Quite a bit more considering you’re listing extra-biblical evidence, while there is no evidence of Mohammed or his “ministry” outside of Islam until the Orientalists…who were all of course studying the Muslim texts.
 July 23, 2015 at 2:43pm
Actually, the evidence for Jesus’ ministry is literally the strongest documented ministry in the world. Paul’s letters alone had to have been written within 20-30 years–well within the lifetimes of witnesses. Add to that Peter, James and John–not to mention the Gospels themselves (and Acts) all of whom were independent–and all of which were strictly illegal to be found in possession of (people died for having copies of these) –which is why they were copied and sent out all over the place–exactly the opposite of what happened with the Qur’an.
When people toss out biblical texts (from pure emotion) they show the exact same sort of “judgement” that’s exhibited when someone disbelieves a story because of the source–it’s prejudice pure and simple. Otherwise, the content would be addressed.
Paul was rejected as a true messenger as he had his own version of Christ. James, the supposed brother of Jesus, was the main bishop after the crucifixion. James called the shots. Paul was just another guy, that liked the story but ran his own operation.
'Strongest documented ministry'
There are several eastern religions laughing at you and a fair number of things that came before Jesus that are too.
@blinknight -- Yeah I had a laugh too because Christianity is rather New when compared to the older religions like hinduism in 3000 BCE.
What's always made me laugh is that Christians then we are all of Gods children. But for some reason he didn't bother to try and correct hinduism and teach them why they were wrong and should believe more in his son Jesus back in the year 3000 BCE. So, God sits back and just didn't care that millions believed in their false Gods.
World view of religions and origins definitely makes you step away from it all and say, if you want to follow what other men said then go for it. The religious just never go to the root development of belief and think they are right and others are wrong. Throw all the religious leaders together and they won't eat each other YET they all worship so dude in the sky as God but with different commandments and interpretations as to what is expected.
The spread of religions throughout the time.
 July 23, 2015 at 2:35pm
I think you’re mistaking when the Koran was consolidated, with when the Hadith was. The Hadith consists of ‘tellings’ of his companions–and was largely put together by Muhammad’s early biographers–the Koran was compiled by Uthman, the 3rd Caliph who reigned for 12 years beginning in 645 (iirc) -so much closer to the time of Muhammad.
 July 23, 2015 at 2:11pm
Probably they’re referring to the fact that if this was written down before 644–it’s from before Uthman! Uthman, the 3rd Caliph gathered up all the copies of the Qur’an, and chose one to become “The Qur’an” all other copies were burned. If it turns out that this manuscript (or portion of a manuscript) differs any from Uthman’s then it would prove to be quite interesting indeed!
July 18, 2015 at 3:27am
@emmayche The problem is the activists within this movement specifically say that ‘hate the sin love the sinner’ is a lie…and they will tell you so repeatedly. They will stop at nothing less than absolute celebration of debauchery.
“Discretion will guard you,
Understanding will watch over you,
To deliver you from the way of evil,
From the man who speaks perverse things;
From those who leave the paths of uprightness
To walk in the ways of darkness;
Who delight in doing evil
And rejoice in the perversity of evil;
Whose paths are crooked,
And who are devious in their ways” -Proverbs 2:11-15
[-1] July 18, 2015 at 3:07am
Being “Gay” isn’t an end all to being of Christian faith—in the sense that someone suffering from same sex attractions isn’t shut out of the possibility of relationship with God. The problem comes when people with same sex attractions choose to IDENTIFY–to define their very identity as “Gay” (as you, I believe, correctly emphasized). I tried to explain to my then almost adult daughter, if (God forbid) I were in a car accident and somehow lost my ability to have sex, and could never live out that part of my life with her Dad again–my identity would not change–I am first and foremost a child of God, secondarily a wife, mother, daughter etc etc.
 July 4, 2015 at 6:24am
Jul. 3, 2015 at 1:42pm
“But this Fascist judge has also put a gag order on the bakers. They can’t voice their beliefs on homosexual marriage. The SCOTUS also made abortion legal but that doesn’t force doctors to preform abortions. Hospitals don’t preform abortions, they are done in abortion clinics. The Hippocratic Oath protects doctors from doing this and protects medical staff from being involved in the murder of children. These bakers deserve the same protection for their beliefs.”
