‘Ain’t No Homos Gonna Make It to Heaven’: Young Child Allegedly Singing Anti-Gay Church Song Sparks National Controversy
- Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:28pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Pint-sized preachers have been known to captivate headlines, as The Blaze has highlighted before. There’s just something about small children reciting the gospel message with fervency that captivates attention. But a video of a young boy allegedly belting out anti-gay messages at an Indiana church is creating a very different reaction — one of surprise, even disgust.
It seems the nation may have another church controversy to focus on, following outrage after Pastor Charles L. Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church spoke earlier this month about putting gays in an electrified fence. Gawker has more about the newest purported anti-gay video that is making its rounds:
A place of worship identified as the Apostolic Truth Tabernacle in Greensburg, Indiana, is getting some much needed attention this morning after a video of a young congregant singing “Ain’t No Homos Gonna Make It to Heaven” began making the rounds late yesterday.
What makes this particular demonstration of intolerance so shocking is just how young this congregant is. Believing him to be no older than five, some are calling the church’s treatment of the boy out-and-out child abuse.
After the child sings that homosexuals won’t be going to heaven, the video shows the crowd cheering and applauding. A male voice can be heard yelling, “That’s my boy.” The overall reaction, it seems, was one of support for the messaging and encouragement for a small child that critics believe was too young to truly understand what he was singing. Care2.com provides the lyrics to the song:
“The Bible’s right, somebody’s wrong.
The Bible’s right, somebody’s wrong.
Romans one, twenty six and twenty seven;
Ain’t no homos gonna make it to Heaven.”
The Huffington Post provides more regarding the reaction from gay and lesbian bloggers and their supporters:
A number of high profile lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) bloggers and allies have re-posted the video, including Towleroad and Joe. My. God. All have noted that the child was undoubtedly coached by adults for his performance.
“Interview with a Vampire” author Anne Rice also posted the video to her Facebook page, noting, “In this country, Christians can teach toddlers to hate and to persecute, and we, through the automatic tax exemption for churches, foot the bill.”
Watch the video, below:
(H/T: Gawker)
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Comments (408)
Meyvn
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:06pmIt’s real damn simple. No one can EARN there way to heaven. Homosexuality is a judgement of God on our nations because we deny him as Creator. It’s plainly stated in the Bible. Not too difficult to understand.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:22pmHowever, we should not let sin continually reign in our bodies. We only have POWER over sin by insisting what God says is true. There are 3 tenses of being saved:
Been Saved (past tense): Believers are ALREADY saved from the PENALTY of sin (death) through His sacrifice, His grace, and our faith. Nothing else.
Being saved (present tense): Believers are BEING saved from the POWER of sin (operationally, by the Holy Spirit, sent by Him, moment by moment, day to day). We can and will fall. The Law is there to remind us of our sin.
Shall be saved (future tense): Believers SHALL be saved from the PRESENCE of sin.
Again… all through His sacrifice, His grace, and our faith. Nothing else.
Study Romans.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:45pm@Meyvn
“Homosexuality is a judgement of God on our nations because we deny him as Creator.”
He is displeased so he made the nations FABULOUS?
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:51pm“Being saved (present tense):”
Isn’t this present progressive, not simply present? “I save” or “He saves” would be simply present.
Anyway, not too relevant to the topic at hand. I honestly don’t see what the commotion is about. If:
1. People maintain they don’t wish to dictate the faith of others, and
2. The boy is simply dictating the he is being raised in, and further more,
3. He is not calling for violence or threatening anyone, then
… who cares? There are plenty of things in other faiths we might not agree with, even within the same Christian denominations. If one sect says “Gays cannot go to heaven” and another says “gays are sinners like everyone else, and only need to repent,” and both use the same verses from Romans, who is to say which one is right? Both are interpretation of the text based upon faith.
The people calling this child abuse are fools and big-government busybodies. So long as this church isn’t teaching the kid to hate gays or attack them, I don’t feel their criticism is warranted (even if I disagree with this church’s views).
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:54pm@encinom: His creation precedes His displeasure.
Report Post »ICEDRAGONNITE
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:54pmDoes Sodom and Gomorrah ring a really big bell? Say what you will Homosexuals are not productive citizens which the Constitution requires to be a good citizen. This behavior has been brought up in past cases before the Supreme Court and Sodomy and Bestiality has been outlawed for years. So sorry but that’s life.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:58pmNote, the second point should have been “the faith he is being raised in.”
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:11pm@Iced
“Homosexuals are not productive citizens which the Constitution requires to be a good citizen.”
False. Being a homosexual in no way makes you a bad citizen. Being gay is not illegal, nor does it preclude productivity (or even reproductivity, thanks to adoption, implantation, and birth mothers/sperm donors).
“This behavior has been brought up in past cases before the Supreme Court and Sodomy and Bestiality has been outlawed for years.”
Actually, the SCotUS has repeatedly struck down anti-sodomy laws, including those both in the states and in the military. Bestiality has absolutely nothing to do with the topic.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:30pm“Bestiality has absolutely nothing to do with the topic.”
Beg to differ. Both are developmental aberrations. Zoosexuals and homosexuals have developed abnormal sexual attractions… and there are others, as you must know.
Report Post »PreachermanMatt
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:31pmA pastor’s apology…
http://matthewstevens.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/an-pastors-open-apology-to-homosexuals/
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:35pm@The_Jerk
“Beg to differ. Both are developmental aberrations.”
And the article is about one particular aberration, not all of them. As said: nothing to do with the topic. It’s a blatant attempt to equate homosexuality to bestiality; a strawman at best.
Report Post »jeffersonian1776
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:53pmThe video is not the thing I’m upset about—what I am upset about is you all bunch of self righteous do-gooders who clame to be pure and holy. Not only that, but for all you who spread lies to try and get something ficticious into others’ heads based on how you think the world is.
Report Post »AND, YES I“M TALKING TO YOU ”ICEDRAGONNITE”–
you said, “Homosexuals are not productive citizens which the Constitution requires to be a good citizen. This behavior has been brought up in past cases before the Supreme Court and Sodomy and Bestiality has been outlawed for years. So sorry but that’s life.”
Really? So since when the hell did the begin defining what a “productive citizen” is? Does it define what is considered “homosexual criminality?“ The SCOTUS has never ever ”outlawed for years“ what they consider to be ”homosexual criminality.” YOU LIE!!!–THEREFORE, YOU ARE A SINNER!!! YOU SHOULD REPENT FOR YOUR LIES, unless if you tell lies that help spread your version of GOD’S LAWS, then it’s all fine and dandy, right? Wait, doesn‘t that smell of Simpson’s Paradox: that, it‘s okay to lie to spread God’s Laws that say lying is a SIN.
Another thing? Since when did you all start believing in the “FREEDOM OF SPEECH?” I can remember many times and examples where y’all made it look (to an outsider) like the Freedom of Speech is the scurge of mankind! Do you know how many ministers/preachers despised the “devil” Thomas Jefferson in the 1700-1800s, y’all be right wi
YesARealCommie
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:55pmGod doesn’t exist.
Report Post »term limits for congress
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:57pmI feel sorry for the little boy and the other children in this cult.
Heaven is either going to be crowded or sparsely populated, depending on whose religious beliefs are being applied. Religion is man-made and is therefore inherently flawed. If not, the world would have one religion. Christians can’t even agree on a single variety of Christianity (yes, other religions have the same issue). So, I go with the “golden rulel” thing and try not to be too judgemental or overly hateful.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:20pmOur preacher(COC) gave a lesson and called it Q_ueer not Gay after Obama came out of the closet. The article mentions Romans 1 ver 26-27. You really need to read thru ver 32. By the judgement of God they that commit such things are worthy of death. Muslim read this in the Koran that they are to be beheaded or stoned to death.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:20pmPolitically incorrect truth: No sinner makes it to heaven.
Will gays be in heaven? My understanding of the tenets of the Faith (Admit that you’re a sinner, Believe Jesus died on the cross for your sinse, Confess the sins to God and ask forgiveness) doesn’t square with 1 Corinthians 6, which explicitly says that (among others) homosexual offenders shall not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
I figure it’s not my call. All I can do is make sure I keep with Leviticus 19:17, rebuke my brother‘s sin so that I don’t share in it, and hopefully help him to understand that he is a sinner and in need of God. I figure God will sort us all out eventually, anyway. I’ll leave the whole “do you get to go to heaven” question up to the One who makes that decision.
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:22pmPREACHERMANMATT: That was very good…it about brought me to tears.
