Your Quick Guide — Vetting the Potential Picks for Vice President
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As Mitt Romney stands poised to claim the Republican presidential nomination after a hard-fought primary race, speculation abounds as to who he may choose to stand by his side as he battles President Obama in the general election. Some have suggested Florida Senator Marco Rubio is a shoe-in, while a jovial Senator John McCain jested that Sarah Palin should be given a second go-around in a vice presidential run.
The Romney campaign may seek a more low-key approach with its vice presidential pick than did the McCain camp with its maverick, Sarah Palin. Thus, strategists wager it will be a choice tempered by balance and pragmatism, rather than sensationalism.
But in retrospect, both Palin and Biden complimented their running mates by providing attributes the other lacked. In Obama’s case, Biden provided experience. In McCain’s case, Palin provided energy and youthfulness combined with conservatism. Such counter-balancing is typically sought in a vice presidential pick.
While providing balance is crucial in any vice presidential candidate, the ability to deliver battleground states such as Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida are perhaps what count most in this particular election. But it is not enough to just be from a swing state — the candidate would have to offer a probability of actually delivering it. In short, the person chosen will likely bring both balance and a swing-state to the table.
How times for a vice president have changed
Historically, the office of vice president was one often decried by some of its very inhabitants for the lack of responsibility entrusted in the second-in-command. It was perhaps not until Richard Nixon and later, George H.W. Bush and Dick Cheney, that a vice president quietly, in times of need, truly played a hands-on role in helping to steer the course of the nation.
Today, the office is considered an honor and a privilege as well as a stepping stone to the presidency itself. But so little did politicians of yesteryear think of the role, that John Nance Garner, Franklin D. Roosevelt’s first vice president, is reported to have described the office “not worthy of a pitcher of warm p*ss.” Likewise, David Webster turned down a vice presidential offer with the comment, “I do not intend to be buried until I am dead.”
Shockingly, these remarks came after decades of improvement in the perception and treatment of the vice president. This was made painfully apparent by Garret Hobart, vice president under President William McKinley, who managed to eke out the unofficial title “assistant to the president.” As the late Herbert Klein of AEI pointed out, that was an exception “never repeated.”
Aside from a few spotty invitations over the course of decades, no subsequent vice president ever even attended cabinet meetings until Franklin D. Roosevelt raised the cache of the office by inviting Vice Presidents Garner and later, Henry Wallace and Harry Truman to attend cabinet meetings.
In retrospect, such a policy of exclusion seems counterproductive given the fact that the vice president must step in and lead should the sitting president be rendered unable. It would have made sense, one would think, for a vice president to have been made privy to cabinet meetings. Nonetheless, that is how the office once functioned. Conversely, in today’s day and age, the vice president is a celebrity of his or her own. And speculation surrounding vice presidential short lists are almost as interesting to the public as the actual presidential nomination.
Which brings us back to the present day…
What the Romney campaign will look for
Romney possesses the business acumen and executive experience typically sought in presidential candidates. What some members of his base claim he lacks, however, are deeply conservative credentials. Other factors to weigh against the candidate for vice president include age, ability to actually lead in the event he or she takes over the presidency, and ability to be an effective campaigner.
Many feel the best bets for this selection are from the ranks of governors, but geography (swing states), political prowess and philosophy, along with strength are all key factors in the selection process.
After reviewing the potential candidates below, be sure to head over to The Blaze Blog to vote for your pick in our GOP “Veepstakes” poll.
Present day contenders
Marco Rubio – The son of Cuban exiles, few have generated more vice presidential buzz than
freshman Florida Senator Marco Rubio. His popularity suggests he has what it takes to deliver Florida’s large number of electoral votes and would put the state on the map for spawning its first vice president in history. Another impetus for a potential Rubio-pick may also be certain pitfalls the GOP seeks to compensate for — namely in its appeal to women and minority voters. Bear in mind John McCain, despite his popularity among Hispanics and his long record supporting immigration reform, still fared abysmally among Hispanic voters in the 2008 election compared to Obama. Given his Tea Party credentials, Hispanic heritage and potential to swing Florida in Romney’s favor, Marco Rubio is on nearly everyone’s short list.
Allen West– One of the less touted but perhaps more intriguing choices for vice president, freshman Congressman Allen West offers a variety of attributes that could potentially balance Romney’s resume effectively. A favorite among Tea Party members and everyday Republicans alike, West represents a significant Florida district encompassing West Palm Beach, Boca Raton and most of Fort Lauderdale. He has earned credibility for going toe-to-toe with the liberal establishment and has been an outspoken opponent of fellow Florida legislator and Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz. With a long tradition of service to run his family, West would also lend substantial military prowess to a Romney administration. Ultimately achieving the rank of lieutenant colonel, West served in the United States Army for more than 20 years of active duty service, including several combat deployments in Iraq. As an African-American, West has never shied away from issues of race, often breaking with his own Congressional Black Caucus when its members engaged in race-baiting and other tactics with which he disagrees.
Rob Portman – Currently a junior senator from Ohio, Portman is slowly becoming the speculated-
favorite among media pundits. This may very well be due to his potential to deliver Ohio combined with his straightforward nature and ability to speak frankly on difficult issues. Portman served as congressman for the state’s 2nd congressional district, which includes the Cincinnati suburbs, from 1993 to 2005. He began his career campaigning for President George H. W. Bush and served in his administration as a legislative liaison until he became Director of the White House Office of Legislative Affairs. Before joining the ranks of the Senate, Portman authored or co-authored over a dozen bills while in the House that became law, including legislation to reform the Internal Revenue Service. Pete Sepp of the National Taxpayers Union said, “He set a professional work environment that rose above partisanship and ultimately gave taxpayers more rights.” Portman voted for the Ryan Budget.
