see that racism is rampant on the political “right.”
Report Post »lowlifekriminal
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 3:37amSo dress like young white kids or die is the point here right if it looks like nigg-er wear you could lose your life justifiably?
Report Post »lowlifekriminal
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 3:51am@michel61 if non-police officers try to detain you; will you peaceably be false imprisoned/kidnapped because it is his right to restrict your movements based on your choice of clothing maybe we should just have a list of clothes that black men wear that make you scared for your life so we could never take them off………. any man who approaches me and doesn’t show me a badge better not touch me and mine is registered and legal and never leaves my side not even when i sleep
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 8:37amWow. In stunning BREAKING NEWS focksnooze condones racial stereotyping. Whodathunkit….
Report Post »The1stDave
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 9:34amThat kid didn’t have time to be judged by his character. So then everything boils down to his clothing, his body language as he walked, and his race. Normally even all three wouldn’t be that big a deal, until you throw in the Rambo wannabe neighborhood watch guy. Then it is hard to say what clothing combinations could get you shot. Probably more than just what that kid was wearing, but I doubt the hoodie helped.
Report Post »Mark A. Sadowski
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:31amMichae61,
How do you know it was his own blood? Who just got shot in the chest?!? (Duh!!!)
Also Zimmerman is 5′9″ and 250 lbs. Based on his photographs I would run away no matter how tall I was.
And he is half Peruvian and half Jewish. I don’t know what diseased part of the Florida media is saying he is Cuban.
By the way. in most other states he would be in police custody right now pending an investigation given the fact that he just killed an unarmed 17 year old. but in Florida I guess this is standard practice. No wonder the murder rate is so high.
Report Post »PatsyTillman
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 9:52pmwearing a hoodie when it’s drizzling is not a crime,unless you are a person with a police record carrying a gun.In need of a to little to late witness for you & the police department no one can trust.Ask the 68yr old arrested on Friday because of making threats.
Report Post »alevanpa
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 12:43pm@Michael61 – “When you see a bunch of black teenagers wearing hoodies, you better run.”
Just like when you see a bunch of white people wearing white hoods?
ZENZAZIN: You got that exactly right!!!!
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:01pm@Locked. Innocent until found guilty?
Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-account-20120326_1_marijuana-report-press-conference-gated-community
Former NAACP leader accuses Sharpton and Jackson of ‘exploiting’ Trayvon Martin
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/#ixzz1qFvsqPbx
Report Post »American Mensch
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:26amIt is definitely unfair to blame this poor kid for his own murder by this self-appointed neighborhood “policeman”. He did not deserve to be shot simply because of the delusional thinking of this unstable man. I do agree, though that the way these boys dress today, and I am talking about white as well as black kids, does leave one with a negative impression. I am disgusted by this trend that has been only getting worse, where the lower you have your pants hanging around your ankles, the better you must look. I personally think these boys look like idiots, and it definitely does not give me a positive feeling toward the parents who would allow their children to dress like a gangster. George Zimmerman must be prosecuted if it is determined that he gunned down this child in the street for no other reason than his paranoid belief that this boy, armed only with candy and a soft drink, was a danger to him. We cannot have people stalking anyone they deem a threat and blowing them away. How this guy qualified for gun ownership is beyond me.
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:41am“Nationally, over the last 20 years between 10-15 black women are raped by white men per year. Over the same period of time, between 10,000 to 25,000 white women are raped by black men per year. Where is the outrage? Whis is CNN not reporting these crimes and stats?”
Black-on-white crime is 1000 to 1 comparing to white-on-black crime.
Besides, that Zimmerman guy is not even a white, he is a Cuban immigrant living in their GATED COMMUNITY being their neighborhood watch captain. There have been quite a few break-ins there recently, commited by black teenagers wearing hoodies.
Rings a bell?
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:18pmGeraldo: Go past many high schools in this country and you’ll see a big percentage of the boys wearing hoodies. I don’t like it, it looks stupid, but what do you do, outlaw hooded jackets? It does have a suspicious look, like trying to hide your identity, then I see several kids with acne so bad the hood gives them a sense of covering.