I wish you were correct, that the Hipppocratic Oath protected doctors, but it doesn’t…they get them in medical school, forcing students to go through rotations where abortion is required, I have a cousin who graduated just in time to avoid one. She’s a pediatric pulmonologist :) You’re also incorrect about abortions not being performed in hospitals…I’ve had 4 such procedures, all done in hospitals. We’ve suffered 4 late term miscarriages, the technical term is ‘missed spontaneous abortion’….where the baby dies, but the body fails to miscarry naturally. Perhaps it depends on the hospital….or perhaps it used to before Obamacare. :(
 July 4, 2015 at 6:08am
They had a go fund me page—gofundme took them and Baronelle Stutzman’s pages down. They are refusing to help Christians persecuted for refusing to celebrate gay marriage (regardless of how ever many years of ANY other sort of service they may have performed–as in Stutzman’s case) crowd fund. They are NOT refusing to help those convicted of violent crimes up to and including rape.
 July 2, 2015 at 4:12pm
He’s just jealous. It’s 100% projection, deeeeeeeep down Takei knows that while his homosexuality is at least in part by choice, Thomas’ skin color is not. While there are thousands upon thousands of “ex” homosexuals, there are no “ex” black people. He also knows somewhere in that dark heart of his that it is G*d who grants that dignity, and not man. It is because we are made in His image that we have any dignity at all, and it is our rebellion against that Creator that costs dignity. Scripture mandated that any runaway slave not be returned, that anyone who kidnapped another human deserved capital punishment–the underground railway here in the US was never in violation of G*d’s law, merely man’s–and that is precisely why the slave did indeed retain dignity. Thomas is exactly right–the unborn murdered in the womb are murdered despite their innate “right to life”–and in spite of their obvious humanity.
“I am proudly a Christian” ? Gee, and I thought pride was the deadliest of sins to Christians.
“If as a Christian you cannot separate fiction and reality, you are perilously close to picking up a sword and rushing out to wage Christian jihad against the sodom that is Hollywood, and all those who believe less strongly than yourself”
LOL!! Ok, there are at least 2 glaring inconsistencies with Christianity here–1) If YOU can’t recognize pornography when you see it–and recognize that God is again’ it lol you are in some MAJOR trouble. and 2) For Pete’s sake! if you have to borrow from another religion (jihad) to describe an act, that should clue you into the fact that it’s not kosher! How one could possibly claim to follow the Deity who mandated loving one’s enemies—-and claim that following that mandate could EVER end in taking a sword to “those who believe less strongly than yourself”. Utter bs.
There isn’t a smidge of pornography in the Chronicles of Narnia.
Those cliff notes, or crib notes you’ve gotten ahold of are just plain wrong. “uncovering his feet” refers to…uncovering his feet. She (at Naomi’s direction) was asking him to serve as her “kinsman redeemer” – it was a proposal, not a consummation.
“Affirming children for who they are is simply the right thing to do, and rejecting a child’s deeply held sense of who they are can have very serious consequences,” James Parrish, executive director of Equality Virginia, told the Daily Press. “It is sad that this is even a debate.”
It’s SHOCKING how exactly backwards this is from reality (i.e. it’s the exact perfect argument for the other side)
From http://www.healthofchildren.com/G-H/Gender-Identity.html “Most children eventually outgrow gender identity disorder. About 75 percent of boys with gender identity disorder develop a homosexual or bisexual orientation by late adolescence or adulthood, but without continued feelings of transsexuality. Most of the remaining 25 percent become heterosexuals (also without transsexuality). Those individuals in whom gender identity disorder persists into adulthood retain the desire to live as members of the opposite sex, sometimes manifesting this desire by cross-dressing, either privately or in public. In some cases, adult transsexuals (both male and female) have their primary and secondary sexual characteristics altered through a sex change operation, consisting of surgery and hormone treatments.”
Didja catch that?! 75% + 25% = 100% The percentage is SO small that these folks refer to them as “individuals”.
 June 8, 2015 at 12:30am
I find this confusing. “Christian Gay people” is an oxymoron. How can one claim to be a follower of Christ, who not only taught from the “Old Testament”, not only quoted (often) from Leviticus, but ‘doubled down’ on the law?! This celibate rabbi taught that one was guilty of adultery for merely LOOKing with lust upon someone of the opposite sex—HOW does one then claim to be His follower, while practicing homosexuality?
Because we are all sinners… “those without sin can throw the first stone.” Are you claiming to be without sin? I'm not a fan of homosexual anything but, that is between the individual and God.
The difference, Feral, is repenting. As a Christian, you are also a sinner, on that we all agree, but the Christian will know he sinned and will try to repent and not do it again. The homosexual who says he's just fine with being homosexual is not repenting.
 June 5, 2015 at 7:59am
Ah, did you miss: ‘ “The saddest thing for me as a reader was how, in books on the Bible and sex, Vines and Wilson concentrated almost wholly on the biblical negatives, the prohibitions against homosexual practice, instead of giving sustained attention to the high, (yes) glorious Scriptural vision of sexuality,” Keller wrote.’
