I just wonder who in the world raises these degenerate heathens?
We live in a sick and warped nation, and I fear it will only get worse.
Homosexuals are only 2.5% of the population, and they have 64% of the nation's syphilis they made up 57% of new HIV cases last year.
Lesbians have the highest rates of domestic assault, homosexual males do between 1/5 and 1/3 of all child molestations.
Children raised in homosexual households are 20 times more likely to be molested, and are 5 times more likely to attempt suicide.
World history shows us that when a super power nations accepts homosexuality as normal and natural, they soon after fall.
The Bible is very clear that homosexuality is wicked. The old Testament tells us that homosexuals are an abomination (Lev 18:22) and the New Testament lets us know that they are unnatural, and on their way to becoming a reprobate.
the family is the most basic building block of a nation. Homosexuality is an act against God, against the family, and against the nation.
Word. I started going to the Blaze to get away from shotty journalism. Face it, decent journalism is DEAD in America.
I agree. It's starting to seem like The Blaze is hiring Huffington Post wanna-bees. Well I've got news for Billy Hallowell, anyone 18 years of age or older that has sex with a a child 16 years or younger IS A SEXUAL PREDATOR! And if you are not mature enough to realize this Billy Hallowell, then perhaps you should leave journalism to the grown-ups!
It is somewhat sad that you have to look really hard and understand what law they are accused of violating before you realize this isn't a case about sexual orientation prejudice, this is a case of Statutory Rape.
Of course since we seem to have no problem changing any other law to accommodate homosexuals, why not change this one too while we're at it! What was it people we telling me about pedophilia never being possible due to age of consent laws?
Aw, is this too deep for your little pea brain to comprehend. Perhaps Media Matter's is more your speed.
My comments to RANGERSKIPPY who is asking "who raises these degenerates" - In the words of Hillary "It takes a village!"
(Committee’s of Correspondence), set up Mattechine Society founded by Henry Hay leading member of Communist Party to infiltrate culture and make homosexuality normal using Hollywood, media and education. Engineering society including changing the very definition of marriage is blocked by values of a Christian Civilization; Healthy nuclear families prevent the agenda of the left - The left has to destroy the biblical family. War always against traditional family.
These girls have a twisted sense of sexual identity given the government schools: Imorality promoted through schools, sex-ed curriculum paid for by tax dollars would shock most parents. Battle going on for hearts and minds of children – down in first grade with “Heather has two mommies” and “Daddy’s new roommate” gay pride parade and by 8th grade pass out condoms in school colors because that is so patriotic..
Started with Dewey in 1900’s really expanded since 1960’s. Hard LEFT has control of teachers unions and teachers colleges and dictates all educational policy. Those demonstrating against government and country in 60’s now tenured professors – writing text books – teaching teachers. Self-perpetuating. Discovered they could remake America through schools rather then throwing bombs!
AGENDA: GRINDING AMERICA DOWN
I think that the presentation is reasonable and factual. You don't agree with the lesbian subject matter.
I feel very sad for the people involved in this mess. All of them. I understand their points of view, but I think that the parents of the younger girl could have handled the situation differently - and much better. Everyone will be further damaged because of their actions, and it has probably cost them their relationship with their daughter. No good can come out of this at all. What a mess.
It's a sad day for all...
The parents of the younger child followed the law and reported a sexual predator who was preying on a minor. How in the h e double hockey sticks do you handle it better? Call the lesbo's parents and kindly ask that their adult daughter stop raping her own little girl? Please explain this to me.
Are you all insane???? These two young women were in a consenting relationship. There is nothing in the story to even suggest that they have had sex. If one of them was a man, would this be an issue? The younger girls parents are absolutely despicable and hatefully targeting a wonderful and promising young woman because she loves their daughter. This whole case is awful, it sounds like something coming from Iran, not the USA.
HP- Doesn't matter. Can't have a relationship with a minor. Get that through your skull. Be consistent. If this were a guy who did this the left would rave and rightfully so. Be consistent!
@Harry - actually a minor can not consent so the idea that this was two consenting people gets thrown out in a court of law. Now the real hangup here is if they had sex. If so, then this should be tried and prosecuted no differently than if the older girl was a boy. Which will result in conviction of sexual offense and she will be labeled and registered as a sexual predator for the rest of her life.
Do I think that is fair? No, but it is the standard in our society and she should get no preferential treatment just because she's female and a lesbian.