Report Post »God Bless the family of the young man walking, minding his own business, talking on the cell, eating the candy he want to store for and was accosted by an overzealous wannabe, looking for action.
Mil-Dot
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:46pmMichael
Report Post »I’ll tell you why they are not reported. Because those News Chicks live in wealthy neighborhoods and do not have to encounter or interact with them like the rest of society does. It is not their concern.
Mil-Dot
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:52pmBlacks are the most hate-filled racist group on the planet. Everybody knows it and that is why they are so despised. I work with some black guys and they openly tell me that they do not want to live with their own kind because they will break into your home and steal everything you have worked for. They flat out tell me they want to live in white neighborhoods.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:24am.
Report Post »The “Thug Lifestyle”, along with the Uneducated Black African Government Dependent America Hating Democrat Slave Population is what needs to be Rehabilitated…..And to the Black Americans who are stereotyped by the rest, I feel sorry for Ya’ll…….
Female
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:56amUneducated Black African Government Dependent America Hating Democrat Slave Population
“UBAG DAHD SP” interpretation: gangster for “You bagged a stupid person”
Sorry, no disrespect to the dearly departed. I hardily believe Zimmerman should have obeyed the instruction of the 911 operator and the watch program by backing off. I believe Zimmerman was totally wrong to put himself in danger and creat this environment of paranoia and then death. He should of let the police do their job!
That said, I couldn’t resist the joke!
Report Post »American Mensch
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:23amIt is definitely unfair to blame this poor kid for his own murder by this self-appointed neighborhood “policeman”. He did not deserve to be shot simply because of the delusional thinking of this unstable man. I do agree, though that the way these boys dress today, and I am talking about white as well as black kids, does leave one with a negative impression. I am disgusted by this trend that has been only getting worse, where the lower you have your pants hanging around your ankles, the better you must look. I personally think these boys look like idiots, and it definitely does not give me a positive feeling toward the parents who would allow their children to dress like a gangster. Trayvon Martin must be prosecuted if it is determined that he gunned down this child in the street for no other reason than his paranoid belief that this boy, armed only with candy and a soft drink, was a danger to him. We cannot have people stalking anyone they deem a threat and blowing them away. How this guy qualified for gun ownership is beyond me.
Report Post »American Mensch
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:27amSorry, I meant George Zimmerman, not Trayvon Williams.
Report Post »Redmanblackdog
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:22amGeraldo, is a *****. An idiot. I wish fox would get rid of him and Sheppard Smith.
I turn the channel any time I see his ugly mug! And I never watch Shepard Smith.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:42amI agree that Geraldo is a baffoon and a racist. However Shepard Smith won some points when he made these following statements during a not-so-typical Main Stream Media Report:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkx8Grgo0_s
blaze2453
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:22amHe is so right on this.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:19amI understand what geraldo is trying to say…If you dress the part expect to get treated like the part. Dress like a puupy you’ll probably get petted,dress like a ****** you’ll probably get propositioned, Dress like deer you might get shot….However wearing a hoodie is a far cry from say walking into a bank wearing a ski mask.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:20amI will wait until all facts are out. I”m for the rights of someone to protect themself. That withstanding if Zimmerman did follow this kid, it is aginst every thing taught in the Conceal Carry classes.
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:30amWell you know he followed the kid, he admitted to it on the 911 call.
You can’t chase someone down and then scream self-defense even if they then confront you. By chasing YOU become the one seeking confrontation.
Report Post »tommee
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:38am“wait until the facts are out”?? You think Zimmerman was defending himself against a teenage kid who is half his size and is armed with a bag of candy and a can of ice tea?
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:50am@Tommee
Report Post »No, I want to make my decision rioght now! Hang him Lyhnch the bastard! You know that CNN and MSNBC always verify FACTSbefore they go public! Nothing like reighteous indignation for an impeachable source. DIPSTICK!
