The measure failed, and council member from both parties voted against it. If folks don’t like the councils votes, they should pray to their god.
September 10, 2014 at 10:28am
The Allegheny city council made the correct decision in voting not to pollute the public square with the “In Allah We Trust” slogan. Oh wait! It was “In God we trust.”
In reality (the overly litigious Liberty Council should look into reality) both are inappropriate in government functions, both refer to a supernatural entity for which there is no real evidence of existence, and the only difference between the two is that conservative authoritarian dominionists would get their panties in a knot if anyone suggested putting “In Allah We Trust” anywhere.
Philosophically, the Christian religious right is no different than the Taliban. Both groups desire to shove their beliefs down other people throats via force of government. If you want to make the FRFF go away, stop doing that garbage to other people. You are wrong, and if you need your religious slogans plastered all over society, maybe your faith is weak.
"In Allah we Trust" like saying "Gesundheit" in 1950s Minnesota when someone sneezes is the use of multiple languages. Warping the meaning is the price of ignorance of history, a common result of a K-12 education in the United States.
Can you imagine teaching Freedom of Education in the United States where education is compulsory and state run?
Without Freedom of Education there can be no Freedom of Religion.
July 10, 2013 at 3:17pm
DSABATUCCI, if you posit the notion that a god exists, it’s up to you to provide evidence in support of your claim. It becomes of particular importance when religious people seek to use government to impose their entirely unsubstantiated, faith held belief on others. Especially other people’s kids.
Evolution is both a set of theories, and several proven facts. It speaks nothing to the existence of gods, the origins of the universe, or the origin of life.
The big bang theory is under research, is not fact, and has nothing to do with evolution.
That you confuse the two is a pretty good indication that you are a novice debater/apologist. Your faulty premise is that you, on faith alone, belief that your god created everything. Prove it.
July 10, 2013 at 11:05am
I was apathetic in regard to religious beliefs. Growing up in Louisiana, it was presumed you were some kind of a believer. Then I read the bible (KJV & NIV) side by side. It took more than a year. After that, I concluded, based on rational examination of evidence and “Scripture” that I am an atheist. There was no de-conversion.
I’m not anti-religious. Again based on rational examination of multiple forms of evidence, the tendency of humans to invent gods, and the religions that accompany them seems completely innate, and to a large degree, harmless.
July 10, 2013 at 10:56am
If atheism is a religion, then abstinence is a sex position.
Atheism is simply the lack of belief in any gods. There is no dogma and there is no faith. Btw, we don’t actually eat babies. That’s just an inside joke told to poke fun at religious folks that think all human morality stems from their personally chosen belief.
So no, atheism is not taught in schools. You may be confusing religion-neutral, fact based, secular education with the sorts of nonsense the Texas State Board of Embarrassment thinks is curricula.
March 31, 2013 at 11:35am
I respect your right, and the right of others, to hold the religious beliefs of their choosing. However neither you or them have any right to impose those beliefs on others via the force of government.
Religion is voluntary. Government is not.
March 28, 2013 at 2:03pm
Hypersensitivity + Authoritarianism = The Catholic League
March 27, 2013 at 10:01am
Locked is absolutely correct. In fact, the matter before the court today concerns a widow whose marriage was legally recognized in her state of residence. Thanks to DOMA she was forced by the federal government to pay income taxes on the estate.
You folks should really read up on this stuff before espousing your ignorance.
March 27, 2013 at 9:49am
The concept of marriage pre-dates your Bible by many thousands of years.
March 27, 2013 at 9:09am
Well, TheGrtDcptn, if you have ever consumed shrimp or pork, (according to the beliefs of some christians) YOU have chosen eternal damnation as well.
March 27, 2013 at 9:05am
RIGHT! And what wrong with ‘separate but equal’ for public schools?
March 27, 2013 at 9:00am
If marriage had not already been re-defined, I’d still be able to sell my daughter’s hand in marriage in return for livestock.
March 27, 2013 at 8:54am
And I respect your right to believe that. However, holding a belief doesn’t not entitle one to empower their government to discriminate and cause needless harm others on behalf of that belief.
March 27, 2013 at 8:49am
The considered answer to you question is NO, there are not any valid arguments against equality for same sex couples that are not religious in nature or foundation.
I substantiate my position by examining the $30M worth of political advertisements promoting Prop 8, and the evidence actually presented by the defendants in its court trial. The advertisements regurgitated every bit of debunked pseudo science the opponents of equality have come up with in the 4 decades this has been a political football. The fear mongering ads also echoed all of the slippery slope arguments I’ve seen in this thread. Absolutely NONE of that was brought up at the trial. It seems that in court, facts matter, and faith doesn’t make law.