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CafeConservative

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  • [34] July 9, 2014 at 7:43pm

    I’m a big fan of Dana’s but this call is such a non-issue.

    Rep: “May I talk to you about the immigration issue we were discussing on Twitter?”
    Husband: “Nope, Dana and I are on vacation and I’m only using Twitter and discussing politics at my complete leisure and convenience. Otherwise I’m spending time with my wife. Goodbye.”

    There was the fix. But her husband didn’t do that and we’re supposed to feel bad becauae he engaged in a 15 minute phone call? Someone who is put out doesn’t stay on the phone for 15 minutes. They hang up.

  • [6] July 9, 2014 at 7:39pm

    “There is no ulterior motive other than to provide immediate aid to those who need it at the moment. ” You know this how? How is his claim of “righteous” action any different than any liberal’s claim of “righteous” action. “It’s for the children.”

  • [53] July 4, 2014 at 12:38am

    As if 95% of congressional Republicans aren’t complicit in this. How long are we going to keep our heads in the sand?

  • June 13, 2014 at 6:24pm

    “You down-voters kill me.”

    You’re attacking their social club. It has nothing to do with truth or Jesus. Just as they are defending Harry Reid up thread. He doesn’t attack the church so he is free to be the disgusting man he is. He provides political clout to the church and so a blind eye will be turned to his behavior. This woman however threatens the political structure of the church and so she is considered a grave threat. Sin does not matter to these folks. Ignoring the Word means nothing to them. Attack the church and they will destroy you.

  • June 13, 2014 at 6:20pm

    “This is how you can believe in gay marriage, you can have gay feelings and still be a member of the Church.”

    Yes, you can worship a false Jesus by saying the Bible is corrupt and ignoring His words like, “But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” Or, “Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’” And finally, “For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.”

    But in your world, it is completely holy to support homosexual lusts and marriages. As I said earlier, it’s only a matter of time before the LDS openly support homosexuality because they worship a false Christ and are more worried about being a social club than adherents of God’s Word. It is merely matter of time before there is a “new revelation” saying just how holy and good homosexual behavior is.

  • June 13, 2014 at 6:08pm

    “As for Harry Reid, please tell me judge, what are his sins?”

    How about I give you a single category of sin in which he constantly engages? Bearing false witness. You say you follow him and disagree with him so one would conclude that you are aware of what he says and if that is true, you have been completely aware of his bearing false witness yet you speak of me judging contemptuously. So tell me how you and your church are godly. How can you defend someone who makes a habit of bearing false witness then scorning someone who brings that sin to light?

    And before you condescend to another person about judging, perhaps you should read Matthew 7. Make sure you read past the “judge not” verse because it gets flipped on its head just a few verses later. It may just make you a bit more educated on what Jesus actually directed us to do vice the practice of the bleating ignorati who just cry “judge not.”

  • June 13, 2014 at 5:58pm

    “He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.”

    “I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.”

    “They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.”

    “Declare these things; exhort and rebuke with all authority. Let no one disregard you.”

  • [-3] June 13, 2014 at 1:05am

    You admitted your ignorance. You whined about judging while judging people (“My ignorance may be showing, but your arrogance is certainly drowning it out.”), and more. The funny thing is how completely oblivious you are to your hypocrisy.

    “About this we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing. For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.”

  • [-2] June 13, 2014 at 12:21am

    “God’s nature has never been changed by revelation. The only thing revelation has ever changed is policy and temporal punishment, both of which change because we as humans change and require different “upbringing” in different ages…the same thing any good parent would do.”

    So accordig to you a good parent would have treated blacks less than equals because it’s the right thing to do which translates religiously as the holy thing to do.

    Maybe you want to rethink your thoughts on holiness, God, and blacks before you do any more damage to the image of the LDS.

    And by the way, treating blacks as less than equal is not a “policy” of God it’s a disgusting sin.

  • [1] June 13, 2014 at 12:15am

    “Replied before this showed up. Clarified in the above post. Thanks for the apology.”

    Perhaps our timing is still off. I’ll let this rest before we continue. I think your questions were answered within my last 2 posts.