Bluebonnet
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:49pmAJAYW. Right on. Anyone who takes a firearm class learns what you’re supposed to do. This man was told “ Stop following him” but he wanted some action and thought he’s make a Name for himself.
Report Post »Well, he’s done that alright, we’re all talking about him.
You cannot chase a person down and pull a guy on him without some defense back. My guess is this big guy fell down and hurt himself and was so angry he chased the kid down and shot him. Had he come after me with a gun, I’d have tried to fight him off with all my power. He could have been the criminal as far as this kid knew. Who chases after a person walking, with any good intentions?
Listen_then_think
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:19amSensationalized headline anyway. They know what Geraldo was saying and he is right but the blaze wants to make a shock story out of it.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:22amThank goodness Progressive Socialist, Geraldo Rivera, has the answer to our societal woes. Ban hoodies. That’s right, I said it. Ban them all.
If you ban hoodies, then we’ll end crime in America. We’ll also cut down on accidental shootings by 30%. Man, can Geraldo go straight to the heart of a matter, or what?
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:38amGeraldo the liberal douche trying to defend another hispanic by saying it was the hoodies fault and not the racist hispanic fault.
Report Post »The same Geraldo that blames Casey Anthony’s father becasue the woman that lied for months stating her hispanic babysitter stole Caley lied in court and had her lawyer insiuate that her father and brother molested her and her father told her to hide the body.
Yeah he’s a real mountain of knowledge and logic.
I’m 99% sure that Zimmerman saw an unfimilar young man dressed in typical gangster attire . He approached him asking what was his business in the neighborhood in typical black fashion the young man became irrate as if Zimmerman was being racist stepping up to Zimmerman not realizing that Zimmerman has a right to defend himself with deadly force. SAD STORY EVEN SADDER THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES ARE EVEN NECESSARY .
VoteBushIn12
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:38amA Progressive would absolutely not be for banning an article of clothing – don’t be ridiculous.
And calling Geraldo a progressive just further shows how absurd you blazers are. If someone doesn’t agree with your point of view they are automatically a liberal commie – even if they are ACTUALLY a conservative.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:07amUMBA55 WROTE, And calling Geraldo a progressive just further shows how absurd you blazers are. If someone doesn’t agree with your point of view they are automatically a liberal commie – even if they are ACTUALLY a conservative
Spin the wheel or buy a vowel because you don’t have a clue.
Report Post »If someone call for more government entitlements or government regulation control over the actions of free society thus elliminating personal choice ….THEY ARE COMMUNIST/COMMUNIST LIGHT(SOCIALIST)
The view point of most on the right is that personal choice should be left in the hands of the individual, if want salty foods,the run your lights 24/7,drive a hummer, own a thousands gun,listen to coservative talk radio…whatever.
It’s the right that pushing total goevrnment control (communism) it’s the left. And even if you don’t support all the ideologies of the left if you support the left your support what the core of the left is pushing…Pretty much total control over personal choices…..You are in fact communistic as you keepo these communist in power.
You know some germans supported Hitler because of what he did to recover Germany’s economic after WW1. Supporting Hitler for that reason mean they supported his genocide reguardless of how they truely felt about it.
The primary view
CobraBill
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:38pmGeraldo is not a conservative in any way, shape, or form. And to blame the hoodie the kid was wearing is just another dumb thing that came out of Geraldo’s mouth.
Report Post »Before everyone convicts Zimmerman, lets get all of the facts out. I highly doubt anyone here was there to witness what really happened.
A 17 year old kid is not a defenseless baby. Law or no law, you do have a right to defend yourself. That young man may of felt a threat having someone with a gun coming at him.
We just don’t know. Lets let the justice system work before we convict someone..
RJJinGadsden
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:14pmVOTEBUSHIN12, Geraldo does not even make it the heights of being a RINO. I remember this clown back before the days when he was present at the opening of Al Capone‘s supposed safe vault in the mid ’70s. He often claims to be moderately conservative, but has often voted Democrat and has admitted to having voted for 0bama. Frankly, I believe he is just pandering to what he believes is the mainstay of Fox’s audience. But, he is obviously anything but conservative.
