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  • [1] November 20, 2014 at 6:15pm

    I think he meant where in Alabama, genius

  • [2] November 18, 2014 at 6:00pm

    Studebaker666
    “Thankfully, I could not care less about what the church thinks about me or where
    The Church thinks I’m going once I depart this mortal coil, I definitely don’t lose any sleep over it, to be sure.”

    You sure post a lot about a Church you could not car less about

  • [2] November 18, 2014 at 5:55pm

    As of April 11, 2011, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) has counted 5,948 clerics “not implausibly” and “credibly” accused in 1950-2010 of sexually abusing minors.

    Over the 60 year time frame, an average of 99 U.S. based Catholic priest have been credibly accused of sexual abuse (5,948/60 = 99.133)

    Currently there are approximately 100 married priests in the United States.

    People who hate the Catholic Church like to imply all Catholic priests are pedophiles; but why not say all Catholic priests are married? (equal numbers)
    Most will tell you no Catholic priest are married.

    The mainstream media has all but ignored the recent Associated Press report that the three major insurance companies for Protestant Churches in America say they typically receive 260 reports each year of minors being sexually abused by Protestant clergy, staff, or other church-related relationships.

    That would be 99 vs 260

    Let’s be clear: the report of abuse in Protestant Churches in no way clears guilty members of the Catholic Church — neither the predators nor those who moved them from church to church and put other young people in danger. But the report does give us better perspective. The problem of sexual abuse has no denominational boundaries.

  • [1] November 18, 2014 at 5:50pm

    MindofGOP

    Here’s “a few” Anglican & Episcopalian church abuse scandals. http://www.reformation.com/CSA/episcopalianabuse.html

    Here are a few more nonCatholic ones:
    http://www.reformation.com/CSA/variousabuse.html

  • [2] November 18, 2014 at 5:45pm

    Russell died in 1916 and was succeeded by “Judge” Joseph R. Rutherford. Rutherford, born in 1869, had been brought up as a Baptist and became the legal adviser to the Watch Tower. He never was a real judge, but took the title because, as an attorney, he substituted at least once for an absent judge.

    At one time he claimed Russell was next to Paul as an expounder of the gospel, but later, in an effort to have his writings supplant Russell’s, he let Russell’s books go out of print. It was Rutherford who coined the slogan, “Millions now living will never die.” By it he meant that some people alive in 1914 would still be alive when Armageddon came and the world was restored to a paradise state.

    Rutherford said that in 1925 Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the prophets would return to Earth, and for them he prepared a mansion named Beth Sarim in San Diego, California. He moved into this mansion (where he died in 1942) and bought an automobile with which to drive the resurrected patriarchs around. The Watch Tower Society quietly sold Beth Sarim years later to cover up an embarrassing moment in their history, namely another failed prophecy.

    Skunkbear is an “expert” on who is to be trusted

  • [2] November 18, 2014 at 5:42pm

    Patriot
    Skunkbear is a Jehovah’s Witness.
    He wants to question the authority of the Catholic Church, but he belongs to this?

    Jehovah’s Witnesses was started by Charles Taze Russell
    He was raised a Congregationalist, but at 17 he tried to convert an atheist to Christianity and ended up being converted instead—not to outright atheism, but to agnosticism.
    Some years later he went to an Adventist meeting, was told that Jesus would be back at any time, and got interested in the Bible.

    Russell promoted what he called “miracle wheat,” which he sold at $60 per bushel. He claimed it would grow 5 times as well as regular wheat. In fact, it grew slightly less well than regular wheat, as was established in court when Russell was sued.
    Later he marketed a fake cancer cure and what he termed a “millennial bean” (which a wag has said probably got that name because it took a thousand years to sprout).

    Russell taught his followers the non-existence of hell and the annihilation of unsaved people (a doctrine he picked up from the Adventists), the non-existence of the Trinity (he said only the Father, Jehovah, is God), the identification of Jesus with Michael the Archangel, the reduction of the Holy Spirit from a person to a force, the mortality (not immortality) of the soul, and the return of Jesus in 1914.
    When 1914 had come and gone, with no Jesus in sight, Russell modified his teachings and claimed Jesus had, in fact, returned to Earth, but that his return was invisible.

  • [2] November 13, 2014 at 10:55am

    I Thess 4:16-17
    and with the trump of God
    Matt 24:30-31
    with a great sound of a trumpet

    I Thess 4:16-17
    Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up
    Matt 24:30-31
    and they shall gather together his elect

    All of this is Biblical evidence disproves pre-tribulation “rapture”

    THE CHURCH WILL GO THROUGH THE GREAT TRIBULATION WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!!

