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begreen

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  • August 28, 2014 at 8:01pm

    Mom
    y”I don’t know begreen because when I search all the different translations of the Bible I it didn’t exist.” it exist. 1 Timothy 3:15 hmm it reads the pillar and ground what the Bible? NOPE. ” But if I tarry long, that you may know how you ought to behave yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.”
    “I have taken communion” What dies communion mean to you? Do truly believe that Jesus is there present in the bread and wine. And that it is not just a symbol?
    “. Why does your church teach something that is not in the Bible?” My churc wrote the bible.

  • August 28, 2014 at 7:45pm

    Mom
    “Anabasis, Why don’t you buy yourself a Bible, read it, and let the Holy Spirit interpret it for you.”
    Mom where in the bible does it say read and the Holy Spirit will guide you?

  • August 28, 2014 at 7:43pm

    Mom

    How do we know the Bible has no errors? How do we know which books are suppose to be in the Bible? Because the church tell us so. Since th not have a list to tell us which books belong in the Bible we need to rely on a source outside of the Bible.

  • August 28, 2014 at 7:41pm

    Mom
    “Just like you I have to follow what I believe is truth.” Let’s see what the bible teaches on the subject of truth. . So where do we find this truth? John 8:32 ” And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” To set us free means to save us. This is critical for us to know the truth to be saved John 14:7 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. So truth is a person! To deny the truth is to deny Jesus. What did Jesus tell Pilot John 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice. So truth is obviously an important commodity. So what does Scripture say is the ” pillar and ground of the truth”? In of the truth.” is 1 Timothy 3:15 hmm it reads the pillar and ground what the Bible? NOPE. ” But if I tarry long, that you may know how you ought to behave yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.” So the Bible says, the word of God says it’s the Church not scripture. Therefore, the final authority is God’s Church. So the Church founded by Jesus Christ is an singular visible authoritative church. Think about this, for the Bible to have authority the Church has to have authority.

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  • [1] August 28, 2014 at 11:47am

    .” is 1 Timothy 3:15 hmm it reads the pillar and ground what the Bible? NOPE. ” But if I tarry long, that you may know how you ought to behave yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.” So the Bible says, the word of God says it’s the Church not scripture. Therefore, the final authority is God’s Church. So the Church founded by Jesus Christ is an singular visible authoritative church. Think about this, for the Bible to have authority the Church has to have authority. How do we know the Bible has no errors? How do we know which books are suppose to be in the Bible? Because the church tell us so. Since the Bible does not have a list to tell us which books belong in the Bible we need to rely on a source outside of the Bible.

  • [1] August 28, 2014 at 11:46am

    No where in the bible is it say pray to the Holy Spirit and you will be guarantee an infillible interpretation of scripture. Also I believe that with any book the FINAL interpretation should be left to author ONLY! Please note the NT was put together by the CC on an order of the Pope . It was the CC that decided which books belong in the NT from many books present almost 400 years after the church was up and running.
    John 8:32 ” And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” To set us free means to save us. This is critical for us to know the truth to be saved John 14:7 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. So truth is a person! To deny the truth is to deny Jesus. What did Jesus tell Pilot John 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice. So truth is obviously an important commodity. So what does Scripture say is the ” pillar and ground of the truth”?

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  • [1] August 28, 2014 at 3:35am

    What follows from this is self-evident. The same authority which made and collected and preserved these books alone has the right to claim them as her own, and to say what the meaning of them is. The Church of St. Paul and St. Peter and St. James in the first century was the same Church as that of the Council of Carthage and of St. Augustine in the fourth, and of the Council of Florence in the fifteenth, and the Vatican in the nineteenth—one and the same body—growing and developing, certainly, as every living thing must do, but still preserving its identity and remaining essentially the same body, as a man of 80 is the same person as he was at 40, and the same person at 40 as he was at 2. The Catholic Church of today, then, may be compared to a man who has grown from infancy to youth, and from youth to middle-age. Suppose a man wrote a letter setting forth certain statements, whom would you naturally ask to tell what the meaning of these statements was? Surely the man that wrote it. The Church wrote the New Testament; she, and she alone, can tell us what the meaning of it is.

  • [1] August 28, 2014 at 3:35am

    Why did Our Lord promise them the gift of the Holy Ghost, and command them to be ‘witnesses’ of Him? and why, in fact, did the Holy Ghost come down upon the Twelve and endow them with the power of speaking in various languages? Why but that they might be able to ‘preach the Gospel to every creature’ in the tongue of every creature.
    THE point that we have arrived at now, if you remember, is this—The Catholic Church, through her Popes and Councils, gathered together the separate books that Christians venerated which existed in different parts of the world. So the CC decided which books belong in the NT because there were many books around. So the CC decided form many books which books are to be in the NT.
    So my question is almost 400 years before the NT was decided on the CC was up and running. How were the first CC Millions were converted without the NT?

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  • [1] August 28, 2014 at 3:30am

    Mom
    Mom “What makes you think that you are not wrong?”