Actually, I would also be upset if an 18 year old boy was in a relationship with a 15 year old girl, and suddenly thrown in jail because her parents didn't like their relationship. I think that is pretty sickening too. The younger girls parents seem to have deliberately waited until she turned 18 so they could press charges. They should have spoken with the other girl and her parents if they had an issue with the relationship. They should have acted like adults, but no, they acted like 5 year olds, and may have ruined this promising young life, and robbed her of a future.
Hp- you still neglect to mention that it is still underage relationship. Can't happen. I'm outraged either way. Was the parent's response over the top? Maybe. But they are absolutely in the right for arresting here. It's against the law case closed.
I agree that the laws need to represent straight and gay couples equally. She should get no special or different treatment. I would be jut as upset here if the older girl was male. They had been in a relationship for a year. The younger girl's parents deliberately waited so they could press federal charges. The younger girl would be a matter of months shy of there not being any legal problem, and they had already been dating for a year. Those parents could have talked things out with the older girl and her parents like adults, but instead they vindictively attacked, and have ruined this girls future.
Harry, this happens to men all the time. Why do you think everyone always asks "how old are you?" before picking up a girl in a relationship. Promising young men have their reputation killed by the simple accusation of a relationship with a minor once you are over 18, just because it doesn't make the news doesn't mean it never happens. This girl is about to learn the hard way that law doesn't just target one gender or preference, it applies to all.
'What was it people were telling me about pedophilia never being possible due to age of consent laws?'
You have hit the proverbial nail on the head...
They are outraged that the parents took legal action in defense of their MINOR daughter...
Age of Consent means nothing to them...
So the relationship was totally legal and valid the day before she turned 18, and suddenly illegal, immoral and despicable the day after? Seriously, they are 3 years apart.
Yes, it angers me that young men have their lives ruined in such cases as well. Why is such a relationship perfectly valid one day, and illegal the next? I know we need a limit, and these two should not be having sex, but they are 3 years apart and had been dating a year already.
The younger girl is a minor, the older girl is barely 18. My parents are 3 years apart. They had been dating for a year. The relationship was perfectly valid and fine for that year, but when she turned 18, now she is arrested? There is a difference between dating someone as marrying them....
Hp- Where does it say in the article she was 17 when she started the relationship?
Yep. That is the law, you do not get to skirt the law because you are a girl or a lesbian. Also, what sort of parents raise such disgusting unfisciplined little brats, gross! "My daughter usually dates boys, but I didnt want to give her a hard time. That is the sort of parent I am."
Additionally, I would like to see a news organization dedicated to reporting uplifting and edifying news. How wonderful would that be?! When media outlets report isolated instances of outrageous and disgusting behavior they only normalize it, which perpetuates the behavior! I dont feel like coming on here every day to read about disgusting little perves, coupled with the fact that our country is going down in flames.
It say so in the second long quote. Please reread the story.
What kind of parents accept their child for who they are? What kind of parents allow their child to date another schoolmate they like? Only real parents do.
@RANGERSKIPPY But I thought you guys were always saying that the Old Testament laws are invalid because of Jesus' new covenant? So where in the New Testament is there a problem with homosexuality?
Hp- Okay ya I see it. That still doesnt make it ok. In MA I almost got in trouble for my relationship with a 14 year old when I myself was 16 years old. The age itself matters. And Florida 15 is too young in the consent column.
Checkingboth sides- Romans 1 check it out and read.
I would agree that it wasn't ok if they were having sex. 15 is too young no matter if you are gay or straight. But this story didn't say they were having sex. The relationship is fine. Nothing wrong with it.
'The younger girl is a minor, the older girl is barely 18. My parents are 3 years apart.'
This is not about your parents, so what they did is irrelevant. I find it ironic that you are disgusted when one of the girls is still a minor, only because it involves a lesbian relationship. You are a big proponent of telling others to stay out of the business of two CONSENTING adults when it comes to homosexuality, well, in this case, one is not a legal ADULT...yet. It is as simple as that...None of us know the inner dynamics involved, we can only speculate, and still...the girl is a minor. You disagree with the (age of consent-16) law that is currently in place, well then, what is an acceptable age...?
Hp- Fair enough. I guess that's what people are assuming here.
Have you even been reading my posts? I have said that the punishment is too harsh in similar cases where a boy is charged when dating a girl 3 years younger. I am saying that the laws are pretty stupid here. Why is the relationship perfectly valid one day, and then an abomination the day she turned 18? I agree that an age limit needs to be there. I agree that the 15 year old should not be having sex. But I think the punishment is so over the top, and the parents actions are so crazy, that this is a little ridiculous.
Firstly, according to both girls, the relationship was consensual, so there was only rape in the legal sense but not in fact.