It’s all so true, especially this:
“We speak of homosexuality as destroying the “family” ( and I believe it does), but we ignore (in comparison) heterosexual pornography, divorce, adultery, and fornication.
For the double standard of our sexual sin- I apologize”.
Report Post »formidable_foe
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:36pm@YESAREALCOMMIE,
“God doesn’t exist.”
Nor does the value of your stupid opinions or obviously, your ability to reason.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:41pm@leftfighter. Do you keep ALL of Leviticus? Or just the parts you like?
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:45pmLocked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:11pm
@Iced
“Homosexuals are not productive citizens which the Constitution requires to be a good citizen.”
“False. Being a homosexual in no way makes you a bad citizen.”
Not a bad citizen?
That spin won’t work, old guy.
Homosexuals are about the worst citizens in this country.
They’re responsible for spreading aids, syphillis, TB, and parasitic diseases throughout our communities, and they continue to flaunt their irresponsibility no matter how much harm they know they have caused.
That’s not being good citizens. If you think so, it‘s because you’re delusional as well as having a mental problem with gender identification, which manifests itself in various mental disorders.
http://home60515.com/4.html
“Actually, the SCotUS has repeatedly struck down anti-sodomy laws, including those both in the states and in the military.”
Yes, but only due to political pressure, disregarding entirely the safety of the community at large. And, due to that, anti-bestiality laws and polygamy have a chance at acceptance.
The empire continues to degenerate, but it won’t last forever. The cracks are beginning to show and a looming financial disaster is on the horizon, ready to envelope the entire globe with its eruption, which will hammer those like you back into your holes or face the consequences of your evil doing.
Your days are numbered.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:46pm@Formidable_Foe
“Nor does the value of your stupid opinions or obviously, your ability to reason.”
Neither of your contentions are applicable. One’s opinions can hold just as much (or little) value as those of a believer, and reasoning has nothing at all to do with religious belief. What IS hypocritical is the outrage if one does not believe in God. If Heaven doesn’t exist, why care if a small child is preaching his belief on who gets to go there? It makes no sense.
Report Post »jblaze
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:52pmgirlnurse
Report Post »Exactly right. Homosexuality is one sin. There are many that destroy the family as God created it (One man and one Wife). However, adultery is equal to the sin of homosexuality and destroys many families. And so on….and so on…..none are excused in God’s eyes except you repent and sin no more.
Independent4233
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:54pmLocked:
“The people calling this child abuse are fools and big-government busybodies. So long as this church isn’t teaching the kid to hate gays or attack them, I don’t feel their criticism is warranted (even if I disagree with this church’s views).”
Nobody has to “teach” any child to hate homosexuals. Embeded in his psyche is a disgust against anything that threatens the perpetuation of his species, and he’ll grow up, as we all have, to regard the degenerative mental disease known as homosexuality to be repugnant and a danger to the survival of humankind.
Hate doesn’t even enter into it.
And attacking homosexuals? Don’t force acceptance of your perversions on us, keep to yourselves and out of our faces, and I would bet that most of us will leave you alone.
If you don’t, all bets are off.
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:01pm@ Independent4233 – Heterosexuals spread the same diseases. So what’s your point?
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:03pm@Independent
“They’re responsible for spreading aids, syphillis, TB, and parasitic diseases throughout our communities, and they continue to flaunt their irresponsibility no matter how much harm they know they have caused.”
If gays only sleep with each other, how on earth do you think they’re spreading these diseases throughout “our” communities? Please, stop and think before posting. It’ll save yourself, and us, a lot of trouble.
“Yes, but only due to political pressure, disregarding entirely the safety of the community at large. And, due to that, anti-bestiality laws and polygamy have a chance at acceptance.”
ANY legal change is due to pressure. Whether you personally consider them good or bad is your personal opinion – not fact. The fact is, anti-sodomy laws are struck down as unconstitutional in our country. If you think that will lead to bestiality, I recommend looking up the slippery slope fallacy.
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:16pmholy ghostbuster
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:01pm
“@ Independent4233 – Heterosexuals spread the same diseases. So what’s your point?”
Those diseasesare RAMPANT among homosexuals.
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1
http://home60515.com/4.html
” 1) 80% of syphilitic patients are homosexual; 2) about one-third of homosexuals are infected with active anorectal herpes simplex viruses; 3) chlamydia infects 15% of homosexuals; and 4) “a host of parasites, bacterial, viral, and protozoan are all rampant in the homosexual population.”3
Another study found that: 1) amoebiasis, a parasitic disease, afflicts around 32% of homosexuals; 2) giardiasis, also a parasitic disease, afflicts 14% of homosexuals (no heterosexuals in the study were found to have either amoebiasis or giardiasis); 3) gonorrhea afflicts 14% of homosexuals; and 4) 11% of homosexuals had anal warts.4
Another study found that anorectal sepsis, a potentially toxic bacterial infection, is 4 times more common in homosexual than heterosexual men.5
According to another study, the “prevalence of EBV type 2 [the Epstein-Barr type 2 virus] among homosexual men was significantly higher than it was among heterosexual men (39% vs. 6%).”6 (That virus causes infectious mononucleosis and is associated with two types of cancer: Burkitt’s lymphoma and nasopharyngeal carcinoma.)
And other studies have found abnormally high rates of hepatitis B infection,7 hepatitis A infection,8 “
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:31pmLocked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:03pm
@Independent
Thanks for giving me a chance to further elaborate. I have much more.
Independent: “They’re responsible for spreading aids, syphillis, TB, and parasitic diseases throughout our communities, and they continue to flaunt their irresponsibility no matter how much harm they know they have caused.”
Locked: “If gays only sleep with each other, how on earth do you think they’re spreading these diseases throughout “our” communities?
Aids, TB, parasitic disease and even herpes can be spread via inanimate objects. And many STD’s are spread by homosexuals who are bi-sexual or at least occassionally have sex with women. And, it is a fact homosexuals have incredibly high rates of non-protected sex.
http://home60515.com/4.html
2) “Sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) occur in sexually active gay men at a high rate. This includes…syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, pubic lice,…Hepatitis A, B, or C virus, Human Papilloma Virus, etc.”
Homosexuals are spreading deadly drug-resistant bacteria
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/01/homosexuals_are.html
“Please, stop and think before posting. It’ll save yourself, and us, a lot of trouble.”
Oh, it won’t save me any time or trouble. I can dash out an entire essay while you’re still struggling over one paragraph.
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:56pmLOCKED:
“ANY legal change is due to pressure. Whether you personally consider them good or bad is your personal opinion – not fact.”
That’s false. MOST legal decisions are the result of whether the issue in question fits the specific parameters of a particular law or right as defined by statute or the Constitution, except in certain instances where errors are made, which would include sodomy as a right.
Setting such a precedent….if it stands…. opens the legal door for other perversions, like bestiality. Allowing homosexual marriages opens the legal door for other interpretations of marriage like polygamy.
“The fact is, anti-sodomy laws are struck down as unconstitutional in our country. If you think that will lead to bestiality, I recommend looking up the slippery slope fallacy.”
Why? The concept doesn’t apply.
Report Post »survivorseed
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 6:47pmSo public schools teaching tolerance of homosexuals to children is indoctrinating and evil but church’s teaching kids to hate homosexuals is just peachy. OK, I’m starting to see where you people are coming from.
Report Post »Azzman
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:00pm@locked – queers and dog dooers are one in the same. They are sick puppies.
Report Post »formidable_foe
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:05pm@Locked
I don’t believe I was speaking to YOU. My comments were quite applicable to the Commie I was speaking to, and they weren’t in reference to any church or pint-sized “homophobe” (as I’m sure you like to call them). By the way, I disagree with your assertion that reason has nothing at all to do with religious belief. You should maybe rethink that statement. In forming my religious beliefs, I believe I have applied a healthy dose of reason and logic when analyzing the information I have been given throughout my life. I’m sure you would say the same, i.e., that you have applied reason and logic to conclude what you conclude about your religious beliefs (or lack thereof). I simply conclude that if you lack faith in God or a higher power than mankind, the level of your reasoning ablility is suspect. ;)
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:34pmsurvivorseed
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 6:47pm
“So public schools teaching tolerance of homosexuals to children is indoctrinating and evil but church’s teaching kids to hate homosexuals is just peachy. OK, I’m starting to see where you people are coming from.”
Good. Just make sure you don’t forget it.
Because it’s all downhill from here.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:54pmLeave it to someone with the name “The Jerk” to come off sounding like a jerk while making absolutely no sense at all.