  • [-3] June 13, 2014 at 12:12am

    Lots of dismissals of arguments but no actual counters. And re: HR, thanks for admitting that the church is about appearances and not following the Jesus of the Bible, NH4L. You make it abundantly clear that a Mormon can sin all he wants long as he’s not talking bad about the church.

  • [-3] June 12, 2014 at 11:49pm

    “If I misunderstood what you said in the first paragraph, I apologize for that. I thought you had said that TRC determines that about Jesus…if that’s not what you meant then I’m sorry.” Replied before this showed up. Clarified in the above post. Thanks for the apology.

    “But I still have some issue with your 1st paragraph. None of us knows who Jesus would condemn and who he would embrace.” Read your NT. We are told we are gong to judge the angels so why no the things of this world. We are commanded in multiple passages that we are to hold brothers and elders accountable to sins. That requires judgment. We are told to discern fruits of people. If you don’t think that’s judging you don’t understand the Bible at an elementary level.

    “I also suppose that if he wishes to condemn one person for something and not another, that is within he right to do so. I could see many cases where he would have to do that – but then again I don’t have monopoly on Jesus to say what He’d do.” It’s doesn’t take a monoploy. He made it clear who He is and what he believes and approves of and what he disapproves of and condemns,”“For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.” There is no guesswork needed. Just because a person is ignorant of such things, it doesn’t mean others are. Try and not project your unfamiliarity of Christ onto others.

  • [-3] June 12, 2014 at 11:37pm

    Try and hypocrite a little less, please. Unlike those here who judge then run around judging those who differ from them, I own up to making judgments just as I am commanded to do in Matthew 7 so you won’t shame me into silence when I’m making discernments. Your judging is pretty apparent by the way.

    “Just curious…where did I condemn anyone?” You accuse TRC of of claiming a monopoly on Jesus. It is a false claim but also a condemnation as a negative attribute by you but you already know this. You just hold yourself and those you agree with to a different (lower) standard than those you disagree with and we know what Jesus says about playing favorites.

    ” NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! I DON’T THINK SO…” There were two typos in that sentence. no = not and wht = what. I’m not sure why you took out the negating word, removed a comma, and took out the affirmative that Jesus has a monopoly on Jesus which provided the full context of my statement before you went running to the four winds to try and denounce my statement as some sort of completely false conclusion but I don’t get the impression that your’re looking for truth..

    “Who are you, or anyone else, including me, TRC, Happy, etc on this board to say otherwise?” Those who are gifted by the Holy Spirit and have the mind of Christ know the answer to that one. Those who lack such confusedly ask the question. Since you don’t have the answer, you won’t believe anyone else does and I can’t convince you other

  • [-4] June 12, 2014 at 10:39pm

    “you do not have a monopoly on Jesus! And neither do I nor Mormons.”

    Jesus has a monopoly on Jesus and what He says, no TRC, determines who He is, wht He is like, and who His true followers are. A Jesus that embraces homosexuals and their unrepentant behavior is not the same Jesus that embraces homosexuals yet condemns their behavior. One is the true Jesus and the other is a false idol. The same goes for many religious concepts. Either they are consistent with the actual Jesus or they are consistent with an idol.

    The funny thing is you condemn TRC but when you carefully read the proclamations of the Mormons, they are claiming they say they worship the same Jesus but if you look closely, they are actually saying they are worshiping the true Jesus and by their faith you can be saved, just not to the same level, by worshiping a shadow of that Jesus. If you listen to the leaders an prophets of Mrmonism in TRC’s video, they go a step further and say everyone else is actually worshiping a different Jesus. If you were consistent, you’d condemn not just TRC but everyone here for proclaiming a “monopoly” on knowing the real Jesus but you don’t. Says a lot about you.

  • June 12, 2014 at 9:33pm

    “So, TRC, what church do you belong to? Where did your church get its authority to preach the gospel and do what they do?” The Great Commission was directed at men, not churches. What Scripture are you reading that says otherwise? The spiritual gifts of the Holy Spirit are given to men, not churches. What spirit are you worshiping that empowers churches, not you?

