I remember Kuby talking about the award in the civil case. Basically, something like this: “We know that we won’t collect on this, but Goetz will never be able to own a house or a car or have any sort of accumulation of wealth.” Not SPITEFUL or anything there, eh?
December 1, 2015 at 2:23am
fortherecord, this from Wikipedia:
A month after the shootings, Cabey’s lawyers William Kunstler and Ron Kuby filed a civil suit against Goetz. The case was tried in 1996, eleven years later, in the Bronx, with race as the dominant theme. During jury selection, Kuby asked the mostly non-white prospective jurors whether they had ever been discriminated against. Goetz admitted to previous use of racial language and to smoking marijuana laced with PCP in the 1980s. Kuby portrayed Goetz as a racist aggressor; Goetz’s defense was that when surrounded he reacted in fear of being again robbed and beaten. Newspaper columnist Jimmy Breslin testified that in a 1985 interview, Cabey denied his involvement in an attempted robbery, but said that Canty, Allen, and Ramseur intended to rob Goetz.
The jury found that Goetz had acted recklessly and had deliberately inflicted emotional distress on Cabey. Jurors stated that Goetz shooting Cabey twice was a key factor in their decision. The jury awarded Cabey $43 million – $18 million for pain and suffering and $25 million in punitive damages.
Goetz subsequently filed for bankruptcy, saying that legal expenses had left him almost penniless. A judge of the United States Bankruptcy Court ruled that the $43 million jury award could not be dismissed by the bankruptcy.Asked in 2004 whether he was making payments on the judgment, Goetz responded “I don’t think I’ve paid a penny on that”, and referred any questions on the subject to his attorney.
 December 1, 2015 at 12:24am
Ron Kuby? As I recall, he wasn’t much for “second chances” as regards Bernard Goetz, was he? Kuby went after Goetz in a civil suit, right?
November 30, 2015 at 11:12pm
Yeah, I’m guilty of being a lawyer.
 November 30, 2015 at 11:09pm
After all, many are not “immigrants” in ANY sense of the word.
For example, Mohammed Atta — not here to live, just here to kill.
 November 30, 2015 at 11:07pm
Suggested substitute for those moaning about the term “illegal immigrant”:
TRESPASSING FOREIGN NATIONAL
After all, many are not "immigrants" in ANY sense of the word.
For example, Mohammed Atta -- not here to live, just here to kill.
Those arrested for criminal activities should be deemed Unlawful Combatants.
Who, should not be extended the same rights, as its citizens.
Immigrating without assimilating is invading.
How about Civilian Invasion Participant
If that picture was of Trump, the media would be in a tizzy claiming it was a Nazi salute. LOL
 November 30, 2015 at 9:31pm
LOL — good one, Icam67
 November 30, 2015 at 7:18pm
Suggestion in case you want to stop offending wildebeests: “Hagfish”
Hagfish, the class Myxini (also known as Hyperotreti), are eel-shaped, slime-producing marine fish (occasionally called slime eels). They are the only known living animals that have a skull but no vertebral column. Along with lampreys, hagfish are jawless; they are the sister group to vertebrates, and living hagfish remain similar to hagfish from around 300 million years ago.
The classification of hagfish has been controversial. The issue is whether the hagfish is itself a degenerate type of vertebrate-fish (most closely related to lampreys), or else may represent a stage which precedes the evolution of the vertebral column (as do lancelets).
 November 30, 2015 at 7:09pm
Yup, no need to “transmit to Vladimir” here — he can kowtow to old Vlad in person.
 November 30, 2015 at 4:37pm
Don’t forget: before they called it “Global Warming”, they called it “Global Cooling”
I have been listening to this crap since the third grade in the 70s. I wish science would for once admit they have no idea what will happen.
Now it's Global Insanity...