    Dearest mom I presented Bible verse after bible verse asking for an explanation what do I get crickets. This leaves me to believe that you have no idea How the bible was put together. Just to help you out, at least 1500 years pasted from Moses first putting scripture in writing to the end of the Nt Books. By the way for the first 1000 years all original bibles had the same number of books until Mr. King James decided he Knew better than the first Christians and toss out 7 books from the OT. Hmm? I wonder why especially when the good books teaches not to change any part of scripture. I would asked you to explain that one but so far you ignore the bible verse that you fail to answer so what’s the use? To begin with, the Bible did not drop down from Heaven ready-made, as some seem to imagine; it did not suddenly appear upon the earth, carried down from Almighty God by the hand of angel or seraph; but it was written by men like ourselves, who held in their hand pen (or reed) and ink and parchment, and laboriously traced every letter in the original languages of the East. They were divinely inspired. By the way The Church Preceded the New Testament. How did they propose to evangelize these people? By presenting each one with a New Testament? Such a thing did not exist, and, we may safely say, was not even thought of. Why did Our Lord promise them the gift of the Holy Ghost, and command them to be ‘witnesses’ of Him? and wh

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  • August 27, 2014 at 6:58am

    Man will always mess things up. But we have God’ promise that the gates of hell will not prevail. When 3000 were added on the Day of Pentecost who responded to Peter’s preaching (Acts 2:41). What do you think they were added to? . The NT was not even written yet. Right the church Singular as it was written upon this rock I will build my church He did not say churches!

  • August 27, 2014 at 6:55am

    Mom since you know so much more then I how about helping me out with these questions

    ..1 How many books are in the KJ NT and what year was it compose and by who?
    2 How many books are in the NT Douay-Rheims Bible? compose and by who?
    3 What year was the NT Bible put together ?
    4 What happen before the printing press how were the Bibles distributed ?
    5 Who decided which books belong in the NT?
    6 Do you believe in the Trinity? If so, why? Does the Bible mention anything about there being one God, but 3 persons in God, each of Whom is fully God?
    7 How do you know the bible is inspired by God who told you?
    8 Why do we have some 25,000 + Protestant denominations all over the world, many teaching doctrines that absolutely contradict one another, when they all go by the Bible alone? Isn’t the Bible easy enough for everyone to read and come to the same conclusion By the Holy spirit as you say?

  • August 27, 2014 at 6:43am

    “They tell me you are very lost.” So that’s your guide go by? My guide is the CC. Answer this- what does the bible say is the pillar and bull work of the truth?
    Who cares that you met people that left the CC that just goes to prove to me that if they truly know Jesus that would had never happen. They are the same ones that left Jesus after He said “THIS IS MY BODY AND BLOOD” ” TAKE AND EAT OF IT” UNLESS YOU DO THIS YOU WILL NOT HAVE LIFE IN YOU” Be sides I had met plenty that join the CC from non Catholic churches .Just so they can receive His real body and blood. ” Therefore, because I am saved and obey God by doing His wil” Do you do His will by eating His real body and blood?
    ” But work for salvation is not our work. And this lie”
    So authority is above the bible which got it wrong with James 2:14-26New King James Version (NKJV) “Faith Without Works Is Dead”
    ” How did these people get so offended? They dealt with people in the church”
    Let’s see what scripture says about the Church. ” you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.” That lives you out. 1 Timothy 3:15 hmm it reads the pillar and ground what the Bible? NOPE. ” But if I tarry long, that you may know how you ought to behave yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.” So the Bible says, the word of God says it’s the Church not scripture. Therefore, the final authority is God’s Chu

  • August 26, 2014 at 5:45am

    Mom

    I believe we are indeed saved by our faith, but not by our faith “alone.” I don’t believe that because God’s Word doesn’t teach it. Faith and works are both necessary responses to God’s free gift of His grace. If I believed in salvation by works “alone,” which I don’t, I could make a much better case for that from the Bible than you can for salvation by faith “alone” from the Bible.

  • August 26, 2014 at 5:41am

    Mom ” we only need to believe”

    Romans 2:6…God will render to every man according to his faith? No…according to his deeds.
    James 2:12-13…God will judge without mercy those who have shown no mercy; which fits well with the next verse…
    Matthew 6:15…God will not forgive you if you have not forgiven others; which fits well with the next verse…
    Matthew 18:23-32…God will not forgive those who do not forgive others. In other words, we can’t be saved by faith alone…we have to forgive others to be saved. Isn’t that a work?
    Matthew 25:31-46…how does God separate the sheep from the goats? By their faith? No…by what they have done.
    Matthew 7:21…how do we get into Heaven, by crying Lord, Lord? By our faith alone? No…by whether or not we have done the will of God.
    Rev 20:12…the dead were judged according to their faith? No…according to their works.
    I could go on and on…every passage in the New Testament, that I know of, speaks of people being judged by their works, their deeds, by what they have done or by what they haven’t done. Not a single passage that I know of says that we will be judged by our faith alone. Yet you believe that! Why? Because people, not the Bible, have taught you that. Don’t get me wrong…I believe we are indeed saved by our faith, but not by our faith “alone.” I don’t believe that because God’s Word doesn’t teach it. Faith and works are both necessary responses to God’s free gift of His grace.

  • August 26, 2014 at 5:29am

    Mom
    Your problem, Mom, is that you take a verse of Scripture here, and a verse there, and you forget about a whole lot of verses over here and there, and then you, on your own, with no authority whatsoever, devise an out-of-context, fallible, man-made, interpretation of God’s Word that fits your pre-set beliefs…and thus you have: “The Gospel According to Slick.” Compounding your problem, as it relates to the teaching of the Church, is that you simply do not understand what the Catholic Church teaches and why it teaches it. You take a snippet of Catholic teaching here, and a snippet there, and you put it together in your head, according to your own imagination…and thus you have: “The Catechism of the Catholic Church According to Mom.” And then you take your twisted Scriptures and put them side-by-side with your twisted Catechism, and say, “See, the Catholic Church teaches things contrary to Scripture.”
    are you trying to tell me that you are infallible in teaching me about the bible? What authority do you have? Who authorized you? Where does it say in the bible that I must follow you?

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  • August 26, 2014 at 5:21am

    Mom
    2 Peter 3:16 “As also in all his Epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they doe also the other Scriptures, onto their owned destruction”

  • August 26, 2014 at 5:19am

    Mom for freedom
    “I believe your church long ago has been perverted by Satan” Your in error I didn’t start theCC Jesus did so calle it for what it is it’s Jesus’ Church . and the gates of hell will not prevailed by the way that’s in the bible.
    “Authority comes from God and not the Catholic Church” Peter was given the keys not you!
    “not just church leaders” O I get it the bible got that part wrong I sure glad you corrected the bible…not!
    “One of you not like what I said? “Here’s where your flipping out again…check your meds.
    “so ever believes in Him will have eternal life.” As a catholic I believe this 100% . But it does not say ONLY. The problem is your false interpretation again. I repeat 1000 million times this does mean ONLY!
    SUPPOSE I SHOW YOU IN THE BIBLE IN JAMES WHERE IT SAYS FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD? Are going to tell me the bible got that wrong too. You are your own pope.
    “But all it takes is believing God” The bible does not mean only! Even the devil believes with evil doers believe in God. That doesn’t mean they will be saved.
    “Where does it say only because the Catholic Church interpreted it for them.” Where does it say only mom has the right to interpret it?
    “The Holy Spirit is given to all who believe not just church leaders.” The bible for folks like is written ” forget 2 Peter 3:16 “As also in all his Epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wres

  • August 25, 2014 at 12:01am

    St. Paul said, “may our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God our Father . . . comfort your hearts and strengthen them in every good work and word,” (2 Thessalonians 2:16-17).

    Notice that Paul does not ask the Father “in Jesus name” to comfort believers but petitions both the Father and the Son to do that, or he treats them as equals. If the apostle Thomas can confidently say to Jesus “My Lord and my God,” Stephen can ask Jesus to receive his spirit, and Paul can ask Christ to comfort us, then why shouldn’t we pray to Jesus? Why would I join a Church that discourages praying to the eternal, all-powerful, and one-of-a-kind (John 1:18) Son of God

  • August 24, 2014 at 11:58pm

    Jesus is our “eldest brother.” You see, I believe that Jesus is my Lord and God and that he is co-equal and co-eternal with the Father. You believe, in contrast, that the Father created Jesus and so you don’t pray to Jesus. I love being a Christian and I would miss my relationship with Jesus if I joined the Mormon Church.” The young men had never heard this particular objection before and promised to study the issue in further detail.

    Some Mormons claim that the reason they only pray to the Father (who they call “Heavenly Father”) is because Jesus taught his disciples to address their prayers to “our Father” and because Jesus told his disciples to “ask of the Father in my name.” But of course, just because Jesus gave us one way to pray does not mean that is the only way to pray. After all, LDS give thanks to Heavenly Father even though Jesus never showed his followers through the Lord’s Prayer how to give thanks to God. It seems more likely that LDS only pray to the Father because they are following the prescription in the Book of Mormon where Jesus says, “ye must always pray unto the Father in my name” (3 Nephi 18:19).

    Praying to Jesus

    But the Bible gives us many examples of praying to and worshipping Jesus. For example, after his resurrection Jesus received worship from his disciples (Matthew 28:9) and Thomas called Jesus “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28). After his ascension St. Stephen prayed to Jesus saying, “Lord Jesus, Receive my Spirit.”

  • August 24, 2014 at 11:54pm

    One interesting consequence of this belief is that LDS celestial marriages can be polygamous. According to one LDS manual of instructions, while a man can remarry in the temple after his wife dies (and thus have more than one wife in Heaven) a woman can only be married in the temple once.[iii]

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