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  • [1] September 15, 2014 at 1:38pm

    Macpappy

    are you saying Children under the age of reason can’t go to heaven?
    What about those mentally unable to understand Jesus or the Gospel?
    I suppose those “heathens” who live in tribal Africa who never saw a Bible are dammed too?

    it’s called invincible ignorance. Look it up.
    Before you condemn the Pope, maybe you should actually understand what he said

  • September 15, 2014 at 1:22pm

    Leave cwilcox alone he is right about the Falkland war

    Elvis set up a meeting between Francis and Hitler to discuss the best possible way for Argentina to get involved in the Falklands. After the Francis bought the ammo with re-claimed gold from the U.S. civil war, from his contacts with Jimmy Hoffa, Big Foot actually carried the missiles to the Falklands.

    The Jesuits then killed everybody involved to keep it secret. Know cwilcox has to live in secret, because the Jesuits are looking for him.

  • [4] September 12, 2014 at 12:44pm

    The biblical idea of peace clearly did not indicate a peace which was totally unbreakable.

    King David would have been shocked by the suggestion that, when God gave him peace (shalom) with his enemies, this meant they would never, ever, under any circumstances go to war with Israel again.

    Peace with God can be broken, but one must do something grave to break that peace.

    Does the fact that one’s name was written in the book of life when one came to God and received initial salvation mean that name will stay in the book of life until the last day, when you would receive final salvation?
    No.
    Scripture indicates in dozens of places that you can lose salvation, and it does so in specific connection with the book of life metaphor.

    In Revelation 3:5, Jesus states:
    “He who conquers shall be clad thus in white garments, and I will not blot his name out of the book of life; I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels.”

    The implication is that if you end up giving in to sin, your name will be blotted out of the book of life and you will be denied before God and the angels, something Jesus elsewhere emphasizes.
    (Mt 10:33, Lk 12:9)

    As Jesus puts it, “He who endures to the end will be saved” (Mt 10:22, 24:13; Mk 13:13). What happens if you don’t endure to the end? You lose salvation.

    Now watch as Rapture does one of 2 things
    Ignore the post entirely
    or
    Attach my character, my faith, my church

  • [7] September 12, 2014 at 12:40pm

    Para45

    Does Rapture have a teachable spirit?….No
    There is a reason he is unemployed. (watch his video…”I did all this on unemployment”)

    Assurance of Salvation/Once saved always saved?
    Not according to the Bile
    Mt 7:21 – not everyone saying Lord, Lord will inherit
    Mt 24:13 – those who persevere to the end will be saved
    Rom 11:22 – remain in his kindness or you will be cut off
    Phil 2:12 – work out your salvation in fear and trembling
    1 Cor 9:27 – drive body for fear of being disqualified
    1 Cor 10:11-12 – those thinking they are secure, may fall
    Gal 5:4 – separated from Christ, you’ve fallen from grace
    2 Tim 2:11-13 – must hold out to end to reign with Christ
    Hb 6:4-6 – describes sharers in Holy Spirit who then fall away
    Heb 10:26-27 – if sin after receiving truth, judgment remains

    I’ve heard Romans 5:1 (“since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God”) means that we can never lose our salvation.

    First, the best manuscripts of Romans do not say “we have peace” but “let us have peace,” making it an exhortation to have peace with God, or, more properly, to continue in the peace we were given in justification.

    Anyone in a state of justification does have peace with God. But the fact that someone has peace now doesn’t mean that peace can’t be broken.

    If you commit mortal sin, you break the peace with God by turning away from him, and you lose the peace and justification you had.

  • [1] September 12, 2014 at 10:29am

    Even if you are 100% correct and you prove all Christians are wrong.

    How does that prove being Muslim is right?

    Christianity is a continuation of Judaism. Jesus is the fulfillment of the Jewish promises. Many Christians would simply become Jewish and wait for the Messiah.

    If you could prove Christianity is wrong, the Jewish population would increase. That’s what you want to do?
    Increase the number of Jews in the world?

  • [1] September 12, 2014 at 9:20am

    “I seek to prove you and a billion Christians wrong and me and a billion Muslims right.”

    And to do so you have to redefine words, split hairs and cherry pick Bible verses out of context. All the while you own Holy Book plainly states Muhammad was a tool of Satan.

    Good luck with that

  • [1] September 12, 2014 at 9:18am

    Muhammad preached to demons
    “He (the Holy Prophet) said: There came to me an inviter on behalf of the Jinn and I went along with him and recited to them the Qur’an.” (Huslim, Book 4, Hadith 903)

    But in the Qur’an 4:38 it says: “If any take the Evil One for their intimate, what a dreadful intimate he is”.
    And Muhammad’s devil became Muslim.