Report Post »So, considering that you are a progressive, you would not like to ban such clothing as white robes with hoodies known as the KKK uniform, T shirts, and other clothing with the NAZI version of the swastika, and so forth?
VoteBushIn12
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:01pm@RJJINGADSDEN
Correct, I am not for banning any form of clothing. I’m not for the KKK, Nazis, or any other discriminatory organization you referenced, but I’m not so childish so as to believe that limiting their choice of dress somehow dictates their frame of mind.
In other words, a dog dressed in a suit is still a dog.
Report Post »FN-FEDUP
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:18amhttp://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03-04/news/31122324_1_white-boy-fire-tv-station
Teens set kid on fire for being ‘white boy’
Report Post »Listen_then_think
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:17am“You have to recognize that this whole stylizing yourself as a gangster– you’re going to be a gangster want-to-be. Well, people are going to perceive you as a menace, that’s what happens.”
The hispanic guy who did the killing is 100% wrong and 100% crazy and should not have done what he did. I would have just stayed away but made sure he wasn‘t doing anything he shouldn’t. I never would have approached him.
Geraldo is correct. Many American blacks and whites and asians and hispanics etc. have patterned themselves after gangsters/convicts in their tats, their language or lack thereof, their low rider pants, their signs etc. Hey, if you don’t want to be associated with the devil, don’t look, talk and act like the devil. Avoid the very appearance of evil.
You can‘t blame all whiteys’ for the actions of one crazy hispanic guy. But the left (american blacks) is doing just that. Fact or false, rational or not the American black community is blaming all whites for the actions of one hispanic guy. That is why all other Americans don’t trust many American Blacks, American blacks function on whatever their lying “icons” tell them and operate on mob mentality. If they would individually find out the truth and work off of facts, and rationally put blame where blame is due, the stereotype would change and the rest of Americans would not fear american blacks the way they do. American blacks own the lions share of crime with hispanics catching up fast.
Report Post »IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:13amHogwash. The boy was shot by another human being. He was told not to follow the boy and he did anyway so he does have more questions to answer. To blame this on race or hoodie shows how unintelligent Geraldo really is sometimes. Let justice work.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:17amWhereas Zimmerman was in the wrong, society will judge you by your appearance.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:18amI am an old white guy, I wear hoodies all the time. Geraldo is a friggin liberal idiot.
Report Post »But if I wore my pants where my underwear was showing I would be shot…by my wife.
IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:31amGood one, Bad gave me a good laugh.
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:43amBot? BOY? a17 years old, 6-3 football player on suspension from school, late night, rainy.
Report Post »SureYaDo
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:49amlaughed out loud at that one baddoggy, and fyi, 41yoWM here and i wear hoodies all the time too
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:01pmI agree, IMCHRISTIAN.
Scary how so many seem to want to take this into their own hands and NOT allow justice to work.
Arm-chair judges everywhere. Guess some were there watching the entire incident happen! Amazing how they know and have ALL the facts.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:07amThis whole thing is being politicized and blown out of proportion by Sharpton, CNN, MSNBC, Idiots like Roland Martin and Louis Farrakhan etc. All these demonstrations all over the country – where were these fools when OJ Simpson walked after butchering two innocent people??? Blecks are a bunch of hypocrites when they use tragedies like this to further their thread worn narrative that they are all innocent vistims of evry other race. I’m so sick and tired of this hogwash.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:14amBlecks = blacks
Report Post »THE_END_IS_NEAR
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:28amYou fail to acknowledge the murder of an innocent person. Shame on you!