Anytime I see someone make the connection between homosexuality and bestiality it always makes me want to go and talk to their parents and asked why they raised such a moronic child.
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:56pm@INDEPENDENT4233
Ah, another idiot fool. Where did you get your arguments from exactly? Maybe I have too much hope in the human mind to think that you actually came up with that argument and then thought, “yeah this sounds logical.”
This place is packed with downright idiots who spout of lunacy.
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:30pmModerationIsBest
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:56pm
@INDEPENDENT4233
“Ah, another idiot fool. Where did you get your arguments from exactly?”
Well researched and logically sound. You know, like your excellent rebuttal, El Twinko.
Oh, wait a minute. You never gave a rebuttal. Only insults, which highlights your lowly intellect, eh, old man?
“Maybe I have too much hope in the human mind to think that you actually came up with that argument and then thought, “yeah this sounds logical.”
Yeah, “this” sounds logical? What are you referring to, madam twinkie? You don’t say, probably because you can’t express yourself adequately, or your mind is such an incompetent muddle you don’t really know.
What you just wrote isn’t logical nor does it say anything really. It certainly rebuts absolutely nothing.
“This place is packed with downright idiots who spout of lunacy.”
Yes, just like the post you wrote.
But, most of all, you despise people who don’t agree with your perversions.
Get used to it. The tide is turning and you will soon be on the run. Back to the wood work. It’s where you belong.
Report Post »sensibleadult
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:38pmThis is awesome. The kid already knows more Scripture than many people who call themselves Christian. The only scripture many mamby-pamby Christians know is,“Judge not”. Then they use it out of context. Kudos to this Apostolic church for teaching kids what the Bible says! I applaud them. In my church this would get a standing ovation.
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:44pmModerationIsBest
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 9:54pm
“Anytime I see someone make the connection between homosexuality and bestiality it always makes me want to go and talk to their parents and asked why they raised such a moronic child.”
And when the parents respond that the connection involves mental illnesses that are similar, with pedophilia being a part of both, and that the concept is valid, will you understand any of it or will you continue to have diarrhea of the mouth until somebody shuts you up?
If you believe homosexuals are born that way, then you believe they’re freaks of nature.
If you believe they’re made that way, then they’re mentally ill.
Freaks or mental disorders? Which is it?
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 11:20pm@INDEPENDENT4233
Why do you keep calling me a “Twink”?
Are you assuming that because I disagree with you that I’m gay?
I’m not gay, but I’m also not an idiot like you.
The stats show nothing other than possibly that homosexuals should do a better job of having protected sex. Yet that makes them freaks or mental disorders. I really hope you are a religious person. There is nothing more hilarious then seeing a person who believes in God accusing someone else of having a mental disorder.
You’re in the right place my friends. The crazies will welcome you.
Oh, and to combat you.
Twink
Twink
Twinkie
Twink
Twinkie
Twink
So hilarious.
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 12:28amLeftfighter, do you “keep” the part in Leviticus about how naughty it is to go to the all-you-can-eat Red Lobster buffet?
Report Post »DYNA
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 4:45amThe beginning of wisdom is the hatred of evil, the perverse mouth and way.
Now more than ever the haters of good, are calling good evil, and evil good.
Now more than ever the question of the simple minded as to why is there a hell if God is such a loving God can be answered by observing those who are on the hell bound path.
Those who continue to reject the Redeemer and His redemption are making hell their choice.
Those who would rather practice sinning than be delivered from it are making hell their choice.
Even worse are those who not only choose sin for themselves but influence and compel others to do the same.
Gods grace of the gift of righteousness, a grace that taken by faith, has no fellowship with unholiness.
This gift is for those who want the way out of sin, not into it.
For those who despise God and His own, if you are ever in a near physical death experience that is slow enough to give you time to think about it, your confidence in your self and fellow atheists will quickly expire as the torment of being spiritually dead, or separated from God becomes increasingly evident.
Report Post »From Gods standpoint, it is never to late to call on the Name of Jesus as His Holy Spirit convicts and convinces you. From your standpoint, do not let your conscience/heart become seared or hardened to the point where you will not hear and want to.
old white guy
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:04amif a person gives up their homosexual behaviour and turns to Christ then they will be in Heaven.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:27am@Exrepublisheep
Do you mock all of the Bible, or just the parts you don’t like?
Report Post »DoseofReality
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:32amMan, I hope these kids tun out to be gay…..what great retribution and lesson would that be against these horrible, hatefu people. The whole congregation laughing and clapping at this? This is what your church teaches? While you might not agree with gay people (I dont even know what that means, its like not agreeing with the color blue -both exist like it or not), the childish and sophmoroic reaction of these “adults” is appalling. Everyone in this vide should be ashamed of themselves, everyone on this site who agree with them should be ashamed of themselves as well. Your all pathetic….
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:53amIt is a known fact that gays spread disease. Check out the stats on the CDC.
It is also a know fact that morality went down the tubes as Rome fell. All manner of sexual devience, including homosexuality, beastiality, and other perversionsweres going on. Why do you think homosexuals have such high suicide, rates, and such high drug and alcohol abuse rates.
If this song miffs people, do they get miffed if they turn on a rock station, and the song “I want my MTV” comes across the airwaves? You know, the one with the lyrics about the “little f a g o t with the earring and the makeup….”
Libs always have a double standard
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:58am@Independent
“Nobody has to “teach” any child to hate homosexuals. Embeded in his psyche is a disgust against anything that threatens the perpetuation of his species, and he’ll grow up, as we all have, to regard the degenerative mental disease known as homosexuality to be repugnant and a danger to the survival of humankind.”
False. All hatred is learned.
“And attacking homosexuals? Don’t force acceptance of your perversions on us, keep to yourselves and out of our faces, and I would bet that most of us will leave you alone.”
Wait, so your definition of “acceptance” is “not beating people you don’t like”? You’re the kind of person who gives Christians bad names… assuming you’re a Christian. I’ve certainly never read anything in the Bible that sounds like you… well, except maybe the actions taken by those who hate God’s people.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:04am@Independent
“Aids, TB, parasitic disease and even herpes can be spread via inanimate objects.”
Yeah, and it’s pretty much impossible to do so (especially AIDS).
“And many STD’s are spread by homosexuals who are bi-sexual or at least occassionally have sex with women. And, it is a fact homosexuals have incredibly high rates of non-protected sex.”
Then again, it isn‘t a problem if you’re not sleeping around. So what’s your issue?
To go back real quick to your “they are absolutely bad citizens because they have a higher risk of STDs” strawman, lesbians have a lower chance of STDs than heterosexuals. In that case, wouldn’t heterosexuals also be “bad citizens” by your arbitrary criteria of “higher chance of STD = bad citizen?”
“Setting such a precedent….if it stands…. opens the legal door for other perversions, like bestiality. Allowing homosexual marriages opens the legal door for other interpretations of marriage like polygamy.”
By your thinking, ANY change in marriage opens the door to “other interpretations.” By this thinking, you can say Jesus opened the door for bestiality by changing polygamy (biblical marriage in the OT) to monogamy. Or in the US, that allowing interracial marriage will lead to bestiality.
Again, there’s no logical reasoning to this slippery slope. That’s why the fallacy applies to your words.
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:05am@Formidable_Foe
” By the way, I disagree with your assertion that reason has nothing at all to do with religious belief. You should maybe rethink that statement. In forming my religious beliefs, I believe I have applied a healthy dose of reason and logic when analyzing the information I have been given throughout my life.”
I think you’re misunderstanding. One can have logical reasoning without belief; and one can have belief devoid of logical reasoning. The two are mutually exclusive; belief -can- include logic, but by its very definition does not -need- to.
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:08am@Rangerp
“It is a known fact that gays spread disease. Check out the stats on the CDC.”
False. It is a known fact that the male homosexual population has a higher incidence and transmission of STDs. Like all figures, this does not mean that being gay means you automatically spread disease. As lesbians have a lower incidence and transmission of STDs compared to homosexuals, you could just as easily (and incorrectly) say that being a man means you spread disease.
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:48amModerationIsBest
@INDEPENDENT4233
“Are you assuming that because I disagree with you that I’m gay?”
Hahahahaha! Because you “disagree” with me? You’re going ballistic, near hysteria, and you‘re doing it all in defense of an illness that doesn’t affect you, eh? Yeah sure, old twink.
And you haven’t offered anything at all but insults….no substantive points of rebuttal….. and your handle is Moderationisbest. Hahahahahaha! And you’re too stupid to understand the gross hypocrisy in the name.