    But according to Muhammad, devils don’t even listen to the words of Allah;
    Their Trick? Passing wind with noise!! (Bukhari, Book 1 Volume 11, Hadith 582)

    Muhammad was a bewitched prophet. “Magic was worked on Allah’s Apostle so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not. (Bukhari, Book 7, Volume 71, Hadith 660)

    The authority of Satan according to the Qur’an 16:98-100: “When thou dost read the Qur’an, seek Allah’s protection from Satan the rejected one. No authority has he over those who believe and put their trust in the Lord. His authority is over those only, who take him as a patron and who join partners with Allah.”

    As you can see from earlier, Muhammad received and spread messages from Satan. Muhammad was a tool of satan.

    “The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you” Romans 16:20

    Or big question:
    Is Jesus the Christ? The Chosen One? The son of God
    verses
    Was Muhammad a murdering, pedophile tool of Satan?

  • [1] September 12, 2014 at 9:12am

    Muhammad himself feared that a demonic figure had appeared to him. “The Messenger of Allah said to Khadijal ‘When in seclusion, I hear someone calling and saying, O Muhammad, O Muhammad”…and I fear that it is one of the djinns.” (Al-Sirat al-Halabiya, by Al-Halabi, v.1, p.377)

    Muhammad admittedly received a message from Satan and delivered it to the people as if it were from God. (Qur’an 53:19-20, 17:73-75, 22:52-53)

    Muhammad and his followers bowed down in honor of receiving this satanic revelation. Allah’s response? “Don’t worry about it Muhammad. All prophets proclaim satanic messages from time to time.” (That sounds right to you?)

    Qur’an 22:52 “Never did We send a messenger of a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom”

    Servant of Allah, why do you keep referring to the Bible and Jesus if no messenger was sent before Muhammad?

    Can the Qur’an be trusted if the Prophet can’t distinguish between Godly and Satanic inspiration?

    Muhammad received and spread lies from satan.
    Quar’an 26:221-222 “Shall I inform you, (O people), on whom it is that the evil ones descend? They descend on every lying, wicked person” “Satan, the deceiver of the whole world”…Revelation 12:9

  • [1] September 12, 2014 at 9:09am

    Like I said before. You don’t have to accept the truth.
    But I will post it

    Muhammad’s mental condition was a matter of concern since his childhood, his wet nurse thought he was demon possessed (biography of the Prophet by Ibn Hisham page 60)
    Muhammad used to wear a talisman to ward off the Evil Eye. (Ash-Shifa by Qadi ‘Iyad page 245) (Wearing talismans are idol worship?)

    The “revelations” came to him like the ringing of a bell (Bukhari, Book 1, Volume 1, Hadith 2)And his face would change color. (Muslim, Book 30, Hadith 5766)
    When he was at the cave of Hira an angel (Gabriel) came to him , squeezed him and said: “Read” (Bukhari, Book 1, Volume 1, Hadith 3) Muhammad was so horrified that he ran to his wife Khadija and said: “Cover me! Cover me!”
    (Your prophet hid behind a woman?)

    Compare that to the angel (Gabriel) when he appeared to Mary in Luke 1:28. “Peace to you, full of grace, our Lord is with you; you are blessed among women.” Mary, a woman, didn’t run and hide

    In his Tafsir (interpretation), Al-Qurtubi wrote: “A demon in the form of an angel” appeared to Muhammad. He added: “Al-Abyad (a demon) is the friend of the prophets and he is the one who went to the Prophet (pbuh) in the form of Gabriel.
    By the demon called Al-Abyad (the white one), he was reffering to the one that used to come to the Prophet in the form of Gabriel wanting to seduce him.”

    Muhammad the “founder” of your religion was in league with the devil.

  • [1] September 12, 2014 at 9:03am

    So now you arguing with yourself? Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah, but now “Even the Qur’an makes Jesus the messiah.” Make up your mind.

    Now you want to switch the conversation back to a “loosely” translated Christ? (Still grasping at straws)
    A messiah, literally, “the anointed” has come to be seen as a savior or liberator of a group of people, most commonly in the Abrahamic religions.
    Christ: the Messiah: according to the Bible, a savior who will come to deliver God’s chosen people
    Jesus also called Himself Sheppard.
    Jesus was not, and is not, accepted by most Jews as the Messiah
    Now all the words are defined. You want to change your argument now, then Ok. Jesus not only claimed to be the Messiah, the Christ. He also claimed to be the Son of God. Equal to God. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
    Thomas called Jesus My Lord and my God….Jesus did not correct Him
    Peter said “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”… Jesus said No, I’m only his anointed prophet. No wait, He never said that. He did say He was the way the truth and the light. No one can come to the Father but through Him.
    He also warned that false prophet would come after Him teaching a false gospel. I’m looking at the Qur’an right now.