    “Well, back in the first century, the Pharisees and Saducees considered Jesus and his followers a cult, too.” And God says that are there are many who are convinced that they are working miracles and casting out demons in His Name yet He will say to them, “I never knew you.”

    “BTW – Christ never put you in charge of judging anyone, anyway.” Sure He did. Read Matthew 7 and don’t be like other misquoters of the Bible and stop at “Judge not lest ye be judged.” You are commanded to remove the speck from your brother’s eye which requires judging behavior.

    “Only He knows who is and who isn’t one of his followers and He’s the only judge.” Except we are told that we have the same mind as Him. ” “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.” And by the way, you seem quite judgmental yourself as do many Mormons here which you lack the intellectual honesty to admonish like you did TRC..

    I’m sorry that you have nothing to offer but bitterness. You’ll be happier if you live the teachings of the Bible instead of just [mis]quo

  • [-3] June 12, 2014 at 8:28pm

    Duah, such a hypocrite.

    “Yes, we’ll forgive you.”

    As you call him a bigot and revel in his perceived ignorance and implied punishment (having to confess to a supposed sin to God and not receiving the full Mormon reward in heaven).

    Your true Mormon colors are showing. Perhaps you should have shown mercy and concern and offered prayers. But you’re the typical Mormon. Someone challenges your faith and like your brethren you get insulted and claim to be attacked and your response is to attack instead or patient, prayerful teaching.

  • [-8] June 12, 2014 at 8:15pm

    “Despite your doctrinal exclusion as a “real” Christian of anyone else who holds even a slightly different theology from you, I will offer a brief testimony.”

    Funny how the tolerant Mormons keep attacking TRC just as progressives attack those who would disagree with them. That said, one of TRC’s videos shows quote after quote from Mormon leaders who actually say the exact opposite of what you claim and all within the first 5 minutes of the video. Now it would be easy to disprove TRC’s video by examining those quotes and showing that they are either false quotes or quotes taken out of context and showing how exactly they are taken out of context but just like progressives, TRC and his sources are dismissed outright. He’s not linking Chick tracts but a guy who speaks non-venomously and is quoting sources (biblical on one hand and Mormon on the other) yet the Mormons here are being vicious.

    In other words, TRC’s video is calm and objective. You can take offense at TRC’s tone and his conclusions but when he provides source information that completely undermines your propositions and does so by quoting Mormon prophets/leaders, then the truly Christlike thing to do would be to address those challenges and educate those of us who think what he’s citing has veracity. If the best you can do is attack him and refuse to engage his points, you are obviously neither Christian nor tolerant as you are claiming to be.

  • [-8] June 12, 2014 at 7:50pm

    “Despite your doctrinal exclusion as a “real” Christian of anyone else who holds even a slightly different theology from you, I will offer a brief testimony.”

    What a very disingenuous claim. The differences between LDS and “Bible-based” Christianity is anything but a slight difference in theology. If it was just nuance, any average “Christian” would be welcome inside an LDS temple but they aren’t. If it were just nuance, LDS wouldn’t have beliefs that are shared among their believers but are kept quiet among the general “Christian” public because general “Christians” aren’t ready or sophisticated enough to hear the “more complex” beliefs.

    You are entitled to your beliefs but please stop with the disingenuous and deceptive “we’re just like you.”

    The Christian God makes us no promise to become gods ourselves, unlike the unchristian beliefs of Mormons, “Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them.”

  • [-7] June 12, 2014 at 7:19pm

    “I don’t understand why some Christians are out to convince the world that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints aren’t Christians.”

    Because we are called to testify about the Bible and its message which includes warning about false teachers and false prophets. And what will those false teachers and false prophets look like? Horrible demonic things?

    “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” … “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ ”

    Christians believe, “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.” but Mormons believe that Scripture is corruptible and that the Bible (Scripture) falls short. That one must pick and choose, which parts of the Bible are acceptable and must be amended with a “new revelation.” They believe God is all powerful yet He was too weak to defend His Word.

  • [1] June 12, 2014 at 7:10pm

    “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”

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