    ONLY THE TRUE “WALK THE WALK” BELIEVERS WILL BE WORTHY OF GLORY.

    STOP DECEIVING YOURSELVES AND COME TO THE TRUTH
    Pre-Tribulation rapture is a man-made lie

  • [2] November 13, 2014 at 10:54am

    : the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

    Do you see the correlation between all these verses?

    They all describe the same celestial events:
    Sun & moon darkened, stars shall not give their light

    Let’s go to Matt 24:29
    Here the disciples have asked Christ what will precede his second coming

    29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken”

    CHRIST, BY DESCRIBING THE SAME CELESTIAL ANAMOLIES, HAS JUST SET A TIMELINE FOR THE DAY OF THE LORD (RAPTURE) AS HAPPENING AFTER THE GREAT TRIBULATION!!!

    Wait, He goes on:
    30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    Do you see that this description lines up perfectly with the famous “rapture” passage of I Thess 4?

    Look at the similarities:
    I Thess 4:16-17
    For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout
    Matt 24:30-31
    They shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven

    I Thess 4:16-17
    with the voice of the archangel
    Matt 24:30-31
    And he shall send his angels

  • [2] November 13, 2014 at 10:51am

    Read the famous “rapture” verses

    I Thess 4:16-17
    For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    Most people stop right here but if you continue reading there is a clue to the timing of this event.
    I Thess 5:1-2
    1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
    (I think we can all agree that here, he is still addressing the “rapture” subject in the above verses)
    2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
    (Again, he’s still in context with the famous “rapture” verses. Look at how he refers to this event by: the day of the Lord)

    What does the Bible tells us about the day of the Lord:
    Joel 2:31
    31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.
    Joel 3:14-15
    14 …for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision. 15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
    Isaiah 13:9-10
    9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. 10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light:

  • [2] November 13, 2014 at 10:48am

    So what are we told in the pre-tribulation rapture theory?

    We are told that Christ will “gather” His people BEFORE the tribulation and separate the “wheat and the tares” BEFORE the harvest.

    And yet what does it clearly state in the Bible verse above?
    That the separation only takes place AT the harvest.

    “Oh but the rapture IS the harvest!”

    Ok. So according to those who hold to the pre-trib rapture theory, the harvest takes place BEFORE the tribulation and BEFORE the end of the world.
    This is clearly what they believe because according to this teaching, the world continues for another 7 years or 1,000 years or …

    What does Christ Jesus our Teacher say about this?

    Matthew 13:38-40 …’The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.’

    Thank you Jesus for giving us the clear truth on this matter, so that we should not be deceived!

    The rapture theory teaches a separation BEFORE the end.
    But the Bible clearly teaches that there is NO separation before the end.

  • [2] November 13, 2014 at 10:45am

    “ Truth ALWAYS trumps THEORY – ALWAYS”
    The Antichrist must come before the “Rapture”
    The Tribulation must come before the “Rapture”
    The Sun and Moon Must be Darkened before the “Rapture”
    The Lord Must descend from Heaven with a Shout before the “Rapture”
    Jesus Must Return before the “Rapture”
    There is only one resurrection for those who are God’s people
    God promised that Christians would suffer
    Pre-tribulation Rapture is a man-made doctrine that exists nowhere in the Bible

    These are Biblical facts

    Matthew 13:24-30 …’Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; [NO] lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.’

    The Word of God. It is so clear, we need not second guess what is going to happen.

  • [2] November 13, 2014 at 10:43am

    The Romans were literally snatching some woman and leaving the rest to tell the story.

    (Matthew 24:29-31)
    “But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken, and then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.”

    After the tribulation

    Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins use this verse to support the Rapture Theory:

    Luke 17:26 “and as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of Man”
    Who was taken and who was left behind in the days of Noah?
    8 were saved and the rest were “taken”.
    Did you know Muslims also have a version of the Rapture?

    Jesus said:
    “I will tell the reapers to first gather the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them” The unsaved are gathered and burned before the saved receive their reward

    Study the Bible for yourself, searching for the truth, not to reinforce what was taught, but to truly seek for the truth itself concerning this matter.

  • [2] November 13, 2014 at 10:38am

    Matthew 24, 40
    “The two will be in the field, one will be taken and one will be left behind”
    Where will these people be taken? Heaven?