Nikki Haley– South Carolina Governor Nimrata Nikki Randhawa Haley, or simply, Nikki Haley, is one of the few women currently being discussed as a potential pick for vice president. At age 40, Haley is the youngest current governor in the country and the first woman to serve as governor of her state. Haley, once a favorite among Tea Party members, lost support after endorsing Romney but there is still the chance she could curry favor with the group once more and even win them to Romney’s side. An accountant by trade, Haley likely grasps issues important to business owners as she worked in her own family business, an upscale clothing firm, which reportedly grew into a multi-million dollar company. She is the daughter of Sikh immigrants from Punjab, India, and has been a tough critic of illegal immigration. She also supports a law requiring that voters present photo identification at the polls.
Bob McDonnell– Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell lends executive experience and
military background to the table. Head of the Republican Governors’ Association, the former Virginia
Attorney General has been on pundits‘ and strategists’ radars as an interesting choice for vice president. Perhaps a nod to his conservative credentials, McDonnell held his ground amid fierce criticism from the left over signing a bill requiring Virginia women to have an ultrasound prior to undergoing an abortion. He has waived off the criticism, saying candidly that Democrats use social issues to detract from the most important matters at hand, which, for McDonnell, is the economy.
Mitch Daniels – Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels is one of the more seasoned candidates currently being vetted. Serving the Bush administration as director of the Office of Management and Budget, Daniels was also a member of the National Security Council and the Homeland Security Council. The governor is currently on an eight-day trip to Israel, which will reportedly include a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The move could indicate that Daniels is considering a run for higher office.
Paul Ryan – The young House superstar could potentially deliver
Wisconsin, a swing state, and is slated to be chairman of the Ways and Means Committee in 2015. While the position is not one he would acquire if he were to be elected alongside Romney, the nod still speaks highly of his abilities. Ryan is also a key player in one of the largest issues of the day — the budget — and put a spotlight on the GOP’s role in seeking solutions to the matter.
Chris Christie – The man on everyone’s radar, Chris Christie has become a larger-than-life figure for what many view is his effective leadership and frank, plainspoken manner. While some on the right do not consider Christie conservative enough, he has still managed to garner a dedicated following among Republicans. Strategists believe, however, that for as popular as he is, the New Jersey Governor will not be able to deliver his home state in the general election. There is also the perception among some conservatives that Christie leans moderate, and therefore would not provide enough balance to Romney’s stance on any number of issues. These issues combined diminish Christie’s chance at gaining the nod
Condoleezza Rice – A wild card and one who does not yet appear interested in a vice presidential
tap, conservatives could argue that there would be no better choice for second-in-command than the former Secretary of State. Ironically, far-left activist Van Jones couldn’t agree more. While some might consider her association with the Bush administration a negative, her decades-long foreign policy experience and role as a diplomat and stateswoman lend her the background and credibility voters could be confident in. As a woman and an African-American, Condi Rice also provides the diversity any campaign would crave.
Tim Pawlenty– The former Minnesota governor endorsed Romney shortly after he bowed out of the race himself. While viewed a safe choice for his loyalty and executive experience, strategists believe Pawlenty would not generate enough excitement with the GOP base nor would he effectively rally independents.
Sarah Palin – John McCain recently joked that Romney should consider giving former Alaska
Governor Sarah Palin another go. While the former vice presidential candidate has name recognition and Tea Party prowess — along with a socially conservative bend — it is unlikely she would be tapped by Romney to be his running mate in 2012.
Rick Santorum – Primary rivals often make for obvious running mates. Such is the case for former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum. The Romney rival could prove a beneficial vice presidential choice as his social conservatism would balance Romney’s more moderate bent. With few other viable options who could potentially deliver the swing state, Santorum could also very well turn Pennsylvania red in a general election.
In nearly every presidential election cycle, speculation on vice presidential choices tends to run amok — and sometimes, the ultimate choice ends up being none of the usual suspects at all. While there is always the potential to play a wild card, such a drastic move seems unnecessary for a candidate as measured as Romney. It is likely Republicans will seek to rally their base and energize the electorate with a conservative who can deliver either Pennsylvania, Ohio or Florida. That being said, a candidate from a minority, or who offers strong military background, would provide the seemingly perfect compliment to Romney’s executive and private sector experience.



















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Inlightofthings
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:08amTIM
Report Post »Romneys day ran AMC for a while, didn’t they name a car after you?
Patrick Henry II
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:29amRand Paul.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:33amLet’s hope Romney picks one who knows the Queen does not run England and who the Fed is. But of course let’s not confuse the potential candidates and their supporters.
Report Post »bbellew3
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:06pmI think that Romney need to take a very hard look at Bobby Jindal. Jindal’s resume is extremely impressive — Rhodes Scholar and an incredible amount of experience at both the national & state levels.
Jindal would plug all the holes that Romney has with the conservative base — southern, a social conservative who is a religious Catholic but also popular with evangelical voters. Think Rick Santorum without the self-righteousness. Jindal is also a very, very intelligent guy and a policy wonk who would debate circles around Joe Biden — think Gingrich without the baggage and abrasiveness.
Additionally, Jindal backed Rick Perry in the primary. Picking Jindal would be seen as a strong jesture to unite the GOP and demonstrate that Romney is not going to play petty politics moving forward.
