“I was a stranger” is a talking point used by religious amnesty supporters like @JimWallis. What people should do is point out to his supporters how he’s wrong. Why? Because a) a detailed religious argument showing him wrong will mean much more to Wallis’ supporters than to the large number of Obama supporters, b) Wallis is more accessible than Obama, and c) discrediting Wallis will send a shock wave throughout the pro-amnesty religious movement and will send a message straight to Obama.
While a detailed religious argument would work, a much simpler way to discredit Wallis is to show his supporters how he helps *increase* the number of people dying in the desert:
If I’d gotten help with that years ago, we could have prevented amnesty and reduced the border surge. It’s not too late, but people need to learn to do actual work and go out and confront amnesty supporters directly with the goal of showing them wrong (either in person or online). See also the “Stop Amnesty Challenge” for other ways to stop amnesty.
 December 2, 2014 at 1:34pm
That would be a good way to get a small number of lunkheads off the street, but it wouldn’t stop amnesty.
Illegal aliens got what they wanted by developing and implementing a smart plan. They used the media to their advantage, they kept pushing, and they didn’t enable leaders who are just paper tigers.
All I’m asking is that people send out a few tweets. The tweets are designed to have the maximum impact possible, and if enough people send them out it will set in motion a campaign that will stop amnesty.
Even if you’re waiting for something else to happen or doing other things to stop amnesty, at least take out a few minutes and send a few tweets.
 December 2, 2014 at 1:24pm
Amnesty is all about jobs. Illegal aliens who’ll get Obama’s work permits will be able to move up in the job market and compete for jobs they currently don’t compete for.
Immigration is a *fundamental* issue that affects nearly everything else from jobs to voting to traffic to education.
 November 13, 2014 at 1:33pm
What Obama’s doing will be more like the end of the GOP. The 2016 elections will be completely different from the 2014 midterms. Some of those who get Obama’s work permits will vote even though they shouldn’t, and that might be enough to swing some close races. The GOP isn’t going to move to stop Obama’s actions because their funders won’t like it and they’ll buy the lines fed to them about the “Hispanic vote”.
Obama’s amnesty will affect other things too: changing Obamacare is going to be even harder when there are millions of new people in the program.
Whatever your issue is, it’s going to be worsened by Obama’s amnesty. Everyone needs to get together and work on stopping his amnesty right now. This is the best way to do that: http://24ahead.com/stop-amnesty-challenge
All the other plans to stop amnesty have failed, from hanging signs off overpasses to sending FAXes to Congress. That’s the only plan that will actually stop Obama’s amnesty, so get involved.
 November 6, 2014 at 2:31pm
Last month, Cruz came out with StopObamasAmnesty. His plan to do that involved a petition that was mostly just a thinly-veiled attempt to get donations and to bulk up his mailing list. Anyone ever hear what happened with the petition? Whatever happened with it, it hasn’t changed Obama’s plans.
Now, “the letter didn’t say specifically what they might do”. Cruz still has no specific plan.
The only realistic plan to stop amnesty right now is my “Stop Amnesty Challenge”. That can be done right now, and it will work. I just need people to get involved and find someone to go ask politicians questions.
I suggest doing that *now*, instead of waiting around for Ted Cruz to do whatever he plans to do.
April 9, 2013 at 2:37pm
You bet! And, it’s time to strike back. I suggest we start a jihad against the infid… oh, wait.
April 8, 2013 at 1:37pm
Thomas Basile might think that the TP movement started in 2009, but that’s completely false. A Koch-funded group tried to start an *identical* movement in 2002. It didn’t take, but in 2009 it was revived.
That Koch-funded group went on to split into two parts, both of which were very strong supporters of the 2009 version of their invention: AFP and FreedomWorks. Without the help of both groups, most people would probably have never heard of the TPers.
There are various reasons why the TPers are toxic, and the major reason is that Americans have rejected their fringe ideas. While most Americans might call themselves fiscal cons, they don’t actually support fiscal conservatism. They reject the Randroid concepts of the TPers; “47%” is a key reason Mitt lost.