    Again with the tempted argument?
    The devil did not know Jesus was God. The devil is not all knowing.
    He tried to tempt Jesus with wealth and power.
    Jesus was not tempted any more than it I tempted you with a bacon sandwich.

  • September 11, 2014 at 6:47pm

    I want to respond to one last thing
    Your logic doesn’t make sense here:
    You posted: ““The Jewish oligarchs were out to get Jesus by hook or by crook” WHY?”

    I told you why. It was expedient.

    Why was it expedient to kill Jesus? Because He was a preacher?
    Did they want to kill all preachers? That makes no sense at all.

    Was it expedient to kill Jesus because he turned over some tables?
    Why kill him and not just convince the Jews that Jesus was crazy?

    Was it expedient to kill Jesus because he had followers?
    There were lots of traveling preachers in the first century. Logic dictates Jesus was something different than these other traveling preachers. John the Baptist was one of them. Did they want to kill John? Why kill Jesus and not John?

    Jesus was usurping their authority. He was claiming authority over them. He was claiming divine authority over them. This is why they wanted to kill him.

    I know, I know
    “Don’t confuse me with the facts, I’ve got my mind made up”

  • September 11, 2014 at 6:38pm

    Servant.Of.Allah
    - Sep. 9, 2014 at 6:40pm .

    @ by faith- I want to start here: “Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.’””
    This is a statement by Jesus that in the unlimited Knowledge of God God Knew that He would send a messiah (not Jesus himself but a man with the title messiah)…

    Servant.Of.Allah
    - Sep. 9, 2014 at 6:41pm
    Jesus never claimed himself to be Divine.

    Servant.Of.Allah
    - Sep. 10, 2014 at 6:25pm .
    “I am’ is not a name.
    According to you it’s not…according to God and Moses it is

    “GOD CANNOT BE TEMPTED BY SATAN’
    God cannot be successfully tempted by Satan. Satan can attempt to tempt anyone he chooses. Just because he tried doesn’t mean Jesus was tempted.

    “Jesus is not a God.”
    According to you. But According to Jesus, the Apostles, Paul, dozens of church fathers and billions of Christians He is.

    You started this conversation with the implied attitude that you were simply a seeker of the truth.
    But you are not seeking anything but to be proven right.

    No amount of evidence will be good enough for you.
    You have made up your mind and the facts don’t matter.

    God gave you free will to accept this truth or reject it.
    That’s between you and God.

    As for Me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

  • [1] September 11, 2014 at 6:22pm

    Remember you said Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah.

    Here is another time (4th time I’ve given you)

    John 4
    Jesus Talks With a Samaritan Woman
    He came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, Jacob’s well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon.

    A Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.)
    The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?”
    Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”
    “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”

    The woman said, “I know the Messiah” (Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

    Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”

    Did Jesus ever claim or declare that He is the Christ
    Yes He did

  • [1] September 11, 2014 at 6:13pm

    I am forgetting nothing.
    The Pharisees and other ruling Jews knew who Jesus was.
    This has no effect on the question at hand.
    Is Jesus the Christ, is Jesus GOD?

    Expedient? That’s an over-simplification.
    They wanted to get rid of Jesus because He challenged their authority.
    He told people what these supposed leaders really were.

    Again you are muddying the waters with ancillary details.
    Jesus claimed to be the messiah, the Christ.

    This is the reason they gave for killing Him.
    They may (as you contend) not have believed Him, but He did say it.
    So Jesus was either a liar, a fool, or He was the Christ. Those are the facts.

    “Jesus never claimed Divinity nor Kingship.”
    For you to keep saying that is simply hilarious.
    I have given you proof in the “I am”
    I have shown you were to the face of Caiaphas he said He was the Messiah
    And now I’ll give you when Jesus told Pilate He was the Christ.

    So Pilate asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?” Jesus replied, “My kingdom is not from this world. If my kingdom were from this world, my servants would fight to prevent me being handed over…my kingdom is not from here.” Then Pilate said, “So you are a king!” Jesus replied, “You say that I am a king. I have been born and have come into the world for this reason—to testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens to my voice.” His Kingdom is not of this world, because His kingdom is in heaven. King of Kings.