A Romney-Jindal ticket would put together two very competent men with executive and private sector experience. Both have a track record of “fixing things”. In Jindal‘s case his work under Governor Mike Foster fixing the state’s health system, and as governor himself turning around the Louisiana economy after Katrina, raising the state’s credit rating and his success managing disaster situations — Hurricane Gustav and the Gulf oil spill.
Like Marco Rubio. Jindal is a young man with a compelling story. He is only three years older than Rubio, but is far more experienced in government. He would also add a little ethnic flair to the ticket –not just another establishme
Report Post »Onowicit
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:53pmIt will be a women or an (African American) (black) (whatever)………has to be……ya wont to bet
I predict Condi
I will put all of my supply of Kraft cheese, coca cola and coupons to Arbeys on it!
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on April 7, 2012 at 10:26pmIt doesn’t matter because Romney will never be our President. Republicans are cowards, you mine as well vote in Obama if you want Romney. Your all such a waste of space.
Report Post »TAXEVERYONE
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:58amI’m glad none of you windbags get to pick.
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on April 7, 2012 at 2:29pmWe are the “new green energy plan”…..WIND. (No taxpayer monies used)
Report Post »Have a great day.
cemerius
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:50amMarco Rubio WILL NOT be selected!! Romeny will need a good partner but the fact the marco had a short stint as a Mormon takes him out of the running…..not that I agree with this but imagine the Demons screaming “the Mormons are coming, the Mormons are coming”?!?!
I actually wasn‘t going to read this article after the second sentence mentioning McCain’s opinion!!! “jovial Senator John McCain jested” a slug has more emotion then this dinosaur!!!!
Report Post »Luke611
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:49pmCemerius….
impressive, my thoughts exactly
These individuals will also make notable cabinet selections. Palin, Daniels, Rubio, West….etc, all of these could be appointed to a cabinet position that could sustain a conservatism culture for decades…hopefully. I like the idea of Ron Paul over the DOJ. Paul over the DOJ would put the fear of God in every member of the Obama Administration.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:38amI‘m afraid even the best of them wouldn’t be able to help this left leaning moderate beat 0bama. Much of the tea party has allowed the Republican establishment to dupe them into nominating the candidate that they chose before the race ever began.
Romney didn’t even go into his “I’m a conservative” campaign mode until the race was well underway. I can’t believe people actually bought into it. As soon as he is declared the nominee, he will shake that ol’ Etch A Sketch and go right back to being what he has ALWAYS been. without a clear contrast, we’re not going to be able to beat 0bama.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:47amSo, you won’t be voting in the election if Romney is the nominee?
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:54amhe is just pointing out the fact that romney will be exposed. 2008 all over again for the sheepsters
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:58am@cemerius
Report Post »I’ll vote for him to try to get 0bama stopped but a lot of conservatives will simply stay home and a lot of moderates will stick with they have. A lot of Independents will probably stay home also because in spite of what they elites keep saying, Independents tend to vote conservative.
disenlightened
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:59am@QPWILLIE
Report Post »“Romney didn’t even go into his “I’m a conservative” campaign mode until the race was well underway.” You weren’t paying attention. His message hasn’t changed since 2008.
qpwillie
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:12am@disenlightened
Report Post »Romney hasn’t governed since 2007. All we have since then is campaign talk – not a very reliable method by which to choose a president of the USA.
disenlightened
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:17am@QPWILLIE
Report Post »Reagan left governorship in CA in 1975 and ran for president in 1980 – “not a very reliable method by which to choose a president of the USA”?
qpwillie
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:59am@disenlightened
Report Post »Everybody designs campaign speeches to get votes. Just like the new Oxydol is better than the old Oxydol and even that was better than all the other detergents.
Gonzo
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:02amFor the second election in a row, the GOP is looking for a VP candidate that will get conservatives excited. Why exactly can’t we field a Presidential candidate that does that? Nobody voted for Reagan because G.H.W. Bush was his running mate.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:21am@Gonzo
Report Post »Yeah, I fear a running mate is not going to save this moderate. Sometimes, I think the GOP is purposely taking a dive for some reason. I believe the tea party could have overcome them if they hadn’t acted like a bunch of lily-livered sheep. Instead, we threw all the real conservatives aside early on and let somebody else tell them who was “electable”.
mtcountrygrl
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 3:51pmTake heart my friends. Things are good. Last time Romney was the most Conservative in the race at this time. This time around he is the most liberal. Things don’t happen overnight, the country is waking up and trending in the right direction. Plus Romney with the right running mate and a CONSERVATIVE congress, will do great things. He may not author conservative ideas but do you really think he will VETO them. He was not my choice either, but the media convinced the blind voting public he was the only one who could defeat Obama and look at the exit poles. People bought it and they are more affraid of Obama winning than voting on principles. Baby steps the country is waking up.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:35amMarco Rubio is not ready yet, and he knows it. Picking a woman would be portrayed by the Democrats and the MSM as seeking cover for the famous war on women. Allen West would be portrayed as pandering to blacks. McDonnell, Daniels or Christie – you’ll never see two governors on the same ticket. Portman or Pawlenty – too boring. Santorum – are you kidding?
That leaves one man. Young, uplifting, engaging, smart, from a Midwestern swing state and a frontal assault on Obama. A thumb in Barack’s bug eyes. Paul Ryan gets my endorsement.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:43amI’d put my money on Mcdonnell. Mcdonnell worships the ground romney walks on and he is seen as a strong protestant. You know romney will be looking to solidify the ‘religious right”
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:02am@SOYBOMB315
Report Post »McDonnell is a governor. As I said, you’ll never see two governors on the same ticket. Just doesn’t happen.