“I’m not gay, but I’m also not an idiot like you.”
Yeah, sure, and the pope isn’t Catholic either.
“The stats show nothing other than possibly that homosexuals should do a better job of having protected sex. Yet that makes them freaks or mental disorders..”
The above links clearly attest to MANY diseases among homosexuals that are spread by them outside of sex, especially aids, parasitic infections, TB, a new strain of bacteria that is lethal to the population in general, and even various hepatitis viruses can be spread outside of sex, as well as the herpes virus, which is rampant among homosexuals can be transmitted by touching inanimate objects by a carrier.
“There is nothing more hilarious then seeing a person who believes in God accusing someone else of having a mental disorder.”
I’m an agnostic. But having faith in a higher power keeps a person mentally grounded with better than average values.
You help support my case.
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 9:14amModerationisbest:
“The stats show nothing other than possibly that homosexuals should do a better job of having protected sex. Yet that makes them freaks or mental disorders..”
There was no connection made that homosexual diseases…all verified and authenticated…. introduced into society at large, was the basis of their mental disorder. Their mental disorder is the result of having an attraction toward someone or SOME THING other than a human of the opposite sex, which is imbeded deeply in every living creature, especially man. An attraction for the same sex, animals and children (Pedophilia), are all mental disorders, with one or the other often crossing over into an afflicted person’s behavior.
Having a handle like moderationisbest, hurling insults with absolutely no logical rebuttal, then claiming people are stupid or idiots reveals how really stupid you are. You can’t even see the hypocrisy in what you write.
Why don’t you quit whining and go to the shrink to get cured? Wouldn‘t that be a lot easier than wasting your time trying to get people to believe you’re not sick? Or constantly trying to get others to accept an abberration that nature tells us in many ways is wrong?
Homosexuals are dangerous to the health and welfare of our family and friends.
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 9:46amLOCKED:
“False. All hatred is learned.”
Disgust and revulsion against homosexuality are not hate. They are safeguards instilled by nature into the psyche of all living creatures to perpetuate the species. It has nothing to do with morality either. Without those embeded feelings a species could not survive.
People are also instilled with the same disgust and revulsion against those who are attracted to animals. And any attraction to anything other than the opposite sex of any species amounts to a mental disorder.
If you would prefer to believe perverts are born with an attraction to the opposite sex or animals, which is beyond their control, then you’re admitting they are freaks of nature.
If they opt for homosexuality or bestiality, then they have a mental disorder.
You can spin the facts any way you want to try to impose your perversions in order to gain acceptance, but nobody really believes anything you allege.
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“And attacking homosexuals? Don’t force acceptance of your perversions on us, keep to yourselves and out of our faces, and I would bet that most of us will leave you alone.”
“Wait, so your definition of “acceptance” is “not beating people you don’t like”?
I’m agnostic. But you have a lot of gall after spewing your hatred and insults of Christians to claim that people who are merely disgusted with same sex displays and bestiality must accept them without reservation.
Homosexuals are vicious haters.
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:14am@Independent
“I’m agnostic.”
My comments have had nothing to do with religion. Are you implying the religious cannot be tolerant, or that you, as a non-religious person, somehow are moreso?
“But you have a lot of gall after spewing your hatred and insults of Christians to claim that people who are merely disgusted with same sex displays and bestiality must accept them without reservation.”
What insults or hatred have I thrown at Christians? I am a Christian, you dolt. You’re the one who responded with “Why do we need to accept them!?“ when I said ”Don’t promote violence.”
Do you support violence against gays? I’m curious, because this is the second time you’ve sidestepped the issue or tacitly supported such actions and words.
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:23am@Independent
“Aids, TB, parasitic disease and even herpes can be spread via inanimate objects.”
Yeah, and it’s pretty much impossible to do so (especially AIDS).
FALSE!
Just having a population of people who have INCREDIBLY HIGH numbers of diseases is in themselves enough of a worry besides the ones that can be transmitted other than sexual contact, because they will eventually spread into our communities at large. Homosexuals cause these diseases to very rapidly spread in both numbers and areas.
And, aids is FAR more easily transmittable…outside of sex…. than you would like for us to believe. And the new strain of bacteria that is now being spread by homosexuals is getting into mainstream society.
Homosexuals Are Spreading Deadly Drug-Resistant Bacteria
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/01/homosexuals_are.html
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1
“Reports at a national conference about sexually transmitted diseases indicate that gay men are in the highest risk group for several of the most serious diseases. . .”
And anybody who thinks a homosexual beset with aids isn’t a big risk for transmitting communicable diseases like T.B…..as just ONE EXAMPLE…. is ignorant of medical fact.
Parasitic diseases coming from the colon of homosexuals who have high incidents of parasitic infection, transmitted via fecal matter to the genitals, then to the mouth, can be EASILY spread through casual contact or sneezing.
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:42am@Independent
“And, aids is FAR more easily transmittable…outside of sex…. than you would like for us to believe.”
Take it from a guy who volunteered with AIDS testing groups for a year in college: you’re wrong. Short of some conspiracy theory you might hold of gays purposely slashing their veins to spray blood all over toilet seats on the offchance that someone has a cut on their butt when they sit down, you’re not going to get AIDS from everyday contact with an HIV positive person. Do you need to be more careful? Sure. But the throwback to “If you’re around AIDS carriers, you’ll get AIDS!” is from the 1980s. Keep the misinformation in the past, please.
It’s nice that you “Moon Battery” site might think otherwise, but you’re still delusional.
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:45amLOCKED:
“And many STD’s are spread by homosexuals who are bi-sexual or at least occassionally have sex with women. And, it is a fact homosexuals have incredibly high rates of non-protected sex.”
“Then again, it isn‘t a problem if you’re not sleeping around. So what’s your issue?”
“Not a problem” for whom? You mean, of course, the homosexual. And you’re wondering what the issue might be? Amazing. This shows your flagrant disregard more than anything you have tried to spin regarding the dangers of the spread of diseases by homosexuals.
Multiple partners and promiscuity by homosexuals is an accepted fact. No link or proof is needed.
“……wouldn’t heterosexuals also be “bad citizens” by your arbitrary criteria of “higher chance of STD = bad citizen?”
No. There is no parallel there. Homosexuals are a specific group of people within the population that have proven themselves and their lifestyles to be a threat to society as a whole.
“Setting such a precedent….if it stands…. opens the legal door for other perversions, like bestiality. Allowing homosexual marriages opens the legal door for other interpretations of marriage like polygamy.”
“By your thinking, ANY change in marriage opens the door to “other interpretations.” (Like bestiality and interracial marriages.)
If one mental illness is allowed or one specific lifestyle, how can the courts legitimately continue to support one but not the other? Hist
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 11:12amLocked
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:42am
@Independent
“And, aids is FAR more easily transmittable…outside of sex…. than you would like for us to believe.”
“Take it from a guy who volunteered with AIDS testing groups for a year in college: you’re wrong. Short of some conspiracy theory you might hold of gays purposely slashing their veins to spray blood all over toilet seats on the offchance that someone has a cut on their butt when they sit down, you’re not going to get AIDS from everyday contact with an HIV positive person.”
Homosexuals very often have open lesions in their buttocks areas, due to anal herpes or anorectal cancer….which is very high among them…. or another malady that causes open cuts or sores. which come in contact with toilet seats. Herpes can be spread from contact from the blood or body fluid left by those lesions to the toilet seat to the skin of a person sitting on it, and aids can be transmitted as well if a person also has a slight cut or lesion from any number of reasons.
“Do you need to be more careful? Sure.”
Careful? How can a person be careful not to catch contagious diseases spread by homosexuals? What can we do about the incredibly high cases of T.B. among aids infected homosexuals who spread it by sneezing and other easily transmittable diseases rife within the homosexual community?
Taking a bath after even casual contact is a must, but is it enough?
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 11:14am@Independent
“No. There is no parallel there. Homosexuals are a specific group of people within the population that have proven themselves and their lifestyles to be a threat to society as a whole.”
What do you mean? I just told you: homosexual men have a greater chance of having an STD than heterosexuals, than do lesbians. Thus, the heterosexual lifestyle is more dangerous to society than lesbian relationships. By your reasoning, this proves heterosexuals to be a threat to society as a whole.
Doesn’t make sense? Look back at your comments and you‘ll understand our problem with what you’ve been saying. You make up arbitrary definitions for “threats to society,” that you change or discard when they don’t agree with you. It‘s the classic goalpost moving found when someone doesn’t believe their own argument. The more you post the more obvious it is that you’re not worried about STDs or infections: you just don’t like gays, and try to make that more appealing through other metrics.
