chucketuna, I’d suggest a distinction with a difference in the words you’e used.
Some things are so wonderful that human words would not do them harm by virtue of the incompleteness of the content of those words. That Paul was unable to put what he saw into words what he saw is not the same as being forbidden to utter a description of what he saw – only that his description would miserably fall short.
I had such an event take place in my life some 45 years ago. No accident or horrible event. I, with two other fellows, were in prayer. Nothing special or out of the ordinary – just thee guys praying.
Remember the camera shutters? They’d be closed and pressing the button would open and close extremely rapidly. “F stops”. Typically in the range of 1 second to 1/1000 of a second, or more.
My experience was about the speed of a normal camera shutter – and that’s it; nothing more. However, what I saw was the outline of a human-shaped figure of pure light. Imagine a human shaped form with light radiating out in a complete sphere sort of deal. Now, to try and describe this “light” I find impossible as there are no words for it. I can string a few measly words together (clear-colored-light life substance love knowledge awareness holiness purity joy warmth fear total beauty-everything). My reaction? Matthew 5:3 – Filthy blessed wretch. 45 years later it is still as powerful as then. I confess – I am lovesick as a result – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rZ8k9m2hwo
 September 7, 2015 at 11:55am
Sort of like your thinking process – a staged event?
 September 6, 2015 at 12:10am
[smile] It will be fools day for those who turn their backs on God – sadly. – regardless of what month or day.
Death is certain. Giving an account of one’s self to God is certain. Neither you nor I will escape that event. I believe that what Jesus accomplished, and only that act, will provide me a way to escape certain judgement for my sin. That God would love me, such as I am, is a wonderful amazement to me and for which I give thanks. I would love to be able to persuade others to look at the evidence but most folks care more for this life than their eternal destiny. Again, sad.
Many people believe in Jesus but do not believe Jesus. I could no more force someone to believe than I could hold my nose and float in the air. But, to encourage others to take these matters seriously is a great privilege.
 September 5, 2015 at 11:25am
That would be wrong to do in any case whether driven by religious fervor or the fervor of material gain. I suspect in the case of the Indians it is more likely the latter.
How does that stack up against the over 100 million people murdered in the name of the religion of man; also known as Humanism, Atheism, Socialism, Communism or Fascism? Or Islamism?
I don’t recall Christians ever roasting people on a spit or putting them in cages and tossing them into water.
And, what, pray tell, are you actually doing about this? Or are you just using this as an excuse to avoid the very real and hard issues of life. Easy to talk and pretend you’re smarter and more morally correct than others I suppose.
I suspect that paying $400 to see crazy people when it can be done for free is a sign that our good black friends are smarter. Look, ANYONE who can take trash meat and make BBQ out of it deserves a great apology from the rest of us.
And that’s not even bringing up the notion of dusty desert, lots of stinky stupid stoned people walking around all caught up in themselves as they express whatever loony thoughts they have in a desperate attempt to escape the existential prison they’ve allowed themselves to be incarcerated in.
As though Burning Man actually has any real value and could somehow impute the same. Way too much white bread in their diet. I’ll take BBQ any day of the week and let them eat lizards. *g*
 September 4, 2015 at 1:44pm
Read John Locke.
Civil law and “religious” law are separate things. They should NOT intrude on each other. Influence? Sure. We must be very careful on how they overlap. This new ruling IS the law of the land, like it or not (I do NOT). As a Christian however I am obliged to obey the law. Paul stated so explicitly this in Romans 13-1. You & I have NO special rights here.
Jesus certainly did not claim any. He suffered GREAT injustices as the whole trial, conviction, punishment and crucifixion (plus many more specific acts) were ALL illegal according to Jewish law at the time.
ARE YOU OR I ANY BETTER?
The larger issue is how we represent Christ – NOT ourselves.
We DO have the power of votes and prayer (my first choice *s*) and we should use them. I saw STUPID SHORTSIGHTED Christians NOT vote for Romney (LDS) where there were enough votes to get him elected. Happy with those results now? I see the same thing here. To be candid, this looks exactly like the “other side” where willfulness has been substituted for morality.
I **DO** think this lady is sincere but sincerely wrong. Or, perhaps I should say that I think she’s trying to do the work of the Spirit in the strength of the Flesh. Will not work folks! Never has, never will.Now, shoe me some solid thinking along with that love. *g*
What makes you think Romney would be any better, as I bet some of the people that contributed to his campaign did not also contribute to his. If so would he not have also gave the gays the right and would never fight for us.