Another reason is their Alinksy tactics: most Americans are decent people and don’t favor those who engage in personal smears, think that ranting is a argument, and so on.
Throughout their history, the TP “patriots” have been led by those who support things like a massive legalization for illegal aliens: Armey, Koch, Rubio, Paul, Cruz, etc. etc. The TP “Patriots” send out missives calling amnesty fan Rand Paul a “hero”. While some TP groups might be OK on amnesty, the base is awfully quiet about those major groups that aren’t.
So, with the TPers you not only get policies that most Americans reject, but now they’re in effect enabling amnesty.
I'm very disturbed by all this talk of "amnesty" by people like yourself.
Let's just examine the issue, shall we?
Does anyone really have problem with the idea that human beings should be free to cross the border at will? As a free American, is it not your right to be able to leave the country when you please, and then to re-enter as you please?
Are you even aware that passports have only been required in America during times of war? The requirement to use a passport didn't become permanent until after WWII.
With that in mind, who cares if people want to come to America for what we have to offer? Is the problem "people coming to America", or is the problem "in America we give people free stuff"?
Right, the problem is we give people free stuff. So, the next question must be, is it a problem only when free stuff goes to immigrants, or is it a problem when ANYONE gets free stuff?
Immigrants aren't a problem unless they get free stuff or unless they break the law. In one case, we have allowed them to become a bigger problem than they are. In the other case, we simply must restore the rule of law to combat any potential issues.
I'm not "pro-amnesty". I'm pro-freedom. The border is a problem of our own making. If immigrants knew they would have to work their butts off to succeed when they got here, we'd see fewer immigrants. We'd only get the hard workers.
If your facts are 'straight' then the history you are referring to is so twisted it only has a passing resemblance to reality.
The Koch brothers had nothing to do with the founding of the modern Tea Party. It has only one main root and that is in complete opposition to government overreach, this is why it is called the Tea Party, it's a message to the US Government that the people can rise up again and tell the King "No Taxation without Representation". The fundamental point is that our representatives are now in full blown collusion to continue the every rising power of Government. That is essentially taxation without representation.
Where the Tea Party ventures off into 'fringe' area is when a group forgets that 'fact' and starts trying to make it a major 'Party' and not what its actual goal is and that is to vote out anyone that is in collusion to raise power to the Government and vote in people that will strip it of power and have fiscal responsibility as well.
Get your reality straight, stop with the left-wing conspiracy junk, and your facts will follow the real reasons. You'd have a hard time finding a member of the Tea Party that even knows the Koch Brothers exist, let alone 'follow' their orders or any one of the people you name.
Ron Paul - the original tea party.....no amnesty there
Yep, if we could only get the right MAN inside that position of power. He'd wave a magic wand and everything would be better. Hey, that's what they said about Obama!
This is why Libertarians sound like Progressives. They live in this bogus utopia, just like the Socialists do.
Jaycen i have no idea what you are talking about. Your side is the one that thinks things will be fine if we just get someone like Romney in there. My side is talking about a complete re-design of Washington DC
January 30, 2013 at 4:14pm
While CrazyOtto and I agree on our dislike for Erickson*, CrazyOtto is engaging in a fallacy. We don’t have to choose between Rubio’s plan (or similar) and deporting everyone. The alternative is “SelfDeport”, which is favored by the leading groups (NumbersUSA etc.) and which even Romney briefly (and half-heartedly) supported.
* I was booted off RS after ~75 *posts* (not just comments) and, despite having no right I could see to do so, they kept my content on their site
January 30, 2013 at 4:10pm
Much of what Marco writes about this is on its face delusional. The only question is whether he’s actually delusional, or whether he’s just trying to deceive.
For instance, he thinks that illegal alien criminals will “come forward” to be deported. And, that’s delusional.
He thinks his plan will “wipe out the black market for low skilled labor”, and that too is delusional. His plan will *reward* those who’ve helped create the black market: chicken processors, growers, big banks, construction companies, etc. They’ll all be let off the hook for their past actions *and* they’ll get what they want: even more “cheap” labor (paid for by everyone else).