Secondly, it appears that the parents were aware of the relationship but did nothing, including bringing the matter up with the older girl's parents, until they could make a criminal complaint.
How could they have handled it better? Well, if it had been me, I would have firstly spoken to my daughter with honesty and compassion. Then I would have spoken to the other girl's parents and gone on from there. I imagine that the relationship between the parent's of the younger girl and their daughter has been seriously damaged.
I have always been bemused by the American statutory rape law. It seems to make no allowance for love and compassion. I wonder how many teenagers have been convicted of this crime because they fell in love and took it to its inevitable conclusion...
The age of consent in NZ is 16, and even this is generally ignored. In my country girls are often "sexually active" at about 15 or 16. Parents rely on trust and counselling to avoid fallout. This is not to say that rape, or sex with a twelve year old, is tolerated. The penalties for that are severe.
I might add that if someone were to criticise a New Zealand teenager for their romantic liasons, they would be bluntly told to mind their own business. They might also get a smack in the ear to be going on with...
I should also add that I have two young daughters and I will inevitably be facing this situation myself in about 8 or 10 years. I don't expect it to be easy, but I hope to handle it better than the parents in this story...
Romans chapter one is new Testament, and it is very clear that homosexuality is wicked. It uses the word reprobate in speaking of homosexuals.
I can't believe you people actually believe this girl is a pedophile. She just turned 18, she dated this girl when she was 17, a minor at the time, and was completely legal. Inappropriate? Depends on who you ask. Sexual Predator? Statutory Rape? Pedophile?
Would you be calling the guy that if this wasn't homosexual based scenario?
Me, I don't believe it is in that case either.
'I am saying that the laws are pretty stupid here. Why is the relationship perfectly valid one day, and then an abomination the day she turned 18?'
Nowhere is it implied that the relationship was considered "valid" regarding the parents of the minor involved. What the parents didn't have until the other party turned 18 was legal recourse. This article is based on ONE side only, everything else is pure speculation.
'I would also be upset if this was a straight relationship.'
I have my doubts...
There have been some pretty horrific stories posted here on TheBlaze, yet the ONLY time you make an appearance is when the article is related to homosexuality...otherwise you are silent.
The relationship was legally valid until she turned 18, the younger girl's parents were just vindictive a-holes.
'the younger girl’s parents were just vindictive a-holes'
Whatever...There will never be a situation where you will be objective with regards to homosexuality, the other party will always be at fault. Always the victim...like the overused race card...
...such is the life of the militant homosexual...
"I just wonder who in the world raises these degenerate heathens?"
I wonder why you are judging. Does not the Bible warn us not to judge others? 'Degenerate heathens' certainly sounds like a judgemental description to me.
"World history shows us that when a super power nations accepts homosexuality as normal and natural, they soon after fall."
Can you cite references for this claim? First time I've heard it.
"The Bible is very clear that homosexuality is wicked. The old Testament tells us that homosexuals are an abomination (Lev 18:22) and the New Testament lets us know that they are unnatural, and on their way to becoming a reprobate."
And I question this because it seems the Bible we have today is NOT a 100% correct translation. I believe you will most likely try to tell me why it is, but before you do, please explain this to me (I truly want to learn more about this but there is so much conflicting information)...
Example: "'THOU SHALT NOT SUFFER A WITCH TO LIVE'. This interpretation of Exodus 22:18 provided encouragement to the witch hunters of the Renaissance, and justified their putting to death those they had identified as witches. Tens of thousands of unfortunates who, in some way or other, had earned for themselves the title "witch" had little hope of mercy when faced with the seemingly unambiguous nature of this command.
"The relationship was legally valid until she turned 18, the younger girl’s parents were just vindictive a-holes."
Well, guess what? She, in fact, DID turn 18. That makes her an adult. Gay, straight, bi, or "experimenting" is irrelevant. That is the law, and there are no exceptions. BTW, consent is also irrelevant if you are underage. Statutory rape is statutory rape regardless of whether or not all parties involved were "into it."
(Continued from last)
In the original Hebrew manuscript, the author used the word m'khashepah to describe the person who should be killed. The word means a woman who uses spoken spells to harm others - e.g. causing their death or loss of property. Clearly "evil sorceress" or "woman who does evil magic" would be the most accurate phrases in today's English usage for this verse.
It apparently does NOT mean those who proclaim witchcraft and use their belief for good yet the origanized religion I was brought up in certainly seemed to think it did.
Do you see why this is so confusing? It certainly seem that we have received a less than perfect translation of at least some parts of the Bible (I read the King James Version myself).
"the family is the most basic building block of a nation. Homosexuality is an act against God, against the family, and against the nation."
