"... that few would likely officiate same-sex nuptials if they become legal across America."
If legality is your guiding principle, you're in the wrong calling. You're a fraud.
Spot on Gonzo with the government taking the lead. We knew they would come for the churches.
It certainly makes an angel's job easier separating the wheat and tares.
The headline speaks to why we are losing the argument as conservatives.
The scotus doesn't legalize squat, legislatures do that.
The scotus has no business making law.
Term limits would be a definite improvement.
The point of the militant homosexual movement from the beginning was to target real Christianity
The real church is about to go home as the world accepting homosexuality and perverting the scriptures has been prophesied as end times prophecy
They will be wishing for a rainbow but none will come as the smoke from the fire covers the land.
Gonzo: Here’s another interesting question via the fallout from SCOTUS making Obamacare law.
“After the blackmail of Obamacare penalty taxes forces many people to buy overpriced but poorly scaled policies, how many doctors will refuse to accept the coverage?” Then we have to ask what provision is in the law compelling doctors to submit? The answers are a double entendre of fate.
“As many doctors that want to can ignore Obamacare, and there’s no recourse in the law for the healthcare subscribers”.
Unless patients can afford to pay as they go for treatments and services rendered, they won’t receive any. In effect, more people than ever before will be out of healthcare. This will hit the Dregs and old people the hardest. This is the result of Obama destroying the best healthcare system in the world. Somehow we must endeavor to persevere.
I am not aware of the specific wording of statutes regarding marriage and who is qualified to perform such ceremonies in my own state (Soviet State of Washington), but I don't think there is wording in any of them that would say just because someone is licensed to perform weddings that they would necessarily have to do so just because someone asked. Our church recently revised our by-laws to say that weddings would be performed only for those who are regular attendees of our services, if not members already. Furthermore any such requests would of necessity would be done only after the Pastor or Board of Elders were sufficiently satisfied that Christian counselling had been received by the couple requesting the ceremony.
Churches are not publically traded corporations (and neither are businesses that are sole proprietors such as a bakery or florist shop) and are not under the restraints of government edicts to accept anyone who comes in the door. The last time I checked our church sits on privately owned property and someone who was deliberately trying to cause trouble such as is suggested in this article could be removed by the authorities for trespassing if necessary :).
It is high time for Christians to be 'wise as serpents and harmless as doves' when it comes to the traps and snares the gaystapo is laying for them. Use the tools the Lord gave us might be a good place to start, especially with the one called 'discerning of spirits'.
The END is near,
This will probably be one of the last nails in the coffin of the Republic.
The very last will be when we turn our back on Israel.
I think I hear hoof beats in the distance.....
Don't worry about pastors being forced to officiate gay weddings. They are not offering a service to the public for pay. True, they traditionally receive some compensation, they aren't in a business selling a product or service the to the public.
I remember when "right" was right and "wrong" was wrong.
Now it is reversed.
Now confusion has taken over God's wonderful creation. Mankind in general has decided their course and they have brought ruin and shame upon themselves.
Don't worry, the government will be there holding the gay crowds' hands, forcing pastors to marry them.
Gay marriage is already legal in most of this country. All this SC case will do it bring it to the last few states. It will not force churches or pastors to do anything.
@ potter........not yet but coming soon.
Were I a progressive, I would have done that since the beginning.
I guess even progressives know fear.
"A time to rend"
A petition of pastors who have signed their names, agreeing to keep government out of marriage/church.
The official pledge and their reasoning for this,
“homosexual behavior is sin” And a rather large number consider drinking too much alcohol, gambling, LYING, sex outside of marriage, smoking and no doubt a host of other things as sinful behavior. So should all of those be illegal? At the end of the day what exactly is the personal harm you undergo if the Supreme Court extends the same constitutional rights and civil liberties to ALL Americans. Bias -> I don't like the gay lifestyle and think the term civil union should be used to describe their unions. But I don't think my ideology or beliefs are adequate to deny them equal treatment under the law. And if they are not a member of your religion or church, what exactly are your grounds for opposing their being treated as an equal citizen. As far as this post having anything to do with pastors being targeted.... that is just another made up controversy ....stay with the facts, the constitution and the law. When you are discussing constitutional rights and civil liberties, religious beliefs has no bearing at all. And if you really understood what the founding fathers were speaking about, they would tell you the same.
Nobody is going to target pastors, because all normal people understand that bakeries aren't churches and churches aren't bakeries.
April 17, 2015 at 8:02am
Is it a state road?
April 17, 2015 at 7:59am
 April 17, 2015 at 7:49am
I don’t support that. Refusing to take part in a religious ceremony that goes against your beliefs is one thing. I know Jesus would have never considered taking part in a gay wedding, but I bet he would have healed a gay person. So heal the car and be nice about it. If they send you a wedding invitation, decline it.
 April 17, 2015 at 7:44am
I wonder what they consider “affordable housing” in California? Probably more than most Americans in the heartland could afford.
Had I not read this article, I would have assumed Willie fell asleep with a joint in his hand.
Big Al is gonna be pissed. Can you imagine the carbon footprint. I feel a little warmer all of the sudden!
Gonzo: I’ve heard about Willie but never this “major country music group.” Anyway, do you know how a tire catches fire? The idiot driver ran the bus for 200 miles with the all brakes on emergency lock. He didn’t know what that little red light meant on the instrument panel with the word “BRAKES!” Oops!
 April 16, 2015 at 12:24pm
Alpine hiking shorts still look like that to this day. It’s a cultural thing…like wearing your pants under your @ss cheeks. Let’s not poke fun at that though, it would be racist.
So she didn't meet Bill at the Selma rally in 1965 and as a result bear a son in 1961? Oh wait..that's Barack Obama's attempt to pander to a different democrat demographic. Hillary's going for the Hispanic pandering vote. My bad.
@gonzo - She is indeed an Indian. Slapaho tribe I believe.
Just a scalper.
April 16, 2015 at 11:30am
I think the caller was genuinely worried about the kids. I don’t think the parents should be in trouble, but I do think the caller was doing what he thought was best.
 April 16, 2015 at 11:27am
Such an important issue, the survival of Western civilization hangs in the balance on whether or not Rubio would go to a gay wedding. Face palm.
 April 16, 2015 at 11:25am
Judging by the coverage the last couple of days, I think FNC has picked Rubio. It’s amazing how obtuse they can be about their own viewing audience.