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BondmanPhil

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  • August 7, 2014 at 10:04am

    (continued)…Bibi went along with it, as he has done many times when faced with U.S. pressure to act against Israel’s best interests.
    Perhaps the Lewinski tapes were a factor, but the idea that this was all Israel offered in return for Pollard is nonsense.

  • August 7, 2014 at 10:02am

    The author’s suggestion that the only reason Clinton was considering a release of Pollard was because of Israeli blackmail ignores the entire Wye Accord at which this conversation supposedly took place. Bibi was willing to cede Israeli control of most of Hebron, Judaism’s second holiest city, in order to secure Pollard’s release. While Pollard’s release would have been a big plus in terms of his popularity in Israel, abandoning Hebron to Israel’s Arab enemy was not so popular. Still, State and Bill Clinton were demanding “sacrifices for peace” (which Israel is always demanded to give, but never Israel’s enemies).
    What happened next is a guess. The agreement had been made – Pollard for Hebron – and Bibi and Clinton prepared to face the cameras at the Wye Plantation to announce the deal. Just before they went outside, Bill could be seen placing his hand on Bibi’s shoulder and looking apologetic. Witnesses say they could not hear Clinton, but whatever he said made Netanyahu turn white. Then, the two walked out and announced only the Israeli retreat from Hebron, but not Pollard’s release. The speculation is that, faced with a mutiny from his intelligence staff, Clinton told Bibi he could not honor his promise to release Pollard, but that it would embarrass America if, with the press expecting a major announcement, the Israeli part of the deal was also reneged on. Bibi went along with it, as he has done many times when faced with U.S. pressure to act against Israel’s be

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  • July 28, 2014 at 3:30pm

    Frau rose-ellen delights again with here low-info anti-Semitism. But, as Frau rose-ellen knows, it all started when Israel tried to defend itself. Sorry, rose, unlike tose good JOOOZZZ you loved so much of the last century, the Jews of Israel will not march quietly into the showers. They will fight for their land and their families. And they don’t give one rat’s tail what the anti-Semites like you think about it. Try to deal.

  • July 28, 2014 at 3:16pm

    Cavallo – good comments, but I know many, many Jewish Americans who have been paying attention. Of the 20% of Jewish Americans who identify as Orthodox, roughly 2/3 vote consistently conservative. The rest are as the blind stumbling about in the dark.

  • July 28, 2014 at 2:33pm

    Asked and answered many times, Dredge. The 80% or so of Jewish Americans that identify as non-observant have, largely, replaced the Torah and faith in the God of Israel with faith in progressivism. These Jews may pay lip service to the State of Israel, but when liberalism and Jewish values conflict (and they often do), they always take the liberal side. Of the 20% of Jewish Americans that identify as Torah-observant, roughly 2/3 vote consistently conservative, and strongly support the State of Israel.

  • July 28, 2014 at 2:28pm

    Agreed, RHS1991. However, there is a line that can be crossed. Terroristic threats and incitement to violence are criminal acts in this country. Also, while both sides are free to publicly protest, neither side has the right to shout down or silence the other. That is a denial of the civil rights of the side being silenced. If you demonstrate for a cause, and have your life threatened as a result, that has the chilling effect of discouraging you from exercising your first amendment rights. Ditto when someone speaking freely is shouted down by opponents. That is not free speech. That is censorship by a mob, and is a denial of free speech.

  • July 28, 2014 at 2:22pm

    No proof. Faith.

  • July 28, 2014 at 2:18pm

    @Pronoz: Islam is not like other religions. In spite of wars fought in the name of various religions in history, only Islam, within its texts, demands the conquest, colonization, and rule over the entire world and all within it. In the Judeo-Christian West, we have Judaism, which commands the conquest of the Land of Israel only, and does not seek to rule or control people or territory beyond the Land of Israel. We also have Christianity, which, which demands only that the faith be spread non-violently, and that while Christianity should be a universal religion, it does not insist on the conquest or colonization of nations in the political realm. Do not make the error of confusing the core beliefs of religions with their (mis)applications throughout history. Look at the texts themselves, and you will see that only Islam commands complete world conquest by the sword. Other than Islam, genuine religion benefits man by proffering a higher moral authority than mankind. Without this higher moral authority, freedom gives way to tyranny.

  • [33] July 25, 2014 at 2:51pm

    @thatguy: You get an “F” in history. After the Romans conquered Judea, they exiled some of the Jews, who remained a plurality in the Roman renamed Palestine until at least the second Jewish revolt some 45 years later. Even after that, Jews were a significant minority in what became Byzantine Palestine after the Roman Empire fell. Arabs, from Arabia, were a rarity in Palestine, mainly visiting traders, and were insignificant there until the Islamic invasion of the 7th Century. The Muslims came to attack the Byzantine Christians and colonize Palestine under Islam. Today’s Arabs in the Levant are the descendants of those 7th Century invaders. How you can post your trash while being so completely uneducated boggles the mind. You don’t know enough to have an opinion, that guy!