“If one mental illness is allowed or one specific lifestyle, how can the courts legitimately continue to support one but not the other?”
Several reasons, none of which you’ll care about, such as inability to consent and animal abuse (bestiality) or inheritance issues and benefits fraud (polygamy). That you refuse to see any difference between these is not the failing of the courts or their very definitions, but of your understanding of them.
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 11:58am@Independent
“Homosexuals very often have open lesions in their buttocks areas…”
… which is great and all, but how the heck does that get onto the part of a toilet where it could spread to someone else? This is why I called it a conspiracy theory. Can it spread? Sure. What’s the rate of that? I’d love to see your statistics about the rampant blood-to-toilet-seat-to-AIDS epidemic you seem so sure is occurring. I’d love stats from, say, the CDC, or any actual scientific foundation that studies AIDS rates. Moon batteries and extremist blogs need not apply.
“Do you need to be more careful? Sure.”
Careful? How can a person be careful not to catch contagious diseases spread by homosexuals?”
As we’re talking about AIDS? Make sure you have no open cuts, don’t put your hands near your eyes, etc.
“What can we do about the incredibly high cases of T.B. among aids infected homosexuals who spread it by sneezing and other easily transmittable diseases rife within the homosexual community?”
I think they should be committed to the hospital if they are a danger to others through bacteria-resistant TB. However, TB rates are the lowest they’ve been in the US since the 1950s (as per CDC reports for 2011). I can‘t help but think you’re going out on the thinnest, longest limb you can find to try and make your points.
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 12:32pmLocked:
Here’s just one example of the evils wrought on our children by those who engage in perversions. This young kid is being given homone blockers to delay puberty, because these disgusting lesbians would like for him to choose whether or not he wants to be a boy or a girl even though he was obviously born a male.
This child’s life is ruined. He has been used by these perverts as a social experiment without any regard to the confusion they have caused him, pretending as if all humans have the option of selecting their sex, as if being born one sex or another has nothing to do with it.
To them this little boy is a toy to be played with, and the politicians who allowed such a thing to occur are criminals on the same level as Stalinist social experimenters.
It is a crime of the highest order and both these sorry excuses of humanity deserve to be locked away for good, and if they cause this kid to commit suicide or have ungodly mental problems they should be convicted of a capital crime and executed.
http://jonathanturley.org/2011/10/18/tommy-or-tammy-california-parents-give-son-hormone-treatment-to-delay-puberty-to-allow-him-to-explore-a-female-identity/
Tommy or Tammy? California Parents Give Son Hormone Treatment To Delay Puberty To Allow Him To Explore a Female Identity
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 12:45pmLocked
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 11:58am
@Independent
Indp: “Homosexuals very often have open lesions in their buttocks areas…”
Locked: “… which is great and all,”
Why do you think that is great? Is it because you think infecting the public is something we deserve?
” but how the heck does that get onto the part of a toilet where it could spread to someone else?”
How does a bleeding buttocks, internally or externally via cuts, lesions or abrasions infect a toilet seat?
Conspiracy theory? Hahaha. Hillarious.
It would be funnier still if you came up with aids and anorectal cancer or anal herpes then you could see for yourself.
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 1:02pmLOCKED:
“Take it from a guy who volunteered with AIDS testing groups for a year in college: you’re wrong.”
Was this aids testing group comprised of aids patients?
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 1:03pm@Independent
“Conspiracy theory? Hahaha. Hillarious.”
Great! Those figures now, please – anything from a scientific foundation or CDC about the epidemic of folks being infected by toilet seats? You know, the figures besides the ones showing TB in America at the lowest point of the last five decades, contrary to your “We’re all going to die of ****-TB!” ideas.
“It would be funnier still if you came up with aids and anorectal cancer or anal herpes then you could see for yourself.”
You could use some Christ in your life, bud. I might think you’re a tinfoil-hatted conspiracy theorist, but I’d never wish deadly diseases upon you. I guess it‘s not an issue if you accept you’re a terrible person and don’t wish to improve yourself, but most people I know can’t say such things without thinking, “Huh, maybe this does make me a *****.”
Report Post »Hollywood
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 1:11pmEXACTLY what Romans Chapter 1 says! Somewhat insensitive re what was said though, We are ALL still sinners, saved or NOT. As TRUE disciples of Christ, we are to allow the Holy Spirit, to use US ,in a SPIRIT of compassion,, and love, to guide others to Repentance, and Salvation. We, saved by the shed blood of Christ, NEED to show Christ’s LOVE for the lost, as we once were.
Report Post »I LOVE ALL Homosexuals, and Lesbians, etc. I HATE their SIN, We need to keep the two separated, or satan wins their souls. The WORST thing to do is to denigrate them, as humans, because of their sin. LOOK in the mirror first!
Maranatha
Maranatha
Locked
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 1:41pm@Independent
“Why do you think that is great? Is it because you think infecting the public is something we deserve?”
There’s this amazing new thing called “sarcasm” that you should reaaaaally look into. Trust me – it’s going to be a hit!
What I was doing was dismissing your “gays are infecting toilet seats to give us all herpes, AIDS, and TB” looniness. Sorry that you couldn’t figure that out :-(
“Was this aids testing group comprised of aids patients?”
Are you asking about the volunteers, or the people we helped test? The volunteers, as far as I know, were HIV negative students; if they had HIV or AIDS, we didn’t know. Some of the patients were HIV positive. A lot of gay men – but also a shocking number of women. I didn’t expect that, really.
Oddly, none of them said “I got HIV from a toilet seat!” Biggest factor was they were not in monogamous relationships or using protection. All you can do is educate and hope people listen to experts – and not conspiracy theorists like you.
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 1:51pmLocked
@Independent
“Conspiracy theory? Hahaha. Hillarious.”
“Great! Those figures now, please – anything from a scientific foundation or CDC about the epidemic of folks being infected by toilet seats?
Pretending that I’m alleging there is an epidemic of “folks being infected by toilet seats,” is just another manipulative, disingenenuous homosexual ploy to try to cast doubt on substantiated facts via ridicule. You’re not very clever.
Homosexuality is a very, very dangerous, unhealthy affliction to encourage within a population, and it’s certainly one that could be reduced through intense psychotherapy. Every society should do what it can to reduce or eliminate this evil threat. On this problem, the Muslims are exactly right.
But let me interject one important item here. By continuing on with your obfuscations, you have allowed me a forum to further inform people about the dangers of homosexuality, which is what I want to do. Too much is being said about opposition to perversion on the basis of religion. People need to be made aware that there are far more horrifying dangers to homosexuality than mere religious non-acceptance.
People have to understand also that you and others employ childish ploys often based on name-calling in order to use buzzwords, to eliminate the need to answer valid, truthful allegations, in addition to illogical assertions.
Most of what you respond with is tacitly rejected.
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Posted on May 31, 2012 at 2:02pm@Independent
“Pretending that I’m alleging there is an epidemic of “folks being infected by toilet seats,” is just another manipulative, disingenenuous homosexual ploy to try to cast doubt on substantiated facts via ridicule. You’re not very clever.”
So… your rebuttal is “I have no facts, so I‘m going to pretend you’re just being disingenuous!” Well, I‘d certainly say that’s not very clever either :-)
“Homosexuality is a very, very dangerous, unhealthy affliction to encourage within a population, and it’s certainly one that could be reduced through intense psychotherapy.”
Great, facts for that? Everything I’ve seen has shown that psychotherapy is ineffective at changing the attractive (ie, being gay): the most it can do is behavior modification, and even then it lasts less than a fourth of the time in the veeeeery limited studies that have been done.
“Every society should do what it can to reduce or eliminate this evil threat. On this problem, the Muslims are exactly right.”
Yeah, um, what exactly are the Muslims right about? That homosexuals should be murdered? Oh. Genocide. There’s a unique and ingenuous idea with no possible shortcomings.
“Most of what you respond with is tacitly rejected.”
Anything you refuse to respond to I‘ve just assumed you can’t back it up. Like your claim that STDs are your focus, and toilet seats are being polluted, and TB is up due to gays. All those false claims? You’ can only fool other
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Posted on June 1, 2012 at 11:41pm@ Locked,
When one applies logic and reasoning to something, it is for the purpose of drawing a conclusion, thus forming (a) belief/beliefs. However, I agree with you that people often form beliefs without using logical reasoning ~ key work, “logical.” Of course, the reasoning we use to form our beliefs (although often complex) is unfortunately, flawed.