If you want to do something about this, make sure as many people as possible see my extensive discussions of why his plans won’t work:
Share that page – or just the ideas on it – with as many people as you can on Facebook, Twitter, and in forums. Turn as many people as possible against Marco, and that will send a message to the rest of the GOP that they should support our current laws, not amnesty.
January 16, 2013 at 1:02pm
“Stay tuned — this should be interesting”. That’s it? That’s all this site has to say?
No recognition that Glenn Beck encouraged his fans to donate to the Chamber a few years ago?
No recognition that the Chamber was as bad on this issue then as they are now?
No recognition that one Rep. even suggested the Chamber register as a Foreign Agent due to their actions on immig.?
And, no plan to deal with this?
The great majority of Americans don’t want amnesty. If many of them joined together to oppose both the Chamber and the unions on this issue, the Chamber and the unions might back off.
I don’t have the reach to do that, but Beck does. So, why doesn’t he put the national interest first and do it?
October 24, 2012 at 4:29pm
The Red Rocks concert venue is part natural formation, part man-made.
The man-made part was built by *FDR’s CCC*.
Maybe for an encore, Romney can lay a wreath on Lenin’s tomb.
September 5, 2012 at 3:28pm
Godfather1: some of the five are pretty weak, but the claim by Deval Patrick (the MA gov) is misleading, no?
P.S. A story no one else is covering (and seem not to want to cover it) is that the DNC2012 platform includes a pro-O quote from an illegal alien:
And, despite that he became a Senator and then President. A wise man might wonder why: how could he become president despite all his baggage? Then, that wise man might reassess how he opposes Obama and try to figure out how he himself has failed.
See, this video is going to have no impact whatsoever: it’s not going to change any minds. If you want to do that, you have to find smart people to try to intellectually engage O, as I tried to do over five years ago:
R/w bloggers and other leaders never gave me any help with that, despite what I wanted to talk to him about being worse that the video above. In fact, I even got pushback from supposed Obama opponents when looking for help getting O asked that question. And, that’s stupid.
December 28, 2011 at 2:11pm
Bachsman: Snopes is OK when it comes to technical matters, but not OK when it comes to politics and other controversial issues:
I’ve left dozens of comments at MMFA over the past several years pointing out how they got things wrong. Not pointing out their partisan bias, but simply how they didn’t tell their readers the truth. I’ve only very rarely gotten any backup from others. If you want to do something about MMFA, join up and leave comments showing how they mislead their readers, and backup others who do that.
July 12, 2011 at 1:44pm
jrook: the long-term goal is in fact to phase out incandescents. The two current alternatives have various problems. LEDs cost a lot and have a heavy manufacturing footprint. And, you almost need a hazmat suit if you break the other type. The halogens cost more, AFAIK aren’t made in the U.S., and once again they want to phase out incandescents entirely over several years.
So, who do we blame? The Dems and the far-left are just doing what comes naturally for them. They can’t really be “blamed” because they’re just doing their jobs.
So, who isn’t doing their jobs? Who let this situation happen in the first place.
For the answer, look no further than the GOP and the teaparty “patriots” (or their predecessors). They helped this situation happen by allowing (in one way or another) mass immig.
The main reason there are so many retired teachers in the first place is due to mass immig. If we weren’t basically educating millions of citizens of a foreign country we’d have fewer retired teachers, less spending on school building, and less spending overall.
Yet, the GOP allowed this situation to build to its current state. The teaparty “patriots” have barely said a word about illegal immig. or mass immig. in general, despite it being the topic where the Dems and the far-left are weakest.
It takes two to tango, and the GOP and the current or nascent teaparty “patriots” matched the Dems step for step.
If you’re smart and sane and want to oppose both the far-left and the self-described “patriots” in the teaparties, help promote this plan that would have a far greater and far better impact on the U.S. than anything Beck has ever said or done:
Reid filed to have a cloture vote about the anti-American DREAM Act amnesty on Saturday, and all this site cares about is relatively minor pork?
The DREAMAct will not only increase social spending, it will give the free-spending Dems and the far-left even more power. Ignoring it now will increase your taxes later and will also reduce your political power.
Let me suggest making that a higher priority than pork. For the details on the bill and what you can do, see: