If my faith says its okay to refuse service to black people, can I do that?
Can a Muslim refuse service to a woman for not wearing a head scarf?
March 31, 2015 at 5:54am
” It’s not about discrimination”
Let me guess, you’re a Christian?
Thou shalt not lie.
March 31, 2015 at 5:53am
Scenario 1: They will not print porno for anyone, therefore they can refuse to print it without incident. This will not even get to court.
Scenario 2: Racism and other hate speech is protected by the 1st Amendment. This sort of thing is not on the other hand covered under anti-discrimination law.
Scenario 3: Same as two.
All of your scenarios are completely stupid and not remotely comparable.
March 31, 2015 at 5:50am
Okay, we’ll let that be known, and history will remember you unkindly.
March 31, 2015 at 5:49am
‘But Clinton signed a law 22 years ago and…’
It was wrong then, it’s wrong now, what was your point again?
March 31, 2015 at 5:48am
Why is it that people…
A) Think that gay people comprise 1-2% of the population the the number is actually closer to 5% and goes even higher once you include bisexuals whom this sort of thing can affect too.
B) Think that only this tiny % of people are the ‘complainers’ when the fact is that for every single gay person, there are tens of thousands of straight people who agree with them.
By the way, at what point does discriminating against people become wrong? When they comprise 10% of the population? 20%? 40%? Or is it just cool with you that as long as we can get 50.1% of the people to agree with you, we can discriminate against whomever we want?
March 31, 2015 at 5:45am
Oh you’re behind.
We know being gay is not a choice. We have yet to figure out why people are gay.
One more time just for you.
The question is not ‘if’ people are born gay, we answered that one, and the answer is yes. The question now is ‘why’ people are born gay.
March 31, 2015 at 5:44am
More proof that theism is a mental disorder you mean?
Unlike being gay, being religious does in fact have some things in common with mental disorders.
March 31, 2015 at 5:43am
“The history of the Supreme Court decision on Hobby Lobby says religious freedom is still alive”
How many different ways can theists twist the Hobby Lobby ruling to say something it extensively does not and claim that it’s all about ‘religious freedom’?
I saw the first one less than 2 hours after the ruling!
March 31, 2015 at 5:41am
Actually, you have more in common with the Muslims than any other group out there, being Christians and all. You are aware that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all Abrahamic religions right?
March 31, 2015 at 5:40am
Did you get the impression I was gay? Sorry, I’m not. Sort of makes your tired little story that much stupider doesn’t it?
And as I already pointed out: How dare somebody tell the truth about Christians!
March 31, 2015 at 5:39am
There is only one version.
How dare they tell the truth about Christians and expose them!
March 31, 2015 at 5:38am
You are already being black listed by companies and municipalities. You think that’s not going to eventually matter? Keep thinking that. It’s not just your state that will suffer but businesses in your state as well.
Yes, you’re an idiot who doesn’t understand the Constitution, I’m glad you understood something for a change, it must be such a new experience for you. I remember you well because the first posts I ever noticed by you were completely ‘pulled out of thin air’ statistics, and you haven’t gotten any better since then.
Oh there you go again, thinking you have a majority on your side.
You do not.
The Chick fil A thing was stupid. The personal opinion of the CEO has no bearing on what thousands of chain restaurants do. Does Chick fil A discriminate against gay people? No?
Then it doesn’t matter. Yes, the guy who runs it may be an ignorant old fool on a certain subject, but how is he actually running the company? Is it discriminating against gay people? No? Then it doesn’t matter.
March 31, 2015 at 5:32am
The basis of our Constitution is that the law must apply equally to everyone which is why it along with the Bill of Rights and other Amendments are the ‘ultimate law of the land’, by which we mean that no government entity, no private entity, and no person may in anyway be above the law.
March 31, 2015 at 5:28am
1-Bieng a Christian does not make you above or immune from anti-discrimination law. You have every right to be a Christian, but you do not have the right to discriminate and say ‘but I’m a Christian!’ when you are caught doing it. If you really want to discriminate, then accept your punishments.
2-As Christians like to helpfully remind people so often, there are not that many gay people that you can reasonably go anywhere and expect them to support a business. What an idiotic question.
3-Why do Christians feel the need to shove it down peoples throats? Why can’t they just practice their religion in peace and not say it justifies discrimination and they should be able to break the law that applies to everyone else?
4-I live in the Bible belt, cool huh?
Note the moron who thinks I’m afraid to answer questions. I’m a theist you know.
What is it about ‘thou shalt not lie’ that was unclear to you? Why do Christians keep trying to find ways to mislead, obfuscate and yes, lie about this because they think they’ve found some clever way to ‘get around’ the law when the fact is all it boils down is they want to say ‘not guilty by reason Christianity’.
Anti-discrimination laws apply to everyone. The Christians don’t get special exceptions to break them just because they have a personal problem with gay people
And yes, it is a personal problem not a ‘my god told me so’ problem.
March 31, 2015 at 5:20am
“Whether you like it or not God’s word is his word on the matter.”
No actually the law doesn’t give a damn what the Bible has to say about it. As I have to keep helpfully reminding Christians… Your Bible means less than nothing under the law and when you get taken to court there will not be a ‘Not Guilty By Reason of Christianity’ defense.
March 31, 2015 at 5:18am
So basically nobody is allowed to boycott anything ever or its ‘blackmail’? No sorry, if you don’t agree with the policies of another state, you can stop doing business with that state. Unfortunately where I work doesn’t do any business with Indiana that I could find.
Yes I did check.
March 31, 2015 at 5:16am
Was that your extremely poor attempt at being clever? A strawman argument? Really?
March 31, 2015 at 5:15am
Oh so it’s the usual then, it’s only wrong when “they” do it.
[-1] March 31, 2015 at 5:13am
Does it ever occur to you that saying your religion gives you a free pass to be a bigot is pants on head retarded and that when you’re called on it it is not even remotely intolerant?
Good thing nobody but the Christians want special rights then. They’re the ones sitting around going ‘You can’t actually expect me to obey anti-discrimination law! I’m a Christian!’
Legally? They most certainly are. You may not discriminate on the basis of race, gender, religion OR sexual orientation.
In order for your ‘definition’ to mean anything, prove god exists first, otherwise it’s just you sitting there saying ‘my opinion matters more because I think my magic man in the sky agrees with me!’
If and when you can prove your god exists, then we will evaluate whether or not we care what his opinions are because I’ll give you a hint.
Even if your god is real then his ideas on things are still arbitrary and require justification.