Report Post »Just in time
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:06pmI read something today. If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:56pm” If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.”
To take a cynical view, this is because many Republican voters disagree with homosexuality, and an openly gay GOP candidate would not be accepted. On the flip side, many Democratic voters are fine with homosexuality, and an openly gay Democrat can find a core of support. Acting in the ways you describe can simply be seen as a political move.
Report Post »Zenzazin
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:20pmjust look at what happened to Romney’s campaign spokesman who lasted less than 2 weeks.
Report Post »Azzman
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:03pmAnd if a republican does not want to own a gun he quietly does not have one but if a democrat does not own a gun he thinks your right to own a gun should be taken away. The list goes on and on…
Report Post »survivorseed
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 12:53amWhen a muslim makes a threat hes a terrorist, when a republican firebombs a medical clinic he is a patriot.
Report Post »red_white_blue2
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:05pmPeople don’t choose sexuality. I didn’t choose straight over gay..it just IS
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:23pmIt’s a judgement by God and our own sin is the gateway.
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:27pmBeg to differ Red_ , I served as an Army Medic for eight years. I understand a bit about genetics.
Report Post »This dung about nobody choosing their sexuality is just that dung. There is NO credible scientific evidence that anyone was ever born homosexual -it is a learned behavior–simple as that.
Chuck Stein
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:37pmMale homosexuals tend to become “gay” by a combination of an innate tendency plus environmental factors. The biggest environmental factor is sexual abuse.
Report Post »“Lesbians” often make a conscience choice for homosexual activity. For example, I have a cousin who went to Wellesley (Hillary Clinton’s alma mater). That cousin had a classmate who was active in Lesbian liaisons. Years later, she was getting married — to a man. My cousin asked “But aren’t you a Lesbian“ and her friend responded ”Oh, you can’t tell anyone about that.”
encinom
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:47pmStonyBurk
Report Post »Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:27pm
Beg to differ Red_ , I served as an Army Medic for eight years. I understand a bit about genetics.
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How is putting a band-aid on a boo-boo the same as the work of doctors studfying DNA and genetics. Really, are you also qualified to perform brain surgery too? Is an X-Ray tech qualified to operate a nuclear power plant?
Thomas Paine
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:57pmI know someone that used to be gay that will argue that.
Report Post »Doctor Nordo
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:02pmGonna have to stifle my gag reflex and side with Encinom on this one. Being a medic in the army does not make you qualified to speak authoritatively on the subject of genetics.
Report Post »UnitedwithIsrael
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:20pmSexuality is part of our behavior, is not what you are. There are many kinds of sexual behavior. Who decides what is proper behavior? If you “are born” with that tendency, are you to overcome it or just do whatever pleases your body? Some people may say that they are born with the tendency to drink alcohol, to lie, to be lazy and not work… are we to embrace them and give them the right to live their lives as they want to or is it our duty to show them a better way? If homosexuals get their own rights, aren’t we discriminating against those that want to practice their sexuality with the same freedom?
Report Post »Tom K
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:53pm@ RED_WHITE_BLUE2 & STONYBURK : The Gay addiction ( not ” life-style ” ) IS learned behavior. Homosexuals will prey on those they perceive to be vulnerable and “ enlist ” them into their own deviant behavior. Once the “ enlistee ” has been broken down, they are told that they are dirty little queers and the process of abuse continues. { Molested children often become molestors, too, and that cycle continues. } The word GAY once meant happy and carefree. These deviants have soiled that word to mean exactly the opposite. God our Father created us to be fruitful ( NOT fruits ) and multiply. Unnatural homosexuals can not multiply naturally so they must recruit. One of my best friends CHOSE the so-called homosexual-lifestyle over his wife and children and paid for it with his life – sacrificed on the altar of A.I.D.S. Let that child sing and leave him alone – you can not have him or drag him into your filthy “lifestyle”. May God help you and He will if you turn away from your sin and ask to be forgiven.
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Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:05pmencinom
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:47pm
StonyBurk
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:27pm
Beg to differ Red_ , I served as an Army Medic for eight years. I understand a bit about genetics.
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“How is putting a band-aid on a boo-boo the same as the work of doctors studfying DNA and genetics. Really, are you also qualified to perform brain surgery too? Is an X-Ray tech qualified to operate a nuclear power plant?”
That’s a really dumb comparison, especially since there is no work witin the field of genetics…….or specifically….DNA research, that attests to homosexuality as a trait a person is born with.
But aside from that do you know what you’re saying?
You’re alleging that homosexuals are freaks of nature, because they’re born that way, like a five-legged calf.
Of course, if you agree they’re made that way from many different factors…like a dominating, overbearing mother…then you’re saying they have a mental illness.
Freaks of nature or mentally ill? And you opt for freaks?
That’s quite a choice.
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Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:24pm@Independent4233
Report Post »Such a good christian you are, so filled with hate. I bet you are a month away from coming out of the closet.
Fatheroftwo
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 7:19pmPeople! People! It makes me say to read all the hatred from both sides of this issue!! Here’s a simple truth, stand in the fire or don’t: Sexuality may not be a choice, rather, the choice lies in acting upon your urge or not! One way is sin, the other isn’t!!
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 12:11pmencinom
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:24pm
@Independent4233
“Such a good christian you are, so filled with hate. I bet you are a month away from coming out of the closet.”
I’m agnostic, and it is disgusting homosexuals who are hate-filled promoters of lies, deceit and a desire to infect humanity with incredibly high numbers of diseases. We are nearing the end of that.
Your in-your-face approach to demand mainstream acceptance is making the public at large hate your disgusting guts.
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:29pmI am a flaming heterosexual, you can all kiss my butt cause I was born this way, Baby!
Report Post »formidable_foe
Posted on June 1, 2012 at 11:58pmI‘ve always said I’m a lesbian trapped in a man’s body. I‘m just glad I’m the butch type so I‘m not traumatized by looking at childhood pictures and being upset about the clothes I’m in. lol. On another note, I’ve always found it interesting that a “butch” type exists. Why do they feel as if they have to look more like a man than a woman? It’s almost like they despise being a woman and want to be a man. And then, there‘s the lesbian partner who isn’t butch but is evidently attracted to the butch type. They’re attracted to a woman that looks more like a man. Then, there’s their use of sex toys that mimic a male penis, but if it were attached to a real male body, it’s no good. ??? It’s all very strange to me.
Report Post »Nemo13
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:04pm“Focus people. All of this agit-prop is intended to take people‘s attention off Obama’s failures. ”
Then why is it being reported here on the Blaze? Haha.. Here is a tip: Most people can multi-task. Mot can handle many things without losing sight of that which is most important.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:04pmAre you kidding me? Personally, I’m against any adult using children to sing about controversial stuff that only adults would argue about. But to go after this kid for singing this song, when we have schools doing everything they can to teach young kids to worship Obama through song and dance.
One kid for God vs thousands of children humming for Obama.
Come on Liberals, try your diatribe again. This time with feeling.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:40pmIn the Progressive perspective, Conservatives can have children, but the schools are there to “fix” any conservatism that might infect the kids.
Report Post »Tom K
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:01pm@ APPLE BITE : THANK YOU ! When the Government Schools were indoctrinating our children to sing the “ Obama Song ” – Uh Huh, Uh Huh, THAT was okay. But let one little kid sing a song in church that goes against a DEVIANT LIFE CHOICE, then the commies get upset. Hog Wash !
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:04pm…
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Out of the mouth of babes…..
jjohnson_n_oklahoma
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:07pmAMEN!!! We are commanded to love everyone, but we certainly don’t have to agree with what they do. Homosexuality is a sin, and NO SIN will enter into the Kingdom of God.
Report Post »tmarends
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:28pm@ jjohnson_n_oklahoma
Does that mean you won’t enter heaven either, because, according to the Bible, we are ALL sinners, and therefore do not deserve heaven.
However, Christ came and paid the price for our sin. ALL who believe in Chirst will be saved, and are not condemned (John 3:16-18). Even if you believe homosexuality is a sin, it would not be unforgivable… forgiveness of sin is between the person and God… YOU do not play a part. Paul, in Romans 2, condemns those who judge the “sins” of others, telling them that they are just as guilty!
Report Post »ThatsJustCrazyTalk
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 5:11pmI agree with @tmarends. We shouldn’t judge. Although, we do have a responsibility to be watchmen and not promote sin. This is why I’m baffled how a Christian can actually be a Leftist. “Abortions?“ ”Gay Marriage???”