BelindaB
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:12amAllen West would be the BEST Choice for Vice President !!! I wholeheartedly back Allen West!!! He’s a GREAT AMERICAN!
Report Post »spikebu
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:25amYep.
Report Post »Spedden
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:36amThe best would be Gov Palin and Col West as President and VP
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 1:19pmSPEDDEN
I just spit my coffee all over the screen, that was hilarious.
Report Post »Nobummer
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 1:56pmWest, Rubio or Ryan. They haven’t been in DC long enough to be card carrying, Beltway RINO’s. All of them are smart, outspoken and unafraid. Forget the political punditry, this country is desperate for a conservative with a spine…nothing more, nothing less. The rest will take care of itself. You know the ******** will be going for broke. I would love to see West beat down the rest of the left like he has done with Debbie Whatshername-Putz. Skin color, ethnicity, etc. means squat. Why does any Republican care what the left says or wants. They will never curry favor. Get over it! @theobamanation…I’ll second that.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 4:01pmbarf
Report Post »Concerned Green Beret
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:57amAllen West is the only pick that will help this lowsy nominee to beat Obama. Rubio is not eligible. He is not a natural born citizen. I don’t know why people are ignoring that fact. I know why the dems are, because if he becomes the nominee that will be a battle cry against him. I really wish Rubio was eligible because he would make an awesome VP and President. But Allen West will be just as awesome if not more so. He has life experiences that no one on the Obama team has. He is agressive against the commie media propaganda, and he is extremely well spoken and cogent in his arguements. Lastly, he is a real constitutional conservative that is fearless against the subversives. I truly do not believe any other VP candidate brings value added to a Romney campaign.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:30amRubio is a son of exiles, not illegals…Theres a marked difference here. Besides, he was born in 1971 in Miami, Fl. that makes him an American. If Illegals can claim the same rights for their children and them staying here, Liberals down have a leg to stand on in confronting Rubio’s birth place here.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:10am@ apple
you seem to either ignore, or refuse to comprehend the difference between citizen, and NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
rubios parents were not citizens at the time of his birth thus he is not a nbc he is a citizen because he was born in the US but since his parents were still cuban citizens at THE TIME OF HIS BIRTH he is NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
really not a difficult concept , but you would have to understand the root of the requirement and history
Report Post »HuskerDave
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:41amPsychosis. Actually, simply being born on U.S. soil makes one a natural born citizen. That matter was long-ago decided.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:05amHuskerDave
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:41am
Psychosis. Actually, simply being born on U.S. soil makes one a natural born citizen. That matter was long-ago decided.
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“One universal point most all early publicists agreed on was natural-born citizen must mean one who is a citizen by no act of law. If a person owes their citizenship to some act of law (naturalization for example), they cannot be considered a natural-born citizen. This leads us to defining natural-born citizen under the laws of nature – laws the founders recognized and embraced.”
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Rubio needs the assistance of the 14th Amendment to be recognized as a citizen of the U.S…….therefore, it is impossible for Rubio to be a natural born citizen.
Before the 14th Amendment, each individual state (or colony under the Articles of Confederation) determined citizenship and since there was absolutely no question that citizenship was automatically conferred to the child of two citizens, then this is where the term “natural born” originates from.
Report Post »WEBWITHDEB
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 4:06pmAgree with those who KNOW what a natural born citizen is (Hint: How were you “naturally born”?). My theory is that the Dems want Rubio to be the VP nominee, as then they have two options going for them:
1. Not protest Rubio’s nomination, thereby giving Obama’s ineligibility per his supposed birth certificate as the “new” standard for presidential eligibility, albeit unConstitutional.
2. Protest Rubio’s nomination on the issue of not being a natural born citizen, and whip out the “October surprise” of Obama’s “real” birth certificate showing that his father was not, in fact, Obama Sr., but rather a citizen — a la Franklin Marshall Davis — being his father, and garner the sympathy votes of all the closet pedophiles, single mothers, and truth-be-darned folks.
I agree with Patrick Henry II that Rand Paul may at least lead some libertarians to the GOP ticket.
Report Post »fl352
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 4:30pmRice, Rubio, West; anyone of the three would make a strong GOP ticket.
Rubio is most certainly eligible to be VP or President, his parents were Resident Aliens when he was born in Miami in 1971.
Under the Fourteenth Amendment, “all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the states wherein they reside.”
Report Post »WEBWITHDEB
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 4:47pmCitizenship is conferred upon anyone born in the U.S. (native), or anyone who goes through the legal procedure of naturalization.
BEING A CITIZEN IS NOT THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENT FOR THESE TWO HIGHEST OFFICES PER OUR CONSTITUTION!
“Natural born” citizenship is the requirement of being either President or Vice-President, which is a higher standard than citizenship in general. Educate yourself with facts, not emotion.
Report Post »capelady
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:28pmWhat AppleBite doesn‘t appear to understand is that it does not matter if Rubio’s parents were exiles or illegals – the question is whether they were CITIZENS when he was born, because if they were not, then he does not qualify as “natural born” citizen according to the Constitution. This is why Obama’s birthplace is actually irrelevant, because there is no pretense that his father was ever an American citizen, so he is not eligible. Unfortunately, this same question must be asked of Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley…. and I have heard there is some concern that Rick Santorum’s father may not have been a citizen at the time of his birth – he came here from Italy and returned there to die, and I have read that Santorum has been unwilling to present his father’s naturalization papers, but I don’t know if that is true. So, I guess the question is whether Obama’s presidency has established a precedence now where this requirement will be ignored? It appears so because nobody in the GOP or media is discussing this in the light of these possible VP candidates.
