There is no such thing as “without consequences” – for anyone.
One of the great things about being a human is that you can turn from the death of self to life in Christ.
Consider well your words friend. They have consequences. Your decision to make and the consequences you, and no one else, will choose. Once you make this decision final, and no one knows when that may be, you can not move from hell to heaven if you make the wrong choice. The door will be barred. It is your right to make and there are consequences.
Pascal's Wager is still stupid even if you try and reword it.
 July 2, 2015 at 2:56pm
Dignity comes from within (inside) as a direct consequence of a conscious decision on how to react to circumstances without (outside) that REQUIRE such a decision to be made.That is, no dignity-requiring circumstances, no opportunity to see it in action.
And that is NOT to say one can not have dignity unless there are circumstances requiring it. It can and should stand alone and the decision to choose responses that fall into the dignity category One way to say it is that the blacker the black the whiter the white.
These knuckleheads have it all backwards. They think “good character” (and I’m sure our definitions differ wildly) comes from outside through legislation. They want free will to do any thing they want and the way they get there is by denying mine. Sounds just like EVERY repressive government that has ever been in existence.
Mr. Takei, LOVE your acting but your intellectual (or moral perhaps) prowess leave a bit to be desired. Or, you’ve subsumed it to your willful definition of right & wrong and blamed me for not just jumping on your little bandwagon. Sorry, I think for myself and don’t need your “superior intelligence”. As far as I am concerned, and as long as you understand that you are solely responsible for your decisions and recognize I am for mine, you can stick your plonker anywhere you’d like.
God still loves you but YOU are are responsible for you and I am responsible for me. Choose wisely.
 June 30, 2015 at 11:41pm
I got to the point where I thought it would just be nice if he kicked their butts. I stopped there.
That was good enough for me. Would love to hear them squeal, “No mas!” *G*
 June 30, 2015 at 11:33pm
Ephesians 2:12 (NASB) says it all; starting mid-sentence from verse 1; “…remember that you were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.”
Without God and no hope.
While a part of me is SO angry that we (corporately as a nation) have allowed folks like this even remotely near the seat of power, and even angrier that they apparently have NO conscience other than one tuned to their personal benefit, the other part of me aches for their souls. They literally have no idea at how short-lived any “victories” they may be able to accrue to themselves actually are.
Hate what they do. Hate them not. On behalf of Christ, pity them. And vote them out if you can! *g*
“The difference is slight, but noticeable.” – Oh, man! Am I glad you mentioned that! I was just about to take a swig but I couldn’t get my battery opened. You just saved me a trip to the auto parts store. Appreciated!
State-imposed falsehoods do affect you. I was going over my math exercises where 2 + 2 = 5 and then the whole battery acid thing started making sense.
First of all, truth does not come into existence as a result of my observing it. Truth does not depend upon my acknowledging whether or not it exists.
Secondly, truth does not stop being true because I disagree with it.
Thirdly, truth does not change over time. (As an aside, time is an artificial ‘construct’ that exists as a result of the orbital rotation of the planets. No planets, no time) That is, truth cannot be more than it is nor less than it is.
Fourth, truth is self-consistent. It cannot ‘lie’ to others or itself. By ‘lie’ I specifically mean deliberate or accidentally.
Fifth, given that truth is all of the above it MUST therefore exist outside of time, never change, always be the same, and exist whether or not the material universe exists. That is, it must be infinite as it never changes.
God is Truth. Like it or not.
And, to say someone is “wrong” or “right” is ipso facto proof thereof of truth. Disagree on the content but one cannot deny it does exist. Well, actually, one certainly CAN deny the existence of truth but that typically is the start of descent into some form of insanity or neurosis. Not healthy.
 June 26, 2015 at 4:46pm
One can even drink enough water to kill themselves.
I remember the bath houses many years back. Folks started contracting HIV and someone had the temerity to suggest a change in behavior. Why, you would have thought they were suggesting putting folks in oven given the intensity of the reaction.
ALL about freedom to but NO WAY should there be consequences.
 June 26, 2015 at 4:41pm
? Am I a group? “you folks”. Do you mean not to soil yourself with “you folks”?
Nice. And tolerant, and kind, and certainly not holier-then-thou.
“you folks” – Didn’t a lot of Democrats say that sort of thing about the very same black folks they enslaved? Dunno but it does sort of have a familiar ring to it..
Yeah… “you folks”
[-1] June 26, 2015 at 4:36pm
I think the notion that “he acts as if…” is coming more from the media than Franklin. And I suspect you are “all of a sudden” seeing quotes from Franklin because the media is looking for someone they (the press) can put a face on their (the media) mental image of Christianity and then use that to project the same. I suspect that it’s also because he’s Billy’s son.
June 26, 2015 at 4:29pm
No, not the sort of anger I am reading that you are suggesting.More heartbroken actually. I wouldn’t know if you have anyone in your life who is doing, or has done, something that you KNOW will hurt them, but it would be more like that or a parent who watched a loved child go down a path that would bring great pain.
More like anger at what causes pain than the person who chooses to inflict it upon themselves. The kind that would want to do anything to stop the behavior on one hand but not violate the free will decision on the other. Warn? Sure. Express great alarm? You bet.
And, yeah, there are a LOT of Christians who misrepresent God in this area. This decision will cause damage. This lifestyle, regardless of what folks say, doesn’t remove the deeper pains. Look at the suicide rate for LGBT folks in general.
No hate. Just great sadness at watching folks willfully commit cultural and spiritual suicide.
 June 25, 2015 at 11:23pm
That is correct. What do the numbers suggest would;d be my question?
'What do the numbers suggest'
There are numbers for this...?