If this lady is wrong then James Madison is wrong, along with our Founding Fathers, Lincoln was wrong and Martin Luther King was wrong, along with Roosevelt who defied
the law of the land by secretly helping England.So she is trying to do the work of the
Spirit in the Flesh. This 4 year old Christian has faced a ton of pressure, death threats
and Jail all in the Flesh? Ya sure. Where are all the chicken ass Christians of this generation that have forsaken the words….Fear not for the Lord God Almighty is with you. Where are the Christian Men of valor that will fight for their Children, Their Country
That God Gave them, and their Family that God gave them? I will tell you where the Majority of them are. Like you they are posting their disapproval of people like this Lady
While the left teaches their very own grade school children every deviant thing known to man. Also when she took her oath, this new law was not in place.
Did Daniel who was a member of the government obey the law of the land?
Or did he end up in the Lions den?
My people perish because they know not the word of God.
I have no doubt you are a Christian, however Christians like you make me sick. Yet I still love you thru Christ our Lord. That is solid thinking.
To those that know to do good and do not do it, to them it is a sin.
A man that will not protect his family is worse than an infidel.
Donald is the only one protecting the Constitution and the Christians from themselves. Kim Davis was breaking the law by forcing the employees under her to obey her religious convictions and she wouldn't let them issues marriage licenses. I support everyone practicing their religious convictions as long as those convictions do not impede on others. She took a stand to not issue marriage licenses to gays, and by the 1st Amendment she was protected to do so. (How wonderfully made is the Constitution that it protects our right to exercise our beliefs.) However, Davis force others to adhere to her convictions, and because she had the power as an elected official she broke the 1st Amendment.
September 1, 2015 at 6:04pm
Pssst… It’s called hypocrisy. Get it?
 August 31, 2015 at 12:09pm
Man that brings back memories… A few days after we lost our son (6) due to a teenager drifting out of the road my wife said the boy had, a few weeks earlier, stormed into the house. When asked she said some guy was taking his picture.
I have never been in a fist fight. Never made sense.
I found welling up from some deep deep place in my heart the notion that had someone deliberately killed my son – I would have killed them at the first chance I had. Still makes no sense but I do understand this dad’s reaction. I also had this eery sense of the loss of biological continuity. Many cultures treat homicide as though you not only kill the person but ALL of their potential progeny.
Agree wholeheartedly with @paulwbrown that there will be no charges brought against the dad.
Doug: You're a better man than I. But then I think how I may react, but I just really would not know until I was in the situation. I know that going to jail for reacting could be the straw that snaps any member of my family due to grief... So ya... hard to say.
Wow. So sorry for your tragic situation.
I am so sorry you lost your son. My heart hurts for you, your family and your little man taken away from you. May he rest in peace and your family find solace. Bless you all.
I am so sorry for your loss and cannot even imagine the enormous pain that you and family have experienced. May God grant you the peace and comfort that your heart needs.
So sorry for you loss.
[-2] August 31, 2015 at 1:07am
That is like asking if light was around before light. They are the same.
.....da faq are you on? How is what I said even similar to what you're comparing it to....
 August 21, 2015 at 11:58am
Have a friend > 20 years who decided he was a woman. Naturally I was stunned when he told me of his decision to change. Cross-dressing struggle his entire life; like an alcoholic with drinking. Lots of shame and guilt
I replied I’d accept his decision (uncomfortably) but he had to reciprocate. “Sure”, he said.. He had helped me through the grief process after our son’s death – a GOOD friend. As a Christian I said there were other options (thinking Jesus of course). He was good with this. I wanted to talk WITH him, not AT him as so many do which only adds to the obvious pain these folks have. I have, and accept, this responsibility.
A week or two later my friend suddenly raged at me; threw our friendship under the proverbial bus. I suspect lots of pent-up anger. He declared himself an atheist and continues on this path. On American Thinker a gay fellow wrote a very reasonable article about gay double standards. The short version of an email conversation with him was that he would receive the same response, even as a gay man, as I did. The hateful LGBT folks are just as bad as the hateful non-LGBT folks. Fear drives all sides here I’d say. Accept us, but we won’t accept you – so you change. They have decided for the fight side of the flight/fight fear response. Willful rage – their choice.
The answer? 1 John 4:18 “Perfect love drives out all fear.” Truth & mercy meet at the cross. Pray, love – weep.
Satan is working over-time, dear. YOU DID THE RIGHT THING and God will not hold you accountable for trying to help him.
When praying for your friend, send the Holy Spirit to him, who will convict him, yet love him and lead him into all truths. You did your part. Now, let God take over ;-)
LOVE DOES CONQUER ALL.
 August 3, 2015 at 12:15am
So, obvious question;…
If Obama had a son, would he look like Tremaine Wilbourn?