Report Post »Concerned Green Beret
Posted on April 7, 2012 at 6:41amSee, this is why we are so screwed. We got the ignorant voting in this country. Ignorance is the death nail of a republic. Kiss our republic good bye. People are actually arguing the commie talking points on what constitutes a Natural Born Citizen. “oh you just need to be born in the US”. People think before you open your mouths or at least do some research. A NBC is one who is born to two US citizen parents on Sovereign American soil (not just in the Continental United States). That means if your parents were US citizens and you were born in an Americna Embassy or a US Military Base abroad to two US Citizen parents you are a NBC. Now for the ignorants out there, do you really believe the founders would have put the requirement to be a NBC to become president in the Constitution only to mean just born in the US. That would make children born to illegals eligible to be president. Now just how stupid is that?????? President and Vice President are the only two elected positions in the US that have that requirement. Now Think!!!! Now go do some freakin research on international law at the time of the radification of the constitution and read what the freakin founders wrote on the subject, before you post some damn commie jibberish you hear on media matters, huff post, cnn, nbc, abc, msnbc, the college newspaper in your hometown, the pop radio station in your area, the frat boys on ESPN, the DNC, the local union boss, Al Sharpton, Howard Dean, Castro, Chavez, etc.
Report Post »gottalovem
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:06amThese liberal Paul supporters are really grasping hot air at this point. He just wants attention..has zero chance.
Romney should pick a successful governor, any one who would be a huge contrast to the buffoon Joe Biden. The VP needs to be president qualified. He will stay away from self promoter Sarah Palin…she would energize the Democrats to vote against his ticket instead of Obama’s. Rand Paul?…give us a break!
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:41amGiven Ron Paul’s sordid history regarding race relations in America, particularly the derogatory statements about minorities (especially Blacks) and Jews published in his longtime newsletter which apparently he has dismissed as bad management on his part (lol), and pandering to racists, bigots and anti-semites, it’s not surprising that Rand Paul, right after winning the Senate primary in Kentucky, immediately said that he didn’t agree with the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Since Rand is close to his father and shares the same quasi-conservative libertarian philosophy, he should be as much marginalized as his “old” man… starting right now…
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:11amRand Paul is not his father. And making such assumptions is the exact reason why we have this clown in office today! Rand is the only one of the ones not mentioned to have a budget that will fix this crap we’re wadding around in. Using Ron Paul to marginalize Rand, is about as dumb as me calling you a kook, because you came from your fathers lions.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:22am“a free society will abide unofficial, private discrimination, even when that means allowing hate-filled groups to exclude people based on the color of their skin.”On May 19, 2010, Paul stated that he favors 9 out of 10 titles of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but had he been a senator during 1960s, he would have raised some questions on the constitutionality of Title II of the Act, which prohibits private businesses who provide public accommodations from discriminating on the basis of race, religion, or national origin against their customers, arguing that it infringes upon constitutional freedoms.
Yeah…..because he has concerns about Title II, that makes him a nutcase….
Rand for VP!!
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:39ami would be mad if he picked a paul – and i’m glad ron and rand are not on the list. Romney deserves a moderate like himself
According to the freedom index, ron paul is the best congressman and rand paul is the best senator. Even though romney is a businessman, economic freedom is not a big concern for him.
Report Post »http://www.thenewamerican.com/files/Freedom_Index_112-2.pdf
Baddoggy
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:32amThese liberal Paul supporters? The first 4 words of your post shows your stupidity. When the hell is the adherance to the Constitution being liberal you stupid fk?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:41amAPPLE. Rand Paul made the same basic statement that his old man has made, then when under pressure from Conservatives… had to spin it away as a property rights issue and back pedal from his original intent as many like me see it. You go ahead and deny that racism and anti-semitism exists within the Murray Rothbard/Lew Rockwell/Ron Paul brand of libertarianism which has infected son Rand. The APPLE doesn’t fall far from the libertarian tree…
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:14amBut picking Rand wouldn’t be based on something as simple as Social concerns. His economic plan is simply the best there is and trumps Paul Ryan’s plan by far. If you read the two of them and compare, there’s no question which one the Senators and Progressives in D.C. fear the most. Thats why they went for Paul Ryan’s plan and eventually voted it down.
Report Post »Which sounds better to you: 1 year 500 Billion or 10 years 6.2 Trillion?
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:49amAPPLE. I wasn‘t completely happy with Ryan’s budget recommendation/plan, but I was less happy with Rand Paul doing a Ron Paul. Rand will not be a team player, and will start to be marginalized just like dear old dad… now and in the future…
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:03am@TIME Why are you so afraid of Ron Paul? Are you sucking off the government dole?
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Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:19amASHES. LOL. I see danger and run towards it. Not scared at all. Ron Paul, his ideology, his anti–Americanism, his acolytes like you are subversives and a danger to this country almost on par with Obama. Not quite, but close.
Scared? Me? Naw. I run towards danger. You cowards will isolate yourselves and subvert, subvert, subvert.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:12amTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:41am
Given Ron Paul’s sordid history regarding race relations in America, particularly the derogatory statements about minorities (especially Blacks) and Jews
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Then he should fit right in with the rest of the Abraham Lincoln crew of Republicans then:
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Report Post »“I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality.”