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:33amBecneeds to get the facts about this shooting. There are police reports that Zimmerman was on the ground, on his back with this 6′2″ kid punching his face while Zimmerman was screaming for help. The father of Trayvon Martin told police the voice screaming for help was not his son. Also, have you noticed how the MSM only shows pohots of Trayvon when he was 12 years old”? Also, did you see Zoraida what’s her name on CNN this AM lapping up every propaganda statement some social rabble rouser from Sanford FL was saying? She already has her mind made up. This George Zimmerman is getting lynched by the MSM, idiot protesters and frauds like Sharpton, Farakhan etc. This situation is spinning out of control and the facts are being ignored.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:38amSays who?
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:51am“There are police reports that Zimmerman was on the ground, on his back with this 6′2″ kid punching his face while Zimmerman was screaming for help. The father of Trayvon Martin told police the voice screaming for help was not his son.”
Let’s refresh your “facts” on this.
The police report does indeed have a witness saying a guy in red was on the ground. Of course, that same witness reports that the police mixed it up; it was Zimmerman in red standing above the other guy. Sounds like the police messed it up… especially since by the time any witnesses who could see the two got there, Martin was shot and on the ground. No one actually saw the shooting, though several heard it (and the screaming).
Zimmerman had 11 years and 100 pounds on Martin; not to mention he followed him for several minutes. Honestly, if Zimmerman picked a fight (and by all accounts it seems he did), I don’t feel too sorry that he got his ass kicked.
“The father of Trayvon Martin told police the voice screaming for help was not his son.”
Report Post »I’ve found this on one site, with no backup. On the other hand, we have agreement from both their parents on tape saying, yes, it was their son screaming for help before being shot.
http://sandrarose.com/2012/03/rayvon-martins-parents-eyewitnesses-discuss-case-on-anderson/
hatchetjob
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:56amAnonymouse, down below you mention that the news is showing young pics of Trayvon, that is interesting. I thought he looked very young in the pics. Thanks for the tidbits.
Report Post »EndTheGOPTEA
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:35pmIdiots.. The “Football” Pic was taken weeks before his death.. He is a Child.. Looked like one.. was NOT 100lbs more than his killer, WAS screaming for help, BOTH parent agree..
Report Post »YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
lowlifekriminal
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 5:00amyou do realize he was not arrested there was to be no investigation they took his word for it and were done with the case not even cuffed with a dead body at his feet this seems acceptable to you that a MINOR child can lose his life and no process to discover the truth is taken by local law enforcement
Report Post »BubbaT
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:06amThis entire event smells to high heaven. Guarantee the DoJ has something to do with it.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:04amFace it.. A guy hiding his face in a hoodie, walking around in circles in the rain doing whatever in an area suffering crime IS a little suspicious. Without the hoodie he wouldn’t look as suspicious. One smart mouth comment or threatening move and he’s on his own.
Report Post »Cops shoot people for less all the time. If a gun gets pointed at me i don‘t start yelling ’i‘m sorry’ not ‘help, help, help into the night’ and worry about the rest later. I’m no fan of jeraldo but he is making a true statement.
Can anyone answer what this kid was doing there? And don’t say taking a stroll in the rain..
jemimah
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:10amObjective, verifiable facts show the decedent was on the phone, had been to the store where he bought candy and tea and was unarmed. The pivotal questions are why did Zimmerman ignore the 911 operator’s command and get out of his car and follow the decedent? Zimmerman’s assertions are self-serving while it was reasonable for the decedent to have been alarmed by Zimmerman’s actions.
Report Post »BostonHarold
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 11:19pmOn every security camera photo of a suspect in a hold-up their face is concealed by a large floppy hood so they can‘t be ID’d. I agree with Geraldo on this one point. Nobody deserves to die like a dog in the rain like poor Trayvon. A horrible tragedy. I’m sure he had no idea that the menacing weirdo following him was the self-anointed neighborhood ‘watchman’. My heart goes out to the grieving Martin family.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:01amHeraldo has a point, look like a punk, ya get treated like a punk. Same thing I taught my son.