John 3:3-7 tells us that we need to be born of a New Spirit. That can happen at anytime, even seconds before death. We should be careful not to condemn those who God has forgiven. On that note… JJohnson is correct… “No Sin will enter Heaven.” That’s because we are spiritual beings and will shed the sinful flesh prior to entering Heaven.
Report Post »red_white_blue2
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:04pmIt is not for Christians or anyone to judge. God instructed us in His own words not to judge, lest we too will be judged. You don’t have to agree, but you do have to respect, and have common decency.
Report Post »RicohCop
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:20pmThat is not what the Bible says….you have heard this so long you believe it. The Bible says that a well “learned” person judges all things through the application of the scriptures. You are correct that it says you should not be a hypocrite but you are to learn the scriptures to apply them in your life.
Report Post »2GodBeTheGlory
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:44pm@ RED_WHITE_BLUE2
You do not know what the Bible says as you’ve do not know what Christ was saying. We are to judge, actions, not the soul of a man. Only Christ can judge the soul, however, man through God’s guidance can judge a mans actions. If you are going to try a quot the bible, have the respect to do it right or just shut up so you don’t show your stupidity. Christ also tells us to teach, right from wrong. As we know what the bible plainly says, we can state what actions are sinful and without repentance will cause the sinner to fall from grace because of the action.
Report Post »sensibleadult
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 10:42pm“He that is spiritual judgeth all things.” (I Cor. 2:15) It is actually wrong NOT to judge. You can’t even distinguish right from wrong without making judgments.
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:02pmAnother one of my posts disappeared? Moderators don’t like the truth.
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:14pmThere it is!
Report Post »RicohCop
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:02pmThis is very sad. Christ always loved the sinner. Here is the truth though. When Jesus healed someone from their sins He always said go and sin no more. There is only one thing that keeps you out of heaven and it is not homosexuality….it is whether your sins are covered by the blood of the resurrected Saviour Jesus Christ. If a homosexual or a straight person’s sins are not covered neither will be in heaven. Homosexuality is no different than other sins in the Bible in that all cause people to need a Saviour to go to heaven. Love the sinner as we are all sinners but love them enough to tell the truth – the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:49pmNod.
Report Post »Joshua7
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:25pm*Like*
Report Post »ehayes2006
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 6:52pmNoggle.
Report Post »BeenSetFree
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 11:03amAmen, Brother.
Report Post »2GodBeTheGlory
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 12:19pm@RicohCop
Point in fact. Some sins during the redevelopment of the Israelite where considered “abominations” by God Himself where HE required the forfeit of the persons life. Contrary to what people say, there where few reasons that required a persons life and homosexuality was one of them. The reason for this was to purify and purge ones that would destroy God’s people with things that came from Egypt. God commands that man shall be the spiritual leader of the family, one who teaches his children to follow God and keep his commandments. How is this possible with a person that wants to destroy what God is creating by openly rejecting what God wants? Yes, all sin prevents you from entering into heaven, however, there is sin of the “self” and sin that destroys the community. No where do I find that Jesus Christ says that any sin of the flesh is “ok” or that you can enter into the kingdom of heaven while not repenting of that and other sins. Yes, destroying the community by other sins such as adultery are just as bad as homosexuality, that’s why the end result was the same. True, once a person repents, as a Christian we can not longer judge that person.
Be very careful how you “use” God’s words. Understand why God created the original laws to begin with and how such laws should be applied to you as a professing Christian. Judgment of the soul is left to Christ, however, we are to judge those within the congregation and God leads.
Report Post »Nemo13
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:02pmAll you crybabies boo hoo-ing about this kid, guess what: *YAWN* ok? Go hug a godless **** and be happy in your twisted world, leave these people to their beliefs. That is how America rolls. Free Country.
Report Post »tuchux
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:03pmRight on!!! amen!!
Report Post »mcsledge
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:59pmIt‘s hate speech when it goes against one’s immoral convictions. Nice. I wonder if the world is ready to call Christ a hater when they stand before Him at Judgment Day. For no unclean individual will enter the presence of God.
Report Post »Just in time
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:58pmThis is the same speech the KKK uses.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:06pmYours is the same speech that the ACLU uses. The ACLU is the liberal KKK.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:07pmAnd your kind are worse than the KKK. At least the KKK isn’t forcing me to practice tolerance and diversity like you hypocrites are. Why do you get to pick and choose who to associate with and nobody else does?
Report Post »DoseofReality
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 12:54pmGit-R-Done…so the KKK is better than people who practive tolerance? What happened to your in your life? Im serious, something is wrong upstairs….
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:58pmOne is either for sin or against it.
Report Post »mcsledge
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:01pmWell put. People seem to think that all shades of gray are acceptible as long as they do not dabble in the black, but they are wrong (and will find this out when judgment comes).
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:57pmIt’s called sin folks – one has to repent.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:01pmYup.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:56pmMaybe he can toddle down to the nearest Catholic church and run that by one of the pedophiles, um…I mean priests.
Report Post »voxpopuli2012
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:53pmFocus people. All of this agit-prop is intended to take people‘s attention off Obama’s failures. The Blaze needs to keep a laser focus on Obama and the devastation that his administration is wrecking on this country and let the lame stream media (and the 5 people who watch it) deal with this trash.
Report Post »Nemo13
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:53pmWell, if you look at the teachings of religion, as the kid is saying, ain’t none getting in to heaven. You have a choice in life, you may be born different, and it may suck not to be like everyone else, but you can choose to not follow that lifestyle, or embrace it. It’s clear what happens if you embrace it. Nobody said life was fair, God gave the rules, so there it is.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:52pm“Believing him to be no older than five, some are calling the church’s treatment of the boy out-and-out child abuse.” Oh please. We all teach our children what we believe to be truth. Teaching a child that homosexuals don’t make it to heaven is no different than teaching a child that there is no heaven or hell and we just die so live how you want.
“…critics believe was too young to truly understand what he was singing.” Right. He may be. And he is trying to please the adults around him. Isn‘t this everyone’s childhood? Do you think kids understand when they are taught to sing ring-around-the-rosey when they are two years old? Should we just not teach children anything at all until they are 10 yrs old when they can understand more? Ridiculous.
Why can’t people just say what they want to really say? They hate Christians and they look for the ones who have unpopular beliefs to make Christianity look crazy. This is their agenda.
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:07pmThe vampire lady just wants to make money – the parents want their children in Heaven.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:04pm@Deeberj
“Oh please. We all teach our children what we believe to be truth. Teaching a child that homosexuals don’t make it to heaven is no different than teaching a child that there is no heaven or hell and we just die so live how you want.”
You nailed it on the head. Anyone calling this child abuse is simply itching for more government intervention in private worship. The kid isn’t singing about killing gays, hating gays, or even treating them differently. He’s just singing what his parents have taught him about who gets into heaven.
If you don‘t agree with the faith that’s fine – it’s not your church! I‘m not a Mormon because I don’t believe in the Book of Mormon; should that mean that all Mormon parents are guilty of child abuse for teaching their kids something different? Heck no. Only sensationalists and those against the freedom of speech would make such a claim.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:17pm@LOCKED
You speak wisdom.
I’ve read most of your comments on this article, and I have nothing to add.
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Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:51pmAs a Christian (Catholic) AND a Conservative… I find this very disturbing to say the least. I’m also not an endorser of Gays, the LGBT lifestyle, Gay marriage, and Gays entering the Military as I find that also very disturbing.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:00pmI find it disturbing you call yourself a conservative. You are supporting and did support candidates that will increase our spending, debt, continue wars, and take away freedoms. You are as much of a conservative as Obama is.
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:49pmIt’s the truth! There is NOT going to be any homos in heaven. John 3:13 Or Catholics, or Christians, or Islamics, or Buddists, …. Better read Revelation 12:9 Satan has deceived the whole EARTH.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:53pm@RAMONPRESTON
As a Christian, I object to that remark.
Of course, I’m a Latter Day Saint, so you would argue I’m not Christian.
As a popular bumper sticker says: “Don’t Judge Me Because I Sin Differently Than You”.
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:16pmThe Bible says what the Bible says. Do you believe what it says or what you were TOLD it says?
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:19pmGet with it, Brother Ed. NO ONE is going to heaven. You didn’t read John 3:13 did you? How about John 6:44?
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:36pm@RAMONPRESTON
I have read them, and I believe you are misinterpreting them.
If what you are taught is that nobody is going to heaven, I would question your teacher. If you came up with that belief on your own, I would suggest finding a preacher and asking them.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:55pmYou pulled that one scripture out of context.