-Abraham Lincoln, Debate at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln%E2%80%93Douglas_debates
West Coast Patriot
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 12:48pmTime_2 is a traitor to the Constitution and always will be. A waste of skin who’s hatred drives his life. With such hatred in a person, it would not surprise me if someday he kills someone for no apparant reason. Why don;t you do everyone a favor and go to counseling.
Report Post »Airgun
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 5:13amDid the writer of this column actually say that Biden brought “experience” to the ticket?????
Report Post »Experience in what, exactly????
Making a total ass of himself and talking out of his every time he speaks????
piper60
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:22amBiden is a walking, talking insurance policy for Obama.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:44amHe’s got Dr. Pepper’s vote.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:52amHe does an excellent job acting as dumb as a box of rocks. If he didn’t step on his ____ every time he spoke there would be no political humor at all.
Report Post »Simonne
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 5:11amRubio is best pick. Sarah & West out. Ryan & Mitt have great chemistry but Dems would really attack him as they already are. Christie couldn’t deliver NJ & can’t have 2 candidates from the North East. McDonnel is good but wouldn’t create much excitement & the ultrasound bill would further alienate women voters. Santorum remarks have really hurt Mitt & the party & women have left in droves. Portman, don’t know much about him & don’t know if he could carry Ohio. Haley, I actually think she really doesn’t want it & had lost her popularity even before she endorsed Mitt. As much as I like Rubio for vp, I know there‘s a good chance Mitt won’t pick him. He will pick someone who is well qualified & who he is comfortable with. One thing for sure, Mitt is a very decent man & will pick a very decent vp.
Report Post »Fortunate One
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 4:45amLTC Allen West would provide a necessary balance to Romney with knowledge, military experience, much needed excitement for the ticket, would be a great debater, is not afraid of tackling the race issue and would possibly sway a percentage of minority voters away from Obama. He is not afraid to speak the truth, even if it is not politically correct. He is a favorite of the Tea Party and would be tough as nails against the progressives’ attacks of Romney and the GOP. West commented that being in Washington is just another battle and is nothing compared to being shot at. He is a true American Hero and leader who said that “he would walk through Hell with a gasoline can” if it meant he could save his men. I believe that he would walk through fire to help save our country and her people. I think that he would help to garner respect for America again from other countries and restore our credibility on the worldwide stage.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:07amHe voted for NDAA…No thanks.
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Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:54amBADDOGGY is one of those “bunker mentality Vets for Paul”… paranoid and scared of his own shadow. An avid Alex Jones acolyte who probably goes around the neighborhood burying ammo and C-Rations along with driving back roads in the dark/ lights off… avoiding Law Enforcement.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 4:10amAny of them would be FAR better than Obama/Biden
OMG 2012!
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:23amCAT, I think Biden has been an embarassment to Obama with all his gaffes. I wouldn’t be surprised if he chose someone else, another puppet or someone with his strong socialist/Marxist/ communist beliefs.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 4:06amRandal Howard “Rand” Paul (born January 7, 1963) is the junior United States Senator for Kentucky. He is a member of the Republican Party. A member of the Tea Party movement, he describes himself as a “constitutional conservative” and a libertarian. He is the son of Republican Congressman and 2012 Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul of Texas and had never previously held political office. Paul first received national attention in 2008 when making political speeches on behalf of his father. Rand Paul is the first United States Senator in history to serve alongside a parent in the United States House of Representatives.
A graduate of the Duke University School of Medicine, Paul has been a practicing ophthalmologist in Bowling Green, Kentucky, since 1993, and established his own clinic in December 2007. In 1994, he founded Kentucky Taxpayers United, of which he is still the chairman.
In 2010, Paul ran as the Republican candidate for the United States Senate seat being vacated by retiring Senator Jim Bunning of Kentucky and defeated Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway. As a supporter of the Tea Party movement, Paul has been vocal in advocating for term limits, a balanced budget amendment, and the Read the Bills Act, in addition to the widespread reduction of federal spending and taxation. He has gained prominence for his independent positions on many political issues, often clashing with both Republicans and Democrats.
-Wikipedia
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Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:09amhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.frumforum.com%2Fthe-conservative-case-against-rand-paul http://The+Conservative+Case+Against+Rand+Paul/#.T37Aepm1ESQ.twitter via @AddThis
Report Post »MS-GlenNBC
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 3:08amSome one buy this boy a Coat and Tie… You are running for President of the United States…
Maybe the reason so many Romney Supporters think Romney looks Presidential is because he dresses like Obama… (just one of the many similarities)
Open collar, No Tie, No Jacket, Sleeves Rolled up, Blue Jeans..
Is Romney is running for President or General Manager of The Home Depot?
Dress the Part you Fool!
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:47ami hear romney was talking about how “out of touch” obama is….
I see they both dress and talk the same
Report Post »loneindividual
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:43amRAND PAUL
And I do like Allen West and Paul Ryan.
Marco has said no
Condi has said no
Chris has said no
WHY WOULD WE ASK ANY GOVERNOR TO TO BECOME A NOBODY!?!?!
Rand Paul is the only guy among all of these potential vp’s that can find employment OUTSIDE OF WASHINGTON.
LIBERTARIANS ARE IDIOTS FOR NOT PUSHING THIS!!!!
Listen…Ron is gonna lose…you better ****ing shill for a Paul VP or no one will ever listen. YOU HAVE TO BE STUPID TO PASS UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER YOUR AGENDA.
If Romney is your enemy then infiltrate his administration and expose him.
If Romney is a good man….then you will find yourselves in a unique position to fight tyranny anyhow.