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:59amyes geraldo the hoodie is the reason for our society,s ill,s…indeed…and since you love tooting your our horn on what a great father ,husband,lawyer,cad,and sailboat pilot you are…why does your own son cruz wear that hideous garment?….looks like bill orielly is going to school your arse once again..lol
Report Post »christopherestep
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:56amI’m waiting for his statement saying that feminine clothes and women are responsible for rapes.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:12amIf you‘re wearing red in cripps territory you won’t get far,same concept here,Zimmerman the wanna be cop saw a kid wearing a hoodie and assumed he was a hood,result is a dead kid.Zimmerman will get a fair trial and we’ll see what happens,if Martin wasn‘t armed Zimmerman’s doing a long stretch in the pen.
Report Post »BlackCrow
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:51amThis thug was on top of Mr. Zimmerman beating him when Zimmerman shot him. There are witnesses and evidence to this fact that are being IGNORED! If you are going to live the thug life then don‘t be surprised when it ends in violence and don’t blame the guy who was defending himself.
Me smells lawsuit.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:57amI had not heard that part of the story. Not surprising……..
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:06amBecause it never happened, from all reports. The police report claims that a witness said it; the same witness has come out and said the police changed what he said, that Martin had been on the ground and Zimmerman over him. As these are the same police who called Zimmerman white, called a narcotics investigator to the scene and not a homicide unit, and who drug tested Martin and NOT Zimmerman… well, their track record isn’t so great right now. I‘m going with the witness’s account.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:11amI heard that early on and that Zimmerman’s face was bloodied when the cops arrived. It has been lost in the cacophony of racial injustice though. None of us know what went down. Investigate and if Zimmerman is guity, make him pay the price.
Report Post »JoeInAlbany
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:12amPlease provide a link to ANY reliable news organization that can back up your assertion.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:25amAccording to all accounts I’ve read, Zimmerman approached the teenager. If you get your a$$ kicked for that, it’s on you. Lethal force can’t be used to defend an a$$ kickin.
Report Post »Mapache
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:32amAnd zimmerman deserved to get his ass kicked going around being mr policeman. He called the cops and that should have been the end of it. Even in professional law enforcement, the plainclothes guys always give way to the uniformed for safety sake. The victim had no way of knowing that this white/hispanic kid who was armed might have been out to rob him!
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:47am“I think the hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin’s death as George Zimmerman was”
Someone’s choice of clothing does NOT share equivalent responsibility with a person who hurts them. Rivera just made the equivalent argument of saying a girl who gets raped was just as responsible as her rapist because she was wearing a miniskirt.
You want to make an argument for wearing trashy clothing makes you less respectable and people make assumptions about you? Sure, go for it; I completely agree. To say it shares equal responsibility with someone who uses a gun to shoot you? Ludicrous. Good Lord, this man is an idiot.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:55amI don’t know. If Treyvon had been wearing slacks, shirt and tie, would he have still been shot? It’s worth asking. Or if he were white and dressed all thugged out, would he have been shot? I‘m concealed carry and I know this guy didn’t follow the gun laws so I’m not justifying the shooting at all. But, it’s a fair question.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:03am“If Treyvon had been wearing slacks, shirt and tie, would he have still been shot?”
Clothing is no justification for shooting; I‘m honestly amazed you’re even making the argument. “If the girl hadn’t been wearing a miniskirt, would she have been raped?” Why should a piece of clothing be justification?
Report Post »9111315
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:44amClothing and attitude.
“Yes sir, No sir. My name is Trayvon Martin. I’m visiting my grand parents, Mr. and Mrs Traywhatever, over on Elm street.”
I’m sure that is what a disrespected young black man said. Oh, and who hit who first? I also thought Trayvon was 17. Looks like an older younger picture.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:43am“I think the hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin’s death as George Zimmerman was.”
Report Post »Yea Geraldo, I wouldn’t take it that far. You do have a point though. If you disagree, take an evening stroll through Harlem wearing Klan robes…you won’t get far.
HKS
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:06amThis point does have merit, although all things that look like ducks are not ducks, 99 percent of them end up that way. So by the numbers a correct assessment was made. Maybe both parties should have been more diligent about what was transpiring.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:42amDoes Geraldo know something that hasnt been released?