  • [6] July 25, 2014 at 2:44pm

    Nobody “stole” the land from anybody. When two sides fight a war, and one side loses, the victor controls the land. In the case of Ottoman Palestine, the Allied forces captured it in WWI when they defeated the Turks. It was the decision of the League of Nations to adopt the Balfour Declaration, spelled out at the San Remo conference, which designated Britain as the temporary caretaker of the Palestine area until it could be set up as a Jewish homeland. And that was exactly what happened (although it was not a smooth transition by any means). So, where in that narrative has land been “stolen” from anyone, Ms. Pig? As for the Jewish people’s legitimate claims to the Land of Israel, the Arabs don’t have a case to deny that at all. You should read this book, you know, when you finish reading The Protocols of the Elders of Zion for the 28th time (btw, it was a forgery).

  • [4] July 25, 2014 at 2:35pm

    Agreed. I have read it, and it opened my eyes to the facts of British Mandate-era Palestine. The Brits were as much to blame for getting this conflict started as were the Muslims. It’s also extremely well researched and documented. Katz also wrote the definitive biography of Ze’ev Jabotinski, the Russian Zionist. I am reading that book now.

  • [3] July 25, 2014 at 2:33pm

    Herr Archon conveniently starts history right where it serves his anti-Semitic purposes, right around 1947, or so. Sadly for Herr Archon, the history of the Jewish (as in Judea) people in their land goes back several thousand years before 1947. In fact, no people extant has ever had a sovereign nation based in the Land of Israel, with Jerusalem as its capital, except for the Jewish people. The Arabs (as in Arabia) of the Levant are simply the remnants of the invading Islamic armies of the 7th Century that attacked Byzantine Palestine in order to colonize and exploit it. They were defeated, most recently, in WWI, and the victors of that conflict have allowed the Jewish people to return to their land from their 2000-year exile. The Jews have no obligation to tolerate those who would kill them and steal their land. It’s called self-preservation, a God-given right it seems only the Jews are not permitted to have. To Herr Archon and his ilk, the “good” Jews were the ones who marched quietly into the showers. Molon labe, Herr Archon.

  • [8] July 25, 2014 at 2:23pm

    Here’s a clue for Ashes/TruthSux: The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a forgery. The “international cabal of Jewish banksters” is a likewise a lie concocted by anti-Semites. Zionism is as much a part of Judaism as the resurrection is to Christianity. Without Zion, the Land of Israel, the Torah has no meaning and no authority. Only in The Land of Israel can the Jewish religion (which only became a “religion” – as opposed to a nationality) after Judea was destroyed by Rome) be fully observed. Unlike the jihadists, who proudly announce their intentions to carry out Holocaust 2.0, you will find no such documentation among the Jewish people, because, that…never…happened. TruthSux – you can repeat your anti-Semitic lies as often as you like, but that will not make them true. Sux, indeed.

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  • [15] July 25, 2014 at 2:17pm

    Well said, Naram-Sin! It should be obvious – where did all those fleeing Arabs go to? To their original homes in Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, Egypt and Syria, of course.

  • July 18, 2014 at 1:49pm

    That. Never. Happened. You can tell all the lies you like, Herr Dull Razor, but repeating a lie won’t make it true.

  • July 18, 2014 at 1:47pm

    Nice anti-Semitic rant, you troll. Guess what? The Jewish people have returned to their ancestral homeland after 2000 years of suffering at the hands of haters like you. They will fight for their land and their families. The State of Israel means the ghetto Jew that you loved so much is dead. The Israeli Jew is the Warrior Jew of old, and will no longer march quietly into the showers. And they really don’t care what haters like you think. Molon labe, Zionistscum.

  • July 17, 2014 at 1:07pm

    That is pretty much what our UN rep, Susan Power, has suggested in the past. Send in the US Marines to force Israel to cede 40% of its territory to create a hostile Muslim state that will immediately declare war on Israel.

  • July 17, 2014 at 12:56pm

    DLV – Don’t confuse Assad’s inability to destroy Israel with a lack of desire to do so. Assad replaced his father, and is the puppet to his father’s advisors, the same advisors who tried numerous times to destroy Israel. Assad has said numerous times that Israel is Syria’s enemy, and Syria remains in the same state of war against Israel that it has since 1948. It is Syria that houses and supports Hamas and Hizbolla, and Assad who aligns himself with Iran, the world’s biggest sponsor of Islamic terror. It is Assad who tried to secretly develop a nuclear weapon in cooperation with North Korea until an Israeli airstrike destroyed the Syrian nuclear facility. It is Syria that has armed Hizbolla in Southern Lebanon, and has done more to destroy Christians in Lebanon than anyone. He has protected minorities in Syria only, and only because Assad himself is part of a minority clan, and needs the support.

  • July 17, 2014 at 12:42pm

    Very unlikely that Goliath was Arabian, as the Palestinian Arabs are. Arabians did not really settle in the Levant until the 7th Century Islamic invation of Byzantine Palestine. Most likely, Goliath was a Philistine, and Phlistines are wholely unrelated to Arabs in ethnic and racial terms.

  • July 17, 2014 at 12:38pm

    The “Palestinians” are the remnants of the Islamic Arabian invaders of the 7th Century who came to colonize what was then Byzantine Palestine. The Jews (as in Judea) are the only people extant who ever have had a sovereign nation in the Land of Israel (The State of Israel is the third such state), with Jerusalem as its capital. Complete, total, utter, fail, Herr Stedham. Plus, if the Israelis really wanted to ethnically cleanse their land of Arabs, it would only take a day or two. But please, try to pardon those evil JOOOZZZZZ for trying to defend themselves, instead of marching quietly into the showers as you would surely prefer.

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