  • [1] September 11, 2014 at 2:11pm

    Paul met Jesus on the road to Damascus
    But you have a right to your opinion too

    Thousands of people went to their deaths refusing to deny Jesus.

    Now people die everyday. This does not prove they are right, but it does speak to their conviction. 2,000 years ago thousands of people died rather than deny Jesus was the Christ. Many of these people knew Jesus personally.

    I’ll have to put a little more enfaces on their testimony than on your personal interpretation of scripture

    Good luck in your journey and may God Bless you

  • [1] September 11, 2014 at 2:06pm

    Why didn’t you try Philippians 2:6?
    Where it says Jesus didn’t seek after equality with God.
    How does this square with belief in his divinity?

    Context.
    Read the whole passage.
    You can’t leave out the part of the passage which speaks of Jesus as having been “in the form of God” before the Incarnation.

    This makes all the difference in the world in understanding what Paul is writing about.

    Apparently the apostle is quoting a primitive Christian hymn contrasting Adam and Christ.
    Adam, who was the “image of God” but not equal to God, tried to be equal to him (Gn 3:5).
    Christ, who was in the “form of God” and thus equal to God, didn’t think the prerogatives accompanying this equality were something to be “tenaciously held on to” (the Greek word used by Paul is harpagmon), but surrendered them to take on human nature and die on the cross (Phil 2:7-8).

    Paul goes on to note how God has bestowed on Jesus “the name that is above every name” and how “at the name of Jesus every knee should bend, of those in heaven and on Earth and under the Earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father” (Phil 2:9-11).

    This is a paraphrase of Isaiah 45:23, where God says, “To me every knee shall bend; by me every tongue shall swear.” By applying this to Jesus, Paul isn’t undermining the divinity of Christ, but acknowledging it.

    Isaiah 45 God says: To me every knee shall bend…
    Phil 2: Paul says at the name of Jesus every knee shall bend…

  • [1] September 11, 2014 at 1:58pm

    before you go off on a tangent, let me clarify the previous post.

    I know in John 2 he records Jesus as having chased the money changers out of the temple Matthew

    The narrative occurs near the end of the Synoptic Gospels (at Mark 11:15–19, 11:27–33, Matthew 21:12–17, 21:23–27 and Luke 19:45–48, 20:1–8)

    So 3 Gospel writers have it happening later

    Gospel of John (John 2:13–16) has it happening earlier.
    Some scholars believe that these refer to two separate incidents, given that the Gospel of John also includes more than one Passover.

    It could conceivable have happened more than once, but 3 Gospel writers say it happened later

    In the Gospel of John Jesus does refers to the Temple as “my Father’s house”
    Some see this as a claim to being the Son of God

    The evidence in mounting

  • [1] September 11, 2014 at 1:41pm

    You posted:
    The Jewish oligarchs were out to get Jesus by hook or by crook. It did not matter to them if Jesus was right or wrong, they wanted him done away with. Remember he had already upset the money-changers tables in the temple. Which was very profitable for the oligarchs. They were out to get him.

    For the record, none of this had happened yet in John 8.
    John 8 happens months BEFORE He turn over the tables of the money changers.

    “The Jewish oligarchs were out to get Jesus by hook or by crook” WHY?

  • [1] September 11, 2014 at 1:25pm

    Can a man raise the dead, heal the cripple, cure the blind?

    Jesus predicted His betrayal, Jesus predicted His death.

    Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
    Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
    Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?

    But you brought up Caiaphas
    Caiaphas desperately asked Jesus to convict himself. It was around 5am. ‘Declare under oath,’ he said, ‘if you believe that you are the Messiah’!

    And Jesus, knowing how his mission was to be accomplished, obliged.
    Jesus said, I am more than just the Messiah, the Son of David. I am The Messiah, the Son of Man, and the Son of God, that Daniel saw sharing power with God.

    Caiphas tore his robes and cried out, ‘you have all heard his Blasphemy! This man brings dishonor on God by claiming to be God’s equal.

    We need hear no more

  • [1] September 11, 2014 at 1:12pm

    25 “Who are you?” they asked.
    “Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied. 26 “I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is trustworthy, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.”
    27 They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father. 28 So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up[a] the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me. 29 The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him.”

    Jesus later says: I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence

    “Abraham is our father,” they answered.

    “If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did.
    “We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”
    Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.

    This is the context of the discussion. Jesus is repeatedly telling these people He was sent by His Father. Over and over He is telling them from where He came and by who’s authority. This is when He uses the unspeakable name God gave Himself in Exodus. This is when Jesus claims divinity along side God Himself.

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