I’m a Conservative Libertarian DEIST-EXMORMON
DO IT IDIOTS!
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 3:46amI highly doubt Rand would tie his neck to this fail train about to roll down the tracks. He will run in 2016 if Obama allows there to be a vote.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 3:47amThank you for saying it before me. Rand Paul is the absolute best choice for VP, during this time of our history…
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:09amRand paul would be an excellent choice.
Report Post »loneindividual
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:16amRand Paul is simply the best pick among them all.
Here are the reasons:
clean midst the filth of DC
pure in the ways of liberty
proven prowess & intellect
He is his father’s son.
ps: sane compared to everyone else…including his dad.
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Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:27amRand Paul has hijacked the Tea Party movement to appropriate it to his family’s radical brand of libertarianism. Led by Lew Rockwell and Thomas Woods, two of Ron Paul’s most prominent boosters, the ‘paleo-libertarian’ movement that the Pauls belong to has done a pretty good job of hiding its fringe elements from the eye of the mainstream media and the broader public.
Rand Paul has not been as active as his father in this movement, but from the available evidence, we know that at the very least, he is a fellow-traveler. Paul is on record as believing in a conspiracy to create a “North American Union,” warning ominously of the imminence of a new currency called the “amero.” Wouldn‘t have voted for the Civil Rights Act of ’64 like his Father. He regularly sits down to chat with radio talk show host Alex Jones, a man who believes that the United States government is behind 9/11. Rockwell, infamous for his pro-Confederate views, has been boosting Rand Paul since the start, and has sat down to interview him.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:40amRand Paul is too short – in height and career. Not going to happen.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:51amno, rand paul is a prize cow and they would grind him up into republican sausage. we dont need rand paul going around the country talking about how amazing romney is and how great his policies are.
rand paul should stick to telling the truth as a senator. He will probably either make a run for president in 2014 or go back to being a doctor.
In just one term in the senate, he has established himself as the most constitutional senator – just like his father in the house of representatives
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soybomb315
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:57amyea, 2016
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:01amI do like Rand Paul
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:40amChris Christie vetted:
http://conservativenewjersey.com/the-myth-of-christie-conservatism-intro
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:39amAllen West vetted:
FAKE-TEA GOP
Report Post »Pigford fraud
Tribalist, separatist Congressional BLACK Caucus
Debt ceiling hikes
NDAA
H.R. 347 (protest ban)
“Patriot” Act
Undeclared nation-building
RepubliCorp
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 3:54amNeoLib Paul supporters really need to go to the demorat party. It’s a much better fit.
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Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:01amREPUBLICORP. They’re 3/4 of the way there because they certainly aren’t Conservatives. Quasi-cons with mostly Dem talking points to round out their platform. They do take great pride in bashing Conservatives. And people wonder why they disgust me so…
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:46amTIME_4_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12:
Report Post »1) “Quasi-cons with mostly Dem talking points to round out their platform” sound JUST LIKE your typical fake-conservative republicans attempting to coerce naive Americans into voting for the lesser evil again. (Beck/Hannity/Rush/Levin/etc.)
2) Ron Paul supporters don’t bash “conservatives,” they bash FAKE-conservatives.
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:06amSMITH. You’re jokester. The liberal leaning, Dem Party talking point advocates called Ron Paul supporters make it their business to trash Republicans and Conservatives on a daily basis. I make it my business to trash ya’ll and your leader…
Report Post »obxpatriot
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:48amI agree, Allen West lost me when he voted to continue funding the Pigford settlement, then claimed he didn’t realize what is was all about!
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:54amTIME_4_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12,
Yeah, one constant, is the FAKE-conservatives who can NEVER, EVER, EVER refute ANY of my comments… and having to resort to progressive Alinskyite tactics of REDIRECTING conversation into childish, baseless lies and name-calling. And will then… INVERT reality, and suggest that I am… WHAT THEY ARE.
But I WELCOME “corrections”… if you have any.
Report Post »bay horse 1
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:09pmDo not let West any closer to the Whit House to do any thing other than mow the grass or wash the lime….Hell he is just another “Black RINO”
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:39amLeftist Paul Ryan vetted:
TARP (which ignited the Tea Party AGAINST HIM)
Report Post »Auto Bailouts
Economic Stimulus 2008
ADDITIONAL Economic Stimulus 2009
Debt ceiling hikes
Comprehensive immigration reform without amnesty (AMNESTY)
Socialized employment (extending UC)
Socialized education (No Child Left Behind)
Socialized medicine (Medicare Prescription Drug “benefits”)
Socialized housing (Section 8 vouchers)
Head Start
4th shattering “Patriot” Act
NDAA
Nation-building
MORE nation-building
H.R. 347 (protest chilling)
soybomb315
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:52amlooks like he is perfect for romney
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:38amMarco “tsunami of 2010” Rubio vetted:
Isolationist nation-building
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Cosponsored PIPA (until it became politically unpopular)
NDAA
NEW Dream Act
Supports Romney for 2012
WEBWITHDEB
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 4:17pmPlease, please, please, do not ignore the ineligibility of Rubio not being a natural born citizen.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:37amLeftist Romney vetted:
NDAA
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Bankrolled by the SAME TOP CONTRIBUTORS AS OBAMA
Touchback Amnesty.
Hired illegal alien criminals (and DAMN WELL knew it).