 June 25, 2015 at 11:21pm
““The governor has appointed as board chair an ideologue who voted to adopt new textbooks that scholars sharply criticized as distorting American history, who rejected public education for her own family and who supports shifting tax dollars from neighborhood public schools to private and religious schools through vouchers,” the group’s president, Kathy Miller, said in a statement.”
Translation, we lose our seat at the table.
This isn’t about the kids for Ms. Miller. It’s about HER ideology and money. My grandmother, born in 1900, taught in a one-room schoolhouse. My mom & dad were both junior high teachers. My wife just retired after 30 years of teaching elementary school children (mostly 2nd grade).
Ms. Miller, with all due respect, you are the ideologue here. And folks like you have placed your interests above the interests of the children. Evidence? Look at the facts, the scores and the moral character of the “fruit” of your tree.
I was on the School Board in our small city and all the teachers reps there spoke only about salaries and why no one should have to join the union (the side I was on because I taught and unions stink and the officers live high on the hog and support Demos and progressives (the brain dead)) and not a word about the students or scholastic teaching. I told them how ridiculous they were and they got angry. Truth hurts and especially if they like tenure and buying new books every year that denigrated the once great country of America. Pox on them and congratulations to Gov. Abbot!
 June 25, 2015 at 9:28am
1 Peter 3:3-4 (NKJV) says, “Do not let your adornment be merely outward—arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God.”
Many have turned this into a legalistic restriction for the purposes of control.
While we surely should not let vanity guide our lives I always got a laugh at what J Vernon McGee said in response to a question about this issue; “If the barn needs a coat of paint, paint it!”
 June 24, 2015 at 12:53am
Blest says he has experienced a tragic, terrific loss. I am sorry to hear that. It really never is any fun but it is life. Sometimes the pain is SO intense that the only way to deal with it is by developing a sort of fierce intensity just to get through it. We may see others who don’t appear be past their pain as we are, by virtue of actually and truly dealing with it. If we’re stronger we should help the weaker.
I ‘feel’ that intensity. I’ve had it well up in me. I don’t think that Blest does not “get it”. Rather he does, and knows others can too. But they need to so it; not him. Candidly, you both sound like your dealing with them; one intellectually and the other emotionally expressing themselves. Cats & dogs again. *g*
What I find amazing is that Jesus “just took it”. Willingly drank the cup of my grief and pain. And yours. And Blest’s. He did not give up his humanity, strength of purpose and mind, emotional sensitivity, manliness or his ability to treat a woman as a woman or a man as a man should be treated. He gets the process.
He knows how to help us deal with our pain. He’s been there, done that. *s* He takes us as we are and guides us into His image. Let’s remember that the end of the road for all of us is His image and not ours.
Pretty stinking cool actually. Lord bless both of you.
 June 24, 2015 at 12:31am
Blest, yes, we should get over it, in the sense of accepting the events of life. But that is a decision one can only make for themselves, and it can take a long time to get there. I’d bet Mandita would prefer for you to say, “I don’t understand your grief. I am so sorry for your loss. Is there anything I can do, in addition to praying for you?” And then shut up and give her the freedom to explore her feelings without thinking she’ll be criticized for it. She knows she needs to “get over it” but what she is saying is that for some of these types of events one can never actually do that. My wife and I will never have the same sort of fulfilled dreams either.
The scripture is cold when we forget that both the head and the heart need to be in harmony.
Mandita, I have, at times, tried explaining the experience of losing a child to others. I have found they are uncomfortable and don’t know how to react. I suspect Blest has a very generous heart and that he really is trying to direct others into trusting the Lord. And, he is intellectually correct. Perhaps, whether or not you intended it (I also suspect not here as well) that it may well come across as self-pity.
Like weight lifting, I have found that one of the consequences of my experiences is that I am unafraid to explore my feelings because I have “bulked up” by going through them. For you, your explanation is just that – the facts of your life as you have worked to “get over” your loss.
June 23, 2015 at 4:16pm
Oh man, I am so sorry.
I understand what I went through, not what you have gone through at all.
Thank you for taking the time to write. I have found help from God but it was direct and personal. I pray you have and will do so also. Ish..
I am also reminded (and I hope you won’t take this as being flippant) that the urologist said, “This, too, shall pass.” *g* Sometimes a good laugh help. I hope you have had some.
 June 23, 2015 at 4:08pm
Geeze, what have you done for consolegoddess recently? Except run her down in public? Disagree with Osteen all you want but for goodness’ sake that does not give you the right to speak with another human that way.
Osteen answers to God, not you nor me. You do as well and I’d recommend you remember that next time. Have you no understanding that every word you utter (type) is remembered? Running someone down does not lift anyone up.
 June 23, 2015 at 4:04pm
As I understand two years after a large loss is the minimum time one should give themselves before making “large” life’s decisions.
I have found truth in the notion that there are times God uses grief for our benefit. I have had direct confirmation of this. Still hurts, as some like to sat, “Aitch-eee-double-hockey-sticks” though. *g*
Condolences on your loss..
 June 23, 2015 at 3:59pm
Indeed. One should not allow grief to morph into self pity or to paralyze your interactions with life and others..Sometimes it just happens – typically at first and perhaps every so often later on. I would suggest that at that point you have crossed the proverbial line.
He died. God raised Him up. Sometimes we can NOT, in our own strength, recover. It takes a divine intervention. I would object to Pastor Osteen’s message if, at the end, he did not include this important point. Willfulness cannot overcome death. Only God can.
I am a big fan of taking responsibility, for my emotional state as well of the rest of my life,but there are cases where Joel Osteen’s preening and mawkish presentation I find distasteful. Don’t know his heart nor his intent but he sure fits into the image I have of Americanized Christianity so many others find offensive.