I don’t believe for a second that whatever sensory stimuli might be received inside a woman’s abdomen are sufficient to spur the development of a human mind. A fetus doesn’t think because it has nothing worth thinking about.
Subnormal is not the same as subhuman. Anybody who has even a limited capacity to communicate by means of human language is a human with all the rights of any other human.
The brain is just hardware, the mind is what separates us from the lower animals. There’s nothing arbitrary about that. The mind has always been the one thing that makes humans special.
July 25, 2016 at 8:15pm
A chicken is not completely mindless, but I eat it. A worm will squirm when you put it on a fishhook, but that doesn’t make it a person. A fetus may have more of a mind than a worm, but it has less than a fish. Unless and until it’s born it will never start to think like a human instead of a less than fish thing, so it’s not a person, and it has no rights.
 July 25, 2016 at 7:35pm
Thank God for abortion. Having over 55 million more people in this country, all born to parents who never wanted them but were just too stupid and irresponsible to think about the consequences of their actions? That would be horrible! We would have an even higher percentage of bums, parasites and criminals, and the people who are working productively would have even less chance of getting ahead and improving their lot in life because there would be even more desperate people to compete for the little they have. It’s ridiculous to claim that having 55 million more people would be a good thing.
July 25, 2016 at 7:01pm
Like I said, developing a mind is a process. It doesn’t start until you’re born. If you could live for twenty years in the womb, you would still have less of a mind than a deer, but once the process does start, it’s only a matter of time before you have a fully formed human intellect.
 July 25, 2016 at 6:52pm
Getting an abortion is being responsible. Having a child even though you know it’s a bad idea is horribly irresponsible. There’s nothing responsible about turning one little mistake into a huge mistake instead of correcting it before it’s too late.
July 25, 2016 at 6:47pm
Golly, it’s going to be a fun next eight years!
 July 25, 2016 at 6:46pm
That is just an evil thing to say. Many women who wisely chose to get an abortion at some point in their lives have later become great parents to kids they conceived when they were better prepared to care for them as they deserve.
[-1] July 25, 2016 at 6:44pm
 July 25, 2016 at 6:21pm
It’s not murder. A fetus doesn’t have human rights because it doesn’t have a human mind, the one thing that gives human life a value above other forms of life. Once it is born and begins to perceive the world by means of its senses, the process of developing a mind will start. Until then. it’s fair game.
 July 25, 2016 at 6:07pm
Why the hell not? I’m personally opposed to religion, but I don’t think that it should be illegal, and I would fight against efforts to make it illegal. I don’t see anything unreasonable about someone else feeling the same way about abortion. It’s called respecting other people’s rights. Try it some time.
Do you ever read the words you type before you hit POST?
You are mixing personal choice of religion and the intentional murder of innocent life.
1. It is not true that cognitive development does not occur before birth.
2. Your premise seems to exclude the mentally retarded from the human race.
3. There is no reason to arbitrarily choose the development of the brain over the development of any other human organ as the basis for human rights.
[-1] July 25, 2016 at 6:02pm
Yeah, because there’s only racism when one race acts against another. Are the parents black? Are the fetuses black? Is anybody dragging off black women and forcing them to get abortions? Then there’s no racism, and it ain’t nobody’s business but their own.
[-5] July 25, 2016 at 2:57pm
I would like to see the messages to which each of the two were responding when they posted that tweet. Leaving out that information as if it couldn’t possibly be relevant at least tickles my bs detector. It could be that they were both equally warranted or unwarranted, or it could be more like the difference between somebody screaming in the face of a guy who gropes her privates on the subway and somebody treating a child who accidentally steps on his foot in exactly the same manner.
and who gets to be the grand arbiter of proper "kill yourself" usage?
In case you missed it, the conservative chick was ONLY mimicking the Jones tweet. It is irrelevant what comment spurred the Jones tweet to justify or explain conservative chick's tweet. Agree with you though that Jones’ tweet’s basis should be explored.
As always, context means nothing to conservatives. Another example of their lack of understanding nuance.
[-3] July 25, 2016 at 11:08am
How am I a racist pig? I think black Americans have the same right of choice as anybody else. Are any black fetuses being forcibly aborted against the will of their mothers? Then what the hell is the problem? Why bring race into it at all? It’s their choice, and it’s their business, not yours or mine.
[-1] July 25, 2016 at 9:36am
Paying for abortions with Medicaid funds would be one of the wisest expenditures we could ever make. Anybody who can’t afford an abortion sure as hell can’t afford a child. The cost of abortions for the poor would be less than we currently spend before the reluctant parents even get home from the hospital with their unwanted babies.
Anyone who would put a price on the life of a child...well I can't really express my thoughts because my mother raised me better.
You will stand before the Almighty God one day and (attempt to) explain those words.
Babies are just "line items", right? Maybe we could sell all the baby parts and pay down the debt. And the parts that are unsellable could be used to feed the poor. Talk about making lemonade out of lemons...think of all the problems that infanticide could cure!
shut up Grover you mental piece of crap.
[-2] July 25, 2016 at 2:27am
I don’t believe for a second that whatever sensory stimuli might be received inside a woman’s abdomen are sufficient to spur the development of a human mind. If you could remain in the womb for twenty years and grow to the size of an adult human, you would still have less of a mind than the pigs and cows that we eat, and it would still be perfectly ethical to perform a long-overdue abortion.
[-4] July 25, 2016 at 2:19am
So what, Sleazyhippo? Even with all those abortions, the black population has steadily grown, and at a slightly higher rate than the general population growth. That’s a healthy rate of growth, so all of those abortions are just the right number
And as for me needing help with statistics, 52 is 44% higher than 36, not 36% higher.
[-2] July 24, 2016 at 5:33pm
You know that’s higher, right? 13 is higher than 11.6. And that’s the percentage; the number has grown by a lot because the number of the overall population has grown in that time. It appears that enough black babies are being brought to term to ensure the continued existence of the race, and that however many abortions are being performed at the request of black mothers are no more than about the right number.
[-8] July 24, 2016 at 4:55pm
You have a right to kill a fetus before it’s born, just as you have a right to kill a fly, or a fish, or a chicken. None of them have the rights of a person, because none of them have a human mind, the one thing thing that gives human life a value above other forms of life. Once you’re born and begin to perceive the world by means of your senses, you begin the process of developing of that mind. A fetus can’t develop a mind because it has nothing to think about, so it’s perfectly ethical to kill it.