Compulsory Romneycare (partially funded by feds – unconstitutional)
Romneycare-funded illegal alien criminal healthcare
Undeclared Nation-building
4th Amendment rejecting “Patriot” Act
Big tax, big spend
Global warming
Cap and trade
Supported TARP
Supported the Brady Bill and Assault Weapons ban
Notorious Flip-flopper
Supports Private Federal Reserve
Assassinate citizens without Due Process
libertylover55
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:38amYou are not telling the full truth on these candidates. You need to look at the full picture –not just lists by people who have an agenda. Check into WHY not just what they supposedly did. Let’s face it. You have an agenda. You are upset because your man is not doin g well.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 1:59pmOh, I could not give a damn… “why.” I don’t care if they “had to take one for the team.” I don’t care if they say their unconstitutional legislation is “intended” to do such-n-such. Or… “I didn’t know” such-n-such. My ONLY concern is the violation (crime) itself.
And “my guy” is doing just fine, EVEN WITH THE UNPRECEDENTED leftist Establishment republican party’s cheating. Whether “my guy” wins or loses, 2011-2012 will be historical. Your great grandchildren will read about Ron Paul’s fight for liberty and the Establishment snakes (and their media – FOX, MSNBC, Clearchannel, CNN, etc.) attempt to smother Constitutional liberty. They will read about the last gasp of a dying Establishment media collapsing of it’s own corruption. And ONE name will ring loudly from that chapter… Ron Paul.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:37amLeftist Santorum vetted:
NDAA
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Undeclared nation-building
Foreign welfare
Private Federal Reserve
Interventionist (with no military service) = “chicken hawk”
“Patriot” Act (smashes the 4th Amendment)
Sonia Sotomayor
Voted for Sarbanes-Oxley, but now claims to want it repealed
No Child Left Behind (socialist education)
Medicare prescription drug benefits (socialist medicine)
NEA (socialized arts)
Assassinating Americans without Due Process
Lautenberg Gun Ban
Mandate locks on handguns
Federal background checks at gun shows
Multiple debt ceiling increases
2005 “Bridge to Nowhere”
Unconstitutional “war” on drugs
Endorsed Arlen Spector (key vote for Obamacare)
Endorsed Romney 08
Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 3:11amEverybody you wouldn’t consider a leftist vetted: they can’t win because they would have to be so far to the right that less than 5% of the general electorate would want to vote for them.
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:34amSarah Palin….like Cheney she could handle the president when the going got tough.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 1:25pmWell that depends on how much she could write down on her hand.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 1:26pmWhen going got tough, she quit.
Report Post »Bill Brasky
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:25amNone of them wll matter. Romney will lose the nomination, assuming the establishment succeeds once again in pushing the phony “ineveitability” argument, and successfully avoids a brokered convention. The Republicans will not win unless they nominate Paul, and don’t deserve to.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 3:47amPaul only wins straw polls and his only talent is gathering nuts.
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Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:30amPaul, like his father, does not believe in the American exceptionalism of Ronald Reagan’s variety. Paul’s America… one in which the Federal Reserve magically disappears overnight, one in which America retains no global military presence… is utterly oblivious to the economic and military realities of the 21st century. It is oblivious to the changes that globalization is demanding of us and it is oblivious to the military and cultural threats of Islamic fanaticism.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:06amamerican exceptionalism is not that we go around the world telling other countries what to do
american exceptionalism is our individualism and self-sufficient nature. with the rise of socialism, we are close to losing it. Both of the Pauls understand this, most republicans do not
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Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:43amSOY. Both the Paul’s are naive isolationists who would gut our Military and cripple our offensive capabilities abroad. A good defense is a great offense.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:22amHey the heck with vetting the candidates, lets give this supposed Ark they found on Mount Ararat a good vetting. Gopher wood equals light, because worm wood is darkness; pitch equals the Word. This Ark they found supposedly has a carbon dating that dates it back 4800 years. It was 14 generations from Abraham to David, 14 generations from David to the Captivity, 14 generations from captivity to Jesus. A generation is 60 years because a “Woman” who is a widower has to wait until she is 60 to remarry. Therefore 14 generations is 840 years. From Abraham to David 840 years, David to Captivity 840 years, Captivity to Jesus 840 years. Well that’s 4532 years since Abraham, and that’s not counting the years that Abraham was known as Abram which is many more. All these things considered, that is surely not the Ark, besides, the Ark isn’t what you think it is.
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Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:24amOh, I meant “Widow” not widower.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:34amAnd now if Noah lived another 350 years after the Great flood, and lets say Noah lived right up to Abraham which he didn’t – then that puts the flood 4532 plus 350 equals 4882, but I’m not adding roughly 500 years. Therefore if that is the Ark on Mount Ararat, your Carbon dating is way off.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 3:08amHow the heck is a generation sixty years? These are actual generations we’re talking about. If you go through the Bible you can make a list of the fourteen names of fathers and sons, grandfathers and grandsons from one guy to another, so a generation is only sixty years if that was the average age of the fathers when their sons were born. In the real world, outside of the Bible, almost nobody lived that long back then. Even in the Bible not everybody lived that long. In the real world of today with our longer life spans, sixty years is still about the maximum possible length of a generation and the average is about thirty. It was about twenty in the real world past.
Report Post »Polarized America
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:54amTim
you forgot to calculate all of the ..Leap Years… now go back and try again ;-)
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 7:00amChet Hempstead,
Report Post »Sure they lived that long, and a generation is 60 years. I should know I’ve been around for 12,000 years.
TheObamanation
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:05amMcCain … please go away …
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on April 7, 2012 at 2:36pm@itsjusttim….really? isn’t it …..Its Just Shirley McLaine? LOL
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