I agree with you that the family is a very important unit and needs to remain intact. However, I don't believe everyone must create their own family with children ... some will remain unmarried, some will not have children. Thus, it doesn't make sense that homosexuality is against the family (certainly some gay people are, but not all).
I love it when people like JHRUSKY find a liberal web site questioning what is minor semantics in the Bible and then all of a sudden they are self-proclaimed Biblical scholars. Those of us who read, study, and beleive the Bible clearly don't understand as well as the heathen do.
You also clearly don't understand or grasp the basic New Testament theological principal of the Levitcal laws fullfilment by Christ. It's impossible to teach a theology class in a post but I'll try and sum it up for you.
1.) You are apparently a Bible - hater so nothing I can prove to you will change your mind because it's your heart that has the problem.
2.) The Levitical Laws given to Moses by God was expressly for the children of Israel to keep them healthy and safe both spirtually and physically. Doctors have written books on why the Jewish diet and hygene laws allowed them to live longer than their pagan contemporaries.
3.) The OT laws were just and holy and still is. But, the Messiah brought God's grace and has postponed the harsh judgement of the OT until the Tribulation period when God's wrath will be poured out on the Earth.
4.) Homosexuality is an abomination unto God. It is throughout the Bible. Regardless of what HARRY POTTER says on here. He is clearly unlearned and/or lying.
5.) God loves homosexuals and desires them to repent just as any sinner. A true Christian does not believe he is better than a homosexual or anyone because we know we were once God's advers
"Are you all insane????"
Welcome to far right-wing belief system. They will tell you what you can/cannot do. They claim to want freedom, but only THEIR version of freedom.
"These two young women were in a consenting relationship. There is nothing in the story to even suggest that they have had sex. If one of them was a man, would this be an issue?"
I believe you're correct ... no sex was mentioned. This a completely LEGAL, be it 2 girls, 2 boys or a girl and a boy. A 'relationship' can be best friends. It does NOT mean sex is involved. While a parent may want to watch a close relationship (no matter what age they are if they're still in school), that relationship is not proof of shenanigans going on.
"The younger girls parents are absolutely despicable and hatefully targeting a wonderful and promising young woman because she loves their daughter. This whole case is awful, it sounds like something coming from Iran, not the USA."
Agreed, but as I said, welcome to the far right-wing belief system.
A child is not capable of being in a consenting relationship. That's why they can not be held to a legal contract under 18 here mate.
A 15 year old should not be engaging in sex anyways. Much less abominable, immoral, un-natural sex with an adult woman.
"I love it when people like JHRUSKY find a liberal web site questioning what is minor semantics in the Bible & then all of a sudden they are self-proclaimed Biblical scholars.Those of us who read, study & beleive the Bible clearly don’t understand as well as the heathen do."
So when I say "(I truly want to learn more about this but there is so much conflicting information)" you take that to mean I know more than those who read & study the Bible for truth?
"You are apparently a Bible–hater so nothing I can prove to you will change your mind because it’s your heart that has the problem."
And you are 100% certainly wrong in that statement.
"The Levitical Laws given to Moses by God was expressly for the children of Israel to keep them healthy & safe both spirtually & physically."
I believe that, but this brings up the question of the 10 Commandments-were they also only for the children of Israel?
"The OT laws were just & holy and still is. But, the Messiah brought God’s grace & has postponed the harsh judgement of the OT until the Tribulation period when God’s wrath will be poured out on the Earth."
This confuses me-these laws are just & holy, but meant for the children of Israel, not everyone? If that is the case, even the judgement of the OT will be poured out on people that those laws are not for?
"Homosexuality is an abomination unto God.It is throughout the Bible."
Again knowing what the original stated concerns me. Seem
But in Florida, a 16 year old on their 16th birthday is allowed to have sex with someone who is 23 years and 364 days old. Go figure that one out for me.
"[No] sex was mentioned. This a completely LEGAL, be it 2 girls, 2 boys or a girl and a boy."
That is true, at least as far as this particular article is concerned. She is charged with "sexual battery," but details of what constitutes that charge are omitted. It doesn't mean there aren't any incriminating details but I would think, to make the charge stick, there had to be something. These days, who knows? I would suggest waiting for more info, just like the story of the boy who "accidentally" left a shotgun in his truck at school (or was it 2 shotguns?). We later learned he knew all along. Strangely, I don't recall seeing that update mentioned here at The Blaze.
May 6, 2013 at 8:58am
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. He knows whats best for you….
February 19, 2013 at 9:09am
February 13, 2013 at 5:15pm
I hope John Roberts is enjoying all that bribe …….