13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
This was talking about how Jesus would ascend back to heaven after having come here from heaven. Go read the whole bible; not just one verse out of context.
Luke 6:23 talks about receiving a reward in heaven. How can you do that without being there?
Corinthians talks about when this earthly tabernacle is gone (our bodies) we will live in a house not made with hands in heaven.
1 Thess. 4 talks about Jesus coming down from heaven and taking us back up with him.
Hebrews 11:16 talks about God having a city for us in heaven
Peter 1:4 talks about having an uncorruptable inheritance in heaven
Revelations 5:3 – “And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.” So a man can be in heaven, apparantly.
Revelations 11:12 talks about the two prophets in the end times ascending to heaven.
Revelations 19:1 says ” And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:” So people are in heaven at this point.
Report Post »westtitus
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:34pmThis is not true! There is not difference between two people of opposite sex living together and two men living together. Fornication is fornication, period. You don’t get to Heaven by works, only by Jesus Christ, “I am the Way, the Truth and Life and NO ONE comes to the Father but through Me”. They can ask for forgivness just as two people living together that are not married can. I am not for gay marrigage but also don’t believe in comparing sins as they are all the same. Let the person with no sin throw the first stone. This is an awful thing to teach to your child, God is Love and he is speaking an untruth. This makes Christians look bad and is totally against what Jesus taught so cut it out and teach your children Love and Truth. We should pray for this family…….
Report Post »KeithOlberdink
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:40pmYou may not agree with it, but it’s freedom of speech, and I will give up my life to protect this child‘s right to say what he’s saying.
Report Post »marvlus
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:39pmHope the little child doesn’t regret this if, and when he comes out.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:51pmAny proof that homosexuality is born that way? LOL
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:37pmNo surprise that the left hates the Biblical truth.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:42pmWhat truth, only hate is being shown. Hate appears to be the truth of the American Christian.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:44pm“Biblical Truth” is like “Social Justice” but with a different agenda.
Both sew the seeds of tyranny, death and hatred.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:50pmEncinom – Except your definition of hate isn’t based on anything. You Marxists hate Christians and capitalists and anybody else who opposes your dogma.
Report Post »trueamerican40
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:58pmReally, MrButcher? Tell me where in this world are true christians murdering people as we type? Where? True christians defend human rights and without true christians, YOU would not have the freedoms and rights and liberties that you enjoy right now. Take your propaganda elsewhere.
Report Post »mcsledge
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:07pmencinom – I’m sure that everyone who disagrees with your views has been flagged as a hater. I guess, based on Biblical writings, that God is a hater too. Good luck with that one when you stand before Christ to be judged by a holy and pure God.
Report Post »bigpew
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:08pmEnci, you know not what you say. I do not see or hear any hate, only what is written in the Bible. It’s in there regardless of if you like it or not. So you are spewing hate by attacking our freedom to believe as one see fit and our right to free speech. Please grow up.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:42pm@encinom: Folks such as yourself really water-down and dilute the term “hate”. Not good.
Report Post »yiska8
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:42pmSomeone needs to get Encinom in a room full of Jihadists and you’ll know what HATE truly means. Never ceases to amaze how the Christians are so hated by atheists. But Islamists would slit the throat of a homosexual, a Jew, an atheist,or any infidel as a matter of honor and be thrown a party in Riyadh and would happily do it again and again with full celebration. A little boy singing a song in a church about homosexuals not going to heaven pales compared to what the children of Muslims sing about doing in the name of Allah to every non-believer on the planet!!! But all you hear is crickets from the homosexual activists. It’s always easier to pick on the Christians. Not quite so brave with Muslims though. Nothing but crickets.
Report Post »Steve28
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:36pmWow how is teaching intolerance to kids any different than what the Moslems are doing to their kids. It is just wrong. I do not believe most people chose to be gay any more than I did straight. It is just how we are made.
Report Post »KeithOlberdink
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:44pmWrong, according to you. This child has every right to say what he is saying. I see no threats of violence. Farrakhan (Moslems) are calling for the extermination of white people, big difference.
Report Post »trueamerican40
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:46pmProve it. You cannot. Let me tell you something–I work with people who are gay and every one of them tell me confidentially that they were molested some time in their lives. Science will never trump the soul and the pyshe of people–for many, the environment shapes everyone. The genetic theory is what it is—hypothetical. If you believe this than why not believe that Islam is a religion of peace. get your facts straight before you come on this site or go elsewhere—I don’t care.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:49pmAny proof that you’re born homosexual?
Report Post »TeaBagThemAll
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:53pmTRUEAMERICAN40, you work for the Catholic Church?
deeberj
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:54pmNot everyone believes that gays are born that way. And even if they are, this man‘s father has a right to teach him that homos don’t do to heaven. Whether it’s true or not.
Report Post »mcsledge
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:09pmWrong! Nature promotes life and the creation there of. Nothing in homosexuality promotes life and the creation there of.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:18pm@Steve28
“Wow how is teaching intolerance to kids any different than what the Moslems are doing to their kids.”
Well for one, this kid isn’t advocating violence. He’s stating his religious belief. You can disagree with that belief, but the kid isn’t even calling for passive action against gays – he‘s just saying they won’t go to heaven.
If you think he’s wrong, then he could just as easily turn around and say “No, you’re wrong!” And if you think heaven doesn’t exist, then why should it bother you if someone damns you?
This article isn’t about the right or wrong, or cause, of being gay. It’s about the freedom of speech. If no one’s being threatened, the kid can say whatever he wants.
Report Post »tmarends
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:33pm@ Git-R-Done
Report Post »Any proof you are not?
encinom
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:36pmMore and more evidence that Christianity is nothing more than a religion of hate and bigotry. It looks like Westboro, is not a fringe group but the true ugly face of the American Christian.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:50pmAnd you Marxists aren’t full of hate and bigotry? LOL
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:50pm@ENCINOM
I find it best to resist the urge to judge the character of a group by the actions of individuals within the group.
Not all Muslims are terrorists. Not all blacks are hoodlums. Not all atheists are anti-religion. Not all Democrats are progressives. Not all Tea Partiers are racist. Not all Mormons were polygamists. And so on.
We have gotten lazy by partitioning others into groups, then judging those groups by the actions of individuals. Let’s try not to fall into that trap.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:56pmWhatever. You come here for your personal liberal, anti-Christian agenda without having to actually work blogging at your own site. One no one would visit.
Report Post »marvlus
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:59pmMost Christians are not this way. This is a fringe group.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:07pm@brother_ed
Report Post »Your argument would hold merit if this was an isolated incident. Its not from fire and brimestone preacher in Maryland, to the teachings of Liberty University, to this there is a clear pattern. Regardless of what Christians say, they believe in hate, their actions speak volumnes. Westboro is nothing more than the ugly truth when the mask is removed.
FaithfulFriend
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:13pmWhere do you live, exactly. I want to come to your place so you can give me everything you have in this world because you don’t need it like I need it. Or are you just a hate filled greedy bug to people you don’t agree with?
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:19pmWe ARE sinners Encinoman. We have a savior though, how about you?
Report Post »DoseofReality
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:26pmMarvlus…I wish you werre correct, I truly do. But it has been my experience lately that this type of behavior and feelings are the rule, not the exception. Just look at the posts here, look at the posts on virtually every right wing site where anything religious issue, gay issue, black issue, etc comes up and you will see what Enicom and I see. I see an awful lot of hate and judgment, not much forgiveness and love.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:39pm@ENCINOM
My response came up as a different comment , not a reply – I hit the wrong button.
So here it is again:
You are correct. Sadly,this type of rhetoric seems to be more prevalent, or at least more publicized, than previously.
I said in another article:
If all I knew about Christianity was gleaned from the posts on this web site, I would have no desire to join a church.
I still stand by my original comment: Resist the urge to judge the group.
Sorry for the duplicate post.
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:40pmDoseofreality – And you leftists aren’t hateful and judgmental while preaching tolerance, diversity, and all of that other BS? LOL
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:58pmWestboro has serious issues.
Report Post »DoseofReality
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:33pmGit-R-Done….so preaching for understanding and tolerance and diversity are bad? I guess its more christian to be intolerant, hateful and seeing “others” are bad? No wonder church attendance is plummeting. Do yourself and your church a favor and listen to Brother Ed. he seems to have it together. You are doing so much damage to your church but your too follish to see it.
Report Post »phillyatheist
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:39pmMEYVN – more like serious competition. seems as though their particular brand of hate is spreading across Jesusland.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 3:40pmMeyvn
Report Post »Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:58pm
Westboro has serious issues.
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