“He wore an outfit that allowed someone to respond in this irrational, overzealous way, and if he’d been dressed more appropriately–,” he added before saying hoodies should be left for rainy days and track meets.
If Zimmerman acted in self defense then he didnt act in a “irrational,overzealous way”. It wouldnt have matter if the guy was in tux or a banana hammock if the guy attacked him, he had a right to protect himself.
Report Post »Watchyer6
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:50amSelf defense? The kid was just walking down the street, armed with nothing more than a bag of Skittles. Zimmerman, the overzealous cop wannabe, went after him.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:11amWell according to the reports, the 6″2 football player was punching Zimmerman and had him on the ground. So yes self defense.
Report Post »lowlifekriminal
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 4:12amthe self defense only works for the murdered boy he did not initiate contact …..look the law is simple if your actions lead to a death you are responsible he left the car and confronted the CHILD if he was physically incapable of restraining someone he had no business detaining he is not defending himself he is an idiot he wasn’t beaten in his car where the POLICE told him to stay no they were in a backyard how did they get there from one in a car and another on a sidewalk self defense my culo premeditated murder is more like it ……… i can hear his mind now he‘s gonna do what i tell him or i’m gonna blow his nigg-er head off
Report Post »Griffin06
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:42amIf I walk down the street in my uniform, people will assume I’m a Soldier. If I walk down a street wearing scrubs and a stethescope, people will assume I’m a doctor. If you walk down the street dressed like a thug, people are right in assuming you are a thug. What you wear reflects the image you are trying to project. So don’t get ticked off when people treat you accordingly. Yes, this idiot in Florida overstepped his bounds, and I hope this matter is investigated thoroughly, and based on everything I’ve seen, he probably needs to be prosecuted for either 2nd degree murder or manslaughter. Still, Geraldo has a point. Proof that even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:12ami also live in florida and have my carry at all times and i feel this guy went beyond the stand your ground law……..the kid was on the phone and put his hoodie on to be more threatening……………instead of saying i am here with my friend in unit or house so and so………
Report Post »lowlifekriminal
Posted on March 24, 2012 at 4:03amthe real problem is that anything that black youth collectively gravitate towards is considered thug wear are we really to believe that young white kids are angels. As a matter of fact white kids dress exactly like thugs and gangsters but then again they live in a free country and that is their right i guess blacks just need to go back where they came from or stop feeling like they are entitled to wear what they want and walk the streets where good god-fearing christian white folks are raising their families
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:39amUh oh, Geraldo just insulted his messiah’s radicals – I have a feeling that he will be getting a little call from obama’s propaganda team shortly.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:39amhell must have frozen over because I actually am agreeing with geraldo on something! hey neighborhood watch captains don’t go chasing folks down and firing without knowing they are armed an dangerous. it is basic gun 101 know your target. parents keep your kids in at night not wandering the streets even if it is innocent give them a ride. stay away from the appearance of evil. prayers to the family
Report Post »Wilma
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:56amI agree with Geraldo 100%. We shouldn’t just a book by its cover, but we do.
Report Post »BenInNY
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:38amGeraldo reinforces my opinion of him every time he opens his mouth.
Report Post »rationallyurs
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:16amhoodrat
Report Post »XdemXrepub
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:37amYou don‘t suppose Geraldo’s similar hereditary lineage affected his need to find additional places to find fault, to mitigate the shooter’s fault?
Report Post »Windwalker
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:57amYa think?
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:32amYou don‘t suppose Geraldo’s similar hereditary lineage affected his need to find additional places to find fault, to mitigate the shooter’s fault
Without a doubt when Geraldo found out Zimmerman was hispanic he had to find an alternative to counter racist hispanic even if only in his mind.
Report Post »XdemXrepub
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:55am@Smithclar3nc3
Report Post »actually the similarity of ancestry is not only hispanic. According to news reports the shooter is part jewish and part hispanic as is Geraldo