    Let look at the same story according to Luke
    Luke 17:31-37
    31 On that day, the one who is on the housetop and whose goods are in the house must not go down to take them out; and likewise the one who is in the field must not turn back. 32 Remember Lot’s wife. 33 Whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left. 35 There will be two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left. 36 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left.” 37 And answering they said to Him, “Where, Lord?” And He said to them, “Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered.”

    KJV mistranslates as eagles – no other translation has eagles.
    The Greek aetos can be translated either way, but think about it what kind of birds are where the bodies are?

    Matthew 24:28 “Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather”
    Does that sound like Heaven to you?

    Jesus is prophesizing about a real event that took place in 70AD when Titus and the Roman Legions rolled through Jerusalem and butchered and estimated 1.5 million Jews.
    A covenant judgment on Israel.
    Josephus wrote about it.

  • [2] November 13, 2014 at 10:35am

    Pre-tribulation rapture is a man-made lie.
    It is not found in the Bible
    It was never taught by anyone prior to the 19th century…no one

    The word Rapture is connected to the Latin word rapiemur, which appears in Paul’s first letter to the Thessalonians in the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible.

    It means to be raised up or caught up:
    The dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord. (1 Thess. 4:16–17)

    The theological notion of ”rapture”, however, was invented 184 years ago.

    In 1830, in Port Glasgow, Scotland, fifteen year old Margaret MacDonald had a vision concerning the return of Christ. Her vision was adopted by John Nelson Darby a British minister and founder of a denomination called the “Plymouth Brethern.”

    In 1909, an American, C. I. Scofield, pubished an annotated version of the “King James” translation of the Bible called the “Scofield Reference Bible.”
    Scofield’s annotations were based on the theology of John Nelson Darby.
    The “Scofield Reference Bible” popularized the teachings of Darby. Fundamentalist Christians in the U. S. adopted Scofield’s Bible as authoritative. With the rise of fundamentalism in the U. S. in recent years, the popularity of the theological notion of the “rapture” has also gained popularity.

    Pre-tribulation rapture does not appear in the Bible.

    Jesus’ second coming does not happen twice.

  • [2] November 13, 2014 at 10:21am

    You know somebody who knows somebody who talked to somebody who might know something about a document that might exist in the Vatican?

    That’s amazing.
    Was the document written by Bigfoot?

  • [5] November 11, 2014 at 5:55pm

    They are mentioned because they were the patriarchs of two of the later tribes (or “half-tribes”) that everyone in ancient Israel knew about.

    And it contains a thrilling tale of how God answers prayer and will protect those who turn to him from the machinations of others—just like multiple accounts in the Old Testament.

    Are there particular reasons to think that Jesus was not married?
    Yes.
    Among other things, Jesus points to celibacy as a spiritual ideal, saying that this gift is not given to everyone but should be accepted by those to whom it is given (Matt. 19:11-12).

    Since Jesus was considered himself the paragon of spirituality for Christians, it would be strange for him to propose this spiritual ideal if he himself did not meet it.

    Further, Jesus depicts himself as a bridegroom (Matt. 9:15, 25:1-10, cf. John 3:27-30), but the marriage he has is a mystical one, not a literal one, for the New Testament portrays the bride of Christ as his Church, not as an individual woman (2 Cor. 11:2, Eph. 5:22-33, Rev. 19:7, 21:2, 9).

    It is difficult to see how this understanding of the Church as the bride of Christ could have arisen if there were a literal “Mrs. Jesus.”

    By virtue of her marriage to Jesus, she would have instantly become a prominent figure in early Christianity, and her status as the literal bride of Christ would have prevented the understanding of the Church as the mystical bride of Christ from developing.

  • [3] November 11, 2014 at 5:53pm

    She and Joseph later had two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, who became the patriarchs of two of the tribes of Israel.

    You can read the biblical account of Joseph in Genesis 37-50, and we read about his marriage to Asenath in Genesis 41:45, 50, and 46:20

    If you go into a Christian bookstore today—be it Protestant or Catholic—you are likely to find novelizations of the lives of various biblical and historical figures.

    These may be fictionalized lives of Old Testament saints, like Abraham and Moses, New Testament saints, like Peter or Paul, or saints from later Church history, like Augustine or Francis of Assisi.

    Out of the same impulse, a desire to know an imagine more about what famous religious figures’ lives were like, Jews and Christians in the ancient world sometimes wrote fictionalized lives of their forebears, and that’s what the ancient work known as Joseph and Asenath is: It’s a fictionalized account of the lives of the Old Testament patriarch Joseph and his wife.