 November 30, 2015 at 3:59pm
Good point. Kids DO, however, have “rational, critical thinking ability” — it is just WAY different from that of an adult or a teenager. Teachers should know that. As a lawyer, I can see HUGE liability down the road for those who have given kids hormones and/or surgery based upon a child’s gender confusion. If shareholders of insurers were to consider it, they would probably propose corporate resolutions that would specifically exclude “sex reassignment surgery” from coverage under doctors’ med mal policies.
 November 30, 2015 at 3:50pm
I’m a Red Sox fan, but I am very happy for the Royals’ championship (my wife is from Kansas).
I saw a Royals-Red Sox game at Kaufman in 2008 & the atmosphere there was really good and wholesome — even though the Red Sox lost :(
 November 30, 2015 at 3:45pm
And, of course, this is only shown by the tiny fraction that has been revealed.
What about the other 93% of the planning schedules?
 November 30, 2015 at 11:04am
Re: “I would say that sub (5) applies here as well.”
Yes, UpstateNY_Proud, it clearly does apply, but I am looking for conviction on a (1), (2) or (3) type violation — that makes it a Class A felony instead of a Class B felony.
 November 30, 2015 at 11:01am
LOL, no kidding!
Man, do they need some cleaning up around there!
 November 30, 2015 at 2:12am
“Nothing to do with religion”
OK, whatever — I’m cool with him not trying to use his religion as a defense to a kidnapping charge. Class A Felony. Should be good for DECADES in prison (how about part of a chain gang on loan to Arizona to build a double-deep wall at the border?).
 November 30, 2015 at 1:38am
Here is Missouri aw on it:
Until December 31, 2016–Kidnapping–penalty.
565.110. 1. A person commits the crime of kidnapping if he or she unlawfully removes another without his or her consent from the place where he or she is found or unlawfully confines another without his or her consent for a substantial period, for the purpose of
(1) Holding that person for ransom or reward, or for any other act to be performed or not performed for the return or release of that person; or
(2) Using the person as a shield or as a hostage; or
(3) Interfering with the performance of any governmental or political function; or
(4) Facilitating the commission of any felony or flight thereafter; or
(5) Inflicting physical injury on or terrorizing the victim or another.
2. Kidnapping is a class A felony unless committed under subdivision (4) or (5) of subsection 1 in which cases it is a class B felony.
As long as unlawfully taking a child out of school constitutes “Interfering with the performance of any governmental or political function”, then it is a CLASS A FELONY.
Re: "I would say that sub (5) applies here as well."
Yes, UpstateNY_Proud, it clearly does apply, but I am looking for conviction on a (1), (2) or (3) type violation -- that makes it a Class A felony instead of a Class B felony.
You've been "Hitting the Books" Haven't you? My Daughter, (Former Assistant Prosecutor, Marion Co., IN) said you are either in Law or have access to a Law Library
Well, gee whiz, another peaceful muslim who kidnaps and beats a relative. Any punishment should be by parents and not this brain dead muslim. This is what comes of 1400 years of inbreeding in the muslim world. He deserves to be yanked by whatever hair he has, dragged and beaten even more than his relative was beaten by him!
Yeah, I'm guilty of being a lawyer.
 November 30, 2015 at 12:31am
Daughter of “I have a pen!”: Inkubus
 November 29, 2015 at 8:17pm
Hmmm . . . sure, the Left would like a new Constitution, but they have been illegally amending the old one by judicial activism since the 1930′s. They wouldn’t want anything like a Convention of States to LEGALLY make amendments as that would just be too above-board for them.
 November 29, 2015 at 7:47pm
I am really tired of this “transgender girl” terminology for a BOY. Maybe the BOY could be called a “transgender boy”, but the BOY is not a girl.
But, hey, this nonsense could actually point to the demise of a lot of racial pimping. Imagine a kid of exclusively Chinese ethnicity who has good (but not GREAT) SAT scores and who “identifies” as an American Indian: suddenly the kid can get into whatever school he wants to, right? With a wonderful scholarship, too. After all, he is not “transracial Chinese” but “transracial Native American”, right?