IOW, we’re all agreed that scripture is quite prohibitive of homosexual acts. This article is just focusing on the author’s additional view that G*d’s positive teaching on complimentarianism as well all the positive teachings on godly marriage are being utterly neglected by the “gay christian” side.
Tony Washington’s NFL Story: How Wrong is Brother Sister…
Dec 29, 2010 – Moral psychology has no answer as to whether brother-sister incest is wrong,
Full Marriage Equality: End the Persecution of Tony …
Sep 7, 2010 – I found ESPN’s coverage of the sad tale of Tony Washington, which I … Incest.” It can be painful to read this. Washington’s family stood by him.
The first negative headline was 6th down. Interesting.
A few positive articles makes up for the MILLIONS of dollars he lost. Yeah, ok.
 June 4, 2015 at 2:08am
Not to mention the fact that the day after he touched the youngest sister’s behind–he was OUTTA THERE for 3 months. It simply doesn’t matter to these people. Hater’s gonna hate.
 June 4, 2015 at 2:06am
Perhaps because you’re under the impression that Duggar did to his sisters whatever your cousin did to you. Duggar felt his sister’s chests–on top of their clothing, one at a time while they were asleep–he did the same to a babysitter—and each time he came crying to his parents and confessed. Had he not confessed–they’d never have been the wiser–and perhaps he would have gone down another road. As it is–he later copped one more feel–again, on top of clothes–and lastly, he felt the butt of his youngest sister while reading her a story–she was so young she had NO idea he’d done anything wrong, despite the multiple family meetings and discussions of what “good touch vs bad touch” constituted. (perhaps she thought he was merely shifting her weight–the report isn’t that detailed) The next DAY he was out of the house for 3+ months–and he’d been taken to the police station before being allowed back into the home. EVERYONE involved also went to certified licensed counseling.
Duggar was also interviewed by their church elders, and according to some, had to stand before their whole church confessing what he’d done. These people did the opposite of sweeping his behavior under a rug.
Your experience is your experience. Their experience is theirs. According to them, he is not a pedophile. Also, according to a 2009 DoJ report on analysis of several long term studies, 85-90% of offenders similar to Duggar do NOT reoffend. -pretty much the opposite of a pedophile.
Do you have the citations so I can read and verify?
Well said Auralae, Not to diminish what others have experienced, but so many attempt to project on to Josh, what was done to them...the word "pedophile" is NOT applicable to Josh as was pointed out in the interview, by law...
 June 4, 2015 at 1:53am
Ha! Obviously people like the police chief who released the report–people like the editors of all these salacious articles about them—the VAST majority of which imply a good deal worse was done to the sisters….and evidently hundreds of thousands of commenters who take shocking amounts of pleasure in this public shaming.
BTW -The Oprah interview was supposed to have taken place back in 2006. At that time, someone who came across a letter that had been tucked away in a book in the Duggar household–detailing the fondling incidents–that person called Oprah–and she called the authorities which started the ball rolling for an official investigation. The upshot of that investigation was twofold, 1 the original incidents having taken place from March of 2002 – 2003 (five separate incidents—NOT an ongoing situation as has also been implied) were outside the statue of limitations and therefore not prosecutable–and 2ndly, HE HAD QUIT THE BEHAVIOR and as such, there was nothing to prosecute.
 June 4, 2015 at 1:36am
“A guy who molested his own siblings is a-ok,”
Again—STRAWMAN ARGUMENT –as literally NO ONE has EVER said that what Josh Duggar did was “a-ok”. -What some people may have tried to say is if he’s repented, and has NEVER done anything even remotely similar EVER AGAIN, he might indeed be ok now. Did you pay any attention to that little bit of Megyn Kelly’s report about the DoJ’s analysis of long term studies showing that the majority of offenders like Josh are 12-14 and 85-90% of them go on to never commit sex crimes again??
“…but a guy who stood up for consensual love” -I believe it’s the fact that Harvey Milk was quite above board about his proclivity for teen aged boys….specifically, drug addicted teenaged waifs….iirc. Today, he could very well have ended up meeting Chris Hanson up close ;)
“…. and a man who personally chose to do something that only affects himself are sick?” -Ah….ask his ex-wives and kids if this “only affects himself”.
 June 4, 2015 at 1:16am
And here’s your salacious accusation–”This guy is disgusting” As IF he’s still doing similar things! As IF this behavior wasn’t confronted–and confronted in the most serious of ways AT THE TIME.
I seriously doubt you’d have the courage to say exactly that to his sister’s face. -And if you would–that speaks even LESS to your character.