First there was Benedict Arnold and now over two hundred years later we have John Roberts !
I don't think Roberts was bribed, I think he was extorted. His decision was loopy, especially for someone of his calibur. Kinda like how previous California gov Schwarzenegger went from steadfast conservative to a whimp rino while in office. Then when he was no longer in office it's like magic, we learn he had a love child by his maid for which Maria dumps him. Just a thought.
February 12, 2013 at 4:29pm
I think the main problem was the islamic cleric. A similar situation happened after 9/11. Missouri Lutheran pastors cannot participate if its an “interfaith” service because they do not see the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob and the Lord Jesus Christ as being the same diety that they Muslims worship.
Makes sense to me.
February 12, 2013 at 4:25pm
The Pastor understood the rules of his denomination. Those he promised to uphold. He deliberately broke them. I think he got off easy. And for people who are not members of this denomination, its really not their business.
There really isn't anything more arrogant or ignorant than a domination or its members believing that they are the chosen by god, are closer to god, understand the word of god or carry out his will better than any other faith. The absurd amount of religious denominations within the christian faith is a testimony to the arrogance of people and the belief they can interpret the bible differently from what is actually said. Let's keep in mind that the Old Testament is actually the religious book of another religion. One who believes they are the chosen people.
@ JROOK... you posted "Let’s keep in mind that the Old Testament is actually the religious book of another religion. One who believes they are the chosen people."
Hate to rain on your parade but the Jewish kinship is the chosen people (for specific reason(s)). To further your thought process, the "followers of the way" or more recently applicable, the "christians" are heirs to adoption into the Kingdom of God. To understand it any other way is to remove the entire context of the OT and what Paul refers to in Romans 9-11.
God still has plans for the remnants of Israel.
Who knows, perhaps with all the tension between the current state of Israel and those whom want to destroy her from "the face of the earth" (ie. Iran in this particular case), God will fulfill his choice.
Or you can reread the intent of why the story line runs through Israel (as a chosen people from which the Savior will come).... Just saying.
RET_FIELDOP - It's a stretch, to say the least, that the almighty deity that created the universe has a favorite piece of real estate in the desert. But to say that this deity has a favorite race of people is, well, pretty damn ridiculous. It might be the stupidest thing I ever heard, were it not for "and if you don't believe in this deity, you will be tortured for all eternity"
RET_............Romans9:6 "For not all who [spring] from Israel are really Israel."
Matthew 23:37,38 Look! Your house is abandonded to you."
Matthew 21:42,43 This is why I say to you, The kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits."
Galatians 6:15,16 speaks of a new creation "the Israel of God"
Galatians 3:26-29 "Abraham's seed" Those who belong to Christ and who are spirit-begotten sons of God
1 Corinthians 11:25 "the new covenant
Romans 11:25,26 "He is not a Jew who is one on the outside upon the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one on the inside.
When they killed God's son ans said "We have no king but Caesar" The aposles first preached to the Jews then turned to the nations.
Acts 15:14 ........God for the first time turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name.
When God made a covenant with Israel He said if you obey and listen to my voice. When they obeyed they were blessed but we know that many times they did not. A new nation began at Pentecost 33ce "Spiritual Israel" or "the Israel of God"
February 11, 2013 at 3:18pm
Hey YOURSENSE thats really big of you to let his son marry your daughter. But would you let him take her to church? A tea party rally?
February 8, 2013 at 1:28pm
February 5, 2013 at 10:20am
A teacher that told the truth in a debating situation. He should be commended, not suspended.
January 29, 2013 at 3:56pm
World War I was fought because the revisionist powers wanted it fought. France wanted Alsace Lorraine and Russia wanted the Dardanelles. The West paid a terrible price for this.
World War I was fought, like every war has ever been fought, for profit. Understanding history or current politics only requires following the money.
Regardless of what France and Russia wanted, it could have been avoided had Austria-Hungary accepted the agreed-upon ultimatum that THEY foisted upon Serbia. Serbia accepted it, and A-H went to war anyway. Really, the war began because the Austrio-Hungarians wanted to slaughter Serbs.
January 28, 2013 at 9:41am
There goes Encinom, being hateful and intolerant again.
January 18, 2013 at 9:33am
Third Archon, you are clueless.
[-1] January 16, 2013 at 1:14pm
That was a slam dunk!
August 10, 2012 at 11:50am
Ubama would have had you abort your daughter since she was not perfect! Wake up!!!!!
July 3, 2012 at 12:22pm
What we’re seeing really is a window into what…..July ……really looks like,”