    So this isn’t a coded story about Jesus. It’s a straightforward historical novel about two familiar Old Testament figures.

    It addresses questions that an ancient Jewish audience would have, like how a pagan priest’s daughter could marry a biblical patriarch.

    It’s mention of Joseph’s and Asenath’s two sons—Ephraim and Manasseh—is not to tell us about sons of Jesus and Mary Magdalen.

  • [3] November 11, 2014 at 5:50pm

    First, the text in question is not “lost.” It is not some newly discovered work that scholars were previously unaware of.

    The particular manuscript that Jacobovici and Wilson rely on was brought to the British Museum for more than a century and a half ago, and the same text has been known through other sources for centuries.

    The scholarly community has been well aware of it, and translations of it in English and other languages are common.

    To give you an idea of how not-lost this work is, it’s been in print for centuries
    Here’s one you can read online: https://archive.org/details/josephasenathco00broo

    The work is also not a Gospel. Although some scholars use the term “Gospel” in surprising and misleading ways, a Gospel (in the literary sense) is a book about the life and/or teachings of Jesus.

    That is not what this text is. This text is not about Jesus. The story it tells is not even set in the first century, when Jesus lived.

    It’s set more than a thousand years before the time of Christ

    The work is also not a coded version of the story of Jesus. Instead, it’s a work of historical fiction about two figures we already know from the Old Testament: Joseph and Asenath.

    Joseph was one of the sons of Jacob. He angered his brothers, who sold him into slavery.

    Eventually, he ended up in Egypt, where he rose to prominence and married an Egyptian woman named Asenath, who was the daughter of an Egyptian priest.

  • [3] November 10, 2014 at 6:38pm

    At Trent Rome actually dogmatized the canon, making it more than a matter of canon law, which had been the case up to that point, closing it for good.

    A.D. 1535 – Myles Coverdale’s Bible completes Tyndale’s work, producing the first complete printed Bible in the English language. It includes the 39 Old Testament books, 27 New Testament books, and 14 Apocrypha books. (Again 80)

    A.D. 1536 – Martin Luther translates the Old Testament into the commonly-spoken dialect of the German people, completing his translation of the entire Bible in German.

    A.D. 1560 – The Geneva Bible is printed in Geneva, Switzerland. It is translated by English refugees and published by John Calvin’s brother-in-law, William Whittingham. The Geneva Bible is the first English Bible to add numbered verses to the chapters. It becomes the Bible of the Protestant Reformation, more popular than the 1611 King James Version for decades after its original release.

    A.D. 1611 – The King James Version (using Desiderius Erasmus version)

    A.D. 1881-1885 – The King James Bible is revised and published as the Revised Version (RV) in England.
    What was revised? Beside numerous spelling errors and other grammatical issues.

    Unknown to most Protestants, the original 1611 King James Bible and the Bibles published for the use of the clergy and the church members until late in the 19th Century, contained 80 books.
    “Apocrapha” included, removed by the Archbishop of Canterbury in 1885

  • [3] November 10, 2014 at 6:34pm

    A.D. 1381-1382 – John Wycliffe and associates believing that people should be permitted to read the Bible in their own language begin to translate and produce the first handwritten manuscripts of the entire Bible in English. These include the 39 Old Testament books, 27 New Testament books, and 14 Apocrypha books. (That’s 80 books)

    AD 1442 At the Council of Florence, the entire Church recognized the 27 books. This council confirmed the Roman Catholic Canon of the Bible which Pope Damasus I had published a thousand years earlier. All orthodox branches of the Church were legally bound to the same canon. This is 100 years before the Reformation.

    A.D. 1455 – After the invention of the printing press in Germany, Johannes Gutenberg produces the first printed Bible, the Gutenberg Bible, in the Latin Vulgate.

    A.D. 1516 – Desiderius Erasmus (a Catholic Monk) produces a Greek New Testament, forerunner to the Textus Receptus.

    AD 1536 In his translation of the Bible from Greek into German, Luther removed 4 N.T. books (Hebrews, James, Jude, and Revelation) and placed them in an appendix saying they were less than canonical.

    AD 1546 At the Council of Trent, the Catholic Church reaffirmed once and for all the full list of 27 books. The council also confirmed the inclusion of the Deuterocanonical books which had been a part of the Bible canon since the early Church and was confirmed at the councils of 373 AD, 397, 